Hi, at the moment I am rooted. With stock 2.2 and thinking about trying different Rom, leedroid, Defrost Inc. Ones, etc
Some mention they have different kernels, are the kernel a part of the Rom?
If I use a new rom with a different kernel or hboot (hboot 0.83 now) will flashing back to my stock 2.2 froyo Backup still work? From clockworkmod?
Thanks.
Vodafone Branded originally, but on custom stock un-branded now.
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ROMs come with a kernel but you can change these yourself if you need to as well once up and running.
If you change to an AOSP ROM you can't restore settings from a Sense-based ROM. App-specific settings should be OK, though
Since you are already rooted the next step is to make a nandroid of your current rom.
After the nandroid you are ready to flash any other rom, everything you need (well it's just the rom and kernel since hboot is not in the rom nor does it matter) except the radio (which you don't need to update since your already on 2.2) is in the rom you download. Before flashing you might want to backup your apps with titanium backup or sync your app list with appbrain because it's recommended to do a full wipe.
You won't be able to flash back your current rom but you can restore the nandroid if you want or you can run a matching RUU to go back to stock without root.
TheGhost1233 said:
Since you are already rooted the next step is to make a nandroid of your current rom.
After the nandroid you are ready to flash any other rom, everything you need (well it's just the rom and kernel since hboot is not in the rom nor does it matter) except the radio (which you don't need to update since your already on 2.2) is in the rom you download. Before flashing you might want to backup your apps with titanium backup or sync your app list with appbrain because it's recommended to do a full wipe.
You won't be able to flash back your current rom but you can restore the nandroid if you want or you can run a matching RUU to go back to stock without root.
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Ok, allready got backups created with nandroid,
i dont follow the last bit entirely.... surely if i `restore a nandroid back-up` of my current ROM from recovery, is that not restoring the nandriod ?
`restore the nandriod` ?
if i were to got back to un-rooted stock, i assume i can re-root again ??
sorry if these are a bit noobish !
i forgot to put in the OP earlier that its a Vodafone branded handset, does this complicate things ?
many thanks.
If you're on Vodafone UK you can download the latest stock 2.33.161.2 RUU from here should you ever need to return to stock for warranty purposes:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
Keep it safe
EddyOS said:
If you're on Vodafone UK you can download the latest stock 2.33.161.2 RUU from here should you ever need to return to stock for warranty purposes:
http://www.multiupload.com/K0FR1OK301
Keep it safe
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ok, cheers.
could you comment more on the others bits i asked about in my 2nd post ??
cheers.
EDIT:is it poosible to De-Brand the handset itself, not just the ROM ?
If you mean the startup screen you can flash a stock RUU (e.g. the one in my signature) using a gold card. This will give you the stock HTC logo on boot up.
Regaridng the other points, a Nandroid is a backup of your ROM at the point you made the backup. If you restore it it will roll the phone back to how it was at the time you made it.
If you use Titanium Backup you can backup your apps/data you can restore these with your new ROM
You're best reading the guides in the Dev forum as they explain things in more detail
cheers, thanks ok, waiting for a new Micro SDGc card 8GB Class 6....
only a cheapy one for now, hopefully the read write is ok for playing with ROMs with EXT3 support ???
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDH...B-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-6-+-2-Adapters
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cheers, thanks ok, waiting for a new Micro SDGc card 8GB Class 6....
only a cheapy one for now, hopefully the read write is ok for playing with ROMs with EXT3 support ???
http://www.mymemory.co.uk/Micro-SDHC/Transcend/Transcend-8GB-Micro-SD-(SDHC)-Card---Class-6-%2B-2-Adapters
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That'll be fine, unless you were using 720p recording I doubt you'd notice any difference betweeen Class 2 or Class 6. Come to think about it, I doubt you'd even notice the difference then, the camera is so good at dropping frames.
I only paid £12 for my Samsung plus I think it's the standard price for 8 gig Class 6 cards now, it does me nicely for photo and film storage which is all I use it for. Make sure to format the SD card with a 32k allocation unit size it will help with performance, especially video recording, and I wouldn't bother formatting more than 512Mbs into EXT3, I used my Desire for about three months and only ever used ~3ooMbs and I had looooads of crap installed on it.
ok , another question loosly related to mp OP
when dealing with back-ups/restoring em etc, nandroid is fine. But booting into Hboot-->then Recovery most times ends up as a HTC Logo screen n freezes...i end up pulling the battery and trying again, and it`ll usuall work the next time.
reason for clockworkmod recovery menu not always loading when initiated from bootloader ??
thanks
SDcard wise-- i went with the fastest read/write speed i could find was a little unsure of the brand though...
