Rooted but not rooted??? - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys hope you can help, recently installed Stock 2.50.405.2 - With Root and everything seemed to be working ok, super user asked for permissions for apps had root access etc, but a few days ago this stopped happening so i ran root check and sometimes i had root access and sometimes not??? so rebooted into boot menu and it still says "ace pvt eng s-off" which i'm guessing means i'm still rooted? have looked in system/bin and system/xbin and both contain su, but clockwork mod gives a permissions error??? Can you guys help me figure out whats going on and how to fix it.
ps this was my first firmware flash.

You had a look at the Superuser app? Perhaps the apps in question don't have su permissions.
Long press the apps that are in there and choose "forget". Then any apps that require root access will ask for permission again.

Nope just tried that, forgot RomManager, started it and no request for SU permissions???

Have you tried uninstalling both of the apps and rebooted the phone and tried again?.
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If you try to restore apps like titanium or clockwork, they almost always fail to work properly. I suggest reinstalling
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tried reinstalling rom manager and still no luck?
when i check with root check it says
Root Access is not properly configured or was not granted.
Superuser.apk - com.noshufou.android.su -
version 2.3.6.3 is installed!
standard su binary location:
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2011-07-19
21:17 su -> /system/bin/su
Alternate su binary location:
/sbin/su: Permission denied
SU binary not found in the system declared
PATH

Try flash a custom ROM and see if it works. And restore back to your stock ROM
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Quick question, have you updated busybox lately?

andyharney said:
Quick question, have you updated busybox lately?
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Not updated busybox but only rooted phone about 2 weeks ago, and no updates in market
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Ok just re run root check and got this message
Congratulations! You have root access!
Superuser.apk - com.noshufou.android.su - version 2.3.6.3 is installed!
Standard su binary location:
lrwxrwxrwx root root 2011-07-19 21:17 su -> /system/bin/su
Alternate su binary location:
/sbin/su: Permission denied
Root user id:
Root not properly returning its user id
Root group id:
Root not properly returning its group id
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Bump???
anyone?

Hmmm... Does reflashing work. Wipe cache and dalvik before doing so
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how do i reflash, rom manager gives a privilege error when i try to run Clockworkmod recovery???

Ok re-flashed the rom and all working ok now, thanks guys

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[Q] factory reset after permroot....still rooted or not !!!

after permroot i did factory reset and then the visionary app and superuser app went away. now even after reinstalling both of them my proxy app doesnt work , it gives an error saying failed to start redirect.sh (permission denied) . now is my DHD still rooted or not , if it is still rooted then how can i make the proxy app work ?
thanks
try to root using visionary again, if you are rooted at the moment simply nothing will happen if you use it
Edit; You shouldn't have lost root by factory reset alone, but stranger things have happened. Not sure about the proxy app.
DL Superuser again (or as suggested/implied), reintall the Visionary will install Superuser as well.
Certain apps need required SU permissions from Superuser. When prompted by Superuser, grant SU rights to that app you are running.
Alternatively;
1. DL & install Superuser & Terminal Emulator from the Market
2. Run Terminal emulator
3. Type "su"
4. When prompted give superuser rights
5. Terminal Emulator prompt will change to "#" if you still have root
Edit: If you still have root & Superuser permission for the proxy app, try reboot in CWM Recovery & "fix permissions". You can do from within ROM Manager, but I prefer to do in CWM Recovery when the phone hasn't booted the partitions.
Make a backup in CWM Recovery prior to doing anything.
Just sharing.. once I accidentally denied the permission to root access for one app and the setting was to remember it. It took me a while before I realized this and change it in superuser setting.
i tried the terminal emulator and after typing su it said permission denied , and yeah my titanium backup isnt working coz it says dat it needs root now.
Yep, you lost root.
Try visionary again, and make sure superuser rights are given when asked by superuser.
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SuperUserInstall Issues?( SOLVED)

Did the EVO 4G recent root instructions for 2.3.3
Downloaded Superuser from the link in the instructions and extracted to root of SD card and then installed. All programs requiring root say I have none (I do have S-OFF).
So, deleted the superuser stuff and tried to install it from the market. Says it installed fine but still I have no full root according to titianium,Rom Manager,etc.
Installed ROOT CHECK and ran advanced mode.
Says Superuser apk is installed.
The adb binary is set to default shell user access as a standard non root user
Standard su binary location:Is-I/ system/bin/su:
/system/bin/su: No such file or directory
Standard SU binary location: Is-I/system/xbin/su
/system/xbin/su: No such file or directory
Alternate su binary location:
/sbin/su: Permission denied
SU binary not found or not operating properly.
Any assistance out there?
Thanks in advance....
Flash the zip from recovery and it works just fine.
DUH
Having same issue I've tried several times to no avail and the duh comment was a bit juvenile and not at all helping
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Disregard the end of my post wasn't paying attention
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[Q] su permission denied

