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MS Voice Command... any good?

is Microsoft Voice Command any good?

Voice Command has to be one of the best programs I ever installed. The ability to start and end calls without ever touching the phone (using Bluetooth headset) is excellent. There is support for controlling the media player as well as launching other programs / Web pages.
Now the down side. On the Universal, there are a few issues. First, Voice Command will not work from a bluetooth headset correctly with the screen closed. You have to have the screen open, or in PDA mode for Voice Command to work. Second, there is an issue with Voice Command not showing a contact correctly on request.
Other than those two issues, I am very happy with Voice Command and highly recommend it. For a program that requires no voice training, I think it is very good. The functions are limited but for the price, good stuff.

Queston on Voice Command
Did the latest ROM update fix the issues you highlighted above?

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Celestial said:
Did the latest ROM update fix the issues you highlighted above?
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copying a file into the windows folder fixes the contact showing problem.

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belfast-biker said:
Celestial said:
Did the latest ROM update fix the issues you highlighted above?
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copying a file into the windows folder fixes the contact showing problem.
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Uhm ... which file? thanks ...

Re: Queston on Voice Command
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belfast-biker said:
Celestial said:
Did the latest ROM update fix the issues you highlighted above?
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copying a file into the windows folder fixes the contact showing problem.
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Uhm ... which file? thanks ...
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I can show you the path but you have to choose to walk it.

Re: Queston on Voice Command
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You need to place the "outres.96.dll file" in the "\Windows" folder. Follow this thread to download the file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45221

Re: Queston on Voice Command
belfast-biker said:
fermin said:
belfast-biker said:
Celestial said:
Did the latest ROM update fix the issues you highlighted above?
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copying a file into the windows folder fixes the contact showing problem.
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Uhm ... which file? thanks ...
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I can show you the path but you have to choose to walk it.
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Yes, sensei :lol:

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fermin said:
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You need to place the "outres.96.dll file" in the "\Windows" folder. Follow this thread to download the file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45221
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thx.

devGOD said:
is Microsoft Voice Command any good?
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No.
Well,
1) Speech is very quiet. Too quiet to hear unless you are in a very quiet room. A hack to improve this doesn't make any (noticeable) difference.
2) Speech recognition only works in a quiet room.
3) Don't work unless Exec is in 'phone' mode.
4) Contacts don't display correctly. Copying the res file doesn't work for everyone - including me.
5) Programs supported are not customisable - you have to stick with the shipped Microsoft applications. You cannot replace the Calendar or Media player with ones of your choice (PocketInformant and TCPMP spring to mind.). This is inexcusable.
6) Memory footprint. Large program, especially as 90% of its features are useless to me (see point 5)
In conclusion. I have now uninstalled it.

Its good fun for the show off factor =) and the res fix worked with me.

Hi,
I have played around with it but it's crashes my universal day by day.
Contacts are not shown, ok, but the universal gets so slow and crashes very often.
Other programs could not be started and so on.
I tried to deactivated from crash to crash another program which runs and after I deactivated the Microsoft Voice Command, system gets faster and all my problems has gone.... ;-)
Does anyone know if there will be a new version of this program which will work with WM5?
Erik

ghost said:
Hi,
I have played around with it but it's crashes my universal day by day.
Contacts are not shown, ok, but the universal gets so slow and crashes very often.
Other programs could not be started and so on.
I tried to deactivated from crash to crash another program which runs and after I deactivated the Microsoft Voice Command, system gets faster and all my problems has gone.... ;-)
Does anyone know if there will be a new version of this program which will work with WM5?
Erik
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Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49147&start=25 there's a patch for M$V1.5 for WM5 posted by me there. Fixed all the problems for me, made it louder, clearer and more stable.
Regards.

Some tweaks may solve the problem.
I have a Cingular 8125 with 200Mhz CPU (reportedly running at 180Mhz only).
I use Omapclock to speed up PocketSNES, but it doesn't speed up the keyboard selector at all.
Also tried the Registry trick, but restoring the original Registry after installing Voice Command clears everything, settings, program icon... ... and disable Voice Command.
So it's not a good solution.
Finally tried to tweak the Registry (for generally speeding up WM5).
It's worked so perfectly for me.
The Keyboard Selector menu pops up in 1 second or less, almost instantly.
Before tweaking, even without Voice Command installed, it takes 2 to 4 seconds.
Here are the steps:
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I.
Increase cache: Noticable effect on WM5.01. Use any registry editor:
* Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\GDI\GLYPHCACHE\
* Change 'limit' to 8192 up to 32768
* Close registry editor (Save)
* Soft reset
II.
Disable Animated Menu (I know, doesn't relate much with the KB selector problem, but it speeds up the whole system anyway)
Use Registry Editor:
* HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM\GWE\Menu,
* Change "AniType" from default 6 to 0
III.
Use any add-on that close the programs for real, not just minimize it (SPB Pocket Plus, or PHM Free Utilities, whatever)
IV.
Increase SD card access rate:
Use Registry Editor:
* hklm\drivers\sdcard\clientdrivers\class\mmc_class
* hklm\drivers\sdcard\clientdrivers\class\SDMemory_c lass
Change both BlockTransferSize from 64 to 128 or 256
(I use 256. Don't know if it make the reading/writing process any unstable, but so far no problem for me ever. Plus I have backup, so why worry)
V.
Affects WM5.0 and can increase overall speed up to 20%
Use Registry Editor to change from default 0 to:
* [HKLM\System\StorageManager\FATFS] CacheSize = 4096 EnableCache = 1 * [HKLM\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt] ReplStoreCacheSize = 4096
SOFT RESET
(For me, I did everything before Resetting)
PHM registry Editor can be downloaded from http://www.phm.lu/products
Good luck.
If that does not solve your problem, please tell. Because then I know that I might accidentally did something else that made it work
Chai T

Is there a way to force a carrier name?

I did a search before asking and couldn't find anything (at least in the Hermes forums)...
My phone displays "UMTS Cingular"... is there a way to change it to say something else?

Hi
A small change in the registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\RIL\OperatorNames
Add a string with your operators operatorcode in the Name field, and whatever you like in the String field.

Thanks for that

thanks also for the excellent info but how do u find out the operatorcode of my operator?
im on vodafone uk and my phone displays UMTS vodafone UK.
Any help would be greatly appriciated.
Andy..

as an addendum to your advice... I don't have a " HKLM\Software\Microsoft\RIL\OperatorNames" in my registry

Thank you,
nice tweak.., for all T-Mobile Germany users operatorcode is 26201
or look here http://www.m-99.co.uk/Mobile_Phone_...ork_Codes/service_provider_network_codes.html
z1ppster said:
thanks also for the excellent info but how do u find out the operatorcode of my operator?
im on vodafone uk and my phone displays UMTS vodafone UK.
Any help would be greatly appriciated.
Andy..
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rgreenpc said:
as an addendum to your advice... I don't have a " HKLM\Software\Microsoft\RIL\OperatorNames" in my registry
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Are you sure? Which prog did you use for browsing the registry?
pronor

I have tried two reg editors to be sure - Mobile reg editor I have found to never have an issue...
In my HKLM\Software\Microsoft\RIL\ directory I have APIInfo and lots of folders numbered 0 - 128
If I go up to my HKLM\comm\cellular\ril\eons.cache\ I have an OPL and a PNN dir
Not sure if that could be it ( using WM6 )

Same here, I want to change that and also do not have a " HKLM\Software\Microsoft\RIL\OperatorNames" in my registry. I am using WM6 also.

@rgreenpc and darktiger
You have to create a new directory "OperatorNames" for example using totalcommander.

still not quite right...
The registry entry successfully changes the Operator Name but the "UMTS " string is still inserted before the new operator name
Is there a way to stop this UMTS string from appearing?
Many thanks,
caruthers

you have to change \HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
LongnamePrefix=UMTS
here can you write whatever you want eg. 3G
the Key have to set to 1
Enable3GLongNamePrefix=1

Mosquito said:
you have to change \HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\
LongnamePrefix=UMTS
here can you write whatever you want eg. 3G
the Key have to set to 1
Enable3GLongNamePrefix=1
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I can confirm that this way works. I did this a while back and have had no issues.

That's great - it works perfectly
Many thanks Mosquito and maevro

It used to work for me, and I see the name I have chosen for like 5 secs, but then it switches back to AT&T. Is there something else?

yeah, i tried 3 diff reg editors, phm, ceregedit and one other, never got it to stick once. thats the carrier name. i have however managed to change the 3G name.

add 54 mbps wifi in windows mobile

the setting of WLAN card on windows mobile is fissed with standard b and the maz spedd of wlan is 11 mbps.
how to add max speed of wlan at 54 mbps with standard g mode
edit the register at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS
changes the value of dot11SupportedRateMaskG (standard is 4) to 8 and enjoy xd

I don't have such Registry key.
best regards

funkys said:
I don't have such Registry key.
best regards
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don't worry it's an old fake from wm5 it doesn't change a comma

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS\Dot11SupportedRateMaskG exist

funkys said:
I don't have such Registry key.
best regards
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Does anyone ?

Not sure but wouldn't just going under wireless Lan setting and under the power mode tab and changing it from "default best battery"
to "best performance" improve your wireless speed?

[TWEAK]Make your resistive screen (almost) as good as capacitive screen

Okay, so i've searched all over and i can't seems to find anyone else shared this tips before. My apology if i made a mistake on my searching though
So i picked this up from the X1 thread quite a while ago, can't remember who posted it first. This tweak should make your screen a lot more responsive and you dont need to press the screen hard the whole time to do stuff.
1. Get MS Compact Framework 3.5 Here
2. Get Schaaps Advance Config Tool Here
3. Scroll down to HTC TouchFLo
4. Change the pressure threshold to custom -> Click -> Change the value to 999999999 (nine 9s)
5. Change the finger pressure to 999999999 (nine 9s)
6. Done, soft reset.
Your screen should be (almost) as good as capacitive screen now (except for the multi touch of course)
cheers.
p.s All this was done in stock Touch Pro 2 ROM WWE Asia 1.19.707.2

What I do is go into a registry editor and go to
HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold =65000 (the higher, the more sensitive)
That's good enough for me! But for those who don't like the reg tweaks, it's good that you posted that.

yea, this is for those people who doesn't like dwelling into registry (my kind of people )
enjoy it folks

sumflipnol said:
HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold =65000
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Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61

Mesquire said:
Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61
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am curious of that myself. mine was set to 53 . i took the plunge and set it to 65 and noticed no ill effects so far

Decreasing the value is the way to go . I've got mine working with a value of 0 and screen responsiveness (particularly with on-screen keyboard) is tremendous! No more missed swipes and touches. In fact, the screen is showing up the slowness of the TP2 in certain applications (caches on-screen key presses where program eventually catches up with what you entered).

SC07 TP2 said:
Decreasing the value is the way to go . I've got mine working with a value of 0 and screen responsiveness (particularly with on-screen keyboard) is tremendous! No more missed swipes and touches. In fact, the screen is showing up the slowness of the TP2 in certain applications (caches on-screen key presses where program eventually catches up with what you entered).
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please explain how decreasing the screen's sensitivity increases its responsiveness to touch. the whole concept is counter intuitive.

cirrob said:
please explain how decreasing the screen's sensitivity increases its responsiveness to touch. the whole concept is counter intuitive.
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Weird I know, but I've been always told that closer to 0 is more sensitive.

So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf

EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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Don't be afraid of the registry! I use MobileRegistryEditor. You can edit the registry from your desktop with your phone plugged in via USB. Viewing the registry on a laptop screen vs. a phone IMO helps to eliminate mistakes and is much quicker.

EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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well i tried both settings and i must say that decreasing it to 0 really did increase the sensitivity.
like i said earlier it is counter intuitive, but it is a noticable difference.

EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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EDIT: its start > run > regedit
and the registry key is called "PressureThreshold"
Threshold means "the smallest detectable sensation"
so in fact, the closest the value to "0", the better (or at least that is what makes sense)
BTW, I do not have an HTC phone, nor Windows Mobile phone, .. but i am planing to buy Touch Pro2, so i read this topic, and felt like explaining the whole thing from an "English" point of view, Lol
cheers

wow, now im confused. I've only done the tweak via the advance config,never via registry. Can it be different?
Before i changed it the value of my pressure threshold was 60000 something, i cant remember, while finger pressure was 0. When i had my xperia,none if this value would shows 0. It seems that both of this value changes if you do the screen calibration thing.
oh and happy new years folks

mr_sheen said:
wow, now im confused. I've only done the tweak via the advance config,never via registry. Can it be different?
Before i changed it the value of my pressure threshold was 60000 something, i cant remember, while finger pressure was 0. When i had my xperia,none if this value would shows 0. It seems that both of this value changes if you do the screen calibration thing.
oh and happy new years folks
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It shouldn't make a difference, in the configuration i assume you have to touch the screen so the phone calibrate your threshold right?
so i assume you should touch it "lightly" so the phone recognizes your threshold as light, and eventually be more responsive.
EDIT: i have found this, it is related to Touch Pro, ... I dont know wither it applies to Touch Pro2 or not
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=56412
As i said before, I am just talking common sense, nothing from real experience with the actual device as i do not own one, ... yet
happy holiday season!

is this a 6.5 or a 6.1 tweak?
because with 6.5 I discovered that GWE setting for touch it best set @1 rather than 0. this way the htc drivers are doing the work and not the ms...
as for the biotouch setting to zero, this would be turning the htc driver off and just using the ms driver.
(this is my assumption that the two different sets of drivers conflict)

its different? i did it on stock Touch Pro 2 6.1 ROM. Sorry about the missing info,i'll put it up on the first post.

EVOIXGSR said:
So whats the verdict on if either increasing or decreasing the value increases sensitivity?
Also, I've never messed with my registry on a windows mobile device, and honestly my expirience with it on XP and earlier has been relatively minimal. Are there any toturials on how to open a reg editor in windows mobile? If I rememebr correctly on XP machines you go to start>run>conf
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I'm currently testing the "999999999" and it seems pretty sensitive. Will test on a couple more apps before trying th "0" input.

Mesquire said:
Is that in Decimal Value? Mine says 61
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Sorry for the lack of info! Yes, it's in Decimal Value.
irkan said:
its start > run > CMD
and the registry key is called "PressureThreshold"
Threshold means "the smallest detectable sensation"
so in fact, the closest the value to "0", the better (or at least that is what makes sense)
BTW, I do not have an HTC phone, nor Windows Mobile phone, .. but i am planing to buy Touch Pro2, so i read this topic, and felt like explaining the whole thing from an "English" point of view, Lol
cheers
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Well I found the registry tweak I posted (post2) from a different forum. I found that the stock ROM's settings had the decimal value at 15000. When I brought it up (as the instructions said the higher the better) to 65000, I noticed that screen sensitivity increased.
I'll try "0" later on.
As for the Advanced Config settings, the Pressure Threshold setting in Advanced Config controls the registry setting I posted in post2.
UPDATE: In HKLM\Drivers\Touch Panel\PressureThreshold, in the Decimal Value I tried "0" for 2 hours. I then switched to "100000" for 2 hours. IMO, "100000" was way more sensitive for me; "0" was very resisitive to my motions.

