Ok, I cannot be the first person to want to do this, yet an hour on google has revealed nothing. I want to make myself a carbon fiber back cover for my aria. Of course, I ran into a problem: the antenna is also in the back cover, and cell reception is terrible without it. Go figure. Anyway, I was hoping someone on here knew where/what the actual antenna is, so that I can put it in my custom cover. Also inside the back cover is a black film that can be pealed off, revealing some silver adhesive filmey stuff. Does anyone have any idea what this stuff is?
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Ok, I cannot be the first person to want to do this, yet an hour on google has revealed nothing. I want to make myself a carbon fiber back cover for my aria. Of course, I ran into a problem: the antenna is also in the back cover, and cell reception is terrible without it. Go figure. Anyway, I was hoping someone on here knew where/what the actual antenna is, so that I can put it in my custom cover. Also inside the back cover is a black film that can be pealed off, revealing some silver adhesive filmey stuff. Does anyone have any idea what this stuff is?
Thanks!
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If I'm not mistaken, the antenna is the two prongs in the lower right of the back cover...if you look St the lower right of the back of the phone, these prongs fit into two holes...
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Well yes, those are the antenna contacts. I was wondering if anyone knew where the actual antenna was, specs, any info that might be helpful.
Actually, the antenna is that "silvery film stuff" you found. You could try removing it with a razor blade if you're careful, but you may just end up damaging it permanently.
If you only want carbon fibre you could just buy a thin sheet and apply it over the existing cover. That might be a better route.
Cheers.
As aformentioned, I would not remove the adhered antenna from the back plate.
If you bend it too far you can cause a microtear in the antenna permanently damaging it. It can be tiny and not visible without a microscope.
I highly recommend using 3M Di-noc, which is an adhesive fabric that looks similar to carbon fibre but is very durable and long lasting. You can shape it using a heatgun and make it look perfect.
Here's a good video on the use of the product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9jHSqp6K5E
I thoroughly enjoy using Di-noc as it's very versatile.
Hope this helps!
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Since the back cover for the Atrix is one piece and actually covers the sides as well, i was wondering if these can be made out of carbonfiber. Anyone have the hookup on someone that can make custom CF parts?
Getting a case that snaps around this seems counter intuitive. You'd think the incipio and spek cases would just be replacement covers.
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Since the back cover for the Atrix is one piece and actually covers the sides as well, i was wondering if these can be made out of carbonfiber. Anyone have the hookup on someone that can make custom CF parts?
Getting a case that snaps around this seems counter intuitive. You'd think the incipio and spek cases would just be replacement covers.
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I was on some website, I cant remember and they had other backcovers on pre-order for $20.... They all looked like a rubberized material with a sort of carbon fiber design and each had a motorola symbol in the center. Either blue, green or pink.
I believe it was MobileCity Online or something like that. Definitely only preorder status right now.
I agree the back is waaaay too slippery. I feel like I am going to drop it while typing. I am holding out for Powermat to release a back to use with the charging pad. If not, I might opt for the soft rubber battery covers.
Interesting. I'd like to get an extra one to use as a template. I think i got someone lined up for carbon fiber but i'd need to give them a template that wouldnt survive. I also have to make a minimum order of like 50, which i'd toss up on Ebay.
i'd be down for a couple if you could post some shots of what it would look like...since it does wrap around the corners it would slim down the phone too (versus case)...
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I believe it was MobileCity Online or something like that. Definitely only preorder status right now.
I agree the back is waaaay too slippery. I feel like I am going to drop it while typing. I am holding out for Powermat to release a back to use with the charging pad. If not, I might opt for the soft rubber battery covers.
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I would definitely love a powermat charger; depending on hpw much bulk is added to the device is another story though.
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Interesting. I'd like to get an extra one to use as a template. I think i got someone lined up for carbon fiber but i'd need to give them a template that wouldnt survive. I also have to make a minimum order of like 50, which i'd toss up on Ebay.
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I would so buy one.