Hello there,
I just flashed a new ROM (Gingerbread 2.3.7) last night. After signing in the Google account everything is great; the old apps got redownloaded and all. I noticed that there is no apps listed in the superuser. I tried 'su' command in the emulator terminal & I got permission denied.
Luckily all the apps are working in perfect harmony. However, how do I get the superuser permission back? It seems like my device is not rooted. Do I need to root my phone again? Fingers crossed I don't.
Initially, I tried to flash the Ice Cream Sandwich. I tried multiple times but to no avail. I even tried to change the HBOOT (from CM7 > downgrader > Stock HBOOT) but the process failed. I afraid that this might be the cause my root access got lost. Anyone can verify this?
Thanks!
Su app will be built into the ROM so you should still rooted. Sounds like Su settings are just defaulting to deny. Open Su, menu > settings and check its set at prompt (safer than allow). After flashing new Rom you'll need to launch apps that require root access to allow them permission again. You might need to update the Su app or binaries if permissions don't stick.
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beachcomber said:
Su app will be built into the ROM so you should still rooted. Sounds like Su settings are just defaulting to deny. Open Su, menu > settings and check its set at prompt (safer than allow). After flashing new Rom you'll need to launch apps that require root access to allow them permission again. You might need to update the Su app or binaries if permissions don't stick.
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beachcomber,
1. my Superuser is set at prompt.
2. I am not sure which app that require root access. Could you give me some examples so that I can run them?
3. I tried to update the su binaries, but I got this:
" checking current install path...FAIL!"
" failed to find currently installed su binary. Update cannot continue."
Therefore, what do you suggest?
Thanks.
xuminarc said:
beachcomber,
1. my Superuser is set at prompt.
2. I am not sure which app that require root access. Could you give me some examples so that I can run them?
3. I tried to update the su binaries, but I got this:
" checking current install path...FAIL!"
" failed to find currently installed su binary. Update cannot continue."
Therefore, what do you suggest?
Thanks.
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Take a backup. Download this. Flash it through recovery. Reboot and check if it works.
Alaa said:
Take a backup. Download this. Flash it through recovery. Reboot and check if it works.
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Thank you! It works!

Proper root or not

When i first bought the t989, i rooted the phone manually by flashing cwm and the su.zip file. Everything seem to have worked then. A month or so back I updated the phone to ICS through the Kies Air application. I tried browsing through my root files and found myself unable to do so. I decided to check my superuser application and noticed another su apk. It wasnt the android face but a superman android icon (sua). I updated the binary on the sua and my phone started resetting on its own. I have flashed stock roms of ics and the problem consisted. Eventually fed up of the 4.0.4 version i flashed back to GB which seems better in phone performance.
Back into stock/unrooted T989, i flashed root again. However i used root checker pro and it verifies root access however I find myself unable to browse root files. Is there another possible way to check through? maybe via terminal emulator?
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So i did some more searching and found the su command in terminal emulator and the "$" symbol changed to "#"
Im guessing I have root but browsing in the rooted files seems disabled in some apps
brion1020 said:
When i first bought the t989, i rooted the phone manually by flashing cwm and the su.zip file. Everything seem to have worked then. A month or so back I updated the phone to ICS through the Kies Air application. I tried browsing through my root files and found myself unable to do so. I decided to check my superuser application and noticed another su apk. It wasnt the android face but a superman android icon (sua). I updated the binary on the sua and my phone started resetting on its own. I have flashed stock roms of ics and the problem consisted. Eventually fed up of the 4.0.4 version i flashed back to GB which seems better in phone performance.
Back into stock/unrooted T989, i flashed root again. However i used root checker pro and it verifies root access however I find myself unable to browse root files. Is there another possible way to check through? maybe via terminal emulator?
/--edit 10:28 AM----\
So i did some more searching and found the su command in terminal emulator and the "$" symbol changed to "#"
Im guessing I have root but browsing in the rooted files seems disabled in some apps
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I'm having the same issues with 4.0.4. It's getting me pissed and contemplating doing 4.0.3 where I had access to system files via root explorer. I've been going through different ROMs on 4.0.4 to see if that would alleviate the problem. So far, still issues saying something to the affect that I don't have superuser access even though I can run any rooted application.
Here is the results of using root checker pro
Code:
Congratulations! You have root access!
Super User Applications Status: Superuser application - version 3.0.5 - is installed! SuperSU application - is NOT installed.
System File Properties for Root Access: Standard Location Check Command: ls -l /system/xbin/su: Result: lrwxrwxrwx root root 2012-09-29 00:35 su -> /system/bin/su Analysis: File: su is a symbolic link pointing to another file: /system/bin/su
Standard Location Check Command: ls -l /system/bin/su: Result: -rwsr-sr-x root root 22228 2008-08-01 08:00 su Analysis: Setuid attribute present and root user ownership present. Root access is correctly configured for this file! Executing this file can grant root access!
Alternative Location Check Command: ls -l /sbin/su: Result: /sbin/su: Permission denied Analysis: File system permissions restricted and denied access.
Alternative Location Check Command: ls -l /system/xbin/sudo: Result: /system/xbin/sudo: No such file or directory Analysis: File /system/xbin/sudo does not exist.
Root User ID and Group ID Status: Root user id: uid=0(root)
Root group id: gid=0(root)
System Environment PATH: /sbin /vendor/bin /system/sbin /system/bin /system/xbin
ADB Shell Default User: ADB shell setting for standard access, stored in default.prop, is configured as: shell (non root) user - ro.secure=1
Results provided on your SGH-T989 device by
Su or superuser
Are you using Superuser or SuperSu try reinstalling the APP from the market.
if not already a system app use titanium backup to convert to system app.
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Are you using Superuser or SuperSu try reinstalling the APP from the market.
if not already a system app use titanium backup to convert to system app.
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I've tried updating superuser from the market, even bought the elite version. Tried SuperSu and thus far, no luck. Tried using titanium just now and it didn't work on superuser.
---------- Post added at 12:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 PM ----------
I've even reflashed the su signed efghi 3.0.7 apk.
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Are you using Superuser or SuperSu try reinstalling the APP from the market.
if not already a system app use titanium backup to convert to system app.
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Ive tried updating su before and the binary which seem to have no changes. As for making su a system app, when i flashed unroot to root, su appeared without me installing. Also, su doesnt seem to appear in titanium backup
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I'm returning my phone today to fix the broken power button, the stiffness of the D30 case may have caused this.
Is it possible to direct me to a fully working 100% root?
brion1020 said:
Ive tried updating su before and the binary which seem to have no changes. As for making su a system app, when i flashed unroot to root, su appeared without me installing. Also, su doesnt seem to appear in titanium backup
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I'm returning my phone today to fix the broken power button, the stiffness of the D30 case may have caused this.
Is it possible to direct me to a fully working 100% root?
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I'm kind of wondering if flashing back to completely stock via Odin, then trying all over again will do it? I know as soon as I did the Kies update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 caused this issue on stock rooted.
Hype As Fruck said:
I'm kind of wondering if flashing back to completely stock via Odin, then trying all over again will do it? I know as soon as I did the Kies update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 caused this issue on stock rooted.
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Just Odin back to stock and then reroot. Its super simple. Maybe if you can get back to you recovery somehow you can just flash another rom and install it where you can have your supersu access back.
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[Q] Superuser after OTA

