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I was just wondering if anyone could just post the basic's of rooting, not how to do it, but everything I need to know and keep in mind, what everything means, if say something goes wrong, or need to re-flash a rom, just the basic's, I can follow directions just fine, so I don't think ill have any problems rooting.
I did the unrevoked method, just to get superuser and install a few apps, waiting to do the toast method once a good ROM comes out, and now that Fresh is out, I think it is time.
It is really pretty easy. I think setting up adb is the hardest part and it's not too bad either if you follow a guide here.
If searching xda isn't enough try youtube.
This is a bad idea.
Rooting isn't that hard, the instructions are clear. If it became any easier then everyone would do it and we would have people coming out of the woodwork asking for help for this that and the other.
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This is a bad idea.
Rooting isn't that hard, the instructions are clear. If it became any easier then everyone would do it and we would have people coming out of the woodwork asking for help for this that and the other.
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Who cares if "everyone comes out of the woodwork"???? People take this far too seriously...it's a freakn' phone. If there are a ton of noob questions on here, so be it. The world will not end. If you don't like the questions, there is a button on your mouse that will help you skip past it. I thought that's what forums were designed for in the first place??
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I was just wondering if anyone could just post the basic's of rooting, not how to do it, but everything I need to know and keep in mind, what everything means, if say something goes wrong, or need to re-flash a rom, just the basic's, I can follow directions just fine, so I don't think ill have any problems rooting.
I did the unrevoked method, just to get superuser and install a few apps, waiting to do the toast method once a good ROM comes out, and now that Fresh is out, I think it is time.
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it's honestly REALLY EASY, you flash a zip, reboot, flash another zip then flash a rom and your done.
Installing the ROM on my phone wasn't what I was concerned about.... but whatever, flashing now.
How do you install unrevoked? I would like to try this method if is possible since I had my evo rooted then I unrooted and install the OTA and now I can't root it anymore.
http://unrevoked.com/m/
Go there, and then click the image, it will install itself. Make sure in the options you make it so it can download unautorized files.
Please feel free to move this in another section if a mod feels like it's out of place.
I'm new to Android, but not new to HTC devices. I used to have a WM6.1 (later 6.5) HTC Fuze/Touch Pro. Part of the reason I preferred an HTC phone over a Samsung or other manufacturer is the XDA community.
That being said, I understand that rooting seems to be the equivalent of doing the hard SPL on WM which enables you to flash a custom ROM.
I also understand there was an OTA patch on the launch day that addressed the microSD card issue and the root vulnerability.
So I guess this is really a two part question - the only thing I'm interested in rooting for is free tethering (I don't really care if it's over wi-fi or USB cable, either is fine but I suppose I'd prefer wi-fi). As far as programs and all that, I'm happy with everything that is already on the phone.
I've also read that cooked ROMs "degrade" over time - is this true? And is it true for stock ROMs as well?
1. Is there a root that gets by the latest OTA update?
2. Other than wi-fi tethering and some other apps, what advantages does rooting have? I'd rather not totally **** my phone up... but if it's just as easy if not easier to root than it is to do a hard SPL, then PLEASE let me know. I feel dumb reading some of these "easy guides" for rooting and they don't answer all of my questions. For example, if any of the root methods bypasses the most recent OTA.
Perhaps there are more answers in the comments, but I don't want read that much while I'm at work. Yes, call me lazy if you want.
Many, many thanks in advance, and if someone wanted to write a pre-school level rooting guide with pics, that would be AWESOME and I'd be eternally indebted to you... that is if rooting gives me more hookups then just wi-fi tethering.
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I've also read that cooked ROMs "degrade" over time - is this true? And is it true for stock ROMs as well?
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I don't know what you mean by the "degrade"... but if you're talking about ROM's not being maintained for their entire life cycle, that happens rarely here. Alll the Dev's here seem to maintain there ROM's very well, users send feedback in a variety of ways so that the ROM's are always up to date and customized with each new version. Stock ROM's are just that, stock. They don't usually get much customization and aren't maintained, because of the newer more customized ROM's that are put out by the Dev's.
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1. Is there a root that gets by the latest OTA update?
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Yes, you can use either the UnRevoked method or Toast's method -- I recommend using Toast's method as it will give you full root access.
