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I just got a replacement evo and I updated it to 3.30.651.3 and my hardware ver. is 003..And i can not get root Please any help would be great ..thanks
i am ALWAYS open to helping people root. it seems the tutorial to do would be here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045
the problem is, all the files are for 0004 hardware so it would screw up your 0003. better just sit tight until they release the 0003 ruu cracked, patched, and engineering files. once again, open to help people.
dk
Thank you i can wait i tell you running stock isnt bad my battery life is crazy long...
Just as a last check, you might want to search the threads to see if any of the methods work for 0003. I might recommend just waiting though because the other methods seem a little shotty. The one I linked makes perfect sense and sounds foolproof. I doubt htc could have thought out that loophole.
Yeah cool thanks for your help
What is the manufacture date of your phone did it come with 3.30?
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there is now a method for rooting hardware 003 running hboot 2.02.
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there is now a method for rooting hardware 003 running hboot 2.02.
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Send link please?
its in the dev section. zi(something) wrote it up. the only thing missing was a tweaked custom recovery. if you need help pm or email/ichat me ([email protected] for all of them)
good luck ot you all
dk
I have hardware 0003, and the method you linked got me rooted. Took a couple attempts on a few of the steps, but end result is s-off, amon-ra recovery, still using hboot 2.02 however. I didn't see the need of downgrading hboot. Be careful when flashing roms though, as only htc kernels will allow the camera to work at the moment. (to the best of my knowledge). I'm more than happy to help, too, if you have any other questions.
Feel free to gtalk me or email me. [email protected]
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the point of downgrading is to allow unsigned pc36img.zips, and to have fastboot commands. these can be used for major developing, or simply changing your splash screen. not much of a purpose, but a purpose.
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I realized you meant changing splash through adb, my fault. Good point about the fastboot, though. I haven't tried the .zips either. I may downgrade yet.
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Be careful when downgrading. You could be bricked. I would recommend not downgrading until you do something that requires it. How do you flash splash screens without adb?
Flashable zips through recovery. Shift has a thread around here somewhere I got the one I'm using atm.
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I didn't know that was possible. Well it makes sense because wimax, radio, pri, nv, and boot .img are all installable with some tricky coding through recovery. Why not the splash1 partition too...
Hello all.
I rooted my G2 using the gfree method and all went well(I have S-Off). It was much easier then the process for my G1.
Current setup
HBOOT-0.82.0000
RADIO 26.03.02.26_M
Cyanogenmod 6.1.1
So my question is should I bother to update my bootloader? A friend of mine with a similar setup said I should upgrade but what additional functionality would I get? Anyway I hope this does not seem like a stupid question.
The Eng HBoot gives you fastboot capabilities. That's about it. If you don't really use fastboot, then there is no reason to flash it.
Thank you for the reply but Im confused.
When I go into the boot loader it says fastboot and it shows up if I do 'fastboot devices' from the command prompt. I thought that meant I have fastboot capabilities? Or am I misunderstanding something?
If you have the stock bootloader, you don't have privileges like "fastboot flash" capabilities. It will show up with "fastboot device" because you have the phone in fastboot. It's like in adb, doing "adb devices" will show it up, even if you don't have superuser privileges.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
Ok now I understand. Thank you for your patience.
Looking back on the root instruction on the cyanogen site now I see the section referring to replacing the bootloader.
Now I hear alot about flashing the wrong radio and bootloader versions. How do I know for sure the file on the cyanogen site (0.76.2000) is the correct one?
That's the one that I have on my G2
Side note. I was looking at the wiki on XDA and it has the Eng HBoot for the G2 listed as 0.84.2000 and the DZ HBoot as 0.76.2000 that are hyperlinked to download.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those two supposed to be switched? My G2 has 0.76.2000, which is what I used when I first achieved perma root using the rage method before gfree. This is also listed on the CM wiki. I am by no means an expert, but I thought the two HBoot's were not interchangeable between the two devices.
Anyone care to chime in on this to share some light? I would hate to start a thread for this question of mine to be answered.
Yes I noticed the same thing. XDA has 84.2000 and CM has 76.2000. Relevent links posted below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Z.2FG2.2FDHD.29_-_OPTIONAL_and_UNNECESSARY.21
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
tazz, what radio version do you have? Id like to update my radio as well, hopefully it will clear up some issues.
My radio version is the one dumped from the RUU_Vision_Hutch_AUS_1.85.861.3_Radio_12.28h.60.14 0f_26.06.02.27_M_release.
It's found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959488
The instructions to flash with fastboot are there, as well as an update.zip, so you should have no problems there.
Regarding the engineering hboot;
The ONLY known brick was made by scotty2 by playing with hboot commands that are only available in the engineering hboot. In other words, it allows you more freedom to control the device, but at the expense of potentially REALLY f-ing it up if you mess with things that you don't understand.
With a radio s-off phone, you can save the phone from literally anything, even without the engineering hboot. As a matter of safety, the engineering hboot is *not required*. In terms of convenience, it is nice, as long as you don't go playing with things you don't understand.
Tazz. Thank you for the info. but should I upgrade the SPL before that installing that radio?
If you want to upgrade the radio through fastboot then yeah, you need to upgrade the spl first.
Otherwise, you can just update the radio through the update.zip in bootloader the pc10img.zip way, then you can do the spl upgrade.
Its really a personal preference.
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Side note. I was looking at the wiki on XDA and it has the Eng HBoot for the G2 listed as 0.84.2000 and the DZ HBoot as 0.76.2000 that are hyperlinked to download.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those two supposed to be switched? My G2 has 0.76.2000, which is what I used when I first achieved perma root using the rage method before gfree. This is also listed on the CM wiki. I am by no means an expert, but I thought the two HBoot's were not interchangeable between the two devices.
Anyone care to chime in on this to share some light? I would hate to start a thread for this question of mine to be answered.
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Yes I noticed the same thing. XDA has 84.2000 and CM has 76.2000.
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You were right I updated the XDA Wiki to reflect the correct info on the ENG. Hboot for the G2 which is 0.76.2000 and the DZ which is 0.84.2000. Good Catch.
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You were right I updated the XDA Wiki to reflect the correct info on the ENG. Hboot for the G2 which is 0.76.2000 and the DZ which is 0.84.2000. Good Catch.
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You're a good man joemm. Thanks for fixing things.
I went ahead and upgraded to the Eng hboot. No Brick. Yay!
tazz. occasionally my phone loses data connectivity. i can still make phone calls but no data. i notice if i kill the radio process internet works after the signal comes back. do you think an update to my radio would help this issue?
Yeah it could help it. I upgraded my radio and I get better data reception now than I did with the older radio version that I had.
I had the same problem, where I would have to reboot the phone to regain data. It still happens once in a blue moon, but not like it did before.
At least I am not the only one having that issue. Its a bit annoying.
The only "solution" I found was to make a simple gscript to kill all radio processes. Its quicker then a reboot. Not sure if killing the radio process has any negative effect but the phone seems fine after.
I just leave the shortcut on the desktop and use it whenever I need it.
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Regarding the engineering hboot;
The ONLY known brick was made by scotty2 by playing with hboot commands that are only available in the engineering hboot. In other words, it allows you more freedom to control the device, but at the expense of potentially REALLY f-ing it up if you mess with things that you don't understand.
With a radio s-off phone, you can save the phone from literally anything, even without the engineering hboot. As a matter of safety, the engineering hboot is *not required*. In terms of convenience, it is nice, as long as you don't go playing with things you don't understand.
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Thanks for the info here, I had been searching this forum for at least 2 days now, looking for information on the eng-hboot and was it needed or not.
Being new to all this, could this eng-hboot vs hboot be on the wiki somewhere? My thoughts are that once I got my phone rooted and backed up I was trying to figure out what the next step was before flashing any ROM. I really don't want to mess up my phone.
From what I gather the main thing with the eng hboot is that it lets you do the fastboot commands.
and apparently it has other stuff that can also brick your phone lol
I haven't flashed the new hboot yet. I'm currently running CM7 and have the eng hboot 0.76.2000 with s-off.
As promised, here are the questions:
1) Has anyone flashed the new hboot and tried to restore a custom rom?
2) If I flash the new hboot (0.86.0008) will I be able flash back to the eng hboot?
3) What are the differences between the two? I usually use cwm/recovery, but if I need the hboot, I would like to be able to flash all the partitions. Is this still possible with the SHP version?
4) the nb0 files seem like I could flash them via "flash hboot" and skip the zip or disk destroy. Does this make anyone nervous?
5) I lost track of all the rooting going on... I rooted with gfree before there was a version number. Is there a root method that unlocks even more?
Thanks in advance... I've been playing with the ASUS transformer lately which has an unlocked, unbrickable bootloader, so I know I should slow down before getting to flash happy with hboot.
Why do you want to flash a new hboot? Something wrong with your device or something?
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This is one of those "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" things.
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The more you tell me not to do it, the more I want to flash it!
I'm just curious....
Same as u gee one, I wanna know. If no one ever tried new things cause what we had was "good enough" we would be years behind in progress in about every level of life.
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Stick with the ENG HBOOT -- it has more of the fastboot commands enabled.
I think we all plan on sticking with eng hboot. Still doesn't answer the question about what is different with the new one.
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Hboot changes are typically to add security (i.e., take away your freedom), not add new features or make anything better. Unlike the radio, it will NOT affect performance. This is just a bootloader, like GRUB or LILO. Once it hands the CPU off to the Linux kernel, its life is over. As long as it does that correctly, there is no reason to change it.
Thank you 234 I think that is the kind of answer we were looking for I would hit thanks but am on the mobile app.
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I have flashed the htc desire hboot on the G2 and so far I'm still able to flash any rom for both the G2 and the htc desire .
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What "features" are missing from the existing hboot? If it aint broke dont fix it, definately a case of theres a new version must flash it must be better, think will stay on my old boring hboot that does what i need it to do until the wiki is updated.
