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[Q] {Q} ClockworkMod

now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery

s0xpan said:
now im coming from many other android related phones but what i remember most that may help....ima test this but i remember ClockworkMod Recovery being used for MT3GS.......we go into our stock recovery; click update.zip (which was the clockwork recovery) and it would boot up a recovery mode that way; has anyone attempted this?
....Just a thought towards root or atleast custom recovery
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The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.

Big Dawg 23 said:
The way I understand is the locked or bug in NAND will not allow for a recover. It removes all SU permissions on reboot.
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i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?

This thread can't be serious.
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unforgiven512 said:
This thread can't be serious.
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so it cant be serious because i have an idea? that can help speed up the development for your phone? thanks guy

s0xpan said:
i feel as if if we can get into fastboot and do modifications that way (thanks Modaco) why cant we go even further to be that a means of rooting; with appropriate scripts? why is it people are like *sigh* i have no root but i have temp root.......nand locked but i can do **** with android actually open; what if there was a way to initiate visionary on run.....before actual loading the os like the steps as
power on > visionary/turn into custom recov or custom boot like magldr is supposed to be> os?
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Have you contributed anything to the G2 root effort? Some of the best Android hackers are working to root this phone; in fact many of the same ones who came up with the method you posted in your first post.

im actually attempting but with any type of movement requires a brainstorming; so i was literally brainstorming outloud......i cant help if my ideas have been thought of you kno

There's a thinktank thread, it was posted there, it won't work.
Sent from my HDfied HTC Desire

Not trying to be rude, but present some facts. Try it out. Show us the code. Explain your findings. And present your idea in a clean, intelligent, organized manner. That means capital letters. That means punctuation. That means use the space bar.
I agree with, I'd say, ~90% of the other users here. All the useless crap in this forum is doing absolutely nothing towards getting actual development accomplished.
Mods: Please lock and/or delete this thread. Also, I apologize for wasting an entry in the SQL database. =P
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well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone

s0xpan said:
well i have an idea; ima pursue it the clockwork mod has been proven to not work so ima attempt ; ima get this working even though i dont have contact with too many devs working on this phone
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Haha good luck. People keep posting about what should be done yet have no idea what actually goes on to do any of this stuff. It isn't as simple as "making" it, you have to know HOW to make it. Please go to the think tank thread.

thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.

Look not to rain on ur parade buddy but in order to do that on the mts you first had to install the enginering img to the phone that allows unsigned packages. Now since we have a copy of the eng img for the g2 (we as in the devs not me) and the phone will not let you downgrade to it so therefore the mts way of loading a custom recovery won't work. I traded in my mts to get my g2.

androidcues said:
thinktank thread is good but the WIKI is even better. I just wish it was updated more often -- but anyway this thing has everything short of #g2root irc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Intro
READ THIS REALLY F*CKING CAREFULLY --- it is great reading. If you have ideas after reading it (i said read it dont glance it dont masturbate on it just read it as if it was your last will and testament) and then speak up.
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Wow, I didn't even know this existed. Thanks mate!
As for OP, post this in the thinktank thread. Why did you bother making your own thread? You only had an idea, which is what the other thread is for. If you had tried it out and had success, then it may be a different story.

Don't post stuff here unless you get permission

[Q] rooting, I really...

Hi, I have the desire, and well I'm board with it, I want to mess around with different roms like miui, gingerbread extra. But I don't understand, please could someone help me with some of my questions? Thank :
1) What are the chances of breaking it through rooting, and what could happen, and would should you do it it does happen?
2) what does bricked mean, and is there away of unbricking?
1) what do you do if a bad rom breaks?
1.5) what are the chances of things going wrong?
2) Can you have more than one rom installed at a time, and switch between them, a bit like you can with launchers, and uses the same apps and data on those roms?
2.5) Is unrevoked the best way to root?
3) I you can have more than one rom, can you have a gingerbread rom, side loaded with a froyo from?
4) How do you switch between the roms?
5)Does rooting affect battery life?
6) Using unrevoked, is there anyway to unroot?
7) where do you find roms, and does the rom manager in the market allow you to install them without flashing?
8)Is there a good htc sense hd or gingerbread rom that works well?
9) With different roms increase the speed of the device, like the n1 is faster than the desire, yet they have the same hardware?
I know that a lot of questions but i am really nervousness about this and I can't seem to find todate answerers to these questions. If someone could help me with these questions I would be very great full, as I want to get more our of my device. Thanks ( I know there are a lot of rooting threads, but I really need to find out as much as i can before I undergo this, I love my desire too much to allow it to break when there was something that i could have done)