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2. Other than wi-fi tethering and some other apps, what advantages does rooting have? I'd rather not totally **** my phone up... but if it's just as easy if not easier to root than it is to do a hard SPL, then PLEASE let me know. I feel dumb reading some of these "easy guides" for rooting and they don't answer all of my questions. For example, if any of the root methods bypasses the most recent OTA.
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If you're someone that likes to overclock your phone, you now have that ability; on top of the other things you mentioned (tethering, customizable ROM's, etc). Also, rooting isn't very hard at all, just follow the directions as stated and you'll be good to go. If you really want a seamlessly (but limited) root hack -- you can use the UnRevoked method, which is a simple application that basically toggles root access for you on your phone. Toast's method is a bit more in depth, but if you have experience with hacking your phone, you'll be fine.
And yes, these root methods BYPASS! the most recent OTA.
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Perhaps there are more answers in the comments, but I don't want read that much while I'm at work. Yes, call me lazy if you want.
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Indeed you are.
pekosROB said:
Many, many thanks in advance, and if someone wanted to write a pre-school level rooting guide with pics, that would be AWESOME and I'd be eternally indebted to you... that is if rooting gives me more hookups then just wi-fi tethering.
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There are a couple of threads already featuring "How-To" root with pictures. Please look in the Android Development thread.
I did a root. The only real positive thing is the free wifi tethering. But you can do that w/ the unrevoked root which is mind numbingly easy.
The different ROMs aren't dramatically shocking exactly. When 2.2 is final and error free I will flash to that. Otherwise my phone works just fine.
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Yes, you can use either the UnRevoked method or Toast's method -- I recommend using Toast's method as it will give you full root access.
rutter9 said:
I did a root. The only real positive thing is the free wifi tethering. But you can do that w/ the unrevoked root which is mind numbingly easy.
The different ROMs aren't dramatically shocking exactly. When 2.2 is final and error free I will flash to that. Otherwise my phone works just fine.
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So it sounds like I just need to look for the UnRevoked method since all I really care about is wifi tethering.
Has this been working with full 4G access as well? Not that it matters right now since I'm not in a 4G market, but soon hope to be.
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Yes, you can use either the UnRevoked method or Toast's method -- I recommend using Toast's method as it will give you full root access.
Oh yeah, and anything that backs up all the apps and settings and **** on my phone? Otherwise I'd have to write it all down the old fashion way... that's the main reason I don't wanna fully root, because I'm lazy and I doubt I'll use all the benefits... but then again... if i Could find something that backed everything up and my info, I'd be in heaven.
Thanks guys!
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Oh yeah, and anything that backs up all the apps and settings and **** on my phone? Otherwise I'd have to write it all down the old fashion way... that's the main reason I don't wanna fully root, because I'm lazy and I doubt I'll use all the benefits... but then again... if i Could find something that backed everything up and my info, I'd be in heaven.
Thanks guys!
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In order to have the ability to backup everything on your phone, you can use Titanium Backup (it's in the Market; and you mighr need root -- use UnRevoked) or use Toast's method and be able to do Nandroid back ups, which would image your phone and save it, so you can restore it at a later date.
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In order to have the ability to backup everything on your phone, you can use Titanium Backup (it's in the Market; and you mighr need root -- use UnRevoked) or use Toast's method and be able to do Nandroid back ups, which would image your phone and save it, so you can restore it at a later date.
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So it sounds like my best option is to use unrevoked in order to use Titanium Backup and then after that save the backup on the SD card and use toast's method to get full access, use titanium backup to recall info, and then use nandroid from there on out? Sounds like a lot of work - but at least I don't have to redownload and enter all my info in everything again.
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So it sounds like my best option is to use unrevoked in order to use Titanium Backup and then after that save the backup on the SD card and
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Skip this ^ part, it's redundant with the next part.
use toast's method to get full access, use titanium backup to recall info, and then use nandroid from there on out? Sounds like a lot of work - but at least I don't have to redownload and enter all my info in everything again.
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Edit: nevermind, forgot you wanted to back it all up prior to full root.
