Help me back up Orange UK ROM for the community! - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Everyone
I've just received my Desire back from HTC repair. They've put the original Orange RUU back on my phone, so before I root and start flashing roms again, I'm wondering if there's a way I can extract the Orange rom so people here can use it if they have to return their phone under warranty?
I'm a complete beginner at this stuff though, so if someone wants to help out you'll have to talk me through it step by step!

Someone posted a nandroid backup of the Orange rom. It's an old version but still. I don't see the point though because the WWE RUU from HTC is more up to date anyway. You can post your nandroid backup though.

I know the WWE is more up to date, I'm just thinking an actual Orange RUU would be useful for people who need to return their phone to "out of the box" state if they need to unroot and return their phone.
About 2 weeks ago I needed an Orange UK ruu but had to take my chances with the stock WWE rom, luckily I got away with it but if there's a way we can somehow extract one then that'd be helpful for anyone in the same position.

dellaclearing said:
I know the WWE is more up to date, I'm just thinking an actual Orange RUU would be useful for people who need to return their phone to "out of the box" state if they need to unroot and return their phone.
About 2 weeks ago I needed an Orange UK ruu but had to take my chances with the stock WWE rom, luckily I got away with it but if there's a way we can somehow extract one then that'd be helpful for anyone in the same position.
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^ Exactly!
Hold out hope, give it a couple of days and maybe someone else will know what to do.
In the mean time, root your phone and S-OFF (I think you need to S-OFF to create a NAND backup) when you root, flash the RA-recovery 2.0.1 as that can do NAND backups whereas the CWM that comes with unrevoked doesn't.

I would love a Orange UK RUU. I can't find any on the internet so definitely try and get it

Kryten2k35 said:
In the mean time, root your phone and S-OFF (I think you need to S-OFF to create a NAND backup) when you root, flash the RA-recovery 2.0.1 as that can do NAND backups whereas the CWM that comes with unrevoked doesn't.
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Just a quick question before I do that, I thought that if I root then all I'd be able to create is a backup of a rooted rom? Which wouldn't be any good for returning to "out of box state"? Remember, I'm 100% Noob so I may be wrong!
Also, what gets backed up when I do a nand? Shall I perform a factory reset first and then do it? Don't want any of my apps, email, ebay or google account backed up and passed on to everyone who uses my backup! I'm willing to give back to the community but I ain't that generous!

Tajio said:
I would love a Orange UK RUU. I can't find any on the internet so definitely try and get it
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Hopefully we can sort you out with one soon! Watch this space...

dellaclearing said:
Just a quick question before I do that, I thought that if I root then all I'd be able to create is a backup of a rooted rom? Which wouldn't be any good for returning to "out of box state"? Remember, I'm 100% Noob so I may be wrong!
Also, what gets backed up when I do a nand? Shall I perform a factory reset first and then do it? Don't want any of my apps, email, ebay or google account backed up and passed on to everyone who uses my backup! I'm willing to give back to the community but I ain't that generous!
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I'm entirely unsure. I think there's a way to unroot afterwards for anyone who uses your backup, and I think, yes, it'd be best to do a factory reset before the NAND (can use titanium for your own backup, though, so you can reinstall after the NAND and be back where you were)

Okay...
I used unrevoked to root. Performed a factory reset. Made up a fake google account so I could download rom manager, installed clockwork mod and created a Nand backup from there.
It's 448 MB in size, is that normal? Seems pretty large! In the backup folder there's something called sd-ext.img that is 130mb and another called data.img at 21mb, will that have saved information about my device or apps? Can I delete them or will that cause problems for anyone using my Nand to restore?
All I'm basically asking is, is my personal info, contacts, photos, sms, emails etc safely clear?
If all is good to go does anyone know a good place to upload and host for others to easily download it from? And do I need to upload the whole folder or is there just one specific img that people need?
Edit: Do I need to upload the whole folder or is there just one specific img file that people need?

You're not going to believe this... It's started boot-looping again!
I performed the Nandroid backup, rebooted, it stuck on the HTC logo, I removed the battery to get the SD card out so I could extract the Nand backup, put the battery back in and now can't get any further than HTC logo before it restarts and gets stuck on HTC logo over and over again!
What have I done wrong now? I'm not having much luck with this!
Edit: Had a quick read and found this was quite common when combining unrevoked and rom manager for backups. I restored from the backup I just made and all is working again now, I hope!

ahhh you could've gone 1 step further and posted an unrooted ROM!
you should've S-OFF'd with AlpharevX without setting up the entire phone etc. then made a nand backup of the unrooted ROM. Ahh well lol, I'm on Vodafone anway

bortak said:
ahhh you could've gone 1 step further and posted an unrooted ROM!
you should've S-OFF'd with AlpharevX without setting up the entire phone etc. then made a nand backup of the unrooted ROM. Ahh well lol, I'm on Vodafone anway
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Damn! If only you'd told me that a few hours earlier!
Well, it's too late now, I've already rooted. Is there a way to unroot and then create another backup?

Can anyone tell me which of the files in the backup I need to upload please? Do I need to upload all of them or can I delete sd-ext.img and data.img?
Or if there's a way to unroot and create a backup of an unrooted rom then let me know how to do it please!

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Anyone have an Orange nandroid backup?

Anyone have a Nandroid backup from an orange branded phone? Need these as part of the process for returning phone to shipped state.
Dummy here didnt do such a backup prior to rooting/downgrading and installing custom roms.
Cheers
You can only do nandroids when you have root so for warranty purposes they have no use, you will remain rooted. You need to run a RUU to get back to stock. Not any RUU will work, you have to find the right one for your device. Did you wright down the software information before rooting?
Close but no cigar ...
Because if one shells (via adb) and removes the apk and busybox, then apply OTA Orange updates .. the phone is restored to Vanilla Orange.
I first, however, require the nandroid backup with which to initiate the process.
Anyone got a nandroid backup please?
Does anyone has an update to this topic?
I'm stuck in the same situation. I have an Froyo OTA Update for Orange branded desire. The only thing whats missing is the nandroid backup of an eclair rom in version 1.19.72.3.
can anyboy help here?
You need to learn how to search...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=796975
Hi,
the link below will take you to an Orange NAND with the following properties:
Baseband 32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
HBOOT 0.93
Build 2.17.61.2
please bear in mind, this is hosted from my NAS so the download will be slow if you use it.
Let me know how you get on.
http://91.109.18.238/nand/
Mike
Sorry, should've added. its for an SLCD on Froyo.
Mike
Nice1 Mike.
Could you poss get some uptime for your NAS around 7pm tonight? I'll be travelling home to blackpool from london. Should be in at 7 and will d/l and report back.
If all goes well, I will create - using my wintel & visual studio skills - an RUU from the nand and hand back the RUU to you for onward comms - and storage on your NAS of course
Darren
ok, i'll stick my NAS on now.
ip address has changed so new link - http://91.110.71.19/nand/
let me know how you get on...
Can access your NAS Mike. .
Will d/l about 7pm tonight. Cant do this at work right now.
no problem, reply to this post to let me know if its working or not later on. i'll keep an eye on it
@daz - any joy?
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Hey Mike,
Soz. Been out of country for xmas.
Turn on your NAS mate and let me know by posting here.
I will d/l using my HTC and report back.
Subsequent to that I hope to complete my app that converts NAND to an update.zip and also create the RUU.EXE file.
Daz
Ill get it done tomorrow and post on here.
I think I need to restore it and strip out all my personal stuff and any 'extras' and take another nand.
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Daz,
right, my NAS is on and you can download an Orange nand from it - "OrangeCLEAN-2011-01-04.00.26.06".
This should be the standard Orange rom with nothing else added apart from root..
you can get it from http://91.110.72.166/nand/
Let me know how you get on...
Nope.
Just tried now - cannot access your NAS.
Erm, just thought, this NAND backup cannot be an original Orange ROM backup because, access to NAND backup can only be achieved after rooting the phone and installing an alternative loader.
Therefore, the filesystem data/partitions must surely be modified and thus not stock Orange filesystem/partitions. Its logical?
yes, you are correct. it is original bar root/clockworkmod.
I've uploaded my Orange NAND (Build 2.17.61.2) & the most recent OTA update to my dropbox.
Links below...
NAND - http://db.tt/BdOfBLM
OTA - http://db.tt/ad9CHqa
feel free to pick them up....
mikep99 said:
yes, you are correct. it is original bar root/clockworkmod.
I've uploaded my Orange NAND (Build 2.17.61.2) & the most recent OTA update to my dropbox.
Links below...
NAND - http://db.tt/BdOfBLM
OTA - http://db.tt/ad9CHqa
feel free to pick them up....
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cheers m8 handy to hav
regards
nice1. I have them now.
working on an RUU...
The OTA is corrupted.
Inside, the firmware ZIP is no good.
I'll see if there is another OTA.
Is your NAND from a 2.1 or 2.2 Android OS?
EDIT: Just seen your earlier post about it being SLCD from Froyo - so thats 2.2
Cheers.

