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USB Port broken - Stuck in boot screen

Here we go:
When I recharged my HTC in my car, I got in a little accident and the HTC flew around the car a little bit.
Long story short; the USB/Charge port broke and I got it fixed by a friend.
Took him a few days because it was totally messed up, but hey, I could recharge it.
He said he couldn't fix the USB connection, but no problem: I still had bluetooth.
However, yesterday I got really stupid...
I tried to flash the rom using my bluetooth connection.
All went fine, but ofcourse, when rebooting it got stuck.
Tried the soft reset, tried the hard reset, but no luck.
Of course I also tried all available tools (mtty) but damn, stupid me again, that won't work since the USB connection won't work; my PC doesn't even detect that there is a device connected.
So here's my question:
Is there a way to get the HTC out of bootloader menu without the use of the USB port?
As I am afraid there isn't a way, does anyone have a layout/schematic of the HTC Universal hardware layout so I can try to fix the USB connection myself?
The friend that fixed it last time moved, so I'll have to try it myself .

here is a link to the HTC Universal service manual, maybe you can find some help there.

leffetripel said:
here is a link to the HTC Universal service manual, maybe you can find some help there.
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Couldn't find the USB-connector anywhere in the service manual...
Yeah okay, it showed the port itself, but not where it's connected on the motherboard.
Anyone really technical who can point it out?
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martinbl said:
Couldn't find the USB-connector anywhere in the service manual...
Yeah okay, it showed the port itself, but not where it's connected on the motherboard.
Anyone really technical who can point it out?
http://xs227.xs.to/xs227/08201/usb309.jpg
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No one? :'(

i have a working motherboard, that i can sell. If you cant fix the usb connector. pm me if interested

So here's my question:
Is there a way to get the HTC out of bootloader menu without the use of the USB port?
As I am afraid there isn't a way, does anyone have a layout/schematic of the HTC Universal hardware layout so I can try to fix the USB connection myself?
The friend that fixed it last time moved, so I'll have to try it myself .[/quote]
There is one way to flash it from the SD card, look in the forum or in WIKI for more information. Here you can find picture ( as well broken mini USB) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381560

Bulldog said:
There is one way to flash it from the SD card, look in the forum or in WIKI for more information.
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I can't find it anywhere?
Only SD flashing for other models... Or am I just ain't looking right?

martinbl said:
I can't find it anywhere?
Only SD flashing for other models... Or am I just ain't looking right?
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This one may can help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393370

My USB port broken also.
My USB port pulled out also. I did find my connector, even though I purchased a replacement USB off eBay. My eyes are not good enough to resolder, and am not sure what is on the other side of board that may be effected should I try. I just downloaded the PDF file ya'all listed, so now I will check it out in depth. I would prefer having a professional fix this, but here in Memphis Tn USA I have had better luck finding polar bears. I recently got this unit so I know nothing! I do realize that it probably needs to be upgraded from WM5 to WM6. I have also noticed that replacement mother boards are available also on eBay. I just purchased an used JasJar with good mother board but broken screen thinking about using it for parts to fix mine.
Hugh (toolmanfedex)

Hey
My USB port broke off, and I lost it... I dropped the phone out of my motorcycle tankbag (since it opens on the "bottom" end) the impact was severe enough that the case fell appart and speakers popped out, all the wires intact, I put it back together but the port is lost... it still works of course but my battery ran out, can't charge it without the usb port.
Anyway, I see it's delicate but not that delicate, i want to solder a new one on myself what I have to do is find one and here is my question:
Which type/sort of ports work, do I need an htc-universal specific one or is it standard and just any of the correct size where contacts overlap, is good enough?
If the answer is standard I'll get'em at the nearest electronic store, if not, where to get'em? used off ebay or some useful links any of you may have handy?
Thanks in advance,
ciao

JasJar Replacement USB Connector
This is where I got a replacement USB port for my JasJar: eBay
http://stores.ebay.com/Wincom-International
HTC Wizard IMATE JASJAR 838 D900 charge port connector
eBay Item number: 310010162549
Price: US $4.99 Shipping to USA: $5.99
Hugh

The connector you want is a "USB-to-go" or a "USB Mini-AB" SMT Scoket any good electronics component retailer should have them. The big question is have you damaged the pads on the motherboard?

oi, thanks mates, I checked that retailer out, found a local retailer with these components, if it's a standard one, it should work, I'll try to see if it works before soldering (using some duct tape or something I guess).
I'm pretty sure I haven't damaged the pads on the motherboard, the thing just "gently" broke off (as gentle as you can imagine a break can be). How would damage look like? They look intact really... and it's a big enough patch that I feel confident soldering on.
I ordered one of these connectors and should be here tomorrow. Thanks again for info.
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well apparently not... only A or B in stock, but not the -AB in all the local retailers, guess I'll grab it from the ebay one Thanks for that info too again.

Now then, several months later, my usb socket broke off again.
I really lost trust in my universal, it feels just... touchy, like it's a human baby, that's how I act when I carry it around and don't like it. Since I don't want my mobile device to be such a "burden" really I'm thinking about replacing it.
I'm not an elec-technician, in fact I've soldered a few things in my life, but this one, I somehow did, I didn't have fine enough tools so some of the contacts got spilled and interconnected and I peeled off the links with a boxcutter knife later. It was a few-hour endeavour. Yeah crude and barbaric but in the end, I managed that without damaging the motherboard. It worked, active syncinc, everything, but I felt it wasn't really stable. Since I don't have an external battery charger, my uni is sadly out of order now.
I have a question:
How to solder this thing back on properly?
And when done so, how sturdy is it? Sturdy enough?
Thanks, regards

The USB connector is a pain to solder as you need a big tip to solder to the big pads that hold it in place and a small tip to solder the actual USB data pins. If it is done correctly it can out last the Uni. I can repair it for you if you like, it wont be the first and I'm sure it wont be the last. PM me if you are intrested.

DONT try to resoldere it urself, u need skill and especially a proper LOW WATT soldering tool!! its also easy tofuck it up, permanently.
i'm not sure if u can find electronic guys willing to do this ( cause its a small job for them), but ur best bet would be to visit the local guy who does PS2/XBOX/GAMECUBE modchip iinstalls...he'll solder ur usb port in 2 minutes.

Just to let you know I've been a electroinc engineer for 15+ years this sort of thing is my bread and butter. If you want to see the standard I work too check out the 128Mb Upgrade page thats my work and the kind of equipment I have.
But I agree with Starik do try it yourself unless your are skilled at soldering and have the right tools.

[Q] Help identifying power-button (on the mobo) part.

Been having power button issues:
Power button does not work at all, not even when booted to recovery. I believe it is shorted/stuck on because the device CANNOT be powered off. As soon as the battery touches the device, BOOT.
So.. i pulled the case and took a look inside:
All the soldering looks fine but i assume its an internal mechanical issue. If anyone could help me identify this button on mouser etc, i would greatly appreciate it.
I am familiar with small package SMD soldering; however any tips as far as temperature and solder time for something this sensitive would be awesome.
Or a schematic? Any idea if one is leaked?
(that button) Not the plastic part!
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vassskk said:
Been having power button issues, power button does not work at all, not even when booted to recovery. I believe it is shorted/stuck on because the device CANNOT be powered off. As soon as the battery touches the device, BOOT.
So.. i pulled the case and took a look inside:
All the soldering looks fine but i assume its an internal mechanical issue. If anyone could help me identify this button on mouser etc, i would greatly appreciate it.
I am familiar with small package SMD soldering; however any tips as far as temperature and solder time for something this sensitive would be awesome.
Or a schematic? Any idea if one is leaked?
(that)
i53.tinypic.com/dc51zl.jpg
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The only thing close to a schematic I've ever seen for that are the FCC approval photos.

Hmm, ok i will take a look at those. I am really just hoping to find an equivalent part to swap out. May end up just taking measurements and scan through mouser for a few hours.

vassskk said:
Hmm, ok i will take a look at those. I am really just hoping to find an equivalent part to swap out. May end up just taking measurements and scan through mouser for a few hours.
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Have you looked here?
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-incredible-droid-power-button-replacement.html
For $15, you get the part, pry tool and instructional video.

spence341 said:
Have you looked here?
repairsuniverse.com/htc-incredible-droid-power-button-replacement.html
For $15, you get the part, pry tool and instructional video.
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unfortunately, that is the plastic button extender part. I am looking for the actual electronic button soldered to the motherboard.
Thanks for trying though!

fixed the photo **

spence341 said:
Have you looked here?
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/htc-incredible-droid-power-button-replacement.html
For $15, you get the part, pry tool and instructional video.
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This site is where I got myne. I deff reccomend it.

Hitmanthe3rd said:
This site is where I got myne. I deff reccomend it.
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Again..... i dont need the plastic part, i need the electronic component.

Check for continuity between the 2 solder contacts with a DMM

m52 power! said:
Check for continuity between the 2 solder contacts with a DMM
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Will do, thank you.

Having similar problems with mine. Still works normal but have to push down pretty hard to bring up power menu as well as waking the device. Wasn't untilled I opened it up that I realized it was the actual button on the board that is bad.
Good luck and please keep us updated with your repair.
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GooTz66 said:
Having similar problems with mine. Still works normal but have to push down pretty hard to bring up power menu as well as waking the device. Wasn't untilled I opened it up that I realized it was the actual button on the board that is bad.
Good luck and please keep us updated with your repair.
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Will do,
I can do a walk-through for the repair process as-well if its actually useful.

m52 power! said:
Check for continuity between the 2 solder contacts with a DMM
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DMM'd all 5 pins with all 5 pins both while pressing the button and not.
Connectivity on all.
Time for part searching..

-Win-
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=P12279SCT-ND

Ordered a couple extra buttons.
If it turns out to be a good fit, ill fix 3 phones.

^Gotta love Digikey... tons of components.
That almost doesn't look like the right part though in the digikey pictures. Looks like it has 4 pins instead of 5.
Check out the data sheet for the P7C: http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ATK0000/ATK0000CE20.pdf
Only shows 4 pins?

carngeX said:
^Gotta love Digikey... tons of components.
That almost doesn't look like the right part though in the digikey pictures. Looks like it has 4 pins instead of 5.
Check out the data sheet for the P7C: http://industrial.panasonic.com/www-data/pdf/ATK0000/ATK0000CE20.pdf
Only shows 4 pins?
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Ha yea; i was surprised mouser didn't even have anything close.
It definitely just has 4 pins, i believe the 5th is just for mounting/was just soldered to the case. After going through thousands of these 'tactile switches', none of them had 5 pins.
AND: if you look at the techresourse teardown, their mobo revision doenst even have the 5th pin...or the ground wire from the silver box to the switch casing.

Glad to see progress is being made. I hope the repair works. Please if all goes well and works can you make a detailed step by step including all tools needed for the job? That would be awesome.
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GooTz66 said:
Glad to see progress is being made. I hope the repair works. Please if all goes well and works can you make a detailed step by step including all tools needed for the job? That would be awesome.
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^sure!! For some thnx meter of course

vassskk said:
Ha yea; i was surprised mouser didn't even have anything close.
It definitely just has 4 pins, i believe the 5th is just for mounting/was just soldered to the case. After going through thousands of these 'tactile switches', none of them had 5 pins.
AND: if you look at the techresourse teardown, their mobo revision doenst even have the 5th pin...or the ground wire from the silver box to the switch casing.
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Ah ok. That's what I was thinking too that it was probably just a mount, but wasn't sure if it was a ground pin afterall or not.
Just figured I would point it out just in case so you would still have time to cancel the order if needed, but nevermind .
And yeah, a guide would be nice if somebody needed it in the future .

Missing the micro sd card? Check this out!

If you're getting this phone or thinking about it and have doubts because of no sd slot this is the answer. Support these guys and get your micro sd card back!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta
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IMO, this is definitely cool but more novelty than useful. I haven't rooted my GNote 10.1 yet but I have noticed that I cannot move my apps to the SD card. Since both this and my One will be on Jelly Bean, I suspect to encounter the same roadblock. Maybe I'm a minimalist and don't really recognize it, but I don't like the idea of having to add that to my keyring.
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I see its usefulness in loading up an SD card with a couple movies or tv shows - watching them and then replacing them with others. Keeps the content off the device and can load up to 64gb of content without touching the phones storage. pretty neat!

I like it because I have over half of my 64gb card filled with music and even though I do have it uploaded to Google music I use neutron to play it and right now there's no way to stream it to neutron
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There was already thread on this in general section. Few of us have contributed so should get it in July.

Just contributed. I like to do my TiBu backups to SDcard among other things.

DiggerG said:
Just contributed. I like to do my TiBu backups to SDcard among other things.
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Cool, reached the second stretch goal.

OK10 said:
cool, it is useful. because i have the same question
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Sure.

I hope one of the big boys electronic companies don't steal his ideas. I'm sure they can have a similar product out in two seconds flat.
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What similar product?
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Just backed $12 is not a bad price including delivery

fazzxx said:
Just backed $12 is not a bad price including delivery
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Same here just backed them up since I bought my HTC One 2 days ago. With 32GB the phone should have enough for everything and then when I want to watch some videos I can just plug in my Microsdcard 32GB from my old Captivate Glide and have access to all my Videos. I must say I really like the idea.

I really don't like it. It looks atrocious and leaves itself open to be broken very easily. Why can't they just make a smaller connection and have a cable that wrap around to the back of the device which then connects to what we already have available in flash drives?
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This is a really rough sketch, but what you have here is the smallest connection possible (Very little sticks out) and a flat cable then wraps around to the other side of the device to the the actual flash memory module or whatever. It could be anything like a card reader or even what is found on the inside of a flash drive. (Which is already really small) The housing containing this could have an adhesive side so it can stick to the device. There are adhesives that basically don't lose their stickiness so you can remove it when you're done and reattach it when you want to.

tkoreaper said:
I really don't like it. It looks atrocious and leaves itself open to be broken very easily. Why can't they just make a smaller connection and have a cable that wrap around to the back of the device which then connects to what we already have available in flash drives?
This is a really rough sketch, but what you have here is the smallest connection possible (Very little sticks out) and a flat cable then wraps around to the other side of the device to the the actual flash memory module or whatever. It could be anything like a card reader or even what is found on the inside of a flash drive. (Which is already really small) The housing containing this could have an adhesive side so it can stick to the device. There are adhesives that basically don't lose their stickiness so you can remove it when you're done and reattach it when you want to.
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You do realize you can buy the device then simply use a cable extension to place it on the rear. If the cable does not exist you can simply make an extension yourself or simply use adapters to get the required connections needed.

very nice idea

tkoreaper said:
I really don't like it. It looks atrocious and leaves itself open to be broken very easily. Why can't they just make a smaller connection and have a cable that wrap around to the back of the device which then connects to what we already have available in flash drives?
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Even if that were physically possible, the phone will power the OTG card reader for as long as it's plugged in. Not only would your phone never go into deep sleep, it would keep the 5V boost converter turned on indefinitely. The battery life on that setup would suck.
The product being Kickstarted seems to be meant for swapping files into/out of onboard flash or being actively used (watching movies, torrenting from public wifi, etc)

pokey9000 said:
Even if that were physically possible, the phone will power the OTG card reader for as long as it's plugged in. Not only would your phone never go into deep sleep, it would keep the 5V boost converter turned on indefinitely. The battery life on that setup would suck.
The product being Kickstarted seems to be meant for swapping files into/out of onboard flash or being actively used (watching movies, torrenting from public wifi, etc)
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I don't know where I went wrong, but you're confused about my idea. It is essentially the SAME THING as the kickstarter device... Only difference is the way it looks. Instead of plugging in a device which then hangs directly out of the port you have something that sticks out only a faction of the other device which then sticks on the backside of the device... It is out of your way and less likely to get damaged.

tkoreaper said:
I don't know where I went wrong, but you're confused about my idea. It is essentially the SAME THING as the kickstarter device... Only difference is the way it looks. Instead of plugging in a device which then hangs directly out of the port you have something that sticks out only a faction of the other device which then sticks on the backside of the device... It is out of your way and less likely to get damaged.
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Of course it's just like the Kickstarter device. You wouldn't want to leave it plugged in all the time either.

pokey9000 said:
Of course it's just like the Kickstarter device. You wouldn't want to leave it plugged in all the time either.
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I'm aware, but I'm confused why it was even mentioned. Nothing I said insinuated that that device was going to be there semi-permanently. The only thing the market offers now is either a dongle or a device like this kickstarter one. The KS device is moving in the right direction, but having a device protrude out of a fragile connection bothers me. My idea helps to fix this issue.

tkoreaper said:
I'm aware, but I'm confused why it was even mentioned. Nothing I said insinuated that that device was going to be there semi-permanently. The only thing the market offers now is either a dongle or a device like this kickstarter one. The KS device is moving in the right direction, but having a device protrude out of a fragile connection bothers me. My idea helps to fix this issue.
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Then you should go make one and create a project on Kickstarter!
Personally, I like the accessibility of this device. It works much like a current USB flash drive. Plug in to xfer files and then remove.
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Bluetooth connection while in bootloader

As you might know, the bootloader of both the LG G Watch and the Samsung Gear Live can be unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...nlock-the-bootloader-and-root-the-lg-g-watch/
This is necessary (at least for now) to root the watch an there is even already a first custom rom for the G Watch out there.
However, this requires a direct USB connection to the Android Wear device.
The Moto 360's specs are still unknown, but the device won't have any kind of wired connection.
Is it (theoretically) possible to set up a ADB connection to a Android Wear device over Bluetooth while in bootloader?

i was wondering the same the other day
ADB without physical connections? o_0

Not sure if this would work, but have a look at this :
https://developer.android.com/training/wearables/apps/bt-debugging.html

adicool said:
Not sure if this would work, but have a look at this :
https://developer.android.com/training/wearables/apps/bt-debugging.html
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thanks adicool, but from what I'v read so far that should only get you ADB access while in Android
You can reboot into Fastboot from there, but once in Fastboot the watches seem to lose the Bluetooth connection and you have to use the USB connection through the charging cradle - which is not possible in case of the Moto due to wireless charging

2k4ever said:
thanks adicool, but from what I'v read so far that should only get you ADB access while in Android
You can reboot into Fastboot from there, but once in Fastboot the watches seem to lose the Bluetooth connection and you have to use the USB connection through the charging cradle - which is not possible in case of the Moto due to wireless charging
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Ooh ya, didn't think of that one ! I hope we somehow get access to bluetooth in the boot loader. Hopefully we will know more tomorrow after the official announcement of the Moto 360

adicool said:
Ooh ya, didn't think of that one ! I hope we somehow get access to bluetooth in the boot loader. Hopefully we will know more tomorrow after the official announcement of the Moto 360
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This is scary. I may have to wait before buying it to make sure we will be able to mod it. What if it only does OTA updates through the phone? We may never get a custom recovery/rom [emoji33]

I wonder if the cradle can conductivly transfer data

kornklown69 said:
I wonder if the cradle can conductivly transfer data
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Doesn't it have WiFi too? What's up with that?

slaydog said:
Doesn't it have WiFi too? What's up with that?
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i figured it had to do with the new updates allowing you to use your watch away from your phone

Any news from happy owners? Does it even have fastboot mode?

https://motorola-global-portal.cust...iUzQ4ODJHMW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJ0Qm02MUcxbSJ9
"If you have pressed the power button for 15-20 seconds, and the watch has vibrated twice your Moto 360 will launch into Bootloader mode.
Simply press the Power key to exit Bootloader mode and power up the Moto 360 as usual."
I guess there are similar pins like on the gwatch and Samsung gear live but they are hidden behind the end of the watch band and you have to make a custom USB connector.
See these pics:
https://moto360.motorola.com/images/watch/core.png
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...a-moto-360-behind-the-scenes-sg-1-820x420.jpg the circuit board is rotated. The button should be on the right side which move the contacts to the back.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...CI/AAAAAAAADtI/07T69EVXrR4/w634-h845-no/4+-+7

brotbuexe said:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...iUzQ4ODJHMW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJ0Qm02MUcxbSJ9
"If you have pressed the power button for 15-20 seconds, and the watch has vibrated twice your Moto 360 will launch into Bootloader mode.
Simply press the Power key to exit Bootloader mode and power up the Moto 360 as usual."
I guess there are similar pins like on the gwatch and Samsung gear live but they are hidden behind the end of the watch band and you have to make a custom USB connector.
See these pics:
https://moto360.motorola.com/images/watch/core.png
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content...a-moto-360-behind-the-scenes-sg-1-820x420.jpg the circuit board is rotated. The button should be on the right side which move the contacts to the back.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-...CI/AAAAAAAADtI/07T69EVXrR4/w634-h845-no/4+-+7
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Just took off my watch band, no pins. Also bootloader tells you to connect a USB cord, so no bluetooth.

fodawim said:
Just took off my watch band, no pins. Also bootloader tells you to connect a USB cord, so no bluetooth.
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Looks like it's under the FCC approval sticker (if that's actually a sticker). I'm basing this off of the iFixit teardown.

schnabel45 said:
Looks like it's under the FCC approval sticker (if that's actually a sticker). I'm basing this off of the iFixit teardown.
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Yep, just saw that. Will try again in a little bit to get a USB connection working.

fodawim said:
Yep, just saw that. Will try again in a little bit to get a USB connection working.
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Be careful. EVEN iFixit broke the plastic cap on the back of the watch. There is quite a lot of double-sided tape. You break that and watertight/dusttight operation goes out the window.

daijizai said:
Be careful. EVEN iFixit broke the plastic cap on the back of the watch. There is quite a lot of double-sided tape. You break that and watertight/dusttight operation goes out the window.
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I would hope he can peel off a sticker without cracking the back casing. Looks like it just needs some small pogo pins and it will work great. Peeling the sticker off does likely remove the water and dust protection though.

Any news?
Have any of you guys got anything working?

AndroidAndroid88 said:
Have any of you guys got anything working?
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I've been wondering the same thing. I have been tempted to try it myself but I would be stabbing blindly at it. Someone has to more knowledge to guide them than i do.

So I took it upon myself, turns out if you use a razor blade you can keep the FCC sticker in good condition, but since it exposes holes I would say bye bye IP67...
Band removes easily (use a tiny screwdriver to avoid damage):
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You can see the FCC has that tell-tale waviness of a sticker:
Be careful, a razor blade slips in easily:
Sticker removed (you can see I slipped and creased it while removing):
Can't see anything?
How about now
I'm in the process of trying to bend a 5p connector to fit the really tight pin spacing they use...

v3ngence said:
So I took it upon myself, turns out if you use a razor blade you can keep the FCC sticker in good condition, but since it exposes holes I would say bye bye IP67...
I'm in the process of trying to bend a 5p connector to fit the really tight pin spacing they use...
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Well done! Stop by the #moto360 IRC channel if you'd like to chat about this. http://webchat.freenode.net/

How to make a interface usb cable for the Moto 360 for fastboot commands

http://www.rootjunky.com/moto-360-adapter-usb-cable/
VIDEO HERE WITH FULL WALKTHROUGH
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http://www.rootjunky.com/moto-360-adapter-usb-cable/
VIDEO HERE WITH FULL WALKTHROUGH
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added video to the post

Someone start selling these yet?

I'm having trouble getting mine to connect. Have to run to radio shack for an ohm meter in the morning.

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I'm having trouble getting mine to connect. Have to run to radio shack for an ohm meter in the morning.
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good luck also you may have to push downon the device while it is on the cable or also try stripping the red and black wires

Anyone else having issues getting this to recognize on their PC? I have one made, but when I connect, it shows up as "unknown device". I've tried the Universal Drivers, Samsung Drivers, and Motorola Drivers. Nothing seems to work right to connect to fastboot. Could it be possible that I have one of my D+ or D- cable criss-crossed?

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Anyone else having issues getting this to recognize on their PC? I have one made, but when I connect, it shows up as "unknown device". I've tried the Universal Drivers, Samsung Drivers, and Motorola Drivers. Nothing seems to work right to connect to fastboot. Could it be possible that I have one of my D+ or D- cable criss-crossed?
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I had the same issue, I think our connectors just aren't making good enough contact.
The moment usb connects it sends commands back and forth so if the contacts bounce when you make contact windows thinks the wire is broken and says error...

v3ngence said:
I had the same issue, I think our connectors just aren't making good enough contact.
The moment usb connects it sends commands back and forth so if the contacts bounce when you make contact windows thinks the wire is broken and says error...
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I'm not even getting an error though. It just tells me that the "Unknown Device" installed properly.

Made this cable from another type of Ethernet jack which does not require the drilling... But I don't want to peel my sticker unless there is a compelling reason to unlock the BL.

Sweet, game on!

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I'm having trouble getting mine to connect. Have to run to radio shack for an ohm meter in the morning.
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Well, i picked up a multi meter from Walmart and quickly discovered that my jig had continuity so after a little investigating it seemed that the USB ports on the computer weren't responding, tho that was easily fixed with a restart.
Great news!..... Except for the fact that i can't for the life of me get a good enough connection to the watch to even get the drivers installed, let alone run some commands in fastboot.
Hampered by a migraine headache i gave up for the night and I'll give it another go in the morning.

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Made this cable from another type of Ethernet jack which does not require the drilling... But I don't want to peel my sticker unless there is a compelling reason to unlock the BL.
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Which did you use? I rather not drill if I don't have to since I will probably screw it up.

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Which did you use? I rather not drill if I don't have to since I will probably screw it up.
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I used one that I purchased from Lowes a while ago so I already had it laying around. It is On-Q LegrandRJ45 Data/Phone Jack, here is a link:
http://www.legrand.us/onq/structured-wiring/preconfigured/inserts/wp3460-wh.aspx
After you separate the the two halves of the jack (This was the hardest part) you can slide the front plastic part off and it leaves you with your punchdown back piece and the brass leads sticking straight out so you can just bend them as needed and hook up your wires.
I should have taken pics but I ended up sealing everything up with a nice wrapping after I made sure it was working.
PROTIP: after you assemble the cable use your tester again to make sure each lead in the usb plug is reaching the exposed connectors (I also had trouble with my white and black wires and had to strip them before connecting them)

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I'm not even getting an error though. It just tells me that the "Unknown Device" installed properly.
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I had the same problem until I installed these drivers and then connected the Moto 360 via USB: https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/89881/action/auth

jermaine151 said:
I had the same problem until I installed these drivers and then connected the Moto 360 via USB: https://motorola-mobility-en-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/89881/action/auth
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I am trying this out as soon as I get home. You're my hero if this works.

trevorftard said:
I am trying this out as soon as I get home. You're my hero if this works.
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I hope it works for you!
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I hope it works for you!
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As I had feared, these were the drivers I had been using. What else could I do?

*BUMP* Any solution to the unknown device found.

In the video, was mentioned that someone may be making the usb connector and have them for sale..if so, may I have a link to purchase.?
I did make my on, but in bootloader mode, once I connected the usb connector, that I made, the device was identified with "fastboot devices" command, and the device did display that the usb tranfer mode was active, but when commands sent as instructed, to reboot bootloader or any command like the unlock command, the adb screen would display something like, not a good command..
long story short, I kept tinkering, thinking I had the usb cable pins connected in wrong slot, so I switch connection to other pins in the device, which was mentioned in the video to be careful and not connect to wrong ones..so I tried this..nothing ever would display, as connected, so I switched back to the original pin layout connection, now in bootloader mode, nothing happens when I connect, the device never displays that I have connected usb like before..
Have I shorted the pins out, and damaged the device to where it will not accept usb connection again.? The device in watch mode functions normally, also when I connect the usb cable I made, the charging (battery) icon displays, like the cable is charging the device, but in adb window, the device has never responded, even originally, before I messed around with the pin layout..now only the charge icon comes up in watch mode, nothing in bootloader mode..
Should I sale this device and purchase another, because this one can NEVER be unlocked now..??
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I have the same damn problem with unknown device! WTF??? ANy ideas??