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So it sounds like my best option is to use unrevoked in order to use Titanium Backup and then after that save the backup on the SD card and use toast's method to get full access, use titanium backup to recall info, and then use nandroid from there on out? Sounds like a lot of work - but at least I don't have to redownload and enter all my info in everything again.
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No No No.
You don't even have to worry about backing up your phone before rooting; there is a stock RUU image that will allow you to bring your phone back to factory default settings if you happen to screw up anything during rooting your phone or if you just want to go back to Stock period.
I would just root your phone using Toast's method, its really not that hard. If you want to tether and be able to backup your phone; having a full root access hack is preferred, plus then you have the ability to customize your phone with new themes, kernels, etc... and you may say you don't want to do that; but believe me you will.
Also, in regards to "recalling info" -- what do you mean? Since you're new to Android, i'll tell you that Google manages all your information for you. Your contacts, you Email, your apps, etc. If you move to another phone, your contacts and your Email will come with you. When you first get your phone, you have to sign in with a Gmail account, that account houses all your information for the phone and as such also keeps tracks of all your contacts and what not. Titanium Backup isn't really needed, if you're worried about losing information or whatever initially before rooting, then sure -- use it. Otherwise, if you already have all your information associated with your Gmail account that's being used by the phone, then I'd just root and after you've rooted, then do a Nandroid backup.
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Skip this ^ part, it's redundant with the next part.
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But I thought doing a full root wipes your device clean? I'm trying to back it up before doing Toast's root in order to not have to configure everything again (Besides phone settings).
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But I thought doing a full root wipes your device clean? I'm trying to back it up before doing Toast's root in order to not have to configure everything again (Besides phone settings).
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I edited my post... forgot about that.
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Also, in regards to "recalling info" -- what do you mean? Since you're new to Android, i'll tell you that Google manages all your information for you. Your contacts, you Email, your apps, etc. If you move to another phone, your contacts and your Email will come with you. When you first get your phone, you have to sign in with a Gmail account, that account houses all your information for the phone and as such also keeps tracks of all your contacts and what not. Titanium Backup isn't really needed, if you're worried about losing information or whatever initially before rooting, then sure -- use it. Otherwise, if you already have all your information associated with your Gmail account that's being used by the phone, then I'd just root and after you've rooted, then do a Nandroid backup.
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"Recalling info" means website logins, eBuddy accounts, settings for particular programs, my checkbook program with all the info in it.
I understand a lot of programs put **** on the SDcard, but will the actual programs that I've downloaded to the phone still be there? Rooting doesn't require a hard reset unless you mess up the process?
I understand the contacts and email - I'm not worried about that. Since I'm such a dedicated Gmail user I wanted to get into Android.
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"Recalling info" means website logins, eBuddy accounts, settings for particular programs, my checkbook program with all the info in it.
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I don't do any of that, I wipe my cache and history, just because. But I would presume Titanium backup would take care of this, I've never needed to use Titanium, so I don't know.
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I understand a lot of programs put **** on the SDcard, but will the actual programs that I've downloaded to the phone still be there? Rooting doesn't require a hard reset unless you mess up the process?
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Currently the programs will not be there. Froyo 2.2 should allow for this to happen though. Our phones are currently running Android 2.1 and Toast's method will wipe everything on the phone when you begin the rooting process (so yes, its a "hard reset").
Here is an awesome question and answer blog to root or not to root. Good read for the noobs!
http://www.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa
I come from a similar background as you, WinMo to Android. I will say the current options after rooting are limited. I went ahead and did it, and honestly the only thing I feel happened was I spent hours reconfiguring my home screens and settings/apps. The phone doesn't feel any faster and it doesn't have any new capabilities.
I appreciate the time the people put into ROMs and rooting and I know its hard work, its just too early to get a lot of tangible benefits.
If I could I would go back, I would just use UnrEVOked (I did for a few days). It's your stock ROM with the ability to tether. That's all most people would really want right now anyways.
Breakthecycle2 said:
Here is an awesome question and answer blog to root or not to root. Good read for the noobs!
http://www.androidcentral.com/rooting-it-me-some-qa
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Many thanks!
Pops_G said:
I come from a similar background as you, WinMo to Android. I will say the current options after rooting are limited. I went ahead and did it, and honestly the only thing I feel happened was I spent hours reconfiguring my home screens and settings/apps. The phone doesn't feel any faster and it doesn't have any new capabilities.
I appreciate the time the people put into ROMs and rooting and I know its hard work, its just too early to get a lot of tangible benefits.
If I could I would go back, I would just use UnrEVOked (I did for a few days). It's your stock ROM with the ability to tether. That's all most people would really want right now anyways.
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I think I might just stick with UnrEVOked then. Do I just search for a tether app on the marketplace that says "root required"?
pseudoremora said:
I don't do any of that, I wipe my cache and history, just because. But I would presume Titanium backup would take care of this, I've never needed to use Titanium, so I don't know.
Currently the programs will not be there. Froyo 2.2 should allow for this to happen though. Our phones are currently running Android 2.1 and Toast's method will wipe everything on the phone when you begin the rooting process (so yes, its a "hard reset").
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OK, so will the Sprint TV program and that kinda stuff be back? Because it sounds like it'll wipe it back to factory settings, allow for root access, but it'll still have the default programs when I'm done rooting that came with the phone out of the box?
Sorry, I am a total noob at Android Rooting. But I can hard SPL and flash cooked ROMs on WM all day long... haha pathetic.
XDA members ARE THE ****! :-D
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OK, so will the Sprint TV program and that kinda stuff be back? Because it sounds like it'll wipe it back to factory settings, allow for root access, but it'll still have the default programs when I'm done rooting that came with the phone out of the box?
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Yes. That's exactly what will happen. You'll have a stock, rooted phone, which you can now install a custom recovery image onto (The recovery image is how you would make backups of your phone, install custom themes, ROM's, wipe your phone, etc).
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Sorry, I am a total noob at Android Rooting. But I can hard SPL and flash cooked ROMs on WM all day long... haha pathetic.
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It's understandable, everyone here at some point or another was a "noob", but that changes quickly!
pseudoremora said:
Yes. That's exactly what will happen. You'll have a stock, rooted phone, which you can now install a custom recovery image onto (The recovery image is how you would make backups of your phone, install custom themes, ROM's, wipe your phone, etc).
It's understandable, everyone here at some point or another was a "noob", but that changes quickly!
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I'm doing this at work and want to make it as stress free as possible...
I'm looking at the Rooting instructions by Toast, and I've noticed it says to not accept any OTAs once you root. So is there a chance my microSD card will not work? Or has this issue been resolved/updated?
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
or this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
Once I root with the PC36IMG, do I then immediately have to install a ROM like this to get it back to stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693980
But only after doing the Recovery? I think I got this figured out about 75%... heh
pekosROB said:
I'm doing this at work and want to make it as stress free as possible...
I'm looking at the Rooting instructions by Toast, and I've noticed it says to not accept any OTAs once you root. So is there a chance my microSD card will not work? Or has this issue been resolved/updated?
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690762
or this one? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
Once I root with the PC36IMG, do I then immediately have to install a ROM like this to get it back to stock?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693980
But only after doing the Recovery? I think I got this figured out about 75%... heh
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Alright,
You need to follow the steps in THIS thread first. This is the first part of rooting your Evo using Toast's method. The first part will allow you to gain only about 50% root access and you'll also be able to use Amon_RA's recovery to make a Nandroid backup and flash a custom ROM; but hold off on that until you've completed the next step, continue reading...
Then you need to follow Toast's SECOND part of the rooting process, this process will complete the root hack altogether. This second part will give you full root access on every partition on the phone (which was missing in part 1). After you complete this second part, you can NOW install a custom ROM, recovery, etc.
So, basically, do the first part -- after you've completed it, do the second part... the second part will look similar to the first, but download all the new files and follow the directions as written! You'll see that the last step in the second part will instruct you to install Amon_RA's recovery image, do that. After that's done, you now have:
1. Full root access
2. A Custom recovery image (Amon_RA's)
3. You can make a Nandroid back up
4. Can install/flash custom ROM's
5. Tether
6. Etc.
To boot into recovery mode, do as follows:
1. Turn of your phone -- hold the power button, choose power off.
2. Press Volume Down + Power, until you see a white bootloading screen, using your Volume rocker keys (up and down), choose recovery.. then to select "recovery", click the Power button. Your phone will reboot, and go into recovery. This is where you can make a Nandroid backup and flash custom ROM's. Follow the instructions in recovery to navigate around it.
