How to S-Off ? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey, I am a complete and utter brain donor when it comes to this whole geek-speak rooting malarky.
Up until last week, the craziest thing I had done to my phone was changed the wallpaper and set a new ringtone from the Zedge app. I've had the phone for a good eight months or so!!
Been wanting to put a custom ROM on my phone for a while and I managed to root my desire last week and got the little Superuser App on my phone. I've been working through the Noobs guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
and I've gotten to the S-off part. And here I really come unstuck. I have attempted to go onto the alpharev website and I have no idea which out of Sense, Oxygen, Data++, Stock, etc I download.
The website itself, I dont even understand how to find out which one I am meant to download. Although, I understand that once I get the right one, its a fairly straightforward process of rejigging something on my laptop to read CDs before the hard drive, and plugging my phone in.
But anyway...is there anyone who can talk slowly and in complete base English so that I can attempt to s-off my phone? Cause I am completely useless.
Cheers!

Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
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After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it

True u only need it for the new gingerbread roms
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Jonnibravo said:
Download this;
http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
What your looking at is the type of partition table that comes after you have s-off, what u do now is flash the above file to a usb stick using this tutorial;
http://www.miui-au.com/installation/extras/alpharev/
Make sure u have a rooted stock Rom before beginning alpharev does not like data++ or d2w roms this one should be fine;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833310
Anything u don't understand just reply to thread
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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If you mean on my phone currently I am running my standard stock sense Rom that was on my phone when I got it.
The only thing its been done is rooted it with Unrevoked as per that previous link.
Will get back to you about the rest when I attempt it!

Jonnibravo said:
After u have done that u will have s-off, if u want to go further u can flash the cm7 partition table.
Personally I just have s-off stock partition with reflex 2.0.2 with d2w script giving me 1gb of internal storage
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Genuinely don't have a clue about what one bit of that means.. :/

EddyOS said:
Also, you don't even NEED to s-off and tbh if you're a n00b I wouldn't bother until you actually need it
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So what DO I need s-off for? And if I don't need it why is that guide tellin me to do it?
And chances are il prob want a gingerbread Rom at some point if that's the latest thing..

S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now

But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that

Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
EddyOS said:
But you can just use A2SD or Data2SD, S-OFF isn't needed for that
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True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.

monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish

monkeon said:
S-Off would be mostly to give you more internal storage, for apps, since you can change the size of the memory allocated to data
it's not necessary if you only want to use a new ROM
if you're going one step at a time, try a ROM or two before s-off
when you're feeling more confident, and settled on a rom, s-off and get a new partition table (because the table you choose now may not be the best for the rom you decide on in the future...)
in short; skip the s-off part for now
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You can also change splash screens and flash unsigned zips through
fastboot - useful if your phone gets screwed up and won't boot to rom or recovery!
I'm in agreement though, I did s-off a few weeks after root.

UberNoobster said:
And what is a partition table? Another new one on me..
Ideally I want to do some cool stuff with my phone, maybe put new splash screens on it that other people have made of course , new roms, get free apps n stuff, n make use of my 16gb SD card..
Its more just I don't properly understand the whole s-off business in that guide, although the rest of t seems straightforwardish
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the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.

monkeon said:
the internal memory of the phone is 437mb
this memory is divided into different parts: system(for rom etc), cache and data(apps etc)
this is basically the partition table; how much is allocated to what.
some roms need more space than others. some roms handle the cache differently (use sd card for it). people generally want to have more memory for data.
the way the desire is when you buy it gives 250mb to the system and 40 to the cache, leaving 147mb for data
if you use the cm7 table for example (found on alpharev site) you will have 302mb for data and apps. about twice as much as a desire straight out of the box
ok, if you want to change the splash screen you will have to s-off.
free apps can be installed without even rooting i think. making use of the sd card -> put music and movies on there!
on the alpharev site, you dont need to get any of the "data++" "oxygen" etc partition tables to do the s-off part. but you need to s-off to use them!
at the top, the "alpharev 1.8 hboot reflash utility" is what you need at this point
it will be a disc image. when you've downloaded it, burn it as per the guide and follow the video (which i havent watched.. so i cant say if it will be clear). you should now be s-off'ed
if you later want to go for a new partition table, find out what would work best for your rom... Though i think it's best at this point to find out which rom you are going to want for the long term, since wiping the phone and changing the tables and all that sh*t is very tedious.
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Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
I've burnt it to the USB but I don't know if its done properly, there's an ALPHA zip file and some other stuff on my USB stick now so how will I know if its right n good to plug my phone in and s-off betc etc?
Btw thanks to all of you for your patience!!

