Turning off background data? Is it good to keep off for battery? I know if its off I can't use market until I turn it back on, but will every else function? Please give pros and cons thanks.
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Background data is needed if you use any widget with updates also. So if you use sayyyy the weather widgets it won't sync, same with email. As far as battery life it will not make too much difference. Most items you use this for are able to be customized to an extended time.
Go in accounts and sync and adjust them. I don't use any facebook twitter or news feeds so I just turn the sync off. It will still update when you open the app.
If you want to save battery life then I suggest turning off Data when you aren't using it. Calls and texts don't use 3/4g so leaving it on only causes the battery to drain because it constantly searches for a signal. Turn data off and hook up to wifi whenever available you'll notice a HUGE difference.
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Background data is needed if you use any widget with updates also. So if you use sayyyy the weather widgets it won't sync, same with email. As far as battery life it will not make too much difference. Most items you use this for are able to be customized to an extended time.
Go in accounts and sync and adjust them. I don't use any facebook twitter or news feeds so I just turn the sync off. It will still update when you open the app.
If you want to save battery life then I suggest turning off Data when you aren't using it. Calls and texts don't use 3/4g so leaving it on only causes the battery to drain because it constantly searches for a signal. Turn data off and hook up to wifi whenever available you'll notice a HUGE difference.
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Thanks man, so if I'm home on wifi with data off will I still get calls and text or no? Cause I use my phone for business and can't miss calls.
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Mobile data has nothing to do with calls or text. It is strictly for internet, market, widgets ect... Today or tonight before bed. Disable data, wifi and gps and leave it unplugged. You'll be amazed at the 5-7% difference. Unless of course you have a wake issue lol.
When I worked at my last job I had no real time to sit on my phone so I walked around with data and gps off unless I needed them and no matter what Rom I flashed I got great battery life.
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If you get emails for work though remember they won't go through. Neither will MMS.
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Mobile data has nothing to do with calls or text. It is strictly for internet, market, widgets ect... Today or tonight before bed. Disable data, wifi and gps and leave it unplugged. You'll be amazed at the 5-7% difference. Unless of course you have a wake issue lol.
When I worked at my last job I had no real time to sit on my phone so I walked around with data and gps off unless I needed them and no matter what Rom I flashed I got great battery life.
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If you get emails for work though remember they won't go through. Neither will MMS.
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Wow I had no idea..thanks. great tip ill be using..once again u guys help me out big time.
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Does anyone know of a good data usage widget for hercules?
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i used this https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog
when i had a limited data plan
since i got unlimited, i totally removed it off my phone
I also use 3G Watchdog.
Works fantastic. Tells me how much data I used today/this week/this month/this cycle, and what I am trending to do for the cycle. You set your bill cycle start date and data cap limit.
I like traffic monitor better than watchdog, its just a widget but it tells youvur data usage on wifi and mobile, even which apps are using data and how much
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.radioopt.widget
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both are good choices, but 3g wathdog is more accurate IMO, it also has backup/restore option so you can continue to monitor your data usage, eve after you wipe and flash to a new ROM
I dont think theres one that auto tracks like the droid phones. All these ones you have to enter in the info
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define auto track, what do you mean by that?
if the apps don't auto track, then you'll never have updated accurate information
so, i've no clue what you are trying to say
data apps
3G Watchdog wasn't tracking any usage for me on this phone(because I'm not using 3G?). I installed one from the market called My Data Manager Free that is ok. It's more basic but seems to do the job. I've only been using it for 2 days, so I don't really know how accurate it is.
*Edit*I re-loaded 3g watchdog this afternoon and it seems to work fine now. Not sure why it didn't work when I loaded it the first time.
3g watchdog ou have to enter your billing cycle so it resets. I was wondering if there was one that jst tracked my data withoit me entering in anything
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Just use the My Account app installed on the phone. Tells you how much data you have used, how many minutes talk time and SMS messages.
I have been experiencing a lot.of issues with any data monitor not working. Any ideas?? Thanks
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I usually have wifi connection ,and rarely need data
but I might need to check emails,browse website and or make/recieve calls through viber every once in a while ,where the wifi is not available ,
so does 200 Mb enough for the usage i mentioned above ?
is there any tips i can do to avoid data usage on the background ,like when the phone on stand by ?what are the apps that contiguously drain the data usage?
will deactivating sync help ?anything else ?
Thanks
you can manually turn data ON/OFF with a widget
that will prevent any unwanted transaction
Yes you will be okay as long as you turn of syncing in settings.. for example Google stance and Facebook email sync while you're on 4g
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Yes that sounds fine for 200mb. Just don't browse like.. videos or something crazy. Just make sure you turn Data off whenever you can. Track your usage hard for the first while to make sure you don't go over.
thank you guys
will turning off syncing be enough to save the data without needing to turn off the 4g data?
because I noticed if i did turn off the 4g data ,i won't be able to receive MMS
one more question
do navigation and the google maps require alot of data usage ?
my advice would be get the 2 gb data package because with the 200 mb u get charged for overages but with the 2 gb and 5 and up u only get throttled i think???????
Also use traffic watch apps like: https://market.android.com/details?...S5yb3lzb2xiZXJnLmFuZHJvaWQuZGF0YWNvdW50ZXIiXQ..
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thank you guys
will turning off syncing be enough to save the data without needing to turn off the 4g data?
because I noticed if i did turn off the 4g data ,i won't be able to receive MMS
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Turning off background sync should be enough.
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one more question
do navigation and the google maps require alot of data usage ?
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Never tried navigation but google maps doesn't require A LOT of data usage (at least to me), but you should be careful with 200mb of data a month...
Especially you are always in the same area then every time you use google maps you accumulate the map tiles you download in cache so that next time you are in the same area google maps doesn't try to download the same area again.
Try using some data monitoring app that tells you how much you used at any time.
I'm not going to recommend any ways of saving you data but i can recommend you an app that I've been using to save me time and effort of toggling the sync and data on and off. Use "llama" and set the settings to your desire.
You can search in the battery life thread for a very good setting for "Wifi connected" and "wifi disconnected"...I'm using it now and it's helping me a lot...getting around 30 hrs battery with moderate usage. I'm connected to a wifi most of the time.
Rooted, but running stock for now. Plan to flash some roms later when I get bored.
Juice defender you can choose to turn off data when screen is off. and or allow only periodic updates. Or you can turn of 3g/4g data any time you have a wifi signal lots of choices to fit your need to minimize data use. Since data usually means battery life you will find many power managment apps will help you.
I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
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I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?
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I have been asking this on Sprint forums for a while, I searched here and didn't really see this issue. It's a pretty concerning issue for me and I'm wondering if it's common because I know it would bother everyone.
My first post was basically saying I wasn't receiving push notifications, after doing some testing I posted this.
Copy/Paste from Sprint forums:
As a follow up:
I have noticed that the data doesn't come through the the 4g is idle.(Zzz)
I tested it with two applications:
Whatsapp, have a friend send me a message with 4g active, message came through. I had the same friend send me one with 4g in idle mode and the message does not come through at all, even if I browse the internet and make 4g idle again, the message will only come through after I open whatsapp again.
Beejive and eBuddy messanging apps: I opened my own account and tested from my PC with the same scenarios as before, I get the same results.
It seems my phone is losing a data connection all together when 4g goes into idle, now this can't be right can it?
Looks like the NS has the same issue:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/70874
This can't be right can it? I mean completely shut off my phones data connection when the 4g radio is sleeping? How does this make sense..
Anyone?
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Kinda ... I believe it still works in the background for any app that might need internet connectivity. The time out sucks cause is so short but it is done, I believe, for the purpose of saving battery, like if no app is in need of data then it shuts down. Also, there are codes to make this time-out take longer to kick in, somewhere buried in these threads.
Thanks for the reply. Yea I saw some options, but raising the time out would probably kill my battery.
For now keeping on 3g seems to be my best bet..
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Usually when a radio goes to sleep there is something called a rx interrupt that will wake it up when there is a packet received. This is based on my limited experience working with radios as an electrical engineering student. I don't know. how the specific wimax radio in this phone works.
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Not sure how it works, but in honesty its very frustrating, the fact that it isn't a bigger deal on here makes me think it doesn't happen to all?
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I hate to bump this again, but are the views people that don't have this issue at all?
I feel like this is a deal breaker
I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol
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I get this all the time. When driving, I like to listen to shoutcast stations.
If I lose signal for more than like 10 seconds, the 4G idles and never reconnects unless I either toggle 4g off/on or tap a shoutcast station to wake the 4g back on. The 3G struggles to reconnect to the station usually and times out.
It is pretty irritating. My best friend always teases me for getting an android phone over his iPhone 4S PO$ on AT&T. lol
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I'm keeping it on 3g right now, that should give you the same speeds of his 4s. I'll turn on 4g when I know I need it. So far 3g hasn't been slow enough for me to even have to turn it on.
I like this phone a lot and considered returning it but there isn't a phone as powerful so I decided to deal with it for now.
I went to sprint but the tech wasn't there, the counter guy tried to tell me it's the same with any 4g phone but I really don't think so. I think people would get rly pissy if messages didn't come in for hours.