There is a remote chance (0.00000001%) of anything going wrong as long as you follow the steps to the rooting process and S-Off. If you become bricked then there is a topic on how to unbrick.
Easiest and best way to root is to using unrevoked 3.32. Make sure you download the HBoot drivers from their website. After rooting, it is also good to make your device S-Off'd. Your able to flash HBoot templates to change partition sizes and also change the splash and remove system apps and so on.
You can only have 1 rom installed at a time. You have to flash roms as well, that's how you install them and other zip files through the recovery. If a rom breaks, you can just flash it again. Installing a rom takes 5 mins, if that really.
You find roms in the Android Dev section. You can use Rom Manager but you have to pay or something.
You can have a fast rom or a "slower" rom. It depends on how it's been built and stuff but also the kernel can help to speed things up. (Speed isn't always the answer). There is no best or crappiest rom either. It's best to test many out for yourself.
Battery life again depends on the rom and the kernel.
Things To Download
To root a device
To S-Off your device
Roms and alsort of other nice things
Hope this helps you out.

Thanks very much , but do you need to install "S-Off" as I don't quite understand what it does, and which one to download and how to install it. Thanks

You don't need to install S-Off after a root. S-Off just allows you to do more things like uninstall system apps, change the splash screen, change the HBoot (not quite sure what else). If your not going to be doing them sort of things then stay away from it.
When you root, the unrevoked utility roots it and changes the recovery to ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8. That recovery allows you to boot into it and install roms through it. It has a menu and you use your optical tracker to navigate through them. That is how you install different roms.
With the roms, you need to see which one you like. I've been through almost all of them and I have one I stick to now. I can't say which is the best, that's for you to decide. The Gingerbread roms are Android 2.3 and I THINK, emphasis on the THINK, that the rest of the roms are Android 2.2.
I think at first your like, oh what if I mess things up and stuff but you won't if you follow instructions. When I first did it, I completely messed up and couldn't even boot into a rom at all and was wondering how to sort it out. I got there in the end but still. I also forgot to mention, if you want the stock rom back, you can install one of the RUU's. It will wipe everything and you will have to root again, but you will have stock.

Thanks very much , when change roms will you lose all of your apps, and data?

Yes. When your changing roms, you have to erase all data. It is a must and everything will go, apps, user data including texts and contacts, EVERYTHING!!!.

Thanks so much for all your help, i'm going to do it now, and use cyanogen mod 7 or 6.x. Thanks again

No worries. If you get stuck, just message me or something.

Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b, it shouldn't be recommended to anyone who:
1. Doesn't know what it is
2. Doesn't actually need it
Concentrate on rooting and running a custom ROM first

Not actually true. When I S-Off'd my Desire, I didn't have a bloody clue, other than it disables all security, what it was. You eventually learn things like I did and read a little more. S-Off is a great tool to have on your phone because it gives you all the more freedom to do what ever you want with your device. I will say for all the "n00bs" out there that if you are S-Off'ing then please read it all carefully, unlike me because I could have messed it all up.

You were lucky - better to learn first, do second

I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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Thanks for all you help, I have rooted and now have a custom rom (cm 6.1). Thanks

EddyOS said:
Completely IGNORE S-OFF if you're a n00b
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I would add that if you're a n00b, don't even try to get your device rooted!

Lothaen said:
I saw recently a wiped imei which made me cautious
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I would ask if that's even possbile. Apparently it is.

Delete the efs storage without a backup... doh
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I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.

stringent said:
I had a stock Desire and wouldn't move from it. Then the niggles in the current build just annoyed me enough to actually go down the root route (see what I did there? )
So I rooted and after a few mishaps along the way (make backups of everything, phone and SD card, especially if you partition it!) I am very happy with my Ginger Villain ROM. A few things still niggle (Me avatar in texts blank, phone reboots randomly to name a few), but its not as bad as it used to be. I can live without Sense as well surprisingly enough.
I also did the same for a friend, and stuck them on LeeDroid 2.3d and as they are technically challenged, it works for them sweet as.
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Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far

GoogleJelly said:
Haha that made me laugh. As for your contact icon of yourself, you need to add yourself. Your own number and name and then you can add a picture. Yes it is annoying a little because Android natively doesn't have like a "contact card" for yourself.
Rooting and S-Off is the best thing I did by far
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bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'

Lothaen said:
bump creates a contact card for yourself...
right at the top of the phonebook called 'My Contact Card'
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Odd, I don't have that, I had it in the Sense UI, not on the stock Ginger Villain ROM, unless I am missing something ...