UberNoobster said:
Right, so basically the different partition tables on alpharev site like data++, oxygen, all just mean they will allocate a different amount of mem to your phone depending on what you want?
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Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

monkeon said:
Well, to an extent...
Oxygen is a very small rom and uses the SD for cache(?), so you can have the large /data. But using the oxygen partition table for any other rom will result in the rom being too big for /system -> it wont work.
What you should have downloaded and burned will be something.ISO
Its not totally clear on the site, but there is large text near the top; " AlphaRev 1.8 HBOOT reflash utility" click that to get the ISO
The zip files (data++ , cm7 etc) come into play after you've followed the video about s-off
What roms are you looking to try?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I downloaded a ISO file and burnt it to USB stick as per the tutorial earlier. What I've now got is am ALPHA file and a couple other files here n there so is that it good to s-off?
Haven't decided on a ROM yet, not looked properly as I thought I could s-off first then pick my ROM whenever I got round to it as the phone would still work normally though it s-offed.

Why don't you listen to more experienced members like EddyOS and just leave it well alone for the time being. Root is more than enough to try different roms and customization/modding.
It is easy to do it once you know what you are doing. BUT, if i was you, i'd just wait a bit till you get more confident with all the custom stuff.
Again, s-off is not a MUST!
What you are asking here is near enough step by step guide of how to do it, which is a clear indicator that you are not ready to do it.
erklat said:
Why, let him do it as process itself is as straightforward as it gets.
Later on, changing hboot are three simple commands in command prompt he can do whenever he feels to.
True, but a2sd with dalvik on internal provided with hboot table manipulation is more efficient than a2sd+ and data2sd scripts.
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Because, if something goes wrong, it's your fault, as you didn't mention something. He obviously couldn't sue you for that, but who needs the blame they don't deserve?
UberNoobster, i'm not saying that you are going to blame anyone if something goes wrong, but to me, if person recommends something, he is vouching for it hence takes responsibility.

I've had my phone rooted for like 8 months and I have yet to S-Off my device.
I really wouldn't recommend it for you if you have no idea what you are doing. Root is a good place to begin and right now you have the ability to customize your phone in many many ways.
Try out a new rom (may I suggest leedroid as a place to start.) Once you have a solid knowledge of the basics, then, and only then, should you make the choice if you should S-off.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ok thanks guys, and thank tinky and shaboola.
I see what you guys are saying, only reason I was gonna try to s-off was to get it done and dusted and out the road. But maybe I should leave it..
Do I still need to partition my SD card and take a nandroid back up and all that jazz when putting on a custom Rom, or do I need s-off for those things?
Cheers

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[Q] what is and why have n1table and s-off

Hello to all,
I have read a lot of thread about s-off and something like n1table but I don't understand what they are e why is better to have n1 table and s-off.
I have a full root and I flash all ROM I want.my only issue is the internal memory that is too small.I used old school app2sd but I have only 15mb free with 125app installed.is not bad but became wonderful if is possible to use only sd for data cache and app.
With s-off and n1 table I will be able to have more free space???
Sorry for my stupid question but I have tell as first thing that I don't have understand ANYTHING about.
Thanks to all
Mattia
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This should be in Q&A
What this allows you to do is repartition the memory so that it is used more efficiently. HTC have set the partitions in such a way that there is too much space for the system and cache partitions, and what is left for data is less than we would like.
By repartitioning you can get back some of that space, depending on what ROM you are using; if it's Sense, you can get about 30M back, if it's vanilla Android, 50M, or even over 100M. Have a look at the table on alpharev.nl and compare to Bravo Stock numbers, which is what you have now.
So I have understand good that with s-off can I have much memory??
If yes, how?
I'm running leeDroid 2.2f now but I like also miui....
Thanks!
sent from the future
In all honesty, if you need to ask then it's not for you. I'd be reading up on rooting, custom ROMs, the lot before even considering S-OFF...
mattiadj said:
...Sorry for my stupid question but I have tell as first thing that I don't have understand ANYTHING about....
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HTC Desire All-in-One Index: [URL="javascript:void(0);"]http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
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Custom Boot Table - N1: http://alpharev.nl/
Apps2SD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7025105
Sounds like you have 2 issues that are interlinked...internal ROM storage usage which is impacted by the initial sizes of the System, Data, and Cache partitions and subsequent implementation of A2SD+ scripting. Read ups on bullet points 2 & 3 above.
I suggest you make bullet point 1 above your first port of call for trouble-shooting. Has some really great tutorials and resources.