[Q] Is there a definitive guide to installing 2.29.405.2 on a rooted phone?

Ive had a look around and theres loads of posts on it, but nothing which really explains what to do for this specific update
Firstly, where can i download the OTA from? i cant see a link anywhere on this forum, i must be looking in the wrong place
Im on a rooted rom and have read on here about all the problems you get when installing the OTA on a rooted rom so was hoping someone could tell me what i need to do to get it. Ive read that unrevoked will remove root afterwards, but as im already rooted, does this mean i need to flash/format my device to a stock rom first (i sure hope not )
The only reason i want this update is for the 90% battery fix which is the only thing which really annoys me about this phone atm
Thanks to anyone that can help
1. Get the 2.29.405.2 RUU
2. Flash
3. Re-root
This is THE best way of getting the update if you're that bothered about it. And you're not looking hard enough for the OTA file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9640589&postcount=70
As always, thanks EddyOS
Hi Eddy!
How i have to run your sig. Ruu?
1. download ruu
2. pc connect with usb cable to phone (htc sync)
3 run the Ruu
The phone is just on and normal?
thank's
If you're going to connect to the PC you need HTC Sync installed on your computer. If you don't want to install that on your PC then just connect the phone in FASTBOOT
Then just run the RUU
thank's Eddy!
Hi Eddy
Im trying to flash this now, but when i do it from the recovery console, it says:
E: No Signature (325 Files)
E: Verification failed
so i cant install the OTA
I cant install it via unrevoked as its not packaged as an image file
Can you tell me where im going wrong
Thanks
what exactly are you trying to flash?
can you give the link?
Its the link which EddyOS put in post #2 above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...9&postcount=70
right, thats just the OTA update.
i'm assuming you're still rooted? if so, you dont want to run that.
You need to flash the RUU first as Eddy mentioned.
What rom are you currently on? and is it different to the original rom for the phone?
yeah im still rooted. My network is orange, but the last thing i 'installed' was 2.10.405.2-initd-rooted-stock-v2.zip
Are you able to link me to the RUU or whichever file i need? would be much appreciated
ok, you must have created a goldcard then?
the 2.29.405.2 RUU can be found here - http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed.exe
once you've confirmed you've got a goldcard, run the RUU while you're phone is in Fastboot.
make sure you backup anything that you need as this will wip your phone and unroot.
and do a nand backup just in case...
ah excellent. thanks very much. yeah i do have a goldcard
one last question(s) though...whats a nand backup? and how do i do one?
also, can i reroot after using unrevoked?
you can do a nand backup through the recovery panels (power & vol down) or through ROM manager if you have it installed.
this should give you a backup to go back to if running the RUU gives problems.
and yes, you can root with unrevoked after you've run the RUU.
excellent. thank you sooo much for all the help
no problem, let us know how you get on....
everything seems to have gone ok just restoring all my apps now using mybackup, but the new rom is all loaded up and running fine. will let you know over the next few days if any issues arise
Good news!!!
Keep the RUU safe incase you need it in the future
lame...seems i was a bit to quick to say everything went well
so before i ran the ruu, i backed up all my apps (apks + data) using mybackup pro
however, now it doesnt restore any of the apps i saved to my SD card. When i go into the apps manager after restoring the backup, it shows no apps installed there. and when viewing all apps, it only shows the ones installed on my internal memory
Any idea why this is happening? I do have root and have restored the backup with superuser permissions
not too sure as i use Titanium.
have you tried restoring 1 by 1? you may have 1 corrupt backup thats preventing the rest from being restored - i'm sure i've read about something similar.
also, if you haven't customized your phone too much since the RUU/root, you could boot into recovery and run a full wipe again and reboot. it may help...
EDIT - you've not still got your phone connected to your PC by chance have you?
if its mounted as a drive you wont have access to your SDcard.....