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Hold my beer, I'm gonna flash the new hboot!
There's nothing wrong with hboot- I'm just asking about what differences there are. I never asked if it was better. I understand that it's not an engineering hboot, but I don't know what features are "missing" from it. This is the exactly the question that I'm asking. I know that flashing a new hboot will not increase my battery life or improve my radio reception. I know that flashing hboot can be dangerous and lead to bricked devices. I know that flashing hboot will not solve world hunger, resolve the world debt crisis, or bring peace in the Middle East.
I think if I asked about a new ROM, people would just tell me to flash it and find out for myself.
Flashing hboot can be dangerous and possibly brick your device. I do not recommend it. This thread is for entertainment purposes only!
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There's nothing wrong with hboot- I'm just asking about what differences there are. I never asked if it was better. I understand that it's not an engineering hboot, but I don't know what features are "missing" from it. This is the exactly the question that I'm asking. I know that flashing a new hboot will not increase my battery life or improve my radio reception. I know that flashing hboot can be dangerous and lead to bricked devices. I know that flashing hboot will not solve world hunger, resolve the world debt crisis, or bring peace in the Middle East.
I think if I asked about a new ROM, people would just tell me to flash it and find out for myself.
Flashing hboot can be dangerous and possibly brick your device. I do not recommend it. This thread is for entertainment purposes only!
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No offence buddy but why do you want to flash a new hboot then? You mention different ways to root but as far as I am aware the wiki is the "official" recommended way, will stick with what Ive got until such times as the wiki recommends changing my hboot,that is the only guide to rooting that I need.
I never said I wanted to flash it. I just asked what was different about it. What changed from the old stock hboot? Maybe the partition layout is different and there is more memory allocated to data? I don't know, hence the questions.
As some people have asked, if it ain't broke, then why fix it? Then why would HTC/T-Mo change it? I'm just curious about the changes.
I agree, for most users, they would never need hboot. The zipped up roms and radios are just fine for flashing in recovery.
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I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with wanting to know what does the new hboot do. Furthermore, the only thing "wrong" with knowing more is that you get more awesome stuffs, kinda painful isn't it?
And, "if it ain't broke, then why fix it", why are we using HTC Vision here, not Nokia 1100, or better yet, smoke signal?
Holy thread resurrection, Batman !
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He's got a good point though.
Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki
1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes
ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now
Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.
How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
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In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"
Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
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Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.
Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..
Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.
Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.
Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml
Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.
Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?
I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity
Basically what it says in the title. I have a Desire HD with Android 2.3.5 installed, and I want to flash Cyanogenmod 7.1 (With google apps) to it. I've had a good look at all the resources available and I think I know what I need to do, I'm a little apprehensive though as I'm new to this so would somebody mind checking the resources I have found to see if I have the right steps?
First of all I've checked in About Phone -> Software Information and found that my Software Number is 3.12.405.1. So from what I've read this means I'll have to downgrade my firmware before I can root.
That lead me to this guide: Here
If I follow that guide carefully as well as this one here, I will end up with a phone that has firmware 1.32, is rooted, has Radio S-OFF and also has clockworkmod recovery installed.
From there, I can then follow this guide here to install the latest version of Cyanogenmod either using Recovery, or the ROM manager. Simple, right?
Does this sound about right? Or am I missing something incredibly obvious that will break my phone, or make life a lot easier?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Sounds good to me although you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
One click root and s-off once you follow everything and have the right setup to run the tool. Very easy and quick.
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Sounds good to me although you could try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
One click root and s-off once you follow everything and have the right setup to run the tool. Very easy and quick.
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Thanks! That looks good, although I'm not very confident about this little warning.
Doing this WILL severely degrade bootloader performance on Inspires (and likely DHDs) and causes issues trying to install RUUs. In other words, it WILL jam you up. (Note: Issue now confirmed on later DHDs - ignore at your own risk).
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Am I reading this correctly, following this method WILL degrade my bootloader performance? Or will that only happen if I perform the hack incorrectly?
You are reading it wrong. What has happens especially with us inspire users(American dhd) is that if your phone was shipped with gb, installing the Eng bootloader(Eng soff) causes issues. Makes the phone take 15 min to boot. Its possible to fix but its a long pita. I only seen a couple people with dhd have this issue so and others not.
Regular soff is all you need, just you can't use fastboot to flash say radios, its done in a different way
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You are reading it wrong. What has happens especially with us inspire users(American dhd) is that if your phone was shipped with gb, installing the Eng bootloader(Eng soff) causes issues. Makes the phone take 15 min to boot. Its possible to fix but its a long pita. I only seen a couple people with dhd have this issue so and others not.
Regular soff is all you need, just you can't use fastboot to flash say radios, its done in a different way
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Yup exactly that
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Just follow these his guide and video, works perfectly. www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-root-the-htc-desire-hd/
The only difference is that after instead of flashing the rom suggested you can flash cm 7.1 www.download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=ace
No risks no problems with bootloader.