[Q] Is S-OFF really needed to flash custom roms?

Curious noob here. My desire's current security state is S-ON and has always been. However, I was able to use unrevoked3 to root the device, then use ROM Manager to download and flash CM7 on my device using cwr, without having to tweak the S-ON/OFF settings (simply following the installation guidelines on the cyanogenmod7 wiki page).
According to this thread, using alpharev to S-OFF the device is a mandatory step in flashing the device. I also did not repartition my sd card with Gpartition like the tutorial instructed to.
When I first flashed CM7, the installation procedure went smoothly, but the CM7 boot screen kept looping. I was able to resolve this issue by doing a factory reset/wipe data using cwr, then rebooting the device. I now have perfectly functioning CM7 on my device in S-ON state. How is this possible?
I bought the phone on craigslist from a guy who had only installed official updates from the provider, but had unlocked it using a purchased unlock code from one of those phone unlocking stores in Chinatown. Would that explain why I was able to bypass the S-ON state?
Thanks in advance!
S-OFF allows you to modify certain protected system files. For example, there is a specific boot table for CM7 that allocates less internal memory to the System, leaving more space for Data (where you store apps).
At the moment, you probably have less than 140MB free space for Apps on your phone. CM7 is quite a small ROM, so on the standard boot table (S-ON), you have ~250 MB allocated to system, and most of that is going to waste in your case. If you go S-OFF and flash the CM7 boot table, you get a much smaller system partition, which is the perfect size for CM7, plus you get ~300MB free space for apps.
So it gives you a lot more freedom, and can result in huge benefits, but it is not strictly necessary. It's a simple procedure though, so there's no reason not to do it.
I performed s-off yesterday and I can see a significant speed difference with the rom I'm using. Not to mention lots more internal memory!
In short: no. But if you want to add a custom partition table to increase your /Data memory space (for more INTERNAL memory...) or if you wish to change and/or modify system files, you'll want to do the S-OFF.
You must always wipe user data before flashing a new rom. Thats the reason why u got a bootloop the first time. Has nothing to do with s-on / s-off. Imo there is no reason why you should make it s-off unless you know what it means and what you need it for.
The chance of bricking your device is higher with s-off, since u are then able to modify the system partition.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] way to get root, i just need confirmation

Hy guys, i got one question regarding my brothers desire. he has unrooted desire and the main problem is low memory. he doesn't want me to unroot him and s-off and put some other rom so he can get better things out of his phone but it is what it is
My question is, if i format his sdcard,and put for example 512 or 768 mb of ext3 partition, should phone recognize by it self that external partion the next time card is pluged in phone, or i need to format sdcard and make hard reset to make thing work? or maybe neither option will work? So i need your suggestion and help with this one.
Best regards
To answer your question in a nutshell, no. He'll still be able to only move the apps that allow external storage, regardless of partition or size.
This is why I rooted my phone in the first place and after a lot of reading went for the safest option, due to a lack at the time of Linux knowledge. I rooted but left S-On and used a series of Sense ROM's that allow any app (apart from System apps obv.) to be moved to the ext 3 partition. Eventually settled on LeeDroid's - my favourite sense rom.
Andrewawright said:
To answer your question in a nutshell, no. He'll still be able to only move the apps that allow external storage, regardless of partition or size.
This is why I rooted my phone in the first place and after a lot of reading went for the safest option, due to a lack at the time of Linux knowledge. I rooted but left S-On and used a series of Sense ROM's that allow any app (apart from System apps obv.) to be moved to the ext 3 partition. Eventually settled on LeeDroid's - my favourite sense rom.
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if i just root him with unrevoked metod, and left s-ON, will i still have recovery such as amom ra or cw recovery?
ok to reformulate my question, i can use unrevoked and unroot phone. And then i don't need to s-off or anything.
I would do the following and i would like if you can tell me that's the right way.
1. get the drivers that are needed for unrevoked method and root
2. do the rooting stuff
3. from there on, i can format my sdcard trueout Cwrecovery which camed with unrevoked method
4. put wanted rom on root of sd card and make backup first
5. wipe all and flash a new rom
Is that the right way?
Sounds right to me.. use the search though mate you will find your answers there. Especially look at the stickies under Desire Q&A
Sent from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA App

[Q] Can you use the Alpharev HBOOT for Desire on a HTC Buzz/Wildfire?

