Possible to HardSPL from Android? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

Hello all,
I have a kaiser that I installed Android on nand. Now, the phone will not power on when the power button is pushed after pulling the battery. When the USB cable is plugged in, a white screen flashes 10 seconds later, and it sometimes boots to android.
When I pull the battery and hold the camera button (either pushing the power button or inserting the USB cable), the phone does nothing.
If it boots to android, is it possible to hardspl from android, since I can't get to the bootloader?
Thanks

If you cannot use the power button to turn on the phone, here's what I would do:
1. get a copy of scooter1556's newest kernel with his copy of ATools from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1152219
It delegates an extra 20mb from the /data partition and REALLY smoothes out the performance and makes it REALLY stable.
2. Using ATools, assign a different button for power, wether it be the "end call" button or some other button not used by android (the "soft" buttons are unused but I assign them to "vol down" and "vol up", it's your choice). Make sure you DO NOT adjust the /system-/data slider as this will really mess up the /cache partition. Follow ALL the instructions at http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/androidhtc/wiki/HowToInstallWithAtoolsNand
Again, disregard anything to do with adjusting /system or /data partitions. You get 91mb of data with this kernel, more than enough.
3.Once everything is in place (KAISIMG.NBH, andboot folder, installseq file),insert the SD card into your phone. Here is where it will get tricky. Hold the camera button and insert the USB charger. Hold the button until the phone screen flashes. If this does not force the bootloader, just hit the reset button with the stylus (on the bottom just next to the USB port, above and to the right).
If this procedure doesn't work, IDK which direction to point you other than finding another kaiser on [email protected] or something to use for parts and have someone fix yours or fix it yourself.

I think the issue is quite simple. Your battery is completly empty. Plug in the charger, the phone will flash, let it be, and wait about 10 minutes. IF the charging led is on then, power the kaiser and let it charge all the way.

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Boot problems - can't get to Tricolor, but boots to Android

Hello all,
I've searched and found some things, but nothing that matches my problem.
HTC Kaiser, branded Swisscom. HardSPL, I don't remember the version. Trying to get to tricolor screen, no key combo works. Camera+reset w/stylus, camera+power, even the two soft keys to reinstall the rom in memory.
After pulling the battery (and waiting more than 5 minutes) and inserting again, pushing the power button turns on the green LED, but goes no further, even after waiting up to 10 minutes. Pulling the battery, then plugging in the USB charger (without presses the power button) will flash a white screen after 7 seconds, then a pause of another 10 seconds, then the phone boots in to Android (again, without pushing the power button, just plugging in the USB cable.
Once in Android, everything works (except the factory reset, it just hangs forever). I need to install WM 6.5 ROM.
Tried the KAISDIAG.NBH and the 329 HardSPL recovery, but no reaction and still can't get to the tricolor.
One last piece of information, when I plug in the USB data cable, the phone flashes the "USB connected" message, and then repeatedly flashes it again every 3 seconds. The computer makes the USB connected sound, but no communication and the KaiserCustomRUU.exe can't see the phone.
Any suggestions to get to the tricolor? It unusual to turn on the phone by just plugging in the USB cable.
Thank you and great work.
Try power+camera+stylus pressing the reset.
A while back the charging behaviour was changed, so that now plugging in a charger, or usb, boots the phone, ( previously we could not charge if it was switched off).
Your problem of `losing` the bootloader has been seen before, but is rare, and seems to have no definite cause, the last time I remember seeing it turned out to be a faulty camera button.
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Thanks and one more question
Thanks Zenity.
I'll continue working on it. One quick question, is there a command in Android to force a hard reset or to the boot loader?
Camera Button
Ok, after searching more (due to Zenity's suggestion) and reading other threads, I don't think it's a faulty (Fawlty?) camera button.
Somehow, the phone takes along time to boot, and must use some info from the bootloader, as it loads Android.
But all attempts to get into the bootloader fail. I can't establish communication by USB, but I think I will focus my efforts there. I've pushed and help all the buttons in different combinations for too long.
I'll let you know, and thanks again!
Ok, done some research into way to detect that the camera button is functioning, ( since this button is vital in getting the bootloader), no luck yet, but research continues, looking at remapping the camera button using atools, just so i can get a response of some sort, ( normally the camera button does nothing in android, it's unmapped).
Edit: nope, atools won't help, won't let me remap the camera button.
Atools-keymapper remap the key only in the android GUI not in kernel so any change doesn't effect directly the kernel.
Yeah, realised that, just thought there might have been an easy way of diagnosing the camera button, to see if it was at least functioning, but if it's not enabled at kernel level then it will be difficult to test without disassembly and getting a meter on it.
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Update - Android.process.acore
Hey all, still trying to connect by USB to use the CustomRUU tool. Now when I plug in the USB, I get a repeating 'Process android.process.acore has stopped etc".
when I click force close, it pops up again and again.
Pulled the battery, and rebooted. Now it boots repeatedly, it shows the splash screen, right when it should go to the Android home screen, it reboots.
Any ideas? Thank you!
probable that the FC and subsequent reboot corrupted the data partition, which is known to happen when the device shuts down unexpectedly.
You can try a 'fix permissions', and 'clear dalvik cache', but normally it takes a wipe and re-install of the system, you may get away with not clearing data, but it's often safer to go for the full wipe of system and data.