DJ 1 said:
ok , another question loosly related to mp OP
when dealing with back-ups/restoring em etc, nandroid is fine. But booting into Hboot-->then Recovery most times ends up as a HTC Logo screen n freezes...i end up pulling the battery and trying again, and it`ll usuall work the next time.
reason for clockworkmod recovery menu not always loading when initiated from bootloader ??
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Maybe it was a bad install, try updating Clockwork via ROM Manager in the App Market.
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Hi all,
So I'm on O2 UK with a branded (and I assume locked) Desire.
HBOOT: 0.80
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Rom version: 1.20.207.3
Bottom line is, I want to root before O2 push out their 2.2 update which will inevitably increase my HBOOT version. I'm a actually a software developer by trade, but I'm scared and want to take this whole rooting process slowly.
I've already created a goldcard but I've also set up my PC ready for the Unrevoked method, so I'll probably end up using that. So my main question is:
- Once I've rooted with unrevoked, do I HAVE to install a custom ROM that very minute or can I simply reboot my phone and use the stock ROM until I feel I'm ready to reflash?
Thank you! (my first post, be gentle please!)
-L
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Good evening lodger. I was in the same place s you, o2, new desire and first time boot.
I used the unrevoked method, it took 5 mins and have not needed a gold card.
I have flashed another ROM straight away however my phone re booted in to the original Rom and I could continue to use it with the original o2 Rom but just with root access.
Hope this is of some help.
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Thank you for the quick replies!
So please correct me if my understanding is wrong, I run the unrevoked process and I get a new recovery rom that lets me perform nandroid backups and flash custom roms but nothing more (yet)?
So if I were to just take a nandroid backup at this point and boot the phone normally, I would see no difference until I actually flashed a custom rom with root access?
I'm actually unsure as to whether the phone is actually locked as I've been with O2 for a looooong time and never had a locked phone from them and unfortunately I don't have another sim card to try in it. The only branding is the O2 boot screen, nothing else. So if anyone could confirm the thing about needing an unlock code that would be great.
Sorry for all of the questions, I'd just like to understand the process a little better before applying it to my pride and joy
-L
L0dger said:
Thank you for the quick replies!
So please correct me if my understanding is wrong, I run the unrevoked process and I get a new recovery rom that lets me perform nandroid backups and flash custom roms but nothing more (yet)?
So if I were to just take a nandroid backup at this point and boot the phone normally, I would see no difference until I actually flashed a custom rom with root access?
I'm actually unsure as to whether the phone is actually locked as I've been with O2 for a looooong time and never had a locked phone from them and unfortunately I don't have another sim card to try in it. The only branding is the O2 boot screen, nothing else. So if anyone could confirm the thing about needing an unlock code that would be great.
Sorry for all of the questions, I'd just like to understand the process a little better before applying it to my pride and joy
-L
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As of unrevoked version 3.0 it will root your desire and install a custom recovery.
So you'll have a stock Rom that's rooted, then you can nandroid backup and install a custom Rom when ever you want.
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I can confirm the first reply you got was wrong. Unrevoked is the easiest and best method to use. It WILL root your phone as well as install a custom recovery. You can then continue to use the stock rom with the benefits of root.
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You won't require an unlock code for an o2 branded phone.
O2 phones are normally locked, but iirc you can use Orange sim cards in there too.
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The only people who need an unlock code are Orange users.
As for unrEVOked, it will give you root. The handset will be perfectly usable as soon as unrEVOked is finished. You can then choose to stay as you are or play with all the roms in the dev forum.
Personally I'd jump straight into the dev section and download like a geek on speed
Thank you everyone. You've helped clarify thing no-end and given me the confidence to go ahead and join you all in root land Ok, one last round of questions:
So once I'm rooted, I can jump straight onto the market and download titanium backup and get all my stuff backed up, then I'm pretty much good to go right? (I'll feel a LOT happier once I have a backup!)
Any recommendations as to which rom I should go with first? There are a LOT out there and as a newbie to all of this, sifting through them is a tad daunting.
What's the deal with radio updates? Is there anything I should be aware of when applying them? Should they be applied first, before the OS rom or the other way around?