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know if you can use the Alpharev HBOOT for Desire on a HTC Buzz/Wildfire?
Thanks
1. No. You'll posibly brick it.
2. You can use AlphaRevX/Revolutionary
I was wondering about the Alpharev HBOOT because I wanted to resize the partitions and install the Wildfire port of OxygeN which only needs about 100MB for the system.
I've found this method to resize the partitions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340 but it's not a permanent fix. Every time you want to flash a ROM update it reverts to the stock partition sizes (I know that because I've tried) so you have to run the boot patch every time.
However, what is interesting about that method is that the patch files provided are bravo-boot-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip and bravo-recovery-v1.5.3-CustomMTD.zip ... Spot the catch? Basically, they're the same files you use to resize the partitions on a HTC Desire which is also known as Bravo! Hence, I was thinking that if the same patch file works on both devices then maybe the HBOOT is the same on both devices !? And that kind of makes sense because in terms of hardware the Wildfire is simply a stripped down version of the Desire - remember that the Wildfire came out after the Desire and was ment to be a cheaper option of the same thing. Also, the internal memory of both devices (at least the bit where the system, cache and data partitions go) is the same size, i.e. 512MB. So, in simple terms it may just work!
Yet, I was wondering if anyone else has tried that before because I really wouldn't want to brick my girlfriend's phone... She would definitely kill me!
Anyway, thanks for the response and if I decide to give it a go I'll let you know what was the result.
I wouldn't try the HBoot's, to be honest. Yes, the attachments on that thread are lifted from the Bravo thread, as is (I mention it in the OP), but, they only modify the CWM Recovery, unlike the HBoot, which contains boot info as well.
Anyway, if you are feeling brave, bravo (See what I did there? ), but, as I said, I wouldn't.
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I wouldn't try the HBoot's, to be honest. Yes, the attachments on that thread are lifted from the Bravo thread, as is (I mention it in the OP), but, they only modify the CWM Recovery, unlike the HBoot, which contains boot info as well.
Anyway, if you are feeling brave, bravo (See what I did there? ), but, as I said, I wouldn't.
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Ok... well, then maybe I won't try after all...