[Q] Backing up a broken phone

I just dropped my phone and the screen has come completely out of its housing. The phone still powers up, but the screen does not work at all. My question is, is it possible with a rooted phone(which mine is) to make a backup through clockworkmod without the screen on? Thanks!
Sure,
-With the phone off, hold the volume down button and press the power button till it turns on (1-2 sec). This brings up your HBOOT screen (or would if it was on).
-Wait for 15 seconds (this allows it to check for the PBIMG that should NOT be on your SD)
-Press the volume down button once then the power button once (this selects RECOVERY and reboots into it).
-Wait 20 seconds (gives time to bring up recovery menu)
-Press volume down 5 times then power once (selects "backup and restore")
-Press power button again (selects "backup")
-Leave phone for AT LEAST 10 minutes.
-Pull your SD and see if there is a backup file in your clockwork/ folder with the current date on it. BAM, you got your backup.
Let me know if that works for you
Are you able to see anything on your display or is the touchscreen portion not working?
If the screen does not work at all (no video) you are SOL. To do what TheAtheistReverend suggested you have to have video on the display.
I found a backup from MIUI which was really all I needed. Thanks for the help though, hopefully it will help someone else.

Broken display, need to access storage from computer

Hi all, my S3's display shattered and the touchscreen doesn't work, and I can't see anything. I need to get the files on it onto my computer, but I have a lockscreen enabled so I'd have to unlock my phone for my computer to mount it. Obviously that isn't possible since the screen is broken.
I do have ADB enabled (I think/hope, i know I used titanium so I'm pretty sure I enabled it), so is there any way I can access it through there? I don't need my custom rom intact, so I could possibly wipe my phone from recovery, and then it should automount on a fresh boot. Could someone provide cwm instructions for me? I have the latest version installed, but without the display I don't know what to press. Something like "volume down, volume down, power button, volume down, etc" would really help.
many thanks
It's
Down
Down
Power
Down
Down
Down
Down
Down
Down
Down
Power (this is the factory reset)
Wait a few seconds, then Power (reboot)
So Down x2, Power, Down x7, Power, wait about 10 seconds, Power
Good Luck

Just another person who has Hard Bricked his M8

Hello Everyone
TL;DR Screen doesn't come on at all, battery led only flashes while it is rebooting (More details below), and When plugged in to my windows pc, a bunch of "Local Disk Found" pop up, some of the volumes I can access, most I cannot.
I have searched and searched the internet the past 24 for solutions, and have yet to find one. So imma walk you through what led up to the issue, as well what solutions I have tried.
Yesterday while I was trying to update my rom, I ended up getting stuck in what I thought was a boot loop. I then decided to hard reset my phone and go into recovery in hope to try to reinstall the rom. To my surprise, I could not access the internal sd card in the phone. Data was unmounted in the "Mount" settings and I could not what so ever remount it. After this I tried to side load it, but to no avail.
In response to all my attempts to fix the phone at that point, in frustration, I just said "**** it" and went into factory reset in the bootloader. This is where the hard brick happened. At this point, the screen would not come one, and the battery led was not lit when plugged in. I tried letting my phone charge over night and then, tried the "Battery Recalibrate method". I then tried the "Hold Pwr + Volume up for 10 seconds, then Power + volume Down until you access the bootloader"
After that, I then thought that the firmware was corrupted, so I tried to see if I could push an img to the phone, however fastboot does not see the device. I tried RUU, it does not see the device. I tried the HTC Unbrick method by Dexter that required me to install ubuntu and do some things in terminal, that also did not find the device. And here I am stuck. One thing unique to my situation that I have yet seen reported in the countless threads I have searched, is that when I plug my phone to my pc, a large amount of disk drives are found. Most of them are not accessible, but there are a couple that I can go in and see files for. Windows asks me if I want to format the ones I can't access. When hooked to my pc, I tried the the Power + volume button combinations, the only thing that seems to happen off of this is that my phone seems to reboots, and the battery indicator briefly shows.
Anyways, this is all I can remember. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I don't really think it is a hardware related issue since my phone does somewhat boot. However it seems it can't get to a bootloader what so ever.
Try holding power and vol up for a long time, like a minute or more. Try with and without charger attached, and after sitting on charger overnight.
If the bootloader is intact, the phone is likely not truly bricked (recoverable). And I don't see how you could have damaged hboot by the actions you mentioned.
What is the phone's original CID (carrier version) and are you s-on or s-off?
redpoint73 said:
Try holding power and vol up for a long time, like a minute or more. Try with and without charger attached, and after sitting on charger overnight.
If the bootloader is intact, the phone is likely not truly bricked (recoverable). And I don't see how you could have damaged hboot by the actions you mentioned.
What is the phone's original CID (carrier version) and are you s-on or s-off?
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Verizon is the carrier version, and I am s-off.
Held vol + up for 5 minutes both with and without the charger. One time with the charger into my computer, and another into the wall. When it was in my pc, I can tell its doing nothing but rebooting over and over by the notification sound, and the constant "Found new disk" notifications I got. However still no luck, no screen turns on, no sign of hboot. I'm hoping to have some luck after leaving it on charge overnight and trying again.
TheBizkit said:
Held vol + up for 5 minutes both with and without the charger. One time with the charger into my computer, and another into the wall. When it was in my pc, I can tell its doing nothing but rebooting over and over by the notification sound, and the constant "Found new disk" notifications I got. However still no luck, no screen turns on, no sign of hboot. I'm hoping to have some luck after leaving it on charge overnight and trying again.
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So still nothing after leaving it on charge overnight and I held vol + up for about 5 minutes. Things seem grim.
I think the proper thing to do when you discovered internal storage was not mountable, would have been to use the TWRP option to format internal storage (in Advanced Wipe options).
But now I'm baffled as to what happened that would have rendered the phone unable to boot into fastboot mode. Fastboot won't recognize the device if you can't boot into fastboot mode, which leaves use kinda stuck.
So you didn't try to flash anything during the course of all this troubleshooting?
What you did - "Hold Pwr + Volume up for 10 seconds, then Power + volume Down until you access the bootloader" is totally wrong
I used to get this bunch of local disk pop-up and this is how I get out the problem
Connect the device to pc, you can hear notification sound on pc that device is connected. Ignore all those bunch of local disk pop-up
Press & hold both power button & volume up button until you hear another notification sound that device is disconnected from PC (that's the indication that device is restarted)
Release both power & volume up button and quickly press & hold volume down button (only this one button)
This should get you on bootloader
redpoint73 said:
I think the proper thing to do when you discovered internal storage was not mountable, would have been to use the TWRP option to format internal storage (in Advanced Wipe options).
But now I'm baffled as to what happened that would have rendered the phone unable to boot into fastboot mode. Fastboot won't recognize the device if you can't boot into fastboot mode, which leaves use kinda stuck.
So you didn't try to flash anything during the course of all this troubleshooting?
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No, nothing was flashed except the original Rom update that got this snowball rolling (Not saying its the roms fault, most likely mine).
ckpv5 said:
What you did - "Hold Pwr + Volume up for 10 seconds, then Power + volume Down until you access the bootloader" is totally wrong
I used to get this bunch of local disk pop-up and this is how I get out the problem
Connect the device to pc, you can hear notification sound on pc that device is connected. Ignore all those bunch of local disk pop-up
Press & hold both power button & volume up button until you hear another notification sound that device is disconnected from PC (that's the indication that device is restarted)
Release both power & volume up button and quickly press & hold volume down button (only this one button)
This should get you on bootloader
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This is the one combination I forgot to mention in the op, sorry for that.
But I have tried this, before and after your post, still no luck.
If it worth mentioning, I can just hold power + down and it still reboots over and over. As well as just power. As a matter of fact, all button combinations reboot the phone over and over.
TheBizkit said:
If it worth mentioning, I can just hold power + down and it still reboots over and over. As well as just power. As a matter of fact, all button combinations reboot the phone over and over.
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I thought the screen was dead? If so, how do you know its rebooting?
redpoint73 said:
I thought the screen was dead? If so, how do you know its rebooting?
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By it constantly connecting and disconnecting from my pc. If that doesn't mean its rebooting, then I guess I'm mistaken.
TheBizkit said:
By it constantly connecting and disconnecting from my pc. If that doesn't mean its rebooting, then I guess I'm mistaken.
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Well, it might mean that.
If it in fact is rebooting over and over on its won, simply holding the vol down button for a long time, should put you into bootloader (on the next reboot "cycle"). Again, assuming it is in fact rebooting, and that bootloader is intact.

replaced power button FLEX cable, and power button doesn't work at all - need help

i have just replaced my screen and battery, after having the randomly reboot loop issue (see my previous post), to find out the FLEX power / volume buttons cable had become torn. so i ordered a new cable, and replaced that. Now, only the volume down button works. Help!
I can get into fastboot / download, by holding down power down, and plugging into my laptop (usually this does a hot-start i like to call it), but cannot figure out how to get into TWRP - which i have installed. (TWRP + rooted + ViperOne).
A friend said my ROM is corrupt, but i don't see how that would affect the buttons not working, before it's even booted up into the ROM. So, i do the aforementioned hot-start with volume down held, which gets me to download mode. I then use ADB from laptop to fastboot reboot bootloader to get to the bootloader
How do i get to recovery with no power button functionality? What might be the issue? Software / hardware? it has been opened, cleaned. Before, the power button worked, even amidst the looping reboot issue.
Does anyone know about the "power pad" - the contacts on the motherboard that you can short circuit to boot? I know it's doable but if i short the wrong contacts it can completely fry the phone.
Thanks!
You haven't finished fixing your hardware issue; software is irrelevant--barking up the wrong tree.
Diagnose, don't guess.
You're on the right track; don't let anyone trip you up.

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