[Q] Advantages of Root?

I know this is a noob question, but what are the main advantages of rooting my phone? and what kinds of things can i do with a rooted phone?
I just upgraded to Gingerbread using the RUU , and i was thinking about using Gingerbreak

You see the development thread?
With root (+ENG & Radio S-OFF) you can do ALL (ROMs, Radio's, Kernels, RILs, Updates, Improve everything) that.
Without Root you can't do any of it.

sromer said:
I know this is a noob question, but what are the main advantages of rooting my phone? and what kinds of things can i do with a rooted phone?
I just upgraded to Gingerbread using the RUU , and i was thinking about using Gingerbreak
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WITH superuser permissions you can do a lot of things:
1-use apk´s that you can´t use without root access
2-flash roms
3-do s & eng - off for flash new basebands
4-flash new kernels and do overclock or underclock (for example,set up the speed of the processor)
5-change your screensplash, your boot animation, power off animation...
resumed: you have access to IMPROVE your device
you can do more things that i do not write...sure

Basically Root allows you to access all the underlying files, as administrator, on your phone, so what you can achieve is limited only by your skill not the software. IMHO the biggest reason for root is the ability to carry out a proper backup, after that the choice is yours.

Mr_JMM said:
You see the development thread?
With root (+ENG & Radio S-OFF) you can do ALL (ROMs, Radio's, Kernels, RILs, Updates, Improve everything) that.
Without Root you can't do any of it.
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do´h!!! sorry mate i duplicated the response LOL when i started to write the post your post still it was not written

Thanks, i needed to make sure it was what i thought it was.
After i run Gingerbreak i get the message
"not sure what happened here. Either the exploit failed or the reboot failed. Please reboot manually and see if you have SuperUser!"
Any suggestions?

sromer said:
Thanks, i needed to make sure it was what i thought it was.
After i run Gingerbreak i get the message
"not sure what happened here. Either the exploit failed or the reboot failed. Please reboot manually and see if you have SuperUser!"
Any suggestions?
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Are you following this guide in conjunction with this gingerbreak guide?

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Are you following THIS guide in conjunction with THIS GINGERBREAK guide?
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I ran it again before i saw you post that, and it just worked straight from 2.3.
But now i've got 5 superuser icons, any suggestions how to fix that?
And thats for all the help everyone

sromer said:
I know this is a noob question, but what are the main advantages of rooting my phone? and what kinds of things can i do with a rooted phone?
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Is there an official sticky for this question on XDA? Seems like many new users ask this.
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sromer said:
I ran it again before i saw you post that, and it just worked straight from 2.3.
But now i've got 5 superuser icons, any suggestions how to fix that?
And thats for all the help everyone
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Maybe a daft answer but it's true: It's a bit of a dirty hack and will often leave all manner of strangeness floating about. Once you get around to wiping everything and putting the ROM you want on (a reboot will probably solve it) then all will be well.
Whilst you're going through the process expect more of this.
Best guess for your particular example is just the retries without rebooting.

Nate2 said:
Is there an official sticky for this question on XDA? Seems like many new users ask this.
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Have to say I disagree about putting a sticky for that.
1. The site tries to limit the number of stickies.
2. Where would it go?
3. Who would look?
4. Who would find it?
5. The question has been asked and answered SOOOOO many times already that it would be easier to find one of those (search results are date ordered) than to find the sticky (trust me, I just tried).
(I've not asked the questions for answers by the way, I know the answers. Just there as a point.)

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Have to say I disagree about putting a sticky for that.
1. The site tries to limit the number of stickies.
2. Where would it go?
3. Who would look?
4. Who would find it?
5. The question has been asked and answered SOOOOO many times already that it would be easier to find one of those (search results are date ordered) than to find the sticky (trust me, I just tried).
(I've not asked the questions for answers by the way, I know the answers. Just there as a point.)
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If I knew the url to the sticky, I'd post that as a reply early in the thread. The sticky could contain a moderated list of advantages/disadvantages to rooting a device.
Sent from my unrooted DroidX using XDA App

Guess its again a n00b question, does rooting will brick the phone or void warranty...