I'm going to see the tech and test it with another 4g phone, if it doesn't happen I'll ask him to open a ticket and MAYBE that'll get something done.
there are a few tweaks that you can do in the epst menu that help out with the 4g connection going dormant. let me see if i can find the thread
I looked into setting the "sleep" time to 300 seconds, haven't done it yet but I'd be worried about it sucking my battery too fast.
I just feel it should work in sleep mode and I want to see what other sprint 4g phones do, if it's only with this phone I want to at least try to get it up to Sprint as a bug(event though most likely nothing will happen.
Someone on El13 said they didn't get this behavior in another thread.. I've tested it on stock EG30 and Ek20
Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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Okay, so I'm not crazy. I thought I noticed this on both my OG Epic and the Touch. Mostly for me it manifests in not getting push notifications while on 4G in idle. That's been my main complaint with it. So I mostly don't use it, although I'm rarely anywhere with 4G anyway, so it's irrelevant.
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Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.
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Yep this is issue.. I'm leaving 4g off now and I'm not really bothered by that so it's not that big of a deal.. I was about to return the phone though because i was missing important messages through push notification.
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Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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Can you give me a few examples of push notifications? I want to test this on my Epic Touch. Are G-Talk messages push? Stock email? You have me curious about this now....
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I have not tried gtalk but I think it would have the same issue.
I have tried and all of them fail with the same issue:
Whatsapp
Gmail app (I don't use Samsungs stock email)
Beejive messenger
ebuddy messenger
let me know what you find.. I just can't believe this isn't a big bug - something tells me it might be Samsung's radios.
I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.
Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.
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Yes I have this problem. I also have the same issue with leaving WIFI on all the time. Everything is delayed unless you just used the phone.
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I don't think I have it on wifi. Will test tonight.
John,
Another example of 'push' is using imap with gmail account. I use both k9 and maildroid using the imap connection method. When a message arrives at the google server it should 'push' it to our phones in a short turn around time frame. I've seen this vary from immediate to 45 minutes on the server end. The usage of 'pop' of course is the 'pull' method when polling is necessary.
Bill
jmejiaa said:
I went ahead and changed my idle time to 300... The phone doesn't go to zzz anymore so far so that should let me stay on 4g. That should give me 5 hours of the phone not going to sleep so during a normal day I shouldn't have this issue.. Maybe when I'm sleeping I won't see my notifications I will leave it on for now..
My DL speeds with 4g are like 7-8k so that's MUCh better than 3g for me. Also we'll see about battery drain.
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300 in IdleSleep is actually 5 minutes, not 5 hours (I'm pretty sure the value is in seconds).
That being said, I haven't seen any push notification issues on 4G on EG30 or EL13. I regularly get Gtalk and Gmail notifications all the time while idle on 4G. The only thing that seems slow on push notification is the built in email client. But I'm not sure if that is a client or Hotmail issue. I wonder if your issue is region specific.
From what I read it is minutes.. But that could all be wrong I guess
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On of the top battery eater app - Google+
I've just found that Google+ app was eating most of my phone's battery.
Currently I have FB21 rooted stock rom on my phone and I found that Google+ was the most heavy battery using app whenever the instant upload option is turned on.
Whenever you install the current stock rom (rooted or not), by default, Google+ instant upload option is turned on. So, if you take any pictures or video, Google+ will try to upload all of your pictures and videos in the background.
If you are in the area where the signal is good, the uploading would be finished really quick but you're in the bad reception area, then this process will use most of your battery.
Be ware of this app and you need to check this option is turned on.
How-to enable or disable google+ instant upload:
1. Open Google+
2. Click menu and select settings
3. From Photo settings, check or un-check the 'Turn on Instant Upload'
Depending on your preference, you may keep this option turned on, be sure that you're in good reception area
To avoid battery drain, you may use the batch and bulk 'instant upload' option when your phone is plugged in AC outlet or USB port.
1. Open Google+
2. Click menu and select settings
3. Click on 'Upload now'
I hope this information may extend your battery life a little or more.
Thanks for reading!
i thought this was rather obvious. Any app that has some type of background monitoring/running functions is going to run your battery down. Disable all that superfluous crap, disable any auto update checking or notification checking.
G+ has been a known thing for awhile. Sadly it used to not be as bad when it was first released but it has gotten worse over time. I didn't run it for long on the ICS builds (only cause I didn't run ICS very long) but from what I saw it looked like it was working better there (ie took less battery life)
a, bro...I appreciate you posting this. Sometimes we need to be reminded of stuff like this. Im glad you were thinking of others. Keep up the good work!
kobridge said:
On of the top battery eater app - Google+
I've just found that Google+ app was eating most of my phone's battery.
Currently I have FB21 rooted stock rom on my phone and I found that Google+ was the most heavy battery using app whenever the instant upload option is turned on.
Whenever you install the current stock rom (rooted or not), by default, Google+ instant upload option is turned on. So, if you take any pictures or video, Google+ will try to upload all of your pictures and videos in the background.
If you are in the area where the signal is good, the uploading would be finished really quick but you're in the bad reception area, then this process will use most of your battery.
Be ware of this app and you need to check this option is turned on.
How-to enable or disable google+ instant upload:
1. Open Google+
2. Click menu and select settings
3. From Photo settings, check or un-check the 'Turn on Instant Upload'
Depending on your preference, you may keep this option turned on, be sure that you're in good reception area
To avoid battery drain, you may use the batch and bulk 'instant upload' option when your phone is plugged in AC outlet or USB port.
1. Open Google+
2. Click menu and select settings
3. Click on 'Upload now'
I hope this information may extend your battery life a little or more.
Thanks for reading!
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I believe there is an option to only upload when connected to wifi. This really helps to minimize upload times and allows you to keep this feature.
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It did the same thing on the nexus with ICS. the other battery drainer was Maps.
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It did the same thing on the nexus with ICS. the other battery drainer was Maps.
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I have been deleting or freezing Google+ and Maps on both phones for a while now. Google+ is especially brutal on Nexus ICS ROMs so it may be the same on our ICS ROMs as well
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It did the same thing on the nexus with ICS. the other battery drainer was Maps.
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Do you mean 'location history' in Google maps?
If you mean location history, I see that location history is disabled by default (stock rom).
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I believe there is an option to only upload when connected to wifi. This really helps to minimize upload times and allows you to keep this feature.
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Yes, you are right. Thanks for clarification.
There are two options under 'Turn on Instant Upload'.
- Over Wi-Fi or mobile network
- Over Wi-Fi only
By default over Wi-Fi only is turned on.
I have 4G LTE unlimited grandfather plan on my S3. But as you all know, the battery drain pretty quick with 4G LTE. I cant even last a day with normal usuage. I am on on stock LH1 rooted rom. I've found that turn off data from the notification bar help with the battery tremendously but dont want to miss out important emails when im not near a computer.
What app/widget do you guys use to automatically turn data on and off periodically like let say on for 30 minutes then off for 30 minutes, or off/on permanently via manually override from the user?
I've searched on the market and Google but no luck..
Thanks guys!
I use switchpro widget. It has a data toggle that you can switch on and off as needed.
JuiceDefender claims to be able to do this. You can select how often data is enabled and the duration.
Batteryfu great app and free
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Juicedefender just set it to activate data after you unlock the screen very helpful its under the help tab in the app.
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Juicedefender just set it to activate data after you unlock the screen very helpful its under the help tab in the app.
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thaks. will try it soon
any customized Samsung TW ROM with 15 toggles MOD will have Data On/Off switch.
+1 for recommending Juice Defender. I upgraded to ultimate, wasnt really necassary though you can set schedules for it to sync anywhere from reactivating your data every 5 minutes to once every couple hours and everywhere in between. Can set it to turn off your gps, wifi, blue tooth etc... Just my 2 cents
JuiceDefender is probably your best choice. I've been using it on every Android phone I've had and it gives you a great deal of customization if you upgrade to ultimate.
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I have 4G LTE unlimited grandfather plan on my S3. But as you all know, the battery drain pretty quick with 4G LTE. I cant even last a day with normal usuage. I am on on stock LH1 rooted rom. I've found that turn off data from the notification bar help with the battery tremendously but dont want to miss out important emails when im not near a computer.
What app/widget do you guys use to automatically turn data on and off periodically like let say on for 30 minutes then off for 30 minutes, or off/on permanently via manually override from the user?
I've searched on the market and Google but no luck..
Thanks guys!
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---setting---more----mobile networks---uncheck the first box
xxlikquidxx said:
I have 4G LTE unlimited grandfather plan on my S3. But as you all know, the battery drain pretty quick with 4G LTE. I cant even last a day with normal usuage. I am on on stock LH1 rooted rom. I've found that turn off data from the notification bar help with the battery tremendously but dont want to miss out important emails when im not near a computer.
What app/widget do you guys use to automatically turn data on and off periodically like let say on for 30 minutes then off for 30 minutes, or off/on permanently via manually override from the user?
I've searched on the market and Google but no luck..
Thanks guys!
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You can do that in settings without a third party app.
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---setting---more----mobile networks---uncheck the first box
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That's not what he's asking.
Your answer is juice defender or those types of apps. Like easy battery saver and Green Power.
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been using Juice Defender for a week and it does the job just like how i wanted! Battery life has been increased tremendously!! I love this app! Thanks everyone for the recommendation!