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I am wanting to go buy a TP2 from Telus because I've noticed the use of the SIM unit can be unbarred and let me use it on Rogers/Fido. What I want to know though is will the phone work with 3G on the Rogers network if I get it unlocked?
In all probability: No.
The specs list it as only 2100mhz for 3G. Now it is POSSIBLE that Telus asked HTC to disable the bands for Nort American 3G but included them so that they could be re-enabled when Telus gets their 3G network up and running. But there is no evidence to prove this is the case and even if it were, you'd have no way of reenabling those bands yourself as of this moment should they exist.
Time to move to europe I think.
2 things I wish people would give up on:
CDMA and the imperial measurement system
wcdma I agree with. But hey, that's exactly what Telus is kinda doing by implementing 3G.
And the imperial measurement is FUN! Horrible to memorize, but if you're in Canada and the US and you suddenly start using stones as a measurement, people just look at you in such a great confused manner that you can't help but smile
And let's face it. Monitors/TVs are going to continue with the imperial measurement system for a long long time to come... (I can't remember seeing non-imperial measurements for either product here in Mexico where they don't actually know what a foot or inch is as they have been using the metric system for ages)
All I know is a british pint involves more drinking!
I know cdma/tdma is superior in some respects but it's just not portable enough! Which is why businesses refused to use it in Australia and Telstra was forced to give up on it.
Then I move to Canada and after being there for a year they are bringing out this "new" thing called video calling that I had trialled 3 years prior in Aus.
Now 3G in Australia is just as hopeless as here. At least the drug dealers get some good education for measurements. (I'm referring to Ghostface Killahs song Kilo because "all around the world today the kilo is the measure, a kilo is a thousand grams, it's easy to remember", oh that song just makes me laugh.)
You want behind the times? Go to Latin America. 3G isn't fully implemented here yet. And prices are ridiculous. One advantage is that due to a weird economy, there are lots of pre-paid plans. I get great rates on prepaid/pay-as-you-go and if I choose to buy an unlocked version of a phone I don't have to feel too bad about the high price as getting it here would take a lot longer and be just as expensive if not more (the mogul is available right now in stores for around eighty bucks more than I'll be paying for the TP2).
And yes, as far as learning measurements, nothing beats drug trafficking, having a meth lab in your bathtub, and making home made explosives. Good famil fun
danyul said:
Time to move to europe I think.
2 things I wish people would give up on:
CDMA and the imperial measurement system
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Alas, metric will never take over the United States for one reason: it's easier to lose a pound than it is to lose a kilo.
Americans buy more exercise equipment per capita from infomercials than any other country and we do less exercise per capita than anywhere else (except Dubai, those lazy bastards). The economy would collapse while people were wondering why they can only lose 2.3 kilos per week with modern equipment when the old stuff would let them lose 5 pounds. Then depression would set in, everyone would go on an eating binge, planes would be falling from the sky because they couldn't handle the weight, type 2 diabetes would skyrocket and there would be a worldwide insulin shortage while our average age creeps back to preindustrial levels and we start rationing cemetery space.
On the upside, towards the end (of civilization) you could get an amazing deal on an ab blaster 7k.
Hahaha, best explanation ever!
However, if we could get Tony Horton on to metric weights then convince everyone to "bring it" then the world would be a better place!
I could just imagine him saying, "You know you used to lift 20, 25 pounds with P90X, but with P90XM+ you can switch it up to 25 kilos and be more buff than ever before. If you can't lift it to start with don't worry, just bring it and keep on workin'."
But Fortunz, think of it this way. That argument can be used in the opposite way:
"Oh dratz honey, I've gained weight. Oh well, it's than five kilos. I remember last Christmas I had actually gained ten pounds. Gods I love this new metric measurement "
The bigger population would mean charging more for bigger seats in planes, selling more food, and investing in new technology to handle the greater weight
But heck, it's going to stick around for a while now. Tell someone in Canada they're 183cm tall and sooo many people won't have any clue as to what you're talking about. I'm guessing it's the same in the US...
Also think about it, it'd be great for the snack and fatty food industry, people wouldn't feel so bad about eating stuff as it'd be less than half than it used to be numbers wise.
I went to a telus store and asked if the TP2 would work on it (since whenever they cripple a feature they just say it does not exist, like the fm radio that you can activate with a cab in the TP2 or the GPS on my old p4000 which I activated with a hacked rom). The clerk seemed to be a phone geek (finally not someone who knows nothing about phones and actually knows stuff like what bands telus operates on and such) who told me that they had gotten a memo from head office saying that if people ask, the answer was "we do not know yet". Now in a last twist, my buddy Nook found the spec sheet for our chipset and according to this, the chipset is capable of 2100mhz and 1900mhz UMTS (telus's new network). So where does this leave us? Well when they upgrade with the 6.5 rom and the network has been around for a bit, we will have a final answer, but until then we can just hope telus does not give us the shaft!
ps. if you want IR on your TP2 or any other phone, look at my ongoing project in my signature!
The chipset is capable of all bands and various combinations. But the question is which of them it is configured to handle IF there are any more than the one they say is there.
Though the "we do not know yet" comment implies that there is/will be more. But we still don't know. Though if I had to guess I'd say they have the 850+1900+2100 combination which would give them coverage for their own 3G network and would allow basic roaming in Europe, Asia, and some Latin American countries (if I remember correctly). Making it a an almost universal phone. But I have NO idea what would be needed to unlock any hiddenn bands, whether a new ROM, new OS, or to flash the radio.
Well it looks like I'm going to have to wait until near the olympics to get my new phone. It's a shame because my current artemis' battery is dying and there's no way I would give telus money for their current network.
Although if iGo My Way is ported to android then I will switch to that in a heartbeat. I love iGo, just I need a better phone to run it.
You might not have to wait that long...
http://mobilesyrup.com/2009/08/16/t...be-compatible-with-the-canadian-hspa-network/
It specifically mentions the BlackBerry Tour and BlackBerry Storm as being incompatible with its future hspa network. It doesn't specifically mention the Touch Pro2, which isn't much in and of itself, but coupled with the "We don't know yet " comment, it's quite possible the Touch Pro2 will be compatible in the future.
Successfully unlocked my Telus TP2, however, tried a brand new Rogers SIM right out of the package (came with a Blackberry of mine, never used) and it won't register on the network. However, same card in the blackberry reads "Sim not provisioned:2". I think I need to test with a friend's working rogers sim. All my friends are Telus and Bell...
If the TP1 is any indication, the component missing is the 850mhz power AMP
Its not because the chipset can do it that all the required components are soldered on the PCB.
Best thread I followed on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865&page=40
So if you can find a teardown of the Telus TP2 we might find out =)
Well possibly. Except the thing here is that Telus is in a somewhat unique situation since they are CDMA adding/switching to HSPA soon. Meaning that they might have wanted to include the support even if it was locked in the beginning (like those infamous present but unusable gps capabilities on phones in the past). It's not certain. And I think the user on WMExperts who wrote a review for them of the Telus phone disassembled his phone. Maybe someone who knows more about the subject could contact him and ask him about the amp.
Hi guys!
So, AFTER agreeing to buy a T-Mobile TP2 for use up here in Montreal on Rogers, I have now learned that it won't work on Roger's 3G band. Brutal! I thought buying the US T Mobile version would be okay.
Oh well.
Now, I have a real-world usage question, for those of you using this device on the ATT/Rogers network...
Just how bad (or good!) is the speed? I really would love a straight answer here, and I think others would, too.
With my AT&T FUZE, the phone typically jumps from H to 3G; but mostly 3G. Nonetheless, surfing is really hit & miss. Sometimes I will wait soooo long for a message with a 1MB attachment to arrive, but other times, it's pretty quick.
I do like to tether my laptop to the device quite frequently, and when I download a file using Internet Explorer, I will get about 100Kb/s, right up to 250Kb/s. I think I once saw 300KB/S while downloading a large file, but it was rare.
I do get faster throughput when I tether via USB and not though bluetooth, of course.
So, my bottom line question is... If you see a 10MB file that you wish to download while tethering, and you are an AT&T or Rogers user using a T-Mobile version of the phone, then just how good or bad is the transfer rate?
I am really looking for some real-world examples, nothing theoretical.
After all, according to Rogers, their 3G HSDPA network is supposed to support 7.2Mbit/s, but give me a break. File, Save As, has never been that thrilling when I tether with my FUZE. And as I mentioned, could sit forever downloading certain emails, EVEN when I see the 3G logo!
So really, please share your bottom line experience with me... Tethering and/or surfing and downloading attachments with the device.
I know plenty of you are on AT&T and Rogers with a T-Mobile Touch Pro 2, unable to use 3G.
Are you guys dying to give it back, or is it pretty darn decent?
Honest answers would be really appreciated!
Thanks!
No matter what, since you got the TmoUSA version, you're stuck with Edge speeds since it doesn't work on AT&Ts 3G bands.
if you don't like Edge, return the phone & wait for AT&T or Rogers to release it.
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Hi!
I know I am stuck with EDGE speeds, I just wonder what that really means.
The good news is that the seller gave me until tomorrow to back out, with no problem at all.
So, part of me is saying, "BACK OUT! WAIT FOR THE AT&T VERSION WHICH WILL BE OUT SOON!!", but another part is wondering... Hmm... just how slow is the EDGE version after all?
I am anxious for a new phone. (And I already ordered several accessories! )
So, I just really want to know how 'bad' or 'slow' EDGE really is!
I have 24 hours to back out of the purchase! That's why I am posting here...
I paid $415.00 for a locked version. Add a few bucks to unlock it, and it's no real steal.
I wonder just how slow EDGE is, that's all! Let's see what others have to say!
Thanks again!
well if you do stick with it, I only tethered with Edge once or twice & it was unbearable for what i was doing. If you want to use the net though, I suggest getting Opera Mini or trying Opera Mobile 9.7 with the Turbo mode. This will make browsing faster.
here's for Opera Mini & the Jbed Java manager:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567
Wow.
If you say that tethering with EDGE is unbearable, then forget it!
I will not buy the phone, and wait for the AT&T version.
Hopefully a few others will pipe in with some info overnight!
Looks like I think I will cancel the sale.. let's see what anyone else says. Thanks as always!
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Wow.
If you say that tethering with EDGE is unbearable, then forget it!
I will not buy the phone, and wait for the AT&T version.
Hopefully a few others will pipe in with some info overnight!
Looks like I think I will cancel the sale.. let's see what anyone else says. Thanks as always!
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Without going into any technical jargon EDGE is slow and on most networks real world average speeds are between 70 to 150 if lucky. When I was with ATT I used to get anywhere from 1.5Mb to 2.1.
The difference is clear. The rumour mill has it that ATT will release their version of TP2 in October. I'd return that baby and hang in there.
On a personal note: I ditched ATT to T-Mob to get the TP2. For the first time in years I'm able to watch youtube videos with little to no buffering. Also my Slingplayer no longer stutters when in control mode.
Not a lot of word out about AT&T's version lately.
It's worth noting that there have been a lot of news stories in the past week about AT&T's network not being able to handle the load of iPhone data and being very slow.
Another thing to remember here is that AT&T doesn't necessarily mean CDMA+GSM world phone .... you may be looking at the original GSM TP2 device here, with no 3.5mm jack if/when AT&T releases theirs
On a personal note: I ditched ATT to T-Mob to get the TP2. For the first time in years I'm able to watch youtube videos with little to no buffering. Also my Slingplayer no longer stutters when in control mode.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this! I'm using TMO this time around and I love the speed for both YouTube and my Slingplayer.
I'm guessing it's too late now but it really depends on your area. You should have taken your TP2 and tested it whilst in Montreal. Different carriers give different EDGE speeds, just like different carriers give different 3G speeds. Some people get easily over 200kbps. In which case it'd be like early broadband. But yeah, just because someone in Florida gets great speeds and someone in Seattle (random examples unrelated to reported performance or anything like that) gets horrible speeds doesn't mean that your experience will reflect either one.
Oh, and comments on ATT's capabilities to handle the traffic are irrelevant here as the OP is talking about Roger's network in Montreal.
Hi guys,
Thanks to the posts so far, my choice is clear!
I will use my FUZE for the next month or so, and await the AT&T version. It would be the height of impatience for me to buy an EDGE phone, knowing that a 3G version is just around the corner.
Also, based on the pics I have seen online, another HUGE plus on the AT&T version (IF the pics are legit), is that the top row of buttons is like the FUZE... ! @ # $ % ( ), as opposed to a row of numbers. The numbers on the AT&T TP2 are in a keypad formation, which I like more.
And as for the top row of keys, I LOVE LOVE LOVE having symbols there, accessible without hitting the shift key. (IF the spy photos are true).
I cancelled the order!
The only pain in the ass is that I already ordered two cradles, 5 clear screen protectors, 5 mirrored screen protectors, 5 extra magnetic styli, 3 batteries, 2 chargers, and god knows what else! So now I have to STARE at these accessories for a month or two, until I get the AT&T version. What a tease!
Thanks for all your help!
Well, at least the ATT version version seems to be the standard build/body unlike the Tmo version which is slightly longer. That means that the accessories should fit it without any big problems (you'll have a hole for the camera that isn't on the ATT version according to the pics, but hey).
Just set your FUZE to 2G EDGE only and see how it is for yourself.
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Just set your FUZE to 2G EDGE only and see how it is for yourself.
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Yes, I thought about doing that, but I wasn't sure how to definitively set this up. Despite many years of purchasing, upgrading, flashing, cooking, and tweaking these devices, I am still a little unsure how to definitively go into each of the various modes/bands (2G/2.5G/3G) and whether or not it would be an accurate test/assessment.
I figured it would be best to get people's advice who have actually tried tethering while on AT&T and Rogers.
Settings>Phone>Band>Select Network>GSM (or something like that)
I did the same mistake.. I bought the Telus version and unlocked it. I thought that I can live without the 3G because I don't browse much. I later realised that the EDGE speed isn't enough for the music streaming I usually do. I really love the phone but I'm thinking about selling it.. I bearly used it for a couple hours and put it back in its box. Still unsure of what I'm gonna do. But my guess is if your lucky enough to be able to back out, send it back. I had to pay $500 + $25 for unlocking. Probably not gonna sell for that much and I only got to enjoy it for an hour or too
Edit: BTW the EDGE speeds ranged from 150-230 kbits/sec which is about 20-30 KB/s when downloading compared to 350-400KB/s when downloading on my Diamond on 3G.
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I did the same mistake.. I bought the Telus version and unlocked it. I thought that I can live without the 3G because I don't browse much.... BTW the EDGE speeds ranged from 150-230 kbits/sec which is about 20-30 KB/s when downloading compared to 350-400KB/s when downloading on my Diamond on 3G.
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WOW, that is exactly the answer I was looking for (or should I say, NOT looking for!)
Sorry to hear about your situation. Not cool, of course.
I did get my money back and was able to back out, no questions asked.
Downloaded at 30 KB/s is brutal. I know you are not the only one to make this mistake.
All I know is that I hope Rogers/AT&T really come out with their own version... because otherwise, I'll have tons of accessories to sell!!
Michael_514 said:
WOW, that is exactly the answer I was looking for (or should I say, NOT looking for!)
Sorry to hear about your situation. Not cool, of course.
I did get my money back and was able to back out, no questions asked.
Downloaded at 30 KB/s is brutal. I know you are not the only one to make this mistake.
All I know is that I hope Rogers/AT&T really come out with their own version... because otherwise, I'll have tons of accessories to sell!!
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Lol yeah I hope a 3G version does come out. I use the pro2 from time to time I love the RAM, keyboard and screen side of the phone but when I'm fed up with EDGE I use the Diamond. I must say though that if you need 3G for browsing primarily, the speeds are good enough especially on Opera (thumbs up for Opera). When it comes to streaming its so so..
I say if you can hold back, wait for a 3G version so you dont regret anything.
Good luck buddy.
|Does anyone know if the very useful tell me service will be availbale outside the USA, the ability to say "find Pizza" or whatever and be returned search results would be great in other countries as well, particularly if it worked better with non US accents than Googles version of the same!
Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
Nobody promissed me MMS would work on another carrier like an MVNO, but the dishonesty is really getting to me. I could have picked up a Titan II and this would be a non issue. Nobody promissed me it would get 8 when I bought it and I could care less. The lack of honesty from Nokia, has a very patient customer looking for the exit. I may be selling my phone here real soon if something does not change. I am definately uncertain how I will look at Nokia in the future. Wife has a 710 (No network setup) and between the Radar and 710... at this moment I am leaning back to the Radar as a better phone. I have always been an HTC user and the Lumia 900 was the first Nokia I have had in a very long time. This should not be a WP7 bashing thread but I am sure that will rear its ugly head... just wanted to voice an honest issue with integrity.
Gave up and posted on CL
The majority of those who are b1tching against MS and Nokia, like me, are in fact people who would very, very like to see the blossoming of WP. Yet, we were left off the bus. Those who have left the bus for real, they never looked back and never complained (because they couldn't care less). I had sided with WP because it was different until the calendar hit 6/20/12. I had been all excited about the L900 which would shadow the hateful iPhone and fragmented Android yet I, and others, were given a middle finger by MS. Nokia's comfort stick just isn't enough although their hardwares are beautifully crafted and their free navigation is superb.
WP7.5, smoked ~100k (or 10k?) devices iPhone and Android combined, before running out of gas and stalled :crying:
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Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
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Wrote this big long thing, but ultimately you are missing the point and going down that road of get left off a bus that has not even arrived. If you can't smoke an Andriod user or an iPhone... that would be like admitting you ride in a wheelchair and only say your name... "Timmy"
Those that are jumping ship because they feel slighted by WP8 vs. WP7., were never on board in the first place. It's called progress. And I look forward to getting my first WP8, after I grow tired of my L900. Which will be well after November 2012.
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Those that are jumping ship because they feel slighted by WP8 vs. WP7., were never on board in the first place. It's called progress. And I look forward to getting my first WP8, after I grow tired of my L900. Which will be well after November 2012.
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Ha ha exactly! I am just trying to get a Titan II... they have a network setup app... you can get it unlocked and damn that 16MP cam is calling me photosynth outta be fantastic with that. The Lumia 900 is a fantastic phone and my gripe is with the honesty of support.
My wife has went through two devices and she was finally fed up with the phone when it completly stopped cellular and data transmission today, she went a picked up an iphone today for $35 brand new from ATT. Nokia really needs to get this network issue under control, how can u expect to please customers when the phone doesnt work. Sometimes I miss my DVP.
I may be looking at Samsung or Lenovo next if Nokia doesnt get their act together seriously
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My wife has went through two devices and she was finally fed up with the phone when it completly stopped cellular and data transmission today, she went a picked up an iphone today for $35 brand new from ATT. Nokia really needs to get this network issue under control, how can u expect to please customers when the phone doesnt work. Sometimes I miss my DVP.
I may be looking at Samsung or Lenovo next if Nokia doesnt get their act together seriously
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this is probably stupid, but, what network issue?
People need to chill a bit. Everyone getting all butthurt over not getting wp8 or because of some hardware issues like Nokia is the only company that has these problems.
Plenty of people with iPhones also have hardware issues, battery problems etc. Apple announces new software for the iPhone and intentionally leaves stuff out of the older phones to force people to upgrade to get the new features knowing damn well they will work on older phones. Siri is a perfect example, it will completely run on an iPhone 4 without issue, Apple left it out on purpose so all the fanboys will go and upgrade.
Took a trip to Atlanta and had some data issues here or there depending on where I was like any other wireless phone. I live in Phoenix and know just about all the dead spots and how the phone will behave, but for the most part.. in Phoenix, you turn on data you get data and the speed is almost always decent. The Lumia is bar far the best phone... as a phone I have ever had!
I want the network setup app.
I was also active on the Nokia support forum for the missing network setup app. This has nothing to do with wp8. Nokia refuses to release the Network Setup app in North America. On the support forum, the first said it was coming last month. Then soon. Then were quiet for a long time. Another moderator stepped in and said the issue was LTE which other people explained mvnos didn't use LTE and the network setup app worked before they pulled it.
Today, the moderator informed the thread that Nokia is not there to support, that's our job (on Nokia's support forum at least).
There has been talk about legal action against Nokia because they told people, myself included, that the ability to set MMS settings would come soon. Those people kept or bought the phone under false statements made by Nokia. However, Nokia was very quick to censor those posts.
I do think we need to have everyone who wants the Network Setup app to flood Nokia on twitter demanding them release the app.
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Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
Nobody promissed me MMS would work on another carrier like an MVNO, but the dishonesty is really getting to me. I could have picked up a Titan II and this would be a non issue. Nobody promissed me it would get 8 when I bought it and I could care less. The lack of honesty from Nokia, has a very patient customer looking for the exit. I may be selling my phone here real soon if something does not change. I am definately uncertain how I will look at Nokia in the future. Wife has a 710 (No network setup) and between the Radar and 710... at this moment I am leaning back to the Radar as a better phone. I have always been an HTC user and the Lumia 900 was the first Nokia I have had in a very long time. This should not be a WP7 bashing thread but I am sure that will rear its ugly head... just wanted to voice an honest issue with integrity.
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alodar1 said:
this is probably stupid, but, what network issue?
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My wife had no cellular or data on her device, sim card was just fine. @ devices same problems. Im an early adopter and had the first batch of 900's and we had a serious data issue, my wife bought the device at least 2 months after the release and still had cellular and data issues. I still get time from time where mines loses data when it says I have 1 or 2 bars in 4G
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My wife had no cellular or data on her device, sim card was just fine. @ devices same problems. Im an early adopter and had the first batch of 900's and we had a serious data issue, my wife bought the device at least 2 months after the release and still had cellular and data issues. I still get time from time where mines loses data when it says I have 1 or 2 bars in 4G
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So the update that Nokia rolled out the first week after launch, didn't fix the data issue? Sorry to hear that.
I got mine 2 days after it was launched and still like it as much.
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I was also active on the Nokia support forum for the missing network setup app. This has nothing to do with wp8. Nokia refuses to release the Network Setup app in North America. On the support forum, the first said it was coming last month. Then soon. Then were quiet for a long time. Another moderator stepped in and said the issue was LTE which other people explained mvnos didn't use LTE and the network setup app worked before they pulled it.
Today, the moderator informed the thread that Nokia is not there to support, that's our job (on Nokia's support forum at least).
There has been talk about legal action against Nokia because they told people, myself included, that the ability to set MMS settings would come soon. Those people kept or bought the phone under false statements made by Nokia. However, Nokia was very quick to censor those posts.
I do think we need to have everyone who wants the Network Setup app to flood Nokia on twitter demanding them release the app.
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Hey I'm on that forum netconcepts ha ha. I am with ya buddy, and calling support every once in a while... I will keep buggin em till I sell the L900!... or if the miraculously fix it by giving us what we need I will be happy... very happy!!!! AND KEEP IT!
awagner said:
Ha ha exactly! I am just trying to get a Titan II... they have a network setup app... you can get it unlocked and damn that 16MP cam is calling me photosynth outta be fantastic with that. The Lumia 900 is a fantastic phone and my gripe is with the honesty of support.
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Goodluck with that, Connection set-up only has settings for at&t in its database, You will have to manually input APN settings for your 3G to work but wont be able to send or receive MMS, Only way around it is a Stock ROM for the Titan 2. :fingers-crossed:
Hmm... so you are saying even if the phone is unlocked.. with a t-mobile sim connection setup will not recognize t-mobile? I still have my account open with them. It recogized t-mobile in the past... or are you saying becuase it's a Titan 2 it won't?
I bought an unlocked Titan 2 for use in UK, Had to add my own APN to get 3G to work, No way I could get MMS to work as there are no options to add settings, Connection set-up had no information in its database for settings, You may well be lucky and find it has the US settings for networks over there but I doubt it, Check the Titan (2011) Forum and there are a couple of threads to check out there,
charlyee said:
So the update that Nokia rolled out the first week after launch, didn't fix the data issue? Sorry to hear that.
I got mine 2 days after it was launched and still like it as much.
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Not on my wifes device it was up to date.
I don't think what happend to you will necc... happen to me. I have used custom and stock roms for some time now and have yet to have an issue with connection setup finding TMOUS, but you could be right as I have never had a Titan II before.
Was just reading through the posts on the missing network setup and it makes me sick to see L800 and L710's are given the same answer as the L900 "Network Setup not being available in regions where the phone is branded" That is just plain wrong... that is why this thread has nothing to do with hardware. It's the support coming out of Nokia is just wrong on this issue... flat out!
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/02/and...n-the-latest-edition-of-entertainment-weekly/
Per this article, folks at "Mashable" uncovered a working cell phone with a T-Mobile sim in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly meant to be a high-tech ad for the CW displaying live Tweets and crap like that. I was wondering if the inner parts were combined with another cheapo ABO Android phone, if this could be a working cell phone with 3G data and all? Or, if one could simply remove the T-Mobile sim and stick it in their GSM Nexus if they'd get working data/calls?
There are 1000 copies of the magazine scattered around LA and NY. I might try to search for one tomorrow when I'm in the city. If anyone sees one, picks it up, and sticks the sim in their GNex, let me know how it goes. Who knows how long the sim would be good for, or if it'll even work, but it might be worth trying, no?
npro1464 said:
http://phandroid.com/2012/10/02/and...n-the-latest-edition-of-entertainment-weekly/
Per this article, folks at "Mashable" uncovered a working cell phone with a T-Mobile sim in the latest issue of Entertainment Weekly meant to be a high-tech ad for the CW displaying live Tweets and crap like that. I was wondering if the inner parts were combined with another cheapo ABO Android phone, if this could be a working cell phone with 3G data and all? Or, if one could simply remove the T-Mobile sim and stick it in their GSM Nexus if they'd get working data/calls?
There are 1000 copies of the magazine scattered around LA and NY. I might try to search for one tomorrow when I'm in the city. If anyone sees one, picks it up, and sticks the sim in their GNex, let me know how it goes. Who knows how long the sim would be good for, or if it'll even work, but it might be worth trying, no?
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it's a funny idea. i'll try to bring one for me!
Did you read the original Mashable article? You CAN make phone calls and use data on it. It's a real smartphone
It's probably using a prepaid TMo SIM with a month's worth of credit in it.
The 2 people in the Mashable vid were horrible! I was so angry listening to them talk.
It was only sent to subscribers, in the only two cities that "really matter", New York City and Los Angeles. Same as it was for that Esquire magazine e-ink cover and the CNN video ad which used a simple video player device with a small screen.
The CNN one was quickly hacked to play other videos. Wasn't much to do with the Esquire cover since it was made of fixed elements like a cheap LCD game toy.
The phone appears to be the guts of an Abo 810. Pretty junky little phone but what? It supports JAVA apps?
Why can't I have that on my Epic 4g? Would be nice to remotely access my printer's built in server from my phone but I can't because the phone OS built on JAVA doesn't have a full JRE, but apparently the Chinese came up with one.
I doubt much will be done with hacking those magazine phones with only 1,000 of them out there and likely the majority of them will get tossed in the trash within the next week or two.