Yes, you will void the warranty by rooting your phone and being bricked is something if you does not follow the procedures correctly.

[Q] there is noobs here we r not all devs !!! so take it easy on us

oh people come on i really appreciate all the work your doing here but your talking about flashing custom roms and unlooking boot loader !!! and stuff like that but the thing is i don't even know how to install a cutom roms and i'm sure there r many guys like me out there so please be easy on us so here what i want to know and i'm sure if you answered this topic it's gonna be a useful one
1-do we need to backup out things from phone memory and sd card before unlocking our phones using the new htc dev thing ? and if yes so how to make a full back up ?
2- we will do the unlock boot loader thing and there is a good tutorials out there
3- after unlocking the boot loader i think we have to do a complete wipe or some thing like that and then flash a cutom rom right ? so please tell us how to do that wipe thing and install a rom and which rom is the most stable one out there
4- can i go back to the old rom which is htc 2.3.5 if i didn't like that boot thing
5- with custom roms is it posible to install apps from the market ? and what are the deferences in general between the 2.3.5 official and any rom i will install after rooting ?
thank you for reading this post all, i'm asking for is an easy 1 2 3 .... complete guide for noobs

Well, problem is not you guys are new. Neither your lack of knowledge about the topics.
Mostly the problem is that people do not read and open new threads for topics already existing. I wrote 2 tutorials and I think I wrote them a way new users can understand.
Using a searching machine or forums search is no advanced topic. When I was new to it all, I spend like 2-3 days of reading and finding out myself.
So, look at our point of view: we write tutorials that are detailed and answer questions all about in the respective threads. We can't write a whole tutorial again for everyone not willing to read.
And to almost all questions, there already is an answer. And I think if you want to do stuff with your phone you should search and read. then you still can ask questions. But often people come here this way: Hi, I'm new, now tell me exactly what I have to do.

theq86 first of all i appreciate your time
but you can't judge me !!!! i spent 2 days reading and searching all i could find was people talking about new roms and stuff like that and expressions that i don't understand
and i tried to the search tool btw if u type noob you will find tons of suggestions with no match topics
so i'm not taking the easy way or any thing
and rather than complaining from my post you can point me to those threads your talking about for new comers it would have been nice of u

I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
Well, here we go:
1-do we need to backup out things from phone memory and sd card before unlocking our phones using the new htc dev thing ? and if yes so how to make a full back up ?
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Yes, I'd recommend that. You can backup all your PIM data (calendar, cntacts, messages) with MyPhoneExplorer. If you have synced everything with google you can restore it afterwards with a full sync. But I'd recommend MyPhoneExplorer, because you have your data on pc then.
During the process of unlocking the phone and all of it's data will be reset!
2- we will do the unlock boot loader thing and there is a good tutorials out there
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Here is my tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432199
Every step is explained. And also read the textx on htcdev to each step for getting detailed information.
3- after unlocking the boot loader i think we have to do a complete wipe or some thing like that and then flash a cutom rom right ? so please tell us how to do that wipe thing and install a rom and which rom is the most stable one out there
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When you flash a custom rom, be sure to wipe the cache partition, the dalvik-cache and the data partition. otherwise bootloops or malfunctions could appear. Wiping all these is very easy once you have a custom recovery tool.
4- can i go back to the old rom which is htc 2.3.5 if i didn't like that boot thing
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You can go back to stock rom. But this will not recover your warranty. You can even lock the bootloader again if you really wish. How to do so is stated in my bootloader unlock tutorial, too.
5- with custom roms is it posible to install apps from the market ? and what are the deferences in general between the 2.3.5 official and any rom i will install after rooting ?
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Yes, in case you use the cyanogenmod rom you will have to insall the google apps manually, but market is available on every rom.
The differences between stock rom are manifold:
themes and designs can differ
custom roms often include fixes and tweaks to improve device speed, stability and battery life.
Most roms are debloated. So never used apps are removed.

theq86 said:
I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
Well, here we go:
Yes, I'd recommend that. You can backup all your PIM data (calendar, cntacts, messages) with MyPhoneExplorer. If you have synced everything with google you can restore it afterwards with a full sync. But I'd recommend MyPhoneExplorer, because you have your data on pc then.
During the process of unlocking the phone and all of it's data will be reset!
Here is my tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432199
Every step is explained. And also read the textx on htcdev to each step for getting detailed information.
When you flash a custom rom, be sure to wipe the cache partition, the dalvik-cache and the data partition. otherwise bootloops or malfunctions could appear. Wiping all these is very easy once you have a custom recovery tool.
You can go back to stock rom. But this will not recover your warranty. You can even lock the bootloader again if you really wish. How to do so is stated in my bootloader unlock tutorial, too.
Yes, in case you use the cyanogenmod rom you will have to insall the google apps manually, but market is available on every rom.
The differences between stock rom are manifold:
themes and designs can differ
custom roms often include fixes and tweaks to improve device speed, stability and battery life.
Most roms are debloated. So never used apps are removed.
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thank you very much for your time i really appriciate it , but i still have some more questions
1- after unlocking my bootloader do i have to install a custom rom or can i keep using my current 2.3.5 i understand that it will be like starting from scratch
2- what is the clock recovery mod and where to find it and how to use it " in this question i'm using the easy way beacuse i know i'll find info about this thing if i searched the fourm but who want's to take the hard way thank's to you "
3- i've read some thing about adding an sd card partition to the phone memory or some thing like that please give me a full description about this thing and can i add this partition to my current stock rom after unlocking the bootloader with out installing a custom rom if it's possible ?

oh sorry i forgot 1 more question
people are saying that cyeanogen rom is the best but i keep reading that it's not an official realese and the radio and wirless and camera etc ... is not worknig but there is the 7.2 version i saw recntly on the dev section which is said to work perfectly so is it stable ? it it fast ? do you recomend me to use it ? i'm asking this question beacuse i noticed you r a cyanogen mod fan
and to install any rom of course i'll have to do these steps
1- flash the clock recovery mod which you will point me to how to use it
2- flash the custom rom and that's every thing
and to flash these things i but them on the root folder on my sd and disable the fasy boot option then turn of the phone and power t up holding the volume down button and it will do the magic am i right ?

Search on marketplace for clockwork mod - use it to boot to recovery mode - then, if you have a flashable zip rom stored in the root folder of your phone you can just flash the rom from there - best to backup and wipe first
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Scrapster said:
Search on marketplace for clockwork mod - use it to boot to recovery mode - then, if you have a flashable zip rom stored in the root folder of your phone you can just flash the rom from there - best to backup and wipe first
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Doesn't work without a little trickery on the Wildfire S
Let's not confuse the helpless who can type a lot better than he can read. Not short of words anyways...
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theq86 said:
I don't blame you in particular, I just give examples. So sorry if you understood it that way.
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Don't apologize to rude and demanding people.
I do blame him/her in particular. He/She (Probably a He-She) is rude and aggressive as a first method of asking what they need to know.
You know the old catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing...
Just a thought for your future correspondence.

Oops - must read better myself before rushing to help!
Thanks for pointing that out
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d33ps1x said:
Doesn't work without a little trickery on the Wildfire S
Let's not confuse the helpless who can type a lot better than he can read. Not short of words anyways...
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Don't apologize to rude and demanding people.
I do blame him/her in particular. He/She (Probably a He-She) is rude and aggressive as a first method of asking what they need to know.
You know the old catching more flies with honey than vinegar thing...
Just a thought for your future correspondence.
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Scrapster thank you very much
but still same question here who to wipe before flashing a custom rom ?
d33ps1x
you are the rude one here , you cant blame a decent guy as theq86 for not being as rude as you, and you can't blame a new comer like me for his lack of information
so if You Haven't Got Anything Good to Say, Please Shut Up

After reading through this thread and chuckling a little bit, I came to the conclusion that rooting may not be for you, iximedaixi. Not to be mean or anything. But the guides here are excellent. I'm just saying that it might be something for you to consider because the WFS makes an expensive paperweight.
Theq86, you are too kind.

CafeKampuchia said:
After reading through this thread and chuckling a little bit, I came to the conclusion that rooting may not be for you, iximedaixi. Not to be mean or anything. But the guides here are excellent. I'm just saying that it might be something for you to consider because the WFS makes an expensive paperweight.
Theq86, you are too kind.
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omg you people don't know how to be useful sooo my wfs is a beatiful paperwight " which is the dumpest expression i ever heard "
but i love my wfs
so same as your mate if you've got no thing useful to add please shut up

@iximedaixi I think you should to shut up
.... i really appreciate all the work your doing here.... or i spent 2 days looking for ...
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you wrote (or mayby I'm bad reader)
that's kind of funny, cause in my opinion you don't spent a minute to find what you're looking for and that's RUDE !!!
I've bought my WFS last friday, next day I've find out about Unlock, then quick visit here and since last weekend I've unlocked, rooted and OC phone
Just a little bit of good will

iximedaixi said:
omg you people don't know how to be useful sooo my wfs is a beatiful paperwight " which is the dumpest expression i ever heard "
but i love my wfs
so same as your mate if you've got no thing useful to add please shut up
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you are too arrogant and selfish, take a note that alreade few people in the few posts here said that to you.
Be kind and don't spam. Try to understand when you are false and "shut up"... that was not kind at all.
anyway - I hope your willingness not to gain knowledge will change!
almost everybody does when grow up
Regards
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one more thing, please read the forum rules:
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
for example

MindBurn010 said:
you are too arrogant and selfish, take a note that alreade few people in the few posts here said that to you.
Be kind and don't spam. Try to understand when you are false and "shut up"... that was not kind at all.
anyway - I hope your willingness not to gain knowledge will change!
almost everybody does when grow up
Regards
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one more thing, please read the forum rules:
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
for example
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Thank you guys for pointing me out to the right direction
though i still don't get it whether i'm wrong for being mean or not searching enough but trust me i'm not that bad i spent many time searching for a complete view for this rooting thing but i didn't find what i'm searching for so i started this post
but as i see every one is against me here so my sincere apologies goes to every one and my thanks too

iximedaixi said:
Thank you guys for pointing me out to the right direction
though i still don't get it whether i'm wrong for being mean or not searching enough but trust me i'm not that bad i spent many time searching for a complete view for this rooting thing but i didn't find what i'm searching for so i started this post
but as i see every one is against me here so my sincere apologies goes to every one and my thanks too
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My point is just do not be rude or arrogant and there are tons of people here willing to help. I cannot help you at this time cause i am out of time collecting the proper links for you but when you ask right as i said i am sure a lot of ppl will help.
also try to understand even a little our manner because of the spam threads here.
no bad feelings

MindBurn010 said:
My point is just do not be rude or arrogant and there are tons of people here willing to help. I cannot help you at this time cause i am out of time collecting the proper links for you but when you ask right as i said i am sure a lot of ppl will help.
also try to understand even a little our manner because of the spam threads here.
no bad feelings
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Yah and uh...sorry for calling you a He-She even though if you are that's totally cool and all. We're born who we are.

d33ps1x said:
Yah and uh...sorry for calling you a He-She even though if you are that's totally cool and all. We're born who we are.
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d33ps1x you are so funny
i like how this post is ending in dramatic way

iximedaixi said:
d33ps1x you are so funny
i like how this post is ending in dramatic way
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So, what happened with the rooting? Need more help?

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So, what happened with the rooting? Need more help?
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actually it's the exams season here in my country so i don't have much time to search the forum i guess i'll wait till the end of the exams and do it the hard way
but thank you anyway

Just unlocked bootloader (S-ON) Some help please

I would apreciate some help here as i got really confused.
I just unlocked my bootloader from HTCDev just to discover that I cannot install custom recovery, I cannot have root access and there are no recent custom ROMs to install (I need a stable one but recent, not older than mine - 2.3.5)
Could you help me by answering, what's the point of unlocking bootloader if I can't have the above?
I need to use sdcard for apps but for this, Root is required which is not able.
I need custom ROM (if there is one which is fine tuned with better performance, battery, and lighter)
I need to use apps that need root access, i.e titanium backup, etc. how can I use them without root?

So is this forum really dead? I remember it was more alive a few months ago.
I'm abandoning my efforts since I have to recover the phone back to normal use but it's a pitty that things are like that here.