Having already created a goldcard, is it worth hanging onto it? I hear they do come in handy.
Again, sorry for all the questions but I figure it's best to ask them now rather than get stuck further down the line.
Thanks again
-L
Update: I'm rooted! nandroid backup is running now! Phew!
Thank you again everyone!
-L
It depends what your looking for in a rom. If you want froyo with sense you could try ones by pays, or the leedroid one. If you want plain android, I'd go for defrost by richard trip, or opendesire by adamg.
You will need the latest radio for the new froyo roms for stability and to ensure no echo during calls. The radio is the baseband that you see listed in about phone. It will also increase your wifi and mobile network strength.
When flashing the radio your phone will reboot twice. It is extremely important that you do not interrupt the flashing process and if it looks like it's frozen or whatever, just leave it, and be patient. The radio flash is perfectly safe, but if you do interrupt it you will have an unrecoverable brick!
Titanium will work as soon as you have root, I'd get the paid version if you have a lot of apps, as the free version requires you to confirm each app install one by one, paid version is fully automatic.
Finally, if you want to put your apps to sd card, then the froyo one is rubbish! Most if not all the custom roms use oldschool a2sd which is far better but requires an ext3 partition to be made on your card. To make the ext3 partition use either the custom recovery you have from unrEVOked or download rom manager from the market. The process of creating the partition will ddelete your sd card though so take a backup if needed.
Hope this helps you a bit, and good luck. Once you have tried a few roms you will love it
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The only people who need an unlock code are Orange users.
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This is wrong, Orange users must use a compatable radio meaning there's no need to unlock.
As for you, if your phone is locked then you will need to flash a compatable radio like orange users. I'm not sure which radio versions o2 uses so it may be worth googling or checking which radio your running. In future when flashing a custom firmware use one that doesn't have a radio file bundled with it.
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This is wrong, Orange users must use a compatable radio meaning there's no need to unlock.
As for you, if your phone is locked then you will need to flash a compatable radio like orange users. I'm not sure which radio versions o2 uses so it may be worth googling or checking which radio your running. In future when flashing a custom firmware use one that doesn't have a radio file bundled with it.
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Unless something has changed you are incorrect. Any radio updated away from the stock one locked orange handsets. No other networks are affected.
All froyo roms require the latest radio. This is not optional.
Something has changed because I have a locked orange desire, with the latest radio running the latest open desire firmware and have not had a sim lock message.
I wouldn't of said what I did if I wasn't sure
Best custom rom is neophyte 1.6 if you want sense froyo
Well I guess the only way to find out will be to pop a different sim in and see what happens. I haven't yet seen anyone with an O2 branded phone with problems flashing to froyo on my forum travels, but I guess its worth finding out for sure. I'm prepared to pay for an unlock code if need be.
So would I be better off using clockworkmod to flash to 2.2 or Rom manager? I assume I have the choice now?
I've taken a titanium backup so now all I have to do is put the radio and os roms on the root of my SD card, flash, *pray* then restore my apps after it reboots?
Thank you again to all. I wouldn't have done any of this if it wasn't for you guys taking the time to help me understand this whole process. I prefer to know more than just "Follow these steps and this happens".
-L
Well I finally grew a pair and flashed neophyte 1.6 and i'm proper impressed! Thank you to everyone again for your help and advice.
For the record, I didn't need an unlock code. I just flashed the latest radio and rom straight after each other in clockwork and rebooted. That first boot is a loooong scary one but it was all good in the end
Thanks everyone!
-L
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Good stuff!! See it wasn't that bad was it?
Well,you remind me of myself when I tried to root my Hero...The whole process had scared the **** out of me!Well,until VillainRom booted that is!
I haven't rooted my Desire yet as I was stupid enough to install the 2.2 OTA,but will do something soon enough...UnrEVOked can't do anything with the new HBOOT,can it?
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Good stuff!! See it wasn't that bad was it?
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It was by far the scariest thing I've done this year!
Only thing I seem to be having a problem with is Juice Defender + Ultimate Juice (if anyone uses it?). When Juice Defender disables mobile data depending e.g. when the screen is locked, it keeps coming back on by itself which just adds to the battery drain. I've scoured setting after setting in case there's something forcing mobile data back on after JD disables it but found nothing. This used to work perfectly before I switched roms and it's kinda frustrating.
I'll probably have to try a couple of roms until I find one that works well with all my apps.
No, UnrEVOked doesn't work with a HBOOT > 0.80. From what I've read, there is a way to downgrade your HBOOT to 0.80 but with very mixed success rates.
I recently rooted using unrevoked on a mac, and am now running CM6, id like to go to back to my original software which was 2.1 with Sense on Telus. Is this possible, I dont mind if i lose all my contacts and apps etc. I'd just really like to go back to the software so i can rest easy. If so, can someone provide detailed step by step instructions for this as im a big noob. Thanks in Advance.
Run your original RUU, more info here:
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-desire/
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UGH???
there is no telus one??
Dont suppose you performed a Nandroid backup that you can use to restore the original rom image using some recovery?
If not, check this thread:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762063
See post #19 (another member packed a nandroid backup of the stock Telus rom) especially and posts on the next few pages of this thread for a link to the original Telus stock radio image for 2.1.
Good luck.
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Hi again, can you explain exactly how to do what your saying to, step by step, because i have no experience with nandroid etc., someone else help me install CM6.
adbirdie said:
Hi again, can you explain exactly how to do what your saying to, step by step, because i have no experience with nandroid etc., someone else help me install CM6.
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You just said you had CM6. Problem solved lol.
Sorry typo i meant to say someone else HELPED me install CM6. So can any tell me what to do with the nandroid backup and radio, in detail. Thanks
adbirdie said:
Sorry typo i meant to say someone else HELPED me install CM6. So can any tell me what to do with the nandroid backup and radio, in detail. Thanks
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There are a few nandroid backups of telus floating around but they do not include the radio. The current 2.2 radio's floating around do not work with 2.1 but should be able to find something that does work.
When you find a backup of the original telus rom you will need to copy it to your sd card to the location where they are stored... off hand I belive it is..
clockworkmod/backup/ date and time stamp of the backup
When you get the file there you boot into recovery, move down to android and select restore and pick the date of the one you want to restore.
Honestly if you want a sence UI there are many 2.2 htc sence roms on here which are much better then 2.1.
Are you only missing the sence widgets etc? Or do you need it back to original to return it etc?
Thanks i found a nandroid back up on another thread, as well as a radio. If you could find me a 2.2 sense rom, and radio, and tell me exactly how to install from a mac that would be great, cuz im super afraid of bricking my phone, and i dont really need CM6. THanks in advance
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Thanks i found a nandroid back up on another thread, as well as a radio. If you could find me a 2.2 sense rom, and radio, and tell me exactly how to install from a mac that would be great, cuz im super afraid of bricking my phone, and i dont really need CM6. THanks in advance
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Depending on the look and feel and how customized you want there are a few options. Listed in no particular order. I have never tried the Stock rooted one though.
Highly Customized:
AuraxTSense - Has alot of transparancies
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742371
Pays-ROM Froyo Sense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729172
LeeDrOiD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
Closest to Stock
Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Minimalistic: Prob don't want these if you don't like CM6 since they don't come with alot of the HTC Widgets that you may be accustomed to. They are still very good though.
Froyo DeLite
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741661
MacLite
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755339
Are there any 2.2 RUU's out there that dont require a gold card, that would be what im really looking for, and also the instructions for the official froyo are not as clear as id like them to be, so im kinda nervous about doing that.
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Are there any 2.2 RUU's out there that dont require a gold card, that would be what im really looking for, and also the instructions for the official froyo are not as clear as id like them to be, so im kinda nervous about doing that.
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If you are running cm6 you are already rooted with recovery. All that is required to install any of those roms is to download them to your sd card, reboot into recovery, run a wipe system then install zip from sd card, boot and your good to go.
Note: Some of them may require a ext partition on the sd card which I would assume you don't have since cm6 does not need/use it nor did the 2.1 that came with it.
MacLite and the Official 2.2 rooted would not need any changes, just the download.
You should not need a goldcard for anything.
How do i install new radio??????
If you are running CM6 it already uses a froyo radio, you don't need to change it unless you are having issues etc. You do it the same way, download it to the sd card, boot into recovery and say install zip from sd card etc. Same way you would a rom.
Also, when i reboot how long do i wait at the android with the box, before yanking battery
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Also, when i reboot how long do i wait at the android with the box, before yanking battery
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Android with the box? Preferably never, only time its really safe to do so is when its the HTC Logo that never goes away.
so your saying when the android bot with the box comes up just wait it out, and it should reboot into 2.2 sense?
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so your saying when the android bot with the box comes up just wait it out, and it should reboot into 2.2 sense?
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Well better to explain what you have done, what you are currently trying to do.
What rom did you download?
official froyo, but i have started installing yet, im afraid ill break my phone
is there any live chat i can reach you on, im really quite scared, and i want someone to be there incase something goes wrong
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
How does rooting void the warranty less than flashing a custom rom? Don't answer cause it doesn't.
It is possible to root and keep the current rom, but if you want to enable A2SD then it's a lot of work (not talking about the froyo crap).
So if you want A2SD is suggest you root with Unrevoked and flash Leedroid. Don't forget to make a ext partition on the sd card before flashing.
Disclaimer: You are the only one responsible for you phone, no one else!
You can root the stock ROM as TheGhost 233 said. You can also use AlphaRev's S-Off as well on it if you wanted.
As for me, I couldn't be bothered with A2SD so I just S-Off'd and then used the n1table to increase my internal memory. The ROM I use uses bugger all in the system. Also, you can move apps to SD card anyway if you have 2.2+.
gaz1888 said:
Hi after spending about a week reading through forums I managed to change my friends HTC HD2 to android using the LEO "Stock" NAND Android ROM.
All went great thanks to the excellent instuctions on here.
I then put z4root on and app2sd and all worked great.
I then deceicded to buy an HTC desire for myself not the HD one.
However maybe I should have done some more reading first as I cant find a way to root device to install apps to sd card.
I dont really want to flash another rom as phone is new and under warrant.Can you root without flashing a new rom or somehow move them to sd
Have I just made a huge mistake buying this phone or is there a way.
All help appreciated thanks
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No, I don't think you've made a mistake buying this particular phone....seriously....
As for rooting, use the Unrevoked method which is the easiest....Alpharev S-OFF works too ( I think you can't flash custom HBOOT images if your phone has the latest PVT-4 NAND..better check on that..)
Here's the complete guide from the Desire Android Development section of the forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Thanks for the replies I am waiting on phone getting delivered today from virgin.
I will post back when I get a chance to have a look at it.
I got root using unrevoked3 but my phone is s-on
My phone is on virgin branded and I presume locked though not tried another sin in it yet.
If I wanted to flash leedroid Rom onto phone what steps would I have to do
I put on setcpu so that seems to have helped battery life but would like custom Rom on
Thanks
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Hold on wait a minute you don't have to flash a new ROM at all your v-mobile phone should be on froyo (android 2.2) current software version 2.22.351.3 which already lets you put some apps onto your sd card at the moment i only have 3 downloaded apps that are on phone only mode.
[edit] you can also add downloaded apps from computer to sd card and install with Astro - Every one that i have done this with enabled move to sd and i still have 98mb of space to store more apps (even with the ones that are installed by v-mobile)
Thanks for reply yes it is on new update but I thought some of the modded roms were using less battery power so I wanted to know how to install one.
I have rooted using unrevoked 3 but i notice my phone is s-on
Just wanted to know if someone could advise me on the steps to do this or point me to a guide.
Will look at that astro as well thanks.
I have modinstall also
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
EddyOS said:
The issue you have is should things go wrong you can't return to stock as the Virgin RUU hasn't been leaked, so make a gold card now before you continue. This way, should the worst happen, you can flash the generic HTC RUU to get back to stock
Then look at custom ROMs using A2SD+ - most do it these days but best to check the ROM thread in question to make sure. Then partition your SD card and flash the ROM and you're good to go.
S-OFF isn't something you NEED - just means you can make changes to the OS without having to go into recovery first. If you're not going to be making a lot of changes bar a new ROM then leave that for now
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This is what i was thinking and knowing v-mobile if you can't find a stock ROM to flash back to may have no warranty. That's the only reason i havent messed with mine
Early version (2.1) are about so you could downgrade using the guide on here but I don't know if it'd work (depends on the HBOOT)
Either way, a gold card is needed
Hi,
soon, I will get my ordered HTC Desire from Amazon Germany. Hope it's not a Desire with Hboot Version > 0.92. Amazon descriped it as an Android 2.1 version. Is it possible that Android 2.1 comes with a non rootable bootloader > 0.93, worst case version 1.06 ?
For example. Hope I will get a Desire with a 0.92 Hboot and root it successfully, what will happen when the phone is rebooting. Is it updating automatically to Android 2.2 after it get connected and maybe lost the root access. Have read about this in some boards.