Also, as far as flashing custom ROM's goes, please look at this link
This is the Wiki page for all the current ROM's that have been made for the Evo.
If you get stuck or need anymore help -- continue asking questions; but please also look at this before doing so.
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Alright,
You need to follow the steps in THIS thread first. This is the first part of rooting your Evo using Toast's method. The first part will allow you to gain only about 50% root access and you'll also be able to use Amon_RA's recovery to make a Nandroid backup and flash a custom ROM; but hold off on that until you've completed the next step, continue reading...
Then you need to follow Toast's SECOND part of the rooting process, this process will complete the root hack altogether. This second part will give you full root access on every partition on the phone (which was missing in part 1). After you complete this second part, you can NOW install a custom ROM, recovery, etc.
So, basically, do the first part -- after you've completed it, do the second part... the second part will look similar to the first, but download all the new files and follow the directions as written! You'll see that the last step in the second part will instruct you to install Amon_RA's recovery image, do that. After that's done, you now have:
1. Full root access
2. A Custom recovery image (Amon_RA's)
3. You can make a Nandroid back up
4. Can install/flash custom ROM's
5. Tether
6. Etc.
To boot into recovery mode, do as follows:
1. Turn of your phone -- hold the power button, choose power off.
2. Press Volume Down + Power, until you see a white bootloading screen, using your Volume rocker keys (up and down), choose recovery.. then to select "recovery", click the Power button. Your phone will reboot, and go into recovery. This is where you can make a Nandroid backup and flash custom ROM's. Follow the instructions in recovery to navigate around it.
Also, as far as flashing custom ROM's goes, please look at this link
This is the Wiki page for all the current ROM's that have been made for the Evo.
If you get stuck or need anymore help -- continue asking questions; but please also look at this before doing so.
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sweet, thanks. I've already gotten the first part of the root access done, I'm just on that part where I have rename the file on the card.
Hi all,
Considering picking up an EVO to replace my touch pro2. If not evo, then an epic.
I was just wondering if there's a good intro link i should read up on, especially as far as installing custom rom's etc goes. I believe i need to get root access on the phone to do that, correct? is there a beginners guide on how to do that? Or a guide on available custom ROM's?
thanks
merkk said:
Hi all,
Considering picking up an EVO to replace my touch pro2. If not evo, then an epic.
I was just wondering if there's a good intro link i should read up on, especially as far as installing custom rom's etc goes. I believe i need to get root access on the phone to do that, correct? is there a beginners guide on how to do that? Or a guide on available custom ROM's?
thanks
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just peruse the development forums for the Evo- each link is either a custom rom available, or a root method. Read through the root methods on how to go about rooting and nand unlocking the evo.
Check the wiki first - it will point you to all of the roms, radios, tutorials, etc.
The best place to get all of that info is the wiki, the stickies, and this thread, which benchmarks over 40 kernels and will help you choose the ones you want to try. If you don't quite understand all of the data in that thread (and the website it point you to), it will make more sense once you go through the wiki and stickies.
some quick answers - you do need to be rooted to flash a rom, which may or may not come with a custom kernel that breaks the fps cap, and may or may not be over/underclocked. If you don't like the kernel the rom comes with, try another, until you find a combo that works best with your phone (because not all evo's are created equal).
Most important thing to know is nand backup (with either amon ra, or clockwork/rom manager) before flashing ANYTHING.
nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?
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nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?
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Yes, and yes.
merkk said:
nand backup? does that backup the original rom of the phone in case i muck something up and need to restore it? or should i just go RTFM before i ask more questions?
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lol, yeah, do your reading so you understand everything before you actually do anything. One of the subpages has a sticky on common misconceptions. It's pretty good, and someone posted a set of questions in that thread that you should be comfortable answering before you attempt root.
As far as nand goes, it backs up the current state (like a restore point in windows) of the phone at that time - so do one right before you flash anything, weather its a new Rom, kernel, radio, etc. That way if you run into bootloops or something, you can always go back to a working version of your Rom.
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Yes, and yes.
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Not true. It doesn't back up your original rom, just whichever one you have on it when you back it up.
IE you can't do a nand backup of a completely stock unrooted rom. You have to root in order to install the custom recovery which will allow you to back up
There are a few posts that explain how to unroot. The easiest way I have found is to run the first part of SimpleRoot then run the RUU program that you can find in various places in the forum.
Also a good habit to get into is wiping before you flash. It's a pain for having to backup settings, but I've had to unroot and reroot a few times because my 4g would get borked and stuff like that.
ok - one last question, i promise (maybe). Does the method of rooting change significantly from phone to phone? i.e. if i get an epic instead of an evo, will that make much of a difference? My guess would be no since they are running the same OS. I'm still not sure if i want an evo or epic. Gonna try and take a look at them both when i head out for lunch.
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Not true. It doesn't back up your original rom, just whichever one you have on it when you back it up.
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The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.
merkk said:
ok - one last question, i promise (maybe). Does the method of rooting change significantly from phone to phone? i.e. if i get an epic instead of an evo, will that make much of a difference? My guess would be no since they are running the same OS. I'm still not sure if i want an evo or epic. Gonna try and take a look at them both when i head out for lunch.
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they can vary. like for the evo all you have to do is click a button now and your are rooted. go to the epic forums to see how they work. there are a lot of complaints w/ the epic for data uploads and gps. but then again the evo had problems when it first came out too. (now it's awesome )
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The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.
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the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.
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The OP is new; not new to planet Earth. Obviously it's going to back up whatever you have on it.
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LoL. Thanks. And yeah - i meant it would back up whatever is currently on the phone when you run it. Obviously if i need to root the phone before using that particular backup utility, it wont be backing up the original rom.
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the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.
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I appreciate both your comments. I wasn't aware that that backup utility required the phone to be rooted first before using it. So I assumed i could install it unrooted, and use it to backup the phone. I do realize though that it's not going to be able to backup something that''s already changed before i install the backup program.
FattySparks said:
the OP said will it back up your original rom. No it does not. It backs up the custom rom that you put on in order to root.
The OP may not have known that, and I really don't appreciate your snide remark when all I'm trying to do is help someone out.
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Ok, then let me put it another way:
In order to create a nand back up, your phone is already rooted with nand unlocked one way or another. In which case, the "original" rom is not even on the phone. If the original rom was on the phone, you wouldn't be able to back it up anyway, so by definition, what I said is correct.
I assumed the OP meant whatever rom he was on before he started experimenting with roms. I wasn't trying to be snide; my apologies if I came across that way. Maybe next time I'll put a smiley face next to my comments so they aren't taken out of context.
merkk said:
I appreciate both your comments. I wasn't aware that that backup utility required the phone to be rooted first before using it. So I assumed i could install it unrooted, and use it to backup the phone. I do realize though that it's not going to be able to backup something that''s already changed before i install the backup program.
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Apparently, both FattySparks and I were wrong. lol Yes, your phone needs to already be fully rooted to back up a rom, because it requires reading/writing from/to the system. However, once you root the phone and unlock nand, the back up you create will not be the original rom anymore. The original rom is available (called an RUU) if you search the Evo development section.
ok got it - thanks for the info/explanations
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Just got the phone yesterday and so far I like it. I really don't like the on screen keyboard though . but the speech to text kind of makes up for that
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Hello everyone
I am looking for some guidance as I have a stock DHD 2.3 (freshly updated) If there's someone who can tell me the steps and eventually the links because I don't know the order of the rooting process nor where to find the tools I shall hit the thanks button madly and hope I won't end with a big digital brick..
also any recommended ROMS?
thanks in advance
Well, you need to downgrade first DOWNGRADE LINK.
Then after radio S-OFF (you dont have to, but it'll be much better) you can install ROM Manager and flash CWM recovery.
The CWM recovery will allow you to flash new Custom ROMs to your device.
You can then go back up to 2.3, or do whatever you want really.
I can't suggest any ROM to you, because everyone has their own taste in ROMs. I flashed a Stock-ROOTED 2.3 ROM and modified it to my liking using many different MODs out there.
But the android development section contains many different ROMs.
EDIT: CWM recovery will add many advantages to your phone. One big advantage is backing up your phones current ROM (aka Nandroid).
If anything goes wrong while trying to flash other ROMs or MODs, you can just simply restore your backup (and if you know where the problem is, you can restore only part of the backup). This feature is what made me install (or flash) CWM recovery.
And plus, it makes flashing ROMs and other stuff so easyyyyyy!!!
This forum isn't here to hold peoples hands to get them through rooting processes etc. All information is gathered in quite simple guides that are available for everyone to read so we won't have to explain over and over again to the thousands of new users how to do everything. Your question have been asked countless times and you would have found multiple threads with everything explained thouroughly if you used the search function (read the rules). But instead you created a new thread and made it harder for the next person to find information because this forum is filling up with a lot of similar threads that could have been avoided if people spent some time searching the forum. I don't mean to be offensive, but you have to be able to do something on your own if you want to enter the world of custom roms etc. New users should do some researching so that they know what they're getting in to and not just jump in head first and hope that somebody does everything for them
Anyway, here's something to get you started:
EDIT: Better guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964996
Edit: youtube video by xda-developers.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
Hawks556 said:
Edit: youtube video by xda-developers.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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HAHAHA, yea i just watched that, its so true though!!!
Hey! thanks again, both of you.. I just needed the order, I'll search over the forum for anything else. Hawks556, you are right but you are rude though.. you don't have to be so severe, it is a forum an I felt free to ask.. of course I'm not the first to have this question, I'm not one of a kind..
again thank you for your help and indeed, the youtube video is soo true! )
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Hey! thanks again, both of you.. I just needed the order, I'll search over the forum for anything else. Hawks556, you are right but you are rude though.. you don't have to be so severe, it is a forum an I felt free to ask.. of course I'm not the first to have this question, I'm not one of a kind..
again thank you for your help and indeed, the youtube video is soo true! )
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I'm sorry if I sounded harsh, I didn't mean to. Just tried to make my point clear. (The fact that 3 or 4 similar threads was started just today might also have something to do with it ). I wish you all the luck with your project
It's ok and you are right, there's no arguing
now I have a question: regarding the goldcard, I don't understand if I have to get a different card from my actual 8gb I'm using, make it a gold card and then switch back to my non-gold former card, or I have to use my phone all the time with this new goldcard??
thanks
tibrocks said:
It's ok and you are right, there's no arguing
now I have a question: regarding the goldcard, I don't understand if I have to get a different card from my actual 8gb I'm using, make it a gold card and then switch back to my non-gold former card, or I have to use my phone all the time with this new goldcard??
thanks
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try here
http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-make-gold-card-for-htc-desire-hd/
I use a different card generally it is only used to bypass security... so does not need to be used all the time .... if you use your normal card backup it up as you may trash
I tried to get Visionary+ but it has Trojan virus... anywhere else safer?!
and I don't get it, after permaroot is S-OFF (radio s-off) and after that what?! after my phone is S-OFF I install RomManager or is there sth in between?
Heres a genuine link .. LINK
well, after S-OFF, you install ROM Manager, then choose the first option from ROM Manager ('flash clockworkMod Recovery').
--ROM Manager and CWM recovery is not a MUST, but is needed to flash ROM and MODs to your device.
let me make it clear...
radio S-OFF is to allow you to flash new radios(if you dont know what a radio is, search ).
ENG S-OFF allows you to do more extreme things and can get you out of a 'nearly bricked' device (so i've heard). It makes your phone VERY flexible and allows you to modify nearly everything!
^--this is to my knowledge--^
anyway, this isnt needed to be rooted, it just increases the amount of thing you can do with your phone.
CWM recovery flashes over your stock HTC Recovery. Its also not a must, but also allows MUCH more flexibility.
tibrocks said:
I tried to get Visionary+ but it has Trojan virus... anywhere else safer?!
and I don't get it, after permaroot is S-OFF (radio s-off) and after that what?! after my phone is S-OFF I install RomManager or is there sth in between?
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Ignore that virus warning, it'd be your AV identifying it as a rootkit, which oddly enough it is. If you can add it to your whitelist or disable your AV whilst downloading/moving it from your PC to your phone.
thanks for clearing the things for me.. as for the link, there's the virus.. This is what my Nod32 says.. I've searched on other sites to download but still the same..
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Ignore that virus warning, it'd be your AV identifying it as a rootkit, which oddly enough it is. If you can add it to your whitelist or disable your AV whilst downloading/moving it from your PC to your phone.
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Ok, I'll try this way but I'm afraid it'll harm my PC.. ) anyone who risked?
tibrocks said:
Ok, I'll try this way but I'm afraid it'll harm my PC.. ) anyone who risked?
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yes ..the are more than few Thousands of us ..(more than 10 000 only on Android Revolution HD)
just follow the indications in the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905003
and everything will be just fine
and if something doesnt works the way is supposed to be...believe me ..YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG...these steps are verified
MAY THE DROID BE WITH YOU
What have I done wrong? attempting to downgrade, this is what I got (every time)
it worked after reboot
tibrocks said:
it worked after reboot
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Now that you have root and s-off....finaly you are really abbe to Brick your phone ....i'm just jocking enjoy your DHD..... and from all the ROMS i recommend Android Revolution HD
si daca ai nelamuriri vis a vis de ceva ...trimite-mi un PM
Sorry Folks, I'm new to this site/forum, I would like to upgrade my HTC Desire HD to the 4.0 update, which I read/watched is working well. My problem is I'm fairly handy with my phone and somewhat with computers. But I don't see/understand how to actually go about that. I thought I saw somewhere, that I am to factory reset my phone, I can handle that, but I guess what I don't understand, is how I actually get the update ONTO the phone. Do I just go this website and clink on a link from my phone and it will take over? If so, which one, I see links all over the place. Should I remove my memory card? I'm assuming this site is for really phone, computer savy people. I just want to try the update. Would be happy to donate to the site, once I get it going. Can someone please help me. Thanks for everyone's time of reading this. Sorry for my ignorance.
Cheers.
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Sorry Folks, I'm new to this site/forum, I would like to upgrade my HTC Desire HD to the 4.0 update, which I read/watched is working well. My problem is I'm fairly handy with my phone and somewhat with computers. But I don't see/understand how to actually go about that. I thought I saw somewhere, that I am to factory reset my phone, I can handle that, but I guess what I don't understand, is how I actually get the update ONTO the phone. Do I just go this website and clink on a link from my phone and it will take over? If so, which one, I see links all over the place. Should I remove my memory card? I'm assuming this site is for really phone, computer savy people. I just want to try the update. Would be happy to donate to the site, once I get it going. Can someone please help me. Thanks for everyone's time of reading this. Sorry for my ignorance.
Cheers.
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Before screwing your phone read this guide carefully Post #7 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379)
There are also lots of interesting stuff in there so read, read and read.
Hi, its a little more complicated than you suggest in your post.
First you will need to disable the security on your device (known as s-off) and flash a custom recovery.
You need to download the rom you wish to install and save it to your sd card. See here for a list of custom roms, there is a section for Android 4.0:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610483
Boot the phone into recovery, wipe you phone data and factory reset then install the rom.
You can use this to unlock the phone and flash clockworkmod recovery:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=74
Do loads of searching this forum and googling so you fully understand the process as there is a chance of bricking your phone if it goes wrong. If you do your homework, are methodical and computer savy as you mentioned you should be fine.
Good luck!
Thanks, But...think I'm screwed.
Thanks Guys for your help, but I think this is way beyond me. Its not that I'm lazy, but I can't see myself reading tons of posts and researching for days to do this. I'm having a hard time even finding relevant info that pertains to what I'm trying to do, links and stuff everywhere. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask for to have a step by step guide. You know what I mean ie: Step 1, Factory Reset, Step 2, download this file Step 3. Run it etc... Oh well, I will just suffer with this phone, and probably get stung getting out of my contract early and get a Samsung G3 or something. I had thought this was as easy as factory resetting my phone, downloading a thing or two and then just running it. Too bad there wasn't a store or place I could take this to, to get it done properly by people in the know. Would gladly pay to have this done.
Thanks.
Everything you need is in the link and guide glevitan gave you. But you do need to read. If you don't want to, the rooting and flashing isn't for you.
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