Hi Everyone,
So I have updated to Jellybean (4.1.1) via the OTA update and my bootloader become locked again due to the update.
I have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper installed so fortunately I was able to restore root and Superuser is working fine (so I thought)
Until yesterday, I install an application that would require root access and it appear to me that Superuser was not granting this access.
However previous application that has the access granted by Superuser is still intact.
I tried updating SuperUser binary and encounter the error "Gaining root access..... Failed"
It appears to me that new request for root access was not allowed anymore but previous granted access still works fine.
I do not want to unlock my bootloader again as this means everything will be wipe out.
Therefore Flash via CWM recovery mode is not an option for me.
As I still have root access on ES File Explorer, it there any possibility that I can manually update Superuser (or switch to SuperSU) using the ES File Explorer? Like copying the new apk over to the /system/app ?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
So you can't use boot unlocker so on play store?
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
skyes113 said:
Hi Everyone,
So I have updated to Jellybean (4.1.1) via the OTA update and my bootloader become locked again due to the update.
I have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper installed so fortunately I was able to restore root and Superuser is working fine (so I thought)
Until yesterday, I install an application that would require root access and it appear to me that Superuser was not granting this access.
However previous application that has the access granted by Superuser is still intact.
I tried updating SuperUser binary and encounter the error "Gaining root access..... Failed"
It appears to me that new request for root access was not allowed anymore but previous granted access still works fine.
I do not want to unlock my bootloader again as this means everything will be wipe out.
Therefore Flash via CWM recovery mode is not an option for me.
As I still have root access on ES File Explorer, it there any possibility that I can manually update Superuser (or switch to SuperSU) using the ES File Explorer? Like copying the new apk over to the /system/app ?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Maybe you need to fix permissions.
Did you have ROM Manager by any chance with root access granted? If so you could flash CWM from there, and then apply the latest SuperSU zip from CWM.
skyes113 said:
Hi Everyone,
So I have updated to Jellybean (4.1.1) via the OTA update and my bootloader become locked again due to the update.
I have Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper installed so fortunately I was able to restore root and Superuser is working fine (so I thought)
Until yesterday, I install an application that would require root access and it appear to me that Superuser was not granting this access.
However previous application that has the access granted by Superuser is still intact.
I tried updating SuperUser binary and encounter the error "Gaining root access..... Failed"
It appears to me that new request for root access was not allowed anymore but previous granted access still works fine.
I do not want to unlock my bootloader again as this means everything will be wipe out.
Therefore Flash via CWM recovery mode is not an option for me.
As I still have root access on ES File Explorer, it there any possibility that I can manually update Superuser (or switch to SuperSU) using the ES File Explorer? Like copying the new apk over to the /system/app ?
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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Use ES File Explorer and change the permissions on /system/bin/su (or /system/xbin/su) to 6755 and you will be all set.
efrant said:
Use ES File Explorer and change the permissions on /system/bin/su (or /system/xbin/su) to 6755 and you will be all set.
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I see that the Permission of the SU from ES File Explorer is rwx r-x r-x . I believe this is already the correct permission?
I'm thinking if it's possible for me the get the latest binary for Superuser and replace the SU file using the file explorer. Will this work?
Unfortunately I don't have rom manager as well.
skyes113 said:
I see that the Permission of the SU from ES File Explorer is rwx r-x r-x . I believe this is already the correct permission?
I'm thinking if it's possible for me the get the latest binary for Superuser and replace the SU file using the file explorer. Will this work?
Unfortunately I don't have rom manager as well.
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Those are not the correct permissions. The setuid bit needs to be set as well. What you posted is 0755, not 06755.
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efrant said:
Those are not the correct permissions. The setuid bit needs to be set as well. What you posted is 0755, not 06755.
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ES File explorer doesn't seems to be able to allow me to set the setuid bit.
I guess I just have to figure out how to use adb to do that.
skyes113 said:
ES File explorer doesn't seems to be able to allow me to set the setuid bit.
I guess I just have to figure out how to use adb to do that.
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I just checked and you're right. (i only ever use root explorer.)
In a terminal window:
su
mount -o remount,rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /system
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
I would also symlink it to bin:
ln -s /system/bin/su /system/xbin/su
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efrant said:
I just checked and you're right. (i only ever use root explorer.)
In a terminal window:
su
mount -o remount,rw -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /system
chmod 06755 /system/xbin/su
I would also symlink it to bin:
ln -s /system/bin/su /system/xbin/su
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I managed to do the above. However still no luck with updating SuperUser binary and still encounter the error "Gaining root access..... Failed"
I believe after doing the above I should get permissions (-rwsr-xr-x) but i'm seeing the permission as -rwsr-sr-x
seem like something is wrong?
skyes113 said:
I managed to do the above. However still no luck with updating SuperUser binary and still encounter the error "Gaining root access..... Failed"
I believe after doing the above I should get permissions (-rwsr-xr-x) but i'm seeing the permission as -rwsr-sr-x
seem like something is wrong?
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Strange. I have no idea what the problem would be then.
What I would do is boot up CWM, and re-flash an su package.
The permissions are fine: -rwsr-xr-x = 04755 and -rwsr-sr-x = 06755. Both will do the same thing.
Also I see nothing in the OTA package that would relock your bootloader. You're sure that's exactly what happened? If it did, maybe someone here could pinpoint the component of the OTA package responsible for this?
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Looks to be a problem on su.
I download the latest binary and replace it using adb + busybox and now it works fine.
Thanks!

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