I think I have to flash a custom rom after rooting the device before I go online? Maybe these questions are stupid but I need to know the right steps to get the full potential out of my new phone.
Which custom rom is preferable? LeeDrOiD V3.0.2, CyanogenMod-7 ..?
Thank you in advance
shredman
Sup Shredman
I got a Desire with HBOOT 0.93, I can assure you it is completely rootable, I rooted with unrEVOked and the 1st ROM I tried was StarBurst, very awesome ROM.
I assume you want a gingerbread ROM, thus your asking for a deciding factor between CyanogenMod7 Or LeeDrOid 3.0.2, my advice is this if you like Sense UI, LeeDrOid if you don’t CyanogenMod7.
Check out Desire Android Development and check out the other options available.
Hope This Helps
1.06? Where did that come from? As far as I'm aware at least the bootloader only goes up to 0.93.1 which is prob rootable and S-Offable. If you do have a stupid bootloader, just use an RUU then root but I doubt you will have to worry about it. You will be fine. All you need to do is you can update from Eclair to Froyo and then root, it does not matter at all. Also, when I got my phone with Eclair, it came with bootloader 0.80.
You are worrying for no reason. All you need is to just download Unrevoked, the lastest one (if that doesn't work get the previous version). Don't forget the drivers either if your on Windows
1.06 bootloaders are only on CDMA Desires, not GSM. So far, all GSM Desires are rootable.
Is there a way to root with a 1.06 bootloader?
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Not yet. Follow Unrevoked's site, they'll put up an update if possible.
seclm193 said:
Is there a way to root with a 1.06 bootloader?
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That's my fear that I could get a Desire Phone from the stock that has this 1.06 bootloader. I read about it in some other forums that Desires are delivered with this newer bootloader, maybe htc did that to prevent (for a while) such rooting and flashing custom roms?
My Desire is on way now, hope I will get a rootable device tomorrow. As far as I know, I need to do the following
1. Unrevoke the Desire with linux or windows. I use linux.
2. Load a custom rom
How can I backup the entire image that comes out of the box before I start to root the desire ?
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frank alias shredman
shredman said:
That's my fear that I could get a Desire Phone from the stock that has this 1.06 bootloader. I read about it in some other forums that Desires are delivered with this newer bootloader, maybe htc did that to prevent (for a while) such rooting and flashing custom roms?
My Desire is on way now, hope I will get a rootable device tomorrow. As far as I know, I need to do the following
1. Unrevoke the Desire with linux or windows. I use linux.
2. Load a custom rom
How can I backup the entire image that comes out of the box before I start to root the desire ?
Regards
frank alias shredman
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You don't need to worry to receive CMDA Desire with 1.06 unless you are from the USA If you are from Europe you should deffinitely be ok
And you don't need to backup too, you can later flash official RUUs, the original Desire firmware...you can however use the nandroid backup once you root your phone, to backup your current rom if you deceide to test a new one
I'm relieved to hear that. I've only one question about the roms. I want to flash a fast and stable rom that don't need app2sd to move application to the sd card. I think it's integrated in rom version > 2.1 (froyo) ?
Regards
Frank
cyanogen cm7
but im with rcmixs v07.
shredman said:
I'm relieved to hear that. I've only one question about the roms. I want to flash a fast and stable rom that don't need app2sd to move application to the sd card. I think it's integrated in rom version > 2.1 (froyo) ?
Regards
Frank
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IMO, you shouldn't even be thinking about rooting until you know what you're doing. Sounds like you don't know a lot about Android at present so read a lot and ONLY ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU CAN'T FIND AN ANSWER. Chances are everything you will need to ask has already been answered
Just enjoy the phone first and worry about the rest later
Help, the phone is now in bootloop ???
What a damn ****. Got my phone, rooted it with linux and the first problem is that nandroid backup is not starting. I startet it manual, then backup the phone and now it wont start anymore. The phone is in a boot loop. What a fu...
Here the data of my desire.
Bravo PVT4 Ship S-On
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
Touch Panel-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
AUG 10 2010
I believe that I got one from this new hardware revision that is not rootable. I'm really pissed of now, what can I do. I don't know how I can recover it to shipped off version. Hope I can recover it to send it back. What is wrong with this thing?