Rom swapping

Hi, at the moment I am rooted. With stock 2.2 and thinking about trying different Rom, leedroid, Defrost Inc. Ones, etc
Some mention they have different kernels, are the kernel a part of the Rom?
If I use a new rom with a different kernel or hboot (hboot 0.83 now) will flashing back to my stock 2.2 froyo Backup still work? From clockworkmod?
Thanks.
Vodafone Branded originally, but on custom stock un-branded now.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
ROMs come with a kernel but you can change these yourself if you need to as well once up and running.
If you change to an AOSP ROM you can't restore settings from a Sense-based ROM. App-specific settings should be OK, though
Since you are already rooted the next step is to make a nandroid of your current rom.
After the nandroid you are ready to flash any other rom, everything you need (well it's just the rom and kernel since hboot is not in the rom nor does it matter) except the radio (which you don't need to update since your already on 2.2) is in the rom you download. Before flashing you might want to backup your apps with titanium backup or sync your app list with appbrain because it's recommended to do a full wipe.
You won't be able to flash back your current rom but you can restore the nandroid if you want or you can run a matching RUU to go back to stock without root.
TheGhost1233 said:
Since you are already rooted the next step is to make a nandroid of your current rom.
After the nandroid you are ready to flash any other rom, everything you need (well it's just the rom and kernel since hboot is not in the rom nor does it matter) except the radio (which you don't need to update since your already on 2.2) is in the rom you download. Before flashing you might want to backup your apps with titanium backup or sync your app list with appbrain because it's recommended to do a full wipe.
You won't be able to flash back your current rom but you can restore the nandroid if you want or you can run a matching RUU to go back to stock without root.
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Ok, allready got backups created with nandroid,
i dont follow the last bit entirely.... surely if i `restore a nandroid back-up` of my current ROM from recovery, is that not restoring the nandriod ?
`restore the nandriod` ?
if i were to got back to un-rooted stock, i assume i can re-root again ??
sorry if these are a bit noobish !
i forgot to put in the OP earlier that its a Vodafone branded handset, does this complicate things ?
many thanks.
If you're on Vodafone UK you can download the latest stock 2.33.161.2 RUU from here should you ever need to return to stock for warranty purposes:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
Keep it safe
EddyOS said:
If you're on Vodafone UK you can download the latest stock 2.33.161.2 RUU from here should you ever need to return to stock for warranty purposes:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
Keep it safe
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ok, cheers.
could you comment more on the others bits i asked about in my 2nd post ??
cheers.
EDIT:is it poosible to De-Brand the handset itself, not just the ROM ?
If you mean the startup screen you can flash a stock RUU (e.g. the one in my signature) using a gold card. This will give you the stock HTC logo on boot up.
Regaridng the other points, a Nandroid is a backup of your ROM at the point you made the backup. If you restore it it will roll the phone back to how it was at the time you made it.
If you use Titanium Backup you can backup your apps/data you can restore these with your new ROM
You're best reading the guides in the Dev forum as they explain things in more detail
cheers, thanks ok, waiting for a new Micro SDGc card 8GB Class 6....
only a cheapy one for now, hopefully the read write is ok for playing with ROMs with EXT3 support ???
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDH...B-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-6-+-2-Adapters
DJ 1 said:
cheers, thanks ok, waiting for a new Micro SDGc card 8GB Class 6....
only a cheapy one for now, hopefully the read write is ok for playing with ROMs with EXT3 support ???
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/Transcend/Transcend-8GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-6-%2B-2-Adapters
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That'll be fine, unless you were using 720p recording I doubt you'd notice any difference betweeen Class 2 or Class 6. Come to think about it, I doubt you'd even notice the difference then, the camera is so good at dropping frames.
I only paid £12 for my Samsung plus I think it's the standard price for 8 gig Class 6 cards now, it does me nicely for photo and film storage which is all I use it for. Make sure to format the SD card with a 32k allocation unit size it will help with performance, especially video recording, and I wouldn't bother formatting more than 512Mbs into EXT3, I used my Desire for about three months and only ever used ~3ooMbs and I had looooads of crap installed on it.
ok , another question loosly related to mp OP
when dealing with back-ups/restoring em etc, nandroid is fine. But booting into Hboot-->then Recovery most times ends up as a HTC Logo screen n freezes...i end up pulling the battery and trying again, and it`ll usuall work the next time.
reason for clockworkmod recovery menu not always loading when initiated from bootloader ??
thanks
SDcard wise-- i went with the fastest read/write speed i could find was a little unsure of the brand though...
DJ 1 said:
ok , another question loosly related to mp OP
when dealing with back-ups/restoring em etc, nandroid is fine. But booting into Hboot-->then Recovery most times ends up as a HTC Logo screen n freezes...i end up pulling the battery and trying again, and it`ll usuall work the next time.
reason for clockworkmod recovery menu not always loading when initiated from bootloader ??
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Maybe it was a bad install, try updating Clockwork via ROM Manager in the App Market.