[SOLVED] New HTC Desire (Android) user, need help

Before all jump on me being noob, yes I watched video and read rules. I hope I post this thread in place where it belongs.
I am not native English speaker so please don't throw me in fire if you see some writing errors.
I have always been Nokia user, from 1995 to this day, and now I got HTC Desire, it is old but I got it for free, it was in the box almost 1-2 years (never used) and that person discovered it before a month and gave it to me because he don't need it.
This thing is along first editions by the look of it, Android 2.1 Eclair, Amoled
I have updated it to latest official update (as I can remember 2.2.2)
I got spare MicroSD card (8GB class 10) and it working good with it (looks better then 4GB one I got with phone)
I also added some aps etc..memory was soon filled..I saw on Google that its common problem.
Now after some intro..lets go to my questions..
1. My goal is to root device and put best/stable rom with HTC Sense thing, mostly for additional memory on SD and as I did understand better control and speed of my phone - is that correct?
2. Is it possible to back-up EVERYTHING on my phone, store it to PC, and return it if I am not happy with new ROM, so I can continue to use it exactly where I left it with all my apps and file there?
3. I really don't know anything about android (some things I have read about rooting on google..) so I would need help, someone to point me at correct tutorials and rom to download. Maybe I am Android noob but I am good with PC so dont worry I will make some noob mistakes while rooting and adding new rom.
All my phone info I could find:
So its 2.2.2.
Baseband: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
Kernel: 2.6.32.15-gf5a401c [email protected] #1
Build no: 2.29.405.14 CL345208
Software: 2.29.405.14
Browser: Webkit 3.1
Hboot
Bravo PVT1 Ship S-ON
Hboot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touchpanel-synw0101
Radio-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010
If someone have will to help I would be grateful.
try this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
pretty straight foward, next time please search before starting a new thread
and if that doesnt work, search how to root desire with revolutionary
i first started with this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
very helpful if you don't know anything about what you're doing (like you and me) ^^
the most difficult question would be, which ROM to use. you said you'd like to keep Sense.
well here is an overview of every ROM you can get for your desire:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
find out the differences between them, and then decide which one suits you best. but don't be afraid to try non-sense (haha, no pun intended ) ROMs.
now some explicit answers:
(1) yes, almost every ROM allows you to move internal storage to your SD and some even speed up your device. with some you could experience reboots now and then, but thats rather rare.
(2) yes, you can backup everything. there are two ways to do that:
a - NANDroid backup: it creates some kind of an image (like the .ISO is the image of a DVD), which can be restored, so that your phone looks the same as before.
i recommend it every time you change or update your ROM. NANDroid backups are available after you rooted and S-OFF'd your device.
b - there are many apps on the market to backup nearly every part of your user data. the most popular is Titanium Backup. it can make a copy highscores, user input like passwords, bookmarks of your browser, and so on.
contacts can usually be secured via your googlemail account.
all of those backups can and will be placed on you SD card, from where you can easily copy them to your desktop pc.
question 3 is already answered...keep an eye out for sticky threads (the ones pinned on top of every sub-forum) and you will find all the information needed.
good luck.
The easiest way to learn about android is to test it out..play with it as much as you want and about rooting use revolutionary, it's the fastest and easiest method.Also, about restoring your Rom, you can do that by backing it up in recovery, nandroid backup as they call it.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
the two guides linked in the posts 2 and 3 are quite outdated. neither even mention revolutionary.
revolutionary does not give you root. it performs s-off. root comes after flashing the superuser.zip.
@OP, i always recommend this set of guides, which explain a bit more in detail about what everything is first, so you can get an understanding of what you're doing before you do it (just as important!). the video guide is also useful to take you through the actual process.
take your time, i'm sure you'll eventually find what you want :good:
Thanks to all, I will "study" all links before proceed, Like I said I was just looking for few answers with directions of correct tutorials.
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
in that case you should take a look at this:
Link2SD
it's an application that allows you to move apps to your 2nd SD partition. no need to flash ROMs or anything else.
the only premise is that you need root.
i don't know if this app has any disadvantages...
but i recommend you to take a closer look at flashing ROMs anyways, because most people (including me) claim that their phone was kinda revived with a new custom ROM.
it's really worth a try. sure, there's a huge amount of reading involved, but in the end it's simpler than you think.
NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
Thanks advance.
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first you need root to install titanium backup then, you can take complete backups of your apps, cuz installing a custom ROM will surely destroy the apps.......just take your time, you'll get it........ I took 3 Weeks like you , reading, searching and reading some more..... Then i started doing, and all things fell in place., 1 year has passed and not looking back....
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NewAndroidNoob said:
hmm..after reading all that stuff I am just confused.
Can anyone point at step-by-step tutorial of how to just make my phone have additional memory on SD card, I want to keep my official 2.2.2. ROM with all apps installed.
As I understand I need to root phone and make some linux partition on SD.
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it does take a lot of time to understand it all, that's a good thing. many people with no experience with rooting have used the guides successfully
as above, links2sd should work. however, i was exactly the same, thinking i didn't want a custom rom, just thought i wanted more memory. but a custom rom is well worth the time when you find the right one for you. :good:
the guides will show you how to partition sd card properly (gparted or 4ext recovery)
Now, I don't know how to keep apps already installed etc so thats where you guys step in with tutorials for my problem.
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BU7CH4 said in 3rd post...use apps like titanium backup. please read what we tell you
Few things to keep in mind:
I dont want S-OFF if not needed
I dont want to change my RADIO, ROM or whatever.
Just additional memory on SD card.
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s-off is not absolutely necessary, but is much more versatile, and more useful if things go wrong in the future. revolutionary will perform s-off anyway, and is ideal for your hboot version. don't be scared of it.
upgrading radio is not absolutely necessary
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
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thread wont be closed, just edit the title to [SOLVED] New HTC Desire etc
happy flashing
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Oh, lol, habits from other forums..sorry, there, title changed :victory:
NewAndroidNoob said:
So after all readings and courage building, today I have decided to run operation X (lol)
Here is what I have done for now:
1. Done many things with PC drivers and comms PC-Mobile
2. S-OFF via Revolutionary
3. Denied CUSTOM RECOVERY from Revolutionary, read somewhere that 4EXT Recovery Touch is better. (I hope I didn't do something wrong with this decision)
4. Installed 4EXT Recovery Touch - custom recovery
5. From Recovery installed Superuser-3.0.7-efgh-signed
Now, it looks like I have now HTC Desire with S-OFF and root.
If I understand correctly now I can install titanium backup and also do nandroid backups.
After all backups I do, then I can proceed to new custom roms, extend memory to SD etc..still I am not sure do I want do more then extend mem.. Well, with time I will probably explore new roms just for fun or whatever.
But for today I have done enough (too much stuff in short time for newbee ))
BTW for now all has gone without problem or errors.
Thank everyone on help.
This thread can now be closed.
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Why too much? On my first day i corrupted my nand guess it couldnt hold out on so much flashing in one day.. ) anyway have fun with your new toy

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