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Frank
I have the same HBoot and am rooted
You've not got full root or else it would be S-Off. Have you flashed a recovery? Easiest way to get a nandroid back up. Either AmonRa 2.0.1 or CWM 2.5.1.8 (I think, other earlier version don't work with your HBoot, and stay away from 3.0.0.5 for now). Then you need to alpharev to get S-Off. Troll the forum you can find all this info, but you do have to go cautiously with this HBoot, only specific methods work imo.
AmonRa 2.0.1 | PVT4 40000 S-Off Alpharev 1.8| HBoot 0.93.1000 | Radio 5.17.05.08 | LeeDroid 3.0.2 (A2SD) | HTC Desire A8181 | UOT Kitchen Mods
Hi ghalalb,
now, I successful restored the nandroid backup with the installed clockwork mod 2.5.0.7. Vol - and Powerbutton, switch to Recovery, then clockwork mod came up .. restore, reboot, ok.
The Desire is alive. Is it real rooted (or not ) ? Thats the question ? The supervisor icon is available. First, I saved the content from the original sd card with (clockwork mod an backups), then partitioned the card with gparted to 2,2 GB fat32, 1,5 ext4 and restored the content back to the fat32 partition.
What now ? Is it not possible to flash a custom rom like clock hd-v10 with the installed clockwork mod ? Do I need to change the clockwork mod with AmonRa 2.0.1 ? The nandroid backups are not compatible with the AmonRa tool !
If something goes wrong, a restore of the old clockwork mod backups is not possible. I don't know what I have to do now. I don't want to make a mistake that is not reversible.
Regards
Frank
Hi Frank
You seem to be confusing your self as you don’t really know much about what your getting your self into. If you root your device with unrEVOked it should by default install clockwork recovery, once this is installed you don’t need Amon RA as a recovery as clockwork does the same thing and it is merely a matter of preference. Clockwork recovery backups cant be restored with Amon RA and vice versa. I am using clockwork recovery and I flash a new ROM every 3 to 4 days just to try different things and to see which ROM does what I need it to do. I usually end up back on ReflexTSense as I feel this ROM suits my user needs.
You seem to be getting used to using recovery and flashing ROM’s, you can use clockwork to flash any ROM. You have partitioned your card correctly and for apps to SD so now all you need to do is flash a ROM.
I recommend you try AuraxTSense as a first ROM, its very stable and blazing fast.
After you download the ROM put it in the root of your SD, the root of you SD means, not in a folder just in the SD when you double click on the removeable disc/SD in my computer (don’t know what its called in linux) that is the root of the SD. Once that is does, reboot your device into recovery, make a nandroid backup of your current working ROM.
Then follow the steps
• Go to wipe data/factory reset – select using trackball and let it do its thing
• Go to install zip from sdcard – select using trackball
• Go to toggle signature verification – select using trackball – NOTE: on your screen it should say “Signature Check: Disabled – If its says enabled make sure it says Disabled
• Go to choose zip from sdcard – select using trackball
• Go to AuraxTSense – select using trackball
Now its going to install the ROM and once its done its going to bring you back to a screen that says “reboot system now” - select using trackball. Don’t worry about installing the latest radio as your phone came with it installed.
Your phone should reboot and the ROM will now install and this take 5 to 12 mins before its complete if not just be patient, you know it has been a success when you get the white hTC screen with the with the green hTC logo followed by a white hTC screen with green dots that says “hTC quietly brilliant” in black it will sit on that screen for a while and the screen will go dull. When it is done the screen with go bright and boot into Android.
I hope this helps you to get your 1st ROM installed and running, I’ll check back every now and again and post your progress as I am committing my self to help you through this.
i am also going to buy a Desire, i would like to root it. so any hboot or android version should i be aware of? what should i look out for?
i am new in android so pardon my noob question.
Hi Everyone
I've just received my Desire back from HTC repair. They've put the original Orange RUU back on my phone, so before I root and start flashing roms again, I'm wondering if there's a way I can extract the Orange rom so people here can use it if they have to return their phone under warranty?
I'm a complete beginner at this stuff though, so if someone wants to help out you'll have to talk me through it step by step!
Someone posted a nandroid backup of the Orange rom. It's an old version but still. I don't see the point though because the WWE RUU from HTC is more up to date anyway. You can post your nandroid backup though.
I know the WWE is more up to date, I'm just thinking an actual Orange RUU would be useful for people who need to return their phone to "out of the box" state if they need to unroot and return their phone.
About 2 weeks ago I needed an Orange UK ruu but had to take my chances with the stock WWE rom, luckily I got away with it but if there's a way we can somehow extract one then that'd be helpful for anyone in the same position.
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I know the WWE is more up to date, I'm just thinking an actual Orange RUU would be useful for people who need to return their phone to "out of the box" state if they need to unroot and return their phone.
About 2 weeks ago I needed an Orange UK ruu but had to take my chances with the stock WWE rom, luckily I got away with it but if there's a way we can somehow extract one then that'd be helpful for anyone in the same position.
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^ Exactly!
Hold out hope, give it a couple of days and maybe someone else will know what to do.
In the mean time, root your phone and S-OFF (I think you need to S-OFF to create a NAND backup) when you root, flash the RA-recovery 2.0.1 as that can do NAND backups whereas the CWM that comes with unrevoked doesn't.
I would love a Orange UK RUU. I can't find any on the internet so definitely try and get it
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In the mean time, root your phone and S-OFF (I think you need to S-OFF to create a NAND backup) when you root, flash the RA-recovery 2.0.1 as that can do NAND backups whereas the CWM that comes with unrevoked doesn't.
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Just a quick question before I do that, I thought that if I root then all I'd be able to create is a backup of a rooted rom? Which wouldn't be any good for returning to "out of box state"? Remember, I'm 100% Noob so I may be wrong!
Also, what gets backed up when I do a nand? Shall I perform a factory reset first and then do it? Don't want any of my apps, email, ebay or google account backed up and passed on to everyone who uses my backup! I'm willing to give back to the community but I ain't that generous!
Tajio said:
I would love a Orange UK RUU. I can't find any on the internet so definitely try and get it
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Hopefully we can sort you out with one soon! Watch this space...
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Just a quick question before I do that, I thought that if I root then all I'd be able to create is a backup of a rooted rom? Which wouldn't be any good for returning to "out of box state"? Remember, I'm 100% Noob so I may be wrong!
Also, what gets backed up when I do a nand? Shall I perform a factory reset first and then do it? Don't want any of my apps, email, ebay or google account backed up and passed on to everyone who uses my backup! I'm willing to give back to the community but I ain't that generous!
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I'm entirely unsure. I think there's a way to unroot afterwards for anyone who uses your backup, and I think, yes, it'd be best to do a factory reset before the NAND (can use titanium for your own backup, though, so you can reinstall after the NAND and be back where you were)
Okay...
I used unrevoked to root. Performed a factory reset. Made up a fake google account so I could download rom manager, installed clockwork mod and created a Nand backup from there.
It's 448 MB in size, is that normal? Seems pretty large! In the backup folder there's something called sd-ext.img that is 130mb and another called data.img at 21mb, will that have saved information about my device or apps? Can I delete them or will that cause problems for anyone using my Nand to restore?
All I'm basically asking is, is my personal info, contacts, photos, sms, emails etc safely clear?
If all is good to go does anyone know a good place to upload and host for others to easily download it from? And do I need to upload the whole folder or is there just one specific img that people need?
Edit: Do I need to upload the whole folder or is there just one specific img file that people need?
You're not going to believe this... It's started boot-looping again!
I performed the Nandroid backup, rebooted, it stuck on the HTC logo, I removed the battery to get the SD card out so I could extract the Nand backup, put the battery back in and now can't get any further than HTC logo before it restarts and gets stuck on HTC logo over and over again!
What have I done wrong now? I'm not having much luck with this!
Edit: Had a quick read and found this was quite common when combining unrevoked and rom manager for backups. I restored from the backup I just made and all is working again now, I hope!
ahhh you could've gone 1 step further and posted an unrooted ROM!
you should've S-OFF'd with AlpharevX without setting up the entire phone etc. then made a nand backup of the unrooted ROM. Ahh well lol, I'm on Vodafone anway
bortak said:
ahhh you could've gone 1 step further and posted an unrooted ROM!
you should've S-OFF'd with AlpharevX without setting up the entire phone etc. then made a nand backup of the unrooted ROM. Ahh well lol, I'm on Vodafone anway
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Damn! If only you'd told me that a few hours earlier!
Well, it's too late now, I've already rooted. Is there a way to unroot and then create another backup?
Can anyone tell me which of the files in the backup I need to upload please? Do I need to upload all of them or can I delete sd-ext.img and data.img?
Or if there's a way to unroot and create a backup of an unrooted rom then let me know how to do it please!