[Q] A few questions before rooting

Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!
1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting
Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
EddyOS said:
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
EddyOS said:
there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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EddyOS said:
will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card
EddyOS said:
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.
There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now
Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
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Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted
Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through
GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here
What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.
1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there
kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181

[Q] RUU Help Required

Does anyone know what RUU to apply to a Hutchinson 3G Ireland branded HOX? I'm assuming it's an ireland specific RUU rather than the UK release for the same service provider, but I can't source it & my firmware's borked. Heavy graphics processing, video playing & some settings sliders all cause a crash-reboot. Don't want to have to wait for S-OFF to get my phone fully working again!
For reference, it's htc boot-unlocked & rooted, and I think the problem came from trying to apply an ota (which failed to fully flash) after flashing an unbranded stock rom on it. I'm such a dumbass.
If the RUU isn't available then restoring the backup you made before rooting is the only way to get back
Thanks, I'd actually managed to forget about the full pre-root backup I did. I'll crack that out tonight & comment here on how I got along.
Quick follow-up question: I take it an adb backup would include the firmware in the system data?
Just flash the CWM backup you made and that'll be enough. Then flash the stock recovery and relock the bootloader
I just hope that I remembered to take the CWM backup off my phone! Comedy of fecking errors.
Phew! Had my original CWM backup, restored fine, sucessful OTA update applied. Didn't need to re-bootlock though, which is a relief. Re-root tonight & wait till S-OFF is achieved before I go looking at other ROMs. Thanks for the help!
Glad it worked. What I'd do at this point is wipe the phone and take a fresh backup in case your current versions RUU never surfaces. Then re-root and restore your apps from Titanium Backup (if you used that)
EDIT: Quick question - what software version are you on now?

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