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Hello there,
Like you can see this is my first post, so I start with saying I am happy to find this place and to be here.
Just a little while now, I am a proud owner of a HTC Desire aka HTC Bravo.
Now i am a little into programming with languages like java c c++ c# and some other strange ones.
So you can feel where I'm going to maby... I wanna start of developing my own APP on my HTC Desire.
Now I have a strange feeling that it's different to develop for a Nexus One as for a HTC Desire, like maby the way drivers are installed etc.
So can anyone point me in the right direction to start off?
Thanks in advanced! DesireDroid
Phone Info:
Stock
Brand: HTC Desire
Country: Holland
PhoneCompany: Telfort
OS: Android 2.1
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Kernel-version: 2.6.29-97da29ed
[email protected] #1
Softwarenummer: 1.15.405.4
Browserversie: Webkit 3.1
4GB Micro-SD
I found this article very informative: http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
And you develop an app for Android, not for a specific phone.
petz79 said:
I found this article very informative: url...(can't be posted)....url
And you develop an app for Android, not for a specific phone.
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Thnxs for your reply petz, I'm going to study that page carefully
I understand that you dev for Android, but there are allot of stories about apps only working on 1.5 or 1.6 , 2.1 etc.
Also the point to use the HTC Desire as a developers phone. Are there differences between developing (connecting the htc desire to the pc, and test your self made apps on it, so you need propper drivers etc... or are these the same as from the htc sync.exe ?) on the HTC Desire and a Nexus One for example?
I've only begun developing apps yesterday
As I understand it, you only use the functions provided by the Android SDK, so you don't need to use specific drivers. One app should work on every phone, as long as the phone has the appropriate functions (GPS, Wifi...). You can develop an app for a specific version of Android (1.5, 1.6, 2.1,...) If you use 2.1, older versions of Android won't be able to use the app.
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
No
Not that I'm aware of. You can't run Win Mob full stop.
Is it possible to dual boot with 2 different Custom MODS?? Like OpenDesire and Pays Rom for instance... Or a custom ROM and the official one that came with the phone..
hk5354 said:
it is possible to run win ce / WM on desire?
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This would be brilliant , they have android on the hd2, why can't we have winmo on the desire
+1 for a winmo 6,5 port
Would be great if you could multiboot, like with different sd cards.
But why would anyone want WinMo on the HTC Desire... Android for the win!
this is xda, this place has always been powered by "Because we can!", so don't ask such questions
Who in their right mind is going to put time and effort into porting a what is basically dead OS to the Desire ? Even Microsoft aren't bothering with WM anymore
Doesn't have to be 6.5...
But some WP7 features seem quite neat though.
I second this request! (if it is a request)
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
back to the dual boot point, we can boot from a sd card so it is possible to dual boot 2 diff android roms
htc fan89 said:
It's not possible since wm is not open source like android
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You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
Puenos said:
You are right on that. But Microsoft provides bootroms to test their emulator. Using this rom for dualbooting would be legit I guess..?
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I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I think you miss the point - whilst there is a legal aspect here, I think the main point is not the license associated with open source, but the source code itself.
As Android is open source, it can be compiled to different targets, and deep changes can be made to the source code to get everything working.
As WinMo is not open source, you do not have this luxury, and so the porting exercise would be much, much harder.
Regards,
Dave
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Well.. I didn't look at this closely enough.. but Microsoft also provides an emulator for testing their roms.. using this "microsoft device emulator"s sources would make it a bit easier I guess? Well.. you can click on "license" on the following link.. but I just get a "page not found".. so I don't know any details.. but here is the link I found:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...ED-6C95B261DDCD&displaylang=en&displaylang=en
I'm not a dev.. just did a bit research on this one and found their offical emulator.. besides that, there are also a few emulators for the WinMo environment.. some even written in Java I believe..
Again I don't know if they used some code from MS, or just wrote everything from scratch.. I don't really have enough knowledge here.. but I thought maybe I could share my thoughts and get some answers.. and maybe the information I found was a bit helpful?
Thanks anyway
Hy
At first im sorry for my bad englisch.
Back to multi boot of desire.
How we can implementing boot from sd-card and back.
How can i boot from sd-card?
What is with data.img, is it nessesary to build an other image or can i use the stock-rom to boot it from sd-card ( i think its unpossibele) ?
Is it right we need to patch hboot ?
is it possibel to load an other bootloader? (grub or somthing else)
I know many questions, but im faszinated of the idea "dual boot on my desire"
Greatings
meinbier
This would be a nice, becouse there is some apps that newer will be on android, and there is people that need this apps.
Dont tell me buy win mobile phone, becouse I get droid from my company. I m not programer, so I cant help on that way. I can only tell that i will donate some money to someone who make native winmobile app install / run on android via emulation or custom rom for desire.
Tnx for your time and i support this thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
im really interested in this as well ,i have just got a htc desire hd and would love to run both wp7 and android ,wp7 for xbox live is this any new info on this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UE-LVuudEk&feature=player_embedded
So its possible on the DHD!
Maybe on the old Desire too.
AFAIK the Desire's internal memory is not large enough for dual boot... I mean some ROMs have trouble fitting on the partitions now so what do you think would happen with 2 ROMs lol.. you'd have no space for apps... and if you did somehow manage to run a ROM from your SDCARD like you can with legendary devices like the touch pro where you run haret.exe from the phone which boots android - it would be very slow and impractical. So I doubt we will ever see this happen.
EDIT: Guess I was wrong! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182325
Hi, Here is my heist of various s58 Diagnostic NBH files. To use them for unlocking and S-OFF, a HTC Factory SmartCard or XTC Clip is required.
If you dont have the necessary hardware, these are still good for the following:
- Clear User Security Code
- Clear Call Timers
- Viewing Device Info (CID etc.)
Using these files will reset your device to factory state so be careful.
Here is a complete list of the s58 Files contained in this package:
Android:
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Desire, Desire HD, Desire S, Desire Z / G2, Incredible S, Inspire 4G (AT&T), Nexus One, Wildfire S and Sensation.
Windows Mobile 6.5:
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HD2, HD2 (TMOUS), Touch Diamond 2, Touch Pro 2 and Touch Pro 2 (CDMA).
Windows Phone 7:
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HD7, Mondrian, Mozart and Trophy.
To use, open the Zip File you require and extract the contents to the Root of your GoldCard then reboot your device into bootloader and Diag will start shortly after.
Please remember to hit the Thanks button if you found this thread useful.
BR
Gaz
Wildfire S not included, can you post it ?
borce_razor said:
Wildfire S not included, can you post it ?
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Hi, as soon as I get the Diag Files for the Wildfire S, I will update the thread and the Zip File.
BR
Gaz
nice one man
but how do I get a "HTC Factory SmartCard"
ceesheim said:
nice one man
but how do I get a "HTC Factory SmartCard"
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eBay, amazon, gsm forums or XTC Clip
You would certainly need an insider at HTC to get your hands on one of those badboys! Maybe someone at xda could get a supply going? I think the nearest we are going to get to one of those is an XTC Clip.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Possible fix for the Zune-Mode issue?
Hi,
Using these package can help users that have the known issue when the phone can't get back to Zune-Mode after using the DFRouter?
(When we are now in diagnostic mode and the PC recognizes the phone as two Qualcomm devices instead of a phone)
Thanks,
Ofir.
S58 Diag Files for HTC Wildfire S and HTC Sensation have been added!
so amazing~~~,we have these files and info,i think we can also make a "htc factory smartcard"
lyriquidperfection said:
S58 Diag Files for HTC Wildfire S and HTC Sensation have been added!
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How about one for my e3d aka shooter
Zarboz said:
How about one for my e3d aka shooter
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Ill see what I can find.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk
lyriquidperfection said:
Hi, Here is my heist of various s58 Diagnostic NBH files. To use them for unlocking and S-OFF, a HTC Factory SmartCard or XTC Clip is required.
If you dont have the necessary hardware, these are still good for the following:
- Clear User Security Code
- Clear Call Timers
- Viewing Device Info (CID etc.)
Using these files will reset your device to factory state so be careful.
Here is a complete list of the s58 Files contained in this package:
Android:
---------
Desire, Desire HD, Desire S, Desire Z / G2, Incredible S, Inspire 4G (AT&T), Nexus One, Wildfire S and Sensation.
Windows Mobile 6.5:
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HD2, HD2 (TMOUS), Touch Diamond 2, Touch Pro 2 and Touch Pro 2 (CDMA).
Windows Phone 7:
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HD7, Mondrian, Mozart and Trophy.
To use, open the Zip File you require and extract the contents to the Root of your GoldCard then reboot your device into bootloader and Diag will start shortly after.
Please remember to hit the Thanks button if you found this thread useful.
BR
Gaz
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how do we use the file without the hardware for hd7.
Niice, thank you for posting!
+1 for the CDMA Evo 3D(shooter) please
what does this do?
can it donwgrade bootloader of HD7??
Can you add files for HTC ONE X?
sensation error securtiy fail ..
It would be nice to have one for the HTC one x
Model: PJ46IMG
Cheers, thanks for posting!
+1 for the HTC One X please
Is there any File for the desire c already??
Model : PL01
it would be nice
This won't work with XTC.
PJ46DIAG for One X.
Not tested.
Does any one help in flashing HTC Wildfire S mobile with default android software or HTC OS without any preinstalled apps ?
I want to do this because I can use this phones' memory by removing unused apps/widgets/etc..,
can any one help me how to do this and where can I find the OS ?
Hello everyone
I have HTC desire 820 single sim and I unlocked the bootloader and copied all the info
and I wonder is it possible to flash it with Linux ubuntu for desktop since my ultimate goal is to emulate exe files with wine.
if desktop ubuntu wouldn't work I can try ubuntu touch as well
I know little but I'm learning fast and I would appreciate any help and advices.
Cheers
I think you can try to install postmarketOS. You would have to "start a new port". Also, it looks like wine works only with x86 and x86_64 architectures, and you would have to install box86 or box64.