Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!
You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.
gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.
I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
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Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)
Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine
Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed
Hey, I am a complete and utter brain donor when it comes to this whole geek-speak rooting malarky.
Up until last week, the craziest thing I had done to my phone was changed the wallpaper and set a new ringtone from the Zedge app. I've had the phone for a good eight months or so!!
Been wanting to put a custom ROM on my phone for a while and I managed to root my desire last week and got the little Superuser App on my phone. I've been working through the Noobs guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
and I've gotten to the S-off part. And here I really come unstuck. I have attempted to go onto the alpharev website and I have no idea which out of Sense, Oxygen, Data++, Stock, etc I download.
The website itself, I dont even understand how to find out which one I am meant to download. Although, I understand that once I get the right one, its a fairly straightforward process of rejigging something on my laptop to read CDs before the hard drive, and plugging my phone in.
But anyway...is there anyone who can talk slowly and in complete base English so that I can attempt to s-off my phone? Cause I am completely useless.
Cheers!
Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
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After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it
True u only need it for the new gingerbread roms
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Jonnibravo said:
Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
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If you mean on my phone currently I am running my standard stock sense Rom that was on my phone when I got it.
The only thing its been done is rooted it with Unrevoked as per that previous link.
Will get back to you about the rest when I attempt it!
Jonnibravo said:
After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Genuinely don't have a clue about what one bit of that means.. :/
EddyOS said:
Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it
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So what DO I need s-off for? And if I don't need it why is that guide tellin me to do it?
And chances are il prob want a gingerbread Rom at some point if that's the latest thing..
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that
Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
EddyOS said:
But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that
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True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.
monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish
monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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You can also change splash screens and flash unsigned zips through
fastboot - useful if your phone gets screwed up and won't boot to rom or recovery!
I'm in agreement though, I did s-off a few weeks after root.
UberNoobster said:
And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish
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the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.
monkeon said:
the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.
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Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
I've burnt it to the USB but I don't know if its done properly, there's an ALPHA zip file and some other stuff on my USB stick now so how will I know if its right n good to plug my phone in and s-off betc etc?
Btw thanks to all of you for your patience!!
UberNoobster said:
Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
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Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
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monkeon said:
Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
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I downloaded a ISO file and burnt it to USB stick as per the tutorial earlier. What I've now got is am ALPHA file and a couple other files here n there so is that it good to s-off?
Haven't decided on a ROM yet, not looked properly as I thought I could s-off first then pick my ROM whenever I got round to it as the phone would still work normally though it s-offed.
Why don't you listen to more experienced members like EddyOS and just leave it well alone for the time being. Root is more than enough to try different roms and customization/modding.
It is easy to do it once you know what you are doing. BUT, if i was you, i'd just wait a bit till you get more confident with all the custom stuff.
Again, s-off is not a MUST!
What you are asking here is near enough step by step guide of how to do it, which is a clear indicator that you are not ready to do it.
erklat said:
Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.
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Because, if something goes wrong, it's your fault, as you didn't mention something. He obviously couldn't sue you for that, but who needs the blame they don't deserve?
UberNoobster, i'm not saying that you are going to blame anyone if something goes wrong, but to me, if person recommends something, he is vouching for it hence takes responsibility.
I've had my phone rooted for like 8 months and I have yet to S-Off my device.
I really wouldn't recommend it for you if you have no idea what you are doing. Root is a good place to begin and right now you have the ability to customize your phone in many many ways.
Try out a new rom (may I suggest leedroid as a place to start.) Once you have a solid knowledge of the basics, then, and only then, should you make the choice if you should S-off.
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Ok thanks guys, and thank tinky and shaboola.
I see what you guys are saying, only reason I was gonna try to s-off was to get it done and dusted and out the road. But maybe I should leave it..
Do I still need to partition my SD card and take a nandroid back up and all that jazz when putting on a custom Rom, or do I need s-off for those things?
Cheers
Hy guys, i got one question regarding my brothers desire. he has unrooted desire and the main problem is low memory. he doesn't want me to unroot him and s-off and put some other rom so he can get better things out of his phone but it is what it is
My question is, if i format his sdcard,and put for example 512 or 768 mb of ext3 partition, should phone recognize by it self that external partion the next time card is pluged in phone, or i need to format sdcard and make hard reset to make thing work? or maybe neither option will work? So i need your suggestion and help with this one.
Best regards
To answer your question in a nutshell, no. He'll still be able to only move the apps that allow external storage, regardless of partition or size.