Hmmm ... I have mobile 6.5 wwe t-mobile tp2
Navigate to or search for:
HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/PressureThreshold
and
HKLM/Software/OEM/TFLOSettings/FingerPressure
If you wana test how mobile figures out how to set it ..
goto: settings / system / screen / align screen
and run the alignment test ..
If I PRESS REALLY HARD EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 22
pressurethreshold 48
If I PRESS REALLY SOFT EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 26
pressurethreshold 57
So ...
If I Set BOTH to 10 it should make it harder to push / scroll ???
and I Set BOTH to 100 it should make it easier to push / scroll ???
Because I change them and it doesnt really seem to make a difference
What do you guys get when you run the screen test and let mobile figure it out ?

WarlockW said:
Hmmm ... I have mobile 6.5 wwe t-mobile tp2
Navigate to or search for:
HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/PressureThreshold
and
HKLM/Software/OEM/TFLOSettings/FingerPressure
If you wana test how mobile figures out how to set it ..
goto: settings / system / screen / align screen
and run the alignment test ..
If I PRESS REALLY HARD EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 22
pressurethreshold 48
If I PRESS REALLY SOFT EVERYTIME I get ..
fingerpressure 26
pressurethreshold 57
So ...
If I Set BOTH to 10 it should make it harder to push / scroll ???
and I Set BOTH to 100 it should make it easier to push / scroll ???
Because I change them and it doesnt really seem to make a difference
What do you guys get when you run the screen test and let mobile figure it out ?
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I didn't do a screen test, but for the set both to 10/100:
Make a greater difference. Example: set both to 10. Then for comparison, set both to 10000. With the greater difference between 10 and 10000, you should see a greater difference in the behavior of the screen.
EDIT: I did the "test" for the screen.
Results (hard test):
Finger Pressure: 21
Pressure Threshold: 48
Results (soft test):
Finger Pressure: 24
Pressure Threshold: 54
So I guess, the higher the numbers, the more sensitive it would have to be?

increase call log TPS is this possible?

HI
is it possible to increase the number of entries from the current 300, in the call log ?
If so how?
Thanks
Nolan
Using HTC Touch Pro 2, win mobile 6.1

no ideas ??

nolannolan said:
HI
is it possible to increase the number of entries from the current 300, in the call log ?
If so how?
Thanks
Nolan
Using HTC Touch Pro 2, win mobile 6.1
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The Rhodium Settings Tool has a setting to adjust maximum number of entries in the call log, details and download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549135

max intries call log touch pro 2, using rhodium tool
hi
thanks
the tool only says "max" but what number would that be on a htc touch pro 2 winmo 6.1?
thanks
Nolan

nolannolan said:
hi
thanks
the tool only says "max" but what number would that be on a htc touch pro 2 winmo 6.1?
thanks
Nolan
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No, I honestly don't, and didn't find it in a quick search just now.
Honestly, if you're needing to retain that volume of SMS messages, I would suggest using something like microsoft's free myphone which backs up your messages to the cloud and stores them for you there in bulk, for you to restore to your phone any view there anytime you want, or even view/manage them through a website from any pc. I do this, and only retain whatever sms threads I currently have active and recent, and all the rest I just store there for any future need to refer back to them. The SMS module in WM tends to get less stable the more messages you pack in there, so this is just a good way to keep the phone as lean and efficient as possible
EDIT: please note that myphone does NOT backup MMS, just SMS (and certain other folders as well)

hi
thanks, but its not SMS messages im refferring to but call log (phone calls)
regards nolan

nolannolan said:
hi
thanks, but its not SMS messages im refferring to but call log (phone calls)
regards nolan
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Yes, you're right, and that's what I was originally suggesting that tool for, I got confused with another item I was searching for at the same time, sorry
That tool actually gives the following options for retaining the call log:
5000
10000
20000
30000
40000
50000
Maximum
hope that's enough for you lol

it is enough, but it doesnt work, reality is 300 entries even if i change to a larger number, tool dont change it
Nolan

nolannolan said:
it is enough, but it doesnt work, reality is 300 entries even if i change to a larger number, tool dont change it
Nolan
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Sorry man, I just left mine on maximum, and I guess I never got close to that many.