I have no idea how much these are going to cost me and i wont know until i can give them a battery cover to work with.
Honestly, if i have to get 50 made (they estimated 50-100), i wouldnt do it unless the price i could sell them for was about $40. Regular cases are around $30 so $40 would be a great price. Most CF cases are grossly overpriced and i'd like to avoid that.
Also, this would be a replacement for the battery cover. It wouldn't be a case so it would still work in the docking stations.
I seriously doubt you'll ever see a carbon or any other compost back. There is just no way to mold in the little clips that hold the back on. So plastic is your only bet. you can't even wrap in carbon because you need to fold the material over the edge for a good hold, and doing so would block the locking clips.
I'm trying my hand at covering the back in 3M DI-NOC (carbon fiber looking vinyl), which should give it some grip.
I have no experience with CF but those little tabs may be moldable (is that even a word??). Ill continue to investigate. If it doesnt work, i lost nothing.
If you get that Dinoc on post some pics up here. I'd be interested to see how it holds up around the corners since it cannot be folded back inside due to very small tolerances between the phone and the cover.
having a little experience with molding and CF, it will be so hard to get a good piece with the proper mounting tabs, you'll have more scrap than good pieces. Not to mention that when it's that thin, it will probably snap after a few uses (mounting clips, not cover). CF isn't some magical material you can will into any shape like you can melted plastic. To mold in the locking tabs means the piece would be "clipped" into the mold upon completion, not a desirable situation.
I will post if i get the DI-NOC to look presentable. I know a few places sell pre-cut DI-NOC protectors, but those don't cover 100% of the phone.
Your experience with CF is a lot more than mine, so ill take your word for it, but i will still investigate because it wont cost me anything. If it works, great.
The only thing i'll put on mine is a very thin "sticker" or nothing. A case isnt going to work for me as i will be using a dock. It seems stupid to think that companies made a case when all they had to do was replicate the battery cover and then market this as "Hey look, our solution works with your dock."
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I will post if i get the DI-NOC to look presentable. I know a few places sell pre-cut DI-NOC protectors, but those don't cover 100% of the phone.
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Let's see if you beat me to it! See the Captivate in my signature! I can't stand how slippery this thing is compared to my Di-Noc carbon fiber Captivate.... The only advantage to it is that it works great on my Desk Genie
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Your experience with CF is a lot more than mine, so ill take your word for it, but i will still investigate because it wont cost me anything. If it works, great.
The only thing i'll put on mine is a very thin "sticker" or nothing. A case isnt going to work for me as i will be using a dock. It seems stupid to think that companies made a case when all they had to do was replicate the battery cover and then market this as "Hey look, our solution works with your dock."
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Hey, if you can get it done, then more power to you, just trying to make sure you have a realistic outlook going in.
I'm betting companies don't make just backs because the design is 'proprietary' to the manufacturer.
1'x4' piece of DI-NOC is sitting at home, will attempt tonight.
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I'm betting companies don't make just backs because the design is 'proprietary' to the manufacturer.
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I didnt even think of that! Surely there is some Chinese company chomping at the bit to make some cash.
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A clear acrylic battery cover would look cool. Show the insides a bit. And that will SURELY be cheaper than CF.
Im full of ideas today.
I apparently fail at vinyl. I can't get it to wrap the corners nicely, the stuff is too thick.
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I didnt even think of that! Surely there is some Chinese company chomping at the bit to make some cash.
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A clear acrylic battery cover would look cool. Show the insides a bit. And that will SURELY be cheaper than CF.
Im full of ideas today.
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OMG.... clear acrylic would be AWESOME!!!!
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I apparently fail at vinyl. I can't get it to wrap the corners nicely, the stuff is too thick.
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That **** is ROUGH, let me tell you.... I have done rear view mirrors (not side view, the interior ones) and man I thought all 11 years experience I've had doing vinyl was a damn joke! I gave up on even starting the back panel, check out the thread I just created for the carbon fiber front and sides, not to mention the back panel with REMOVED AT&T logo, REMOVED "HD VIDEO" text, and the "blur" in Moto blur....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967076
I would love a soft touch replacement back cover.
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I would definitely love a powermat charger; depending on hpw much bulk is added to the device is another story though.
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I asked PowerMat - they said they have no plans "yet"... contact them and say you want one, they respond to demand
Does anyone know if I can pickup a replacement Battery cover for my GS2? I picked my phone up this morning and noticed some scuff marks on the back of my beloved phone. Could I call Samsung and get one do you think?
i'd actually be intersted in getting metal one, the plaggy one feels a bit to flimsy to me, although a metal version would be harder to get off and on.
i'd be quite interested in some coloured battery covers actually - either metal or plastic.
accessories seem a bit thin on the ground at the moment though ...
I'd prefer it if you could buy a battery cover with a kick stand built in!
Anymode have back covers.
metal wouldnt be no good as the phone will over heat,
Really? Why would metal make the phone overheat, wouldn't it be more conductive than the plastic?
vimto25 said:
metal wouldnt be no good as the phone will over heat,
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Lulz.
Lern2thermodynamics.
vimto25 said:
metal wouldnt be no good as the phone will over heat,
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the opposite if anything, in fact
although id prefer plastic since its so light lol
http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-i9100-G...ccessories&hash=item415992d82e#ht_6045wt_1139
Btw the plastic cover dissipates heat better than metal because of it's meshed surface => more surface exposed to air => more dissipation than plain slick metal or plastic.
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the opposite if anything, in fact
although id prefer plastic since its so light lol
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Surely a metal back would conduct heat away from the phone better than a plastic back hence why computer chips are cooled by metal coolers and not plastic ones
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Still no replacement cover out?
Also interested in another battery cover. Might just make the phone 100% perfect instead of 99%
wouldn't be kind of impossible to get the cover into place?
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deas anyone have any problems with backcover.
When you pout your nail to open back cover it pops up for about 1mm or 1,5 mm in the air and does not close to the main suface of the phone.
All clicks are good bak on the left and up, but on the upper right it sticks out. I'm going to servise tommorow and I'll see what will they say (100% they will say that it is my faulth)
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Samsung-i9100-G...ccessories&hash=item415992d82e#ht_6045wt_1139
Btw the plastic cover dissipates heat better than metal because of it's meshed surface => more surface exposed to air => more dissipation than plain slick metal or plastic.
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Metal would always be a better conductor of heat but the real problem with having a metal battery panel would be the shielding affected to the radio components of the phone. IE the effect on 3g, WIFI and bluetooth and a possible reduction in signal strength. Many phones with metal back covers and cases have grounding connections on the the covers to the motherboards of the phones to stop this problem. The SGS2 was not designed to have a metal battery cover so would not have these connections. The cover is designed to be thin and light and is there purely to hold the battery in and cover the sim and memory card so why have it made of metal?
sure but still: the back cover is made of cheap plastic. i really had to fight against myself to not open the cover as usual. it took me some minutes to take off the cover without breaking anthing. thats it for me tho. forget the metal...but the plastic is just really really thin imho. and the feel is kinda crappy....metal is the better choice here.
Does anyone know of a replacement battery case or phone case which makes the knob (? dunno the right word for it) at the bottom just as high as the rest of the phone? So that it makes it plain.
I really dislike that knob. The phone never lies straight and it feels awkward in the hands. I wish they had kept the height of the knob at the bottom and made it more like the LG X2 or so.
Not seen one as yet but no doubt there will be a higher capacity battery come on to the market.This would probably be from a third party manufacture with a replacement battery cover that will take up this space that you talk about. Seen many for HTC phones so I am sure there will be one for the SGS2.
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Not seen one as yet but no doubt there will be a higher capacity battery come on to the market.This would probably be from a third party manufacture with a replacement battery cover that will take up this space that you talk about. Seen many for HTC phones so I am sure there will be one for the SGS2.