This is why I rooted my phone in the first place and after a lot of reading went for the safest option, due to a lack at the time of Linux knowledge. I rooted but left S-On and used a series of Sense ROM's that allow any app (apart from System apps obv.) to be moved to the ext 3 partition. Eventually settled on LeeDroid's - my favourite sense rom.
Andrewawright said:
To answer your question in a nutshell, no. He'll still be able to only move the apps that allow external storage, regardless of partition or size.
This is why I rooted my phone in the first place and after a lot of reading went for the safest option, due to a lack at the time of Linux knowledge. I rooted but left S-On and used a series of Sense ROM's that allow any app (apart from System apps obv.) to be moved to the ext 3 partition. Eventually settled on LeeDroid's - my favourite sense rom.
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if i just root him with unrevoked metod, and left s-ON, will i still have recovery such as amom ra or cw recovery?
ok to reformulate my question, i can use unrevoked and unroot phone. And then i don't need to s-off or anything.
I would do the following and i would like if you can tell me that's the right way.
1. get the drivers that are needed for unrevoked method and root
2. do the rooting stuff
3. from there on, i can format my sdcard trueout Cwrecovery which camed with unrevoked method
4. put wanted rom on root of sd card and make backup first
5. wipe all and flash a new rom
Is that the right way?
Sounds right to me.. use the search though mate you will find your answers there. Especially look at the stickies under Desire Q&A
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I just got two of these for each of my boys and I want to root and rom them. I have rooted and rom'd mine and my wifes Galaxy SII's so I understand the process in general. The issue with me on this is I don't exactly know what to pick with this older phone!
They currently have 2.2 on them. I wanted to update it but since they are only going to use them as 'play' devices and not as talk devices. The ROM I put on them doesn't have to have all the bells and whistles I suppose. I doubt I need ICS unless it has obvious benefits like battery life and whatnot.
EDIT: I don't have extra SD cards and I'm reading I need them to make a Goldcard thing. Is there away around this?
HBoot versions of 1.06, which means I can't use Revolutionary. I'm looking at AlphaRev right now but that one seems complicated.
UPDATE. Tried unrevoked3 and got the failed root, firmware too new error. What's the next best for hboot 1.06?
Becoming not worth my time. They are only going to play games on these things...I don't want to buy a couple sdcards for these to do the goldcard thing. It appears that I have to downgrade to 2.1 and then do unrevoked. I just really wanted to remove bloatware more than anything...Also, it's a US Cellular branded phone, if that means anything.
You can use revolutionary. If your hboot version is 1.06, then that means you have a CDMA Desire. Select HTC Desire CDMA on the revolutionary page, and s-off your device.
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You can use revolutionary. If your hboot version is 1.06, then that means you have a CDMA Desire. Select HTC Desire CDMA on the revolutionary page, and s-off your device.
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Well that explains a bunch! Thanks!
Ran Revolutionary but I have to get an sd card before I continue I suppose.
The SD cards will come in handy since the phone lacks adequate internal memory. You'll want to set up apps to sd somehow or I bet the kids have the phone full the first day. I used link2sd from the Play store with CM7.
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Hi, I suggest to use CyanogenMod 7.2.0.1 Stable INT2SD-S by Proz0r, read carefully the instruction and check about CMDA issue. You will have plenty of space for apps and games!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357257
I would use last nightly-Build.
there are no new features, only (sometimes important) Bugfixes.
Hi ive got a question.
Since there are so many desire roms out there, what is the best rom in terms of stability, memory and performance.
I just got a desire and my stock rom (froyo 2.2) has only 68mb of internal space where it should be ~150mb.
I dont care what Android version its based on as long as i get more app space.
Im having trouble in rooting my phone, ive used the multiple guides on xda without success (when i tried i didnt have a sd card, nor do i know if its needed). However when i do succeed i want to flash a rom, so i would know what rom to use...
Im buying a 2gb card today since i dont have one in my phone.
So if any one can help me, thanks!!
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No 'best ROM'....
Find what's best for you and your needs, not what's best for others...
There are plenty to choose from, that's the point . As a general rule, the older Gingerbread ROMs will be more stable, but the newer ones can be 'stable enough' depending on your definition.
Any custom ROM will have better memory than stock. You only need root and a correctly partitioned sd card for this, use 4EXT recovery or gparted only. As you only have a 2GB card, then a 1GB ext4 partition may be the right balance.
Most ROMs will have an A2SD script built in for more app space, or you just have to activate it (read / search each thread).
It's also advantageous to s-off the phone. Some roms fit onto smaller hboots to get even more app space.
Start here, find the bit on using revolutionary to s-off.
What he said ^
Please no more "best ROM" threads.
thread closed. :highfive: