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Non-Sense

How do you disable sense on my Evo without rooting? I heard some nonsense about force closing sense outer whatever but it doesn't work, just curious.
All answers/suggestions are much appreciated.
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You can't. Only thing you can do is use a different launcher like LauncherPro or ADW.

Them what was all this nonsense about just force closing htc sense?
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Exactly what you said, it's nonsense.

If you don't like Sense, just flash a rom that's AOSP based and there won't be any Sense on it to disable.

It used to be that you could shut down Sense but I think HTC fixed it so you couldn't in one of their updates.
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-turn-sense-evo-4g-and-return-stock-android-home-screens

HTC fixed the bug that allowed you to forcecrash sense ui. It used to stay not running until you reset the phone or relaunched sense (assuming you had a diffrent launcher as default). they fixed that so now it jsut restarts sense either way.
your best bet is to root and flash a AOSP rom or flasha sense rom and use one of several sense removal scripts which will remove the ui and many widgets etc while keeping full functionality

I know all that I was just curious to see how a non rooted, non sense-less experience would be without installing all the hipster launchers and themes from the marketplace.
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SENSE UI or NO SENSE?

I have been using sense ui virt rom.
I loved it but noticed a bit of lost of speed when I flashed cyanogen v7.
Cyanogen was really fast for me compared to virt. rom.
What do u guys prefer?
Idk which one I shud stick too.
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Cyanogen
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xandermpls said:
Cyanogen
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I wud prefer cyanogen too but the video app can't touch focus.
And I use video a lot...
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Well sense is slower due to the fact its "packed". Well I really like sense, it looks really good. Love the wigets the most but I like cyan more because.... umm I just like it better lol.
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Sense widgets aren't as fast, but I do love the Sense clock app, the Sense clock widget, contacts widget and photo gallery widget.
the calendar widget is very laggy compared to Launcher Pro, and the actual dock/launcher bar at the bottom is a very wasteful way to use precious screen real estate. I mean - who really needs such a large button for the phone?
Launcher Pro/ADW Ex and other launchers make it really easy to save screen space by having scrollable launcher/docks...but with Sense it just wastes space.
I am using a GingerVillain ROM with ADW Ex and it works pretty well. But I am missing some of those Sense apps/widgets!

cyanogenmod is faster ,has better battery life,its more up to date and is more customizable.
sense/virtouos has much better apps and widgets such as camera,contacts,keyboard,phone,etc...
it really comes down to personal preferences.
I personally have set them both exactly the way i like and installed all the
apps that i need on them and made a back up so i regulary change between
them whenever i feel like it.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.

chobie said:
I can't believe I'm saying this but I like Sense better now than Vanilla. I have been using the vanilla for a long time now and then tried switching to sense a week ago and I love it.
I'm not a fan of the sense homescreen though but I love the camera app, phone app, gallery, and the minor quirks you get with it.
The only downside though is that IMO it drains twice as fast as stock.
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Is there a camera app like sense on the market? I'm missing the touch to focus.
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Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.

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Sense, no question. The superior camera, music, and contacts apps are a no-brainer, IMO. I don't use the Sense launcher, though - LauncherPro for me. I tried Cm7 and honestly didn't see that big of a difference. I get 12-15hours of moderate use with Virtuous v1.0, which is the best Sense ROM out there.
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What do u think about the speed on virtuous vs cyonagen
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CM is definitely faster, mainly because its built for that, specifically. Sense is built to give a better user experience. Apples and Oranges. With the stock Virtuous kernel, I don't notice a significant speed difference vs CM.
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Without sense. No question.
From my permarooted overclocked HTC G2 with cyanogen 7 nightly via XDA app

Is there any way to get the alarm clock to put a notification in the notification bar on the Sense UI like it does in the Vanilla ROMs? Everytime I hit snooze I wonder if I hit the right button. I'm currently using Virtuous v1.0.0 for the G2/DZ.

I like the sense over the "vanilla" the G2 came with. I've been using virtuous since the day it came out and have loved it. I haven't used CM but I' am comfortable with sense

i currently use MIUI but i loved sense when i used it the only thing i didint like was that you couldnt get it to not autocap , i know it sounds stupid but its really one of my pet pev's , i switch back and forth from now & again but does anyone know how to make it so it doesent autocap on sense virtu rom ?

aad4321 said:
only 1 thing i love about sense. CAMERA!
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thats exactly why i staied with Virtuous Rom.
i would go to CM but the camera app sucks..

[Q] AOSP Looking rom with Sense.

Does anyone know of a ROM that has sense but more of an AOSP look?
The Epic has one that is kinda what I am looking for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922773 It has more of an AOSP look but still has some of the TouchWiz framework.
I mostly want to still be able to use HTC Widgets and apps. Any ideas?

There are roms in the development section but if you want sense Widgets you have to use the sense launcher or launcher pro
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Just use a Sense Rom and manually modify the Rosie to look like Aosp. Assuming you just want the launcher to look like Aosp. Btw, this is easier said than done unless you know a little bit about theming and modding.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983227
VaelPak might be what your looking for.

tErbo b00st said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983227
VaelPak might be what your looking for.
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Checking that out now. Thanks!

Mm well a almost complete strip version the look like aosp and my favorite is frost rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824637
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Sense 2.1?