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I hope so. If someone makes a 4000 mamp battery it MIGHT last nearly a day.
I ran into a little bit of a problem last night. I have the extended battery (extra door included) and so I thought I'd modify a little and give it a matte finish and also to try to get that ugly Verizon 4G symbol off it. So I first tried wet blasting turned down to 5 psi. because I was sure it would just eat a hole right through it but it surprisingly did not. even when we turned it up to 30 psi. it was still not affecting the texture of the battery door. So I then tried to rub it with 80 grit sandpaper by hand which has been successful but also is a lot of work for something I thought was made of plastic. Then it hit me, maybe it's not plastic, maybe it's carbon fiber. which would explain it's resistance to force. So the question is, does anyone know for sure what it is made from? I just thought it'l be kinda wild because that would definitely debunk the theory that Samsung makes their phones out of cheap plastic. also the door is extremely flexible which is another very specific characteristic of carbon fiber. Just a thought though...
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I ran into a little bit of a problem last night. I have the extended battery (extra door included) and so I thought I'd modify a little and give it a matte finish and also to try to get that ugly Verizon 4G symbol off it. So I first tried wet blasting turned down to 5 psi. because I was sure it would just eat a hole right through it but it surprisingly did not. even when we turned it up to 30 psi. it was still not affecting the texture of the battery door. So I then tried to rub it with 80 grit sandpaper by hand which has been successful but also is a lot of work for something I thought was made of plastic. Then it hit me, maybe it's not plastic, maybe it's carbon fiber. which would explain it's resistance to force. So the question is, does anyone know for sure what it is made from? I just thought it'l be kinda wild because that would definitely debunk the theory that Samsung makes their phones out of cheap plastic. also the door is extremely flexible which is another very specific characteristic of carbon fiber. Just a thought though...
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I know they call it a "hyper skin" but I don't know what it is specifcally made off. I think your mad trying to get the branding off yourself. Could you not buy an unbranded cover on ebay or something. Anyhow good luck.
its common to use a sugar cube to grind branding off phones. anyway i think the cover is some new polycarbonate material like the nokia n9, samsung calls it their new hyper skin.
It's plastic.
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I know they call it a "hyper skin" but I don't know what it is specifcally made off. I think your mad trying to get the branding off yourself. Could you not buy an unbranded cover on ebay or something. Anyhow good luck.
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I guess I could of bought 1 online somewhere but then where would the fun in that be? Plus i got an extra 1850 mAh battery so im not losing anything. I will say that whatever its made of is really tough stuff if it can withstand a wetblaster that we use at work to blast titanium parts. And I have never seen plastic do that. It could be Polycarbonate but we have that stuff at work and its not as flexible as this is.
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its common to use a sugar cube to grind branding off phones. anyway i think the cover is some new polycarbonate material like the nokia n9, samsung calls it their new hyper skin.
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Wow! Did not know that. Too bad i didnt see that before. I did the same thing to my ipod once. Just took a piece of sandpaper and sanded the metal back to a brushed aluminum finish. This didn't exactly turn out the same way.
I honestly hate the curve of the back cover, it is simply ugly imo. Is there a replacement cover that gives me a smooth back?
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I honestly hate the curve of the back cover, it is simply ugly imo. Is there a replacement cover that gives me a smooth back?
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Remember that the antenna for our Inc 2 is in the back cover. Even if such a cover exists (and I highly doubt it does), you'd be replacing the stock antenna with an aftermarket piece, with no guarantees as to what this would do to your signal. I'd stay away from any swap out of the back cover if I were you.
You could probably figure out a way to mold one out of plastic! Just take a mold of the original inside with clay, and design the outside to be however you want it...but I do think its sketchy with the cover being the antenna and everything.
Get a case?
Cast resin around the original back?
Get an extended battery?
-CM7 on DInc2
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Remember that the antenna for our Inc 2 is in the back cover. Even if such a cover exists (and I highly doubt it does), you'd be replacing the stock antenna with an aftermarket piece, with no guarantees as to what this would do to your signal. I'd stay away from any swap out of the back cover if I were you.