First things first........as a senior member you should know well to post questions in the General section ONLY
Second..... if you have unlocked the bootloader correctly(i know you might have done that), root via Doomlord's easy root kit....
As far as the recovery is concerned...use Rom manager..... it's the easiest way
And the "aliveness" of the forum is quite well as compared to other fora...... the other mid-range phones may have more roms but a majority of them are PURE KITCHEN WORK while others have a little framework changes in CM7..... so there's no extra choice as compared to our phones.....
If you want good roms, mindhaxer/einstein.frat's(they both are the same) roms are good sense ones
Or you can try CM7 or CM9 if you are an AOSP fan
I hope this long post is the answer to all your points in your 2 posts

First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.

andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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If you need any help from here just let me know. I have already root on my phone and it's quite easy once you have all the steps in hand.

Cynabal said:
I agree with you I've been trying to figure out the rooting of this phone for the past two hours, I never bother posting for help as you always get scolded and people say duh use search which is really helpful.
I did I didn't find the answers. this forum is a bit of a mess tbh compared to the onex forum..
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I went from complete noob to unlocking, installing cwm and then a custom rom by doing a lot of reading in xda and other forums. The info is all there!
You expect to spend 2hrs reading and know how to root, you need to spend more time learning, and the more time time you spend the less chance of messing it up.
I spent a lot more than 2hrs and all went fine and I've never had a problem.
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andreasy said:
First of all, thanks for answering.
Second, even if I posted in Q&A, I don't believe I would get any different answers and,
third and most important, I have done my reasearch thoroughly but couldn't find this part you mentioned anywhere so I was trying to gain root with many other methods like super tool, etc. Now, if those guides are not stickies how could I possibly know where to find those steps? they were not even in the first 4-5 pages of the WFS forum.
Yes as a senior member I decided it would be wiser to post here in order to have better chances but maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, I have to thank you again because you guided me to find the DooMLoRD package which wasn't mentioned anywhere else and now in a few minutes I managed to root the phone which I abandoned a few hours ago.
I still insist though that this info must be gathered here as sticky otherwise new comers will always be confused and need years to manage something which in other forums is managed in minutes.
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Its not about getting an answer to your question. Its about keeping this section clutter free. Its the development section for a reason, and I'm mighty sure I'm not seeing a custom ROM in this thread.
So follow the rules and post in General or Q&A next time.
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Ok I see. Now I have 2 options: reply or shut up and leave. I'll do both.
Firstly I apologise for intentionally posting in the wrong thread (I had my reasons). I won't do it again, actually I won't post anything here again as that was a one time task for me.
Second, I see that you are ready and willing to give me lessons and increase your thanks meter between each other but before teaching me how much time of reading is necessary before you root, let me tell you that I was in xda long before you and I know very well both how much reading is necessary but I also know what the spirit of a community is. There are mods here who didn't get irritated as fast as you. From the speed of your answers I recognise that you must not be older than 25 which doesn't make you mature so @scott_doyland, your opinion is accepted but I was a noob on 2005 and I have performed the root procedure on more than 6-7 phones just by reading so I've done my homework plenty of times and you know what? You don't need 2 hours to root a phone. Actually I need about 30 minutes max including the reading I do on the instructions of each phone. Only on this forum I didn't find all the info gathered and before you jump answering on that, I'm not complaining about this but that's the reason I posted in order to get an answer and avoid the research of 200 pages. It's you guys that got inflamed about that. So take a lesson from a veteran who broke the rules. The idea of the community is to help each other even if the answer was given several times. Some people may not have the time to read or maybe they have read tons of info on other forums and they are visitors like me and can't spent the same amount of time in all forums for each phone they have to root. I'm adraid that if you can't accept this, you are also breaking the rules. Do you see my thanks meter? well, not even one of those thanks was taken from posts like yours. Every single thanks I got was from help providing to noobs and to people who didn't do their homework. Maybe you should visit some forums in the DHD section and see what the spirit of community is all about.
I'm sorry for disturbing the calm waters of your forum but you won't see me again anyway. As I said, I spent many hours on other forums of xda, that was a one time stop for me because I had to root this phone and leave and since this forum doesn't have the most friendly structure in regards to info availability (stickies, etc.) I had to ask. I apologised for posting in wrong thread but I also had to pass the message that people willing to become teachers will have to become students, that's why I answered
Now, go ahead, feel free to start attacking and exchanging thanks between each other. You see, I contributed to your community in my own way. Many of you will double their thanks meters by tomorrow. I don't have the time to continue discussion, I have other things to do so, mods, please feel free and delete this post at some point since it doesn't lead anywhere but just take my feedback if you want and organise better the structure of your forum (if you want).

Ok bro. I have a S-ON, Unlocked Bootloader just like you. There are no way to root after u unlocked bootloader (because u need to update to lastest Hboot in order to UBL). I'd tried all tools i can find on xda and NONE of them can be use to root. There also don't have any clear guide for S-ON with UBL show how to install custom rom and get root.
But after few days digging up the forum, i'd managed to install custom rom + root. I share with you:
After your phone bootloader unlocked via HTCdev, your phone sure will have either HBOOT-1.08.0099 or HBOOT-1.09.0099. You'll need a ClockworkMod recovery image on your computer to install rom + root. And you'll need a working Android SDK with Fastboot to do get ClockworkMod working on ur S-ON phone.
OK let's say now you have fastboot folder alr, and know how to use it.
1. Download lastest clockwork mod .img here: http://www.clockworkmod.com/rommanager
2. put the file .img just downloaded to the fastboot folder.
3. Turn off phone, then hold volume down + power ---> wait the menu searching for the zip file (of course we ignore this) then press Power again to go to fastboot menu.
4. connect phone to laptop via usb cable.
5. Open fastboot folder, right click choose open command windows here.
5a. If you are on HBOOT-1.08.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
5b. If you are on HBOOT-1.09.0099:
Copy this and right click to the command windows, paste then enter, ur phone will automatic restart to CWM menu:
Code:
fastboot -c "mtdparts=msm_nand:[email protected](misc),[email protected](recovery),[email protected](boot),[email protected](system),[email protected](cache),[email protected](userdata),[email protected](devlog),[email protected](hboot)" boot recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.8-marvel.img
Ok men, now u just download any rom u like, put it to ur memory card and flash rom like normal.
Remember that, everytime u flash new rom, u need to repeat the whole process from step 3 to step 5.
Hope this can help you bro. Cheers for our S-ON
BIG THANKS to this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374926
Dear guy, your topic not yet help me to S-OFF my phone, but it gave me the temporary solution to install custom rom. Cheers to ur good work!!!
P/S: to the thread creator: Why u gave up so early bro...Xda-developers is great forum.

Ok, because many people are confused and PM me about what's next after unlock, here's the answer. Don't try the Super Tool, it doesn't work. At least for some people.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
and use that script instead. It will flash Busybox and su to your phone. That's it. You have root acces then.
@Ghekua: If you have unlocked your bootloader then you have already installed the apropriate HBOOT. Just run that script from the post I attached above and you will have root access.
Edit: Oh, sorry, I read your post before edit and got different meaning. Anyway, thanks, I used the post above which is much faster and easier and I'm done.

Ghekua, if you install a custom rom it will already have root access, no need to root a custom rom.
I rooted my stock rom just by flashing cwm and then via cwm flashed a root.zip file from xda.
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i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.

ghekua said:
i know it bro haha. I just post the post there. But i wonder if there is any chance to keep the CWM for S-On so everytime we flash a new rom, we no need to flash CWM again.
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Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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...this is why people keep asking questions here. Please stop responding to these. Pleaseee?
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scott_doyland said:
Flashing a new rom does not wipe cwm.
Cwm is always there unless you flash a different 'recovery'.
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it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)

I find downloading alquez's recovery and replacing the android_info file with the last RUU/update [of same], then flashing via hboot to be the simplest solution [since it works on marvel & marvelc].. I just keep that PG76IMG.zip on my sdcard and swapout android_info as needed [no need to sign or anything]. Of course then if you wanted latest-and-greatest [gsm] you'd root [Heritz guide works across board gsm & cdma], install your Rom Manager and reflash. But I like simple solution that works on both my wildfire s's
I do agree this is a general topic and if anyone has read my simplistic thread responses, I've stated above philosophy repeatedly in various threads.. and it seems to always work
Rob
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ghekua said:
it's true for S-OFF bro. For S-On every time flash new rom need to fastboot to flash cwm again.
(i'd tried to install cwm by rom manager app, by flashable zip downloaded from clockworkmod website, no use)
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How strange. I'm s-on and I never have to reflash CWM. I've only ever flashed it twice and the second time was just to upgrade to a later CWM.
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