Is there a ROM for the latest updated EVO 4G that is stock sense 2.1 just like the thunderbolt? I like the way to lockscreen changes depending on what skin you're using. I'm currently using a sense 2.1+3.0 ROM and love it but I like the change in lockscreen like a stock thunderbolt. Thanks in advance
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I don't know of any roms for the evo that have that type of capability but as I have refered some people before pm either king or virus or some of the other devs and they might bring a port over to the evo. Also idk if you like the sense roms, but MIUI has themes like this. They change the lockscreen with each theme change.

Some skins will change your lock screen on all the sense 2.1 , 2.1-3.0 ,3.0 ROMs you just have to find a themed skin you could even find and try ones from other phones as long as they are for a 2.1 ROM they should work on the 2.1 and 2.1-3.0 ROMs and if its for a 3.0 well you get it.
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HTC phones. Sense or AOSP after root?

So just kinda wanted to see what the general consensus here is. I personally love sense and would hate to run aosp on my HTC, but I'm seeing a lot of stock android love more and more it seems.
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AOSP ROM all the way for me. Its all personal preference really. I got the one for its HW specs not SW. Sense isn't purr enough for me yet its still come a long way.
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I like sense 5 but I am over it. I much prefer the aosp look and how much I can customize it. I will flashing pac or carbon if it is ported to our phone.

Once I have s-off... Bye bye sense!
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I'll be going Sense-less as soon as possible. This is mainly because all of the ROMs I'm interested in and have used on other phones lack sense and are mostly ASOP, not because I dislike Sense. Sense isn't terrible in and of itself, the stock Sense ROM just doesn't offer enough features to make it worth-while.

AOSP / Sense-less GPE
I love the stock google lockscreen, but I hate how now that I did the 'hack' for getting rid of sense lockscreen without root, I cant see who's calling until I unlock the phone...

Apparently I'm among the minority so far. I prefer Sense, but modified along the lines of TeamVenom's Viper ROM. So many tweaks and adjustments. It's clearly still Sense, but definitely changed.

I'm with you on Sense icedragon, I ran aosp for a long time on the tbolt and loved it but im really liking Sense 5. So I'll probably be keeping sense especially if Santod or Virus make a sense rom
Edit: or newt, I can't believe I almost forgot about him. The sense 4 port he did for the tbolt was really good
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I actually like sense but I would Prefer the AOSP lock screen. But being new to android I don't really know what kind of roms are out there.
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Definitely leaning toward AOSP since I've used stock android phones (gnex, and before that -- droid 1). Sense I like using Zoe, blinkfeed, and am curious to see what customized sense roms have to offer

I ran AOSP/CM on my GS3 for a few months, but have liked Sense quite a bit so far. Just a few features I miss, namely the ability to switch between notifications and quick settings by swiping the bottom bar (where VZW is listed). Saved a fair amount of time, oddly enough.

I've tried both and keep coming back to Sense for Zoe, the stock Sense gallery (looks more beautiful and alive to me) and Blinkfeed. If they could be incorporated into Beanstalk or maybe PAC man, that might draw me away.
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Sense 5 is the first time ever that I actually LIKE Sense.

I love CyanogenMod but can't stand the crappy radios as of now.

I like sense five, but I liked it more with the original pull down lockscreen I had on my evo honestly. Never a huge fan of the aosp lockscreen. Especially before ics
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cesium said:
I ran AOSP/CM on my GS3 for a few months, but have liked Sense quite a bit so far. Just a few features I miss, namely the ability to switch between notifications and quick settings by swiping the bottom bar (where VZW is listed). Saved a fair amount of time, oddly enough.
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Or you can two finger swipe from the top to get straight to the quick settings.
Personally will be sticking with sense roms. Every aosp rom I've used, something was either broken or wonky because they had to hack it to get it to work at all. And I'm digging zoe.
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I have used AOSP for the last couple years. It is nice to have a rom with zero bugs and still runs fast and has good features. I will probably stick with sense roms for stability unless I see some really cool things come out for AOSP.
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I am already running a custom launcher and Widget Locker for the lock screen so I will probably jump from a Sense rom as soon as it is possible, or at the very least freeze a bunch of the apps that I am not using.
The Camera and Gallery are the only couple I may keep in the long run. Blinkfeed is nice but I cannot add it to a different launcher so it is a bit useless to me at the moment.

What's wrong with the radios on AOSP? I too will be deciding between Sense and AOSP.
I love HTC devices for the reliable signal reception. I don't want to sacrifice that.

calash said:
The Camera and Gallery are the only couple I may keep in the long run. Blinkfeed is nice but I cannot add it to a different launcher so it is a bit useless to me at the moment.
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Zoe and the HTC gallery won't work on non-Sense based roms (including 4.3 GPE roms). You can still use custom launchers with Blinkfeed in one of two ways. If the launcher allows you to set up shortcuts on your home screen (Nova I think allows this but others do as well), you can set up a shortcut to the Sense launcher and just delete the other pages, leaving just Blinkfeed. Also if you are rooted, you can download the MoDaCo Toolbox and in there it will allow you to create a Blinkfeed "app" that takes you to your Blinkfeed.
Have your cake and eat it too.
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