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Yeah, it's not the best idea as it can interfere with signal. The best thing to do is to get a slim case. I'd recommend Case-Mates's Barley there. It'd probably give the phone what your looking for...and you'd still have a good signal.
Like written in the topic.
Does anybody know a shop were it is possible to buy LG v20 backcovers?
I found a seller on eBay but only verizon branded. I'd like to have a clean one (LG brand is OK).
My plan is to laseringrave my own personalised theme.
So pleas give me a link.
Best regards from Germany
Nillkin Frosted Shield Matte Plastic Ultra Thin Slim Light Fit Case. Check that out on amazon. It is slim, looks classy and premium.
I think the OP is referring to the original back cover attached to the phone chassis, not a protective cover or case.
Rubiicon is totally right.
I talked about the batterycover that u can take off.
I found one on eBay but it has the verizon logo on it. I'm searching for a blank one or whit LG logo only.
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Rubiicon is totally right.
I talked about the batterycover that u can take off.
I found one on eBay but it has the verizon logo on it. I'm searching for a blank one or whit LG logo only.
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For some silly reason, I wanted a pink phone (tired of black or silver). I find the brow and chin. http://www.ebay.com/itm/272609599251 , Does anybody think I can grab a Verizon LG V20 back cover, sand it and painting it a matching pink?
The verizon logo seams to be laser engraved. Don't know how far u have to sand it till its totally gone. And is the texture also the same like the backcover.
Idk how much time you have on your hands. BUT possible anodize the back door.
Thats my current project. I have all 3 main bezel parts soaking in Dye. Hoping in 3 weeks when I pull them out they were able to seep deep enough under the external anodizing seal layer (DOUBTFUL) If not then Im gonna attempt to anodize all three (Will have to replace the NFC ring on the back door). I hesitate because the sealing process requires you to boil the parts for 15 mins after anodizing, and the top and bottom bezel have plastic and I dont know the melting temp of this plastic. But only $40 project that will give me knowledge for the future.
@DarkestSpawn
I like your initiative, that's exactly the kind of thing I would try.
Experimentation is educational and fun. Even better if it's successful.
Be wary of boiling the plastic parts, they probably won't take much more than 60°C before deforming.
Good luck with your project, make sure you update here with your results.
An other user in an older backcoversection found covers without verizon logo. It has the b&o brand but this is much better then verizon
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Housing-Rear-Panel-Battery-Cover-for-LG-V20-H990-H918-US996-VS995-F800-With-NFC-/152534885473?var=451908450011&hash=item2383c9a461:g:icgAAOSw~y9ZCbRr
Here's another
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262970275414
Well, soaking in dye was a negative. Tried doing a thin layer of spray paint, parts would line up right felt weird, now I have a thin vinyl skin on it. PAIN IN THE ASS to install perfectly(see attachments) in which case I didn't do it perfect. The door is ridiculous to get a good alignment. I'm gonna see with these extra useless spare painted parts if I can remove the plastic without damaging, if yes then I'll attempt the anodizing. Otherwise hoping the v30 will be spec wise way better, still metal, still a removable battery, and anodized blue lol.
Lmao!
At least you tried. The rear cover looks OK, can't really tell much in the 2nd pic.
Good luck getting LG to release a blue V30 :laugh:
After some talk with co-workers, I was very cautious with an exact-o knife to trim a very small hang over portion around the camera ring, finger print power ring and sides, and used the spare bottom bezel skin, Its now done very well and am extremely happy with it.
The link is below if anyone wants to look at options.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SopiGuard-C...hash=item25caaa6ee6:m:m0S8x35cF7l7pEXA9QiabZg
I would have just used a Dbrand skin I have one on my XPS 15 and it works great. Last I checked they make them for the V20.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262970275414
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I bought from this store, cover came scratched and chipped, not recommended!