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Alright, so due to Sprint's new policy of premiere customers I won't be able to upgrade this june like I normally would(for 1 year upgrdae)
So i decided to buy a clean ESN HTC EVO Shift 4G via eBay.
My plan was to, buy the evo shift, which I did, and sell my evo on ebay.
but now, maybe I'm just paranoid... but will I be able to activate the Shift when I get it in the mail?
How does that work with sprint? would they not let me? hellpp??
thanks!
Yea you will be able to activate it as long as it has a clean esn
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Yea you will be able to activate it as long as it has a clean esn
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phew, okay. Thank you. I wasn't sure...
You can swap out your phone for the evo shift no problem as long as the esn is clean and the phone is not active on another account. I would wait to make sure. Get the shift running before you sell yours.
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derik123derik123 said:
Alright, so due to Sprint's new policy of premiere customers I won't be able to upgrade this june like I normally would(for 1 year upgrdae)
So i decided to buy a clean ESN HTC EVO Shift 4G via eBay.
My plan was to, buy the evo shift, which I did, and sell my evo on ebay.
but now, maybe I'm just paranoid... but will I be able to activate the Shift when I get it in the mail?
How does that work with sprint? would they not let me? hellpp??
thanks!
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Not only will sprint let you, they'll even help you. Of course. Why wouldn't they?
You can call them and tell them you bought a Shift and you want to activate it and they'll help you out no trouble at all.
I bought out the remainder of my contract to receive full upgrade early. For me 6 months remaining cost $65 to save $250 on new evo.
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So if I cancel my sprint contract and pay the final bill succesfully, including the cancellation charges, I will be able to sell my EVO as having a 'clean' ESN?
The only way you get a bad esn is if you don't pay your bills, and sprint has to shut off your account themselves, or if you report it stolen..if you switch phones through contract, you won't get a bad esn.
Thx for the info. That's what I thought but wanted to make sure I didn't misrepresent myself.
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Hey guys. Basically my stepdad has an unused phone upgrade, but does not want to use it.
I would like to own the new HTC EVO 3D.
Can we extend his lines contract, get the phone and then put it on my line?
Also, I understand now that an additional $10 fee is on each smartphone for "data" now. When we signed up only my phone had this fee due to being a 4g phone, the other smartphone including his did not get charged because they signed up and got their phones the month before the change (my stepdad bought his phone online which is why he has an upgrade). Would my plan add a $10 fee to his line?
Any input appreciated. Thanks.
Nope, only the person using the phone has the $10 fee. But make sure sprint knows that you're switching phones and he will not have the Evo3d
Depending on what contract/plan he is on and if your also on that plan. If you are already on that plan and do not have a 'smart' phone, then it will only be the extra $10. However, with it being 'his' upgrade, you will have to have him upgrade 'his' phone and then activate his 'old' phone under you. If you are not on 'his' plan and you are going to add the line, then it will be $20 plus the $10 ($30) additional per month. But I'm pretty sure you can't use his upgrade for a different account. Great, now I'm confused....I think this is right, but a good rep in the store or him calling may be a better option. There are also some sprint guys on here that could answer it better.
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Nope, only the person using the phone has the $10 fee. But make sure sprint knows that you're switching phones and he will not have the Evo3d
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So this is in fact a tangible plan for myself to obtain an HTC evo?
Thanks
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Depending on what contract/plan he is on and if your also on that plan. If you are already on that plan and do not have a 'smart' phone, then it will only be the extra $10. However, with it being 'his' upgrade, you will have to have him upgrade 'his' phone and then activate his 'old' phone under you. If you are not on 'his' plan and you are going to add the line, then it will be $20 plus the $10 ($30) additional per month. But I'm pretty sure you can't use his upgrade for a different account. Great, now I'm confused....I think this is right, but a good rep in the store or him calling may be a better option. There are also some sprint guys on here that could answer it better.
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I'm not going to lie. This has me confused as well.
We are all on a family plan.
He has a smartphone, I have a smartphone and we both have our own lines. I pay $10 because I had the htc evo, he does not pay the additional $10 currently.
I want to lengthen his contract, get the phone and NOT activate it on his line, instead, take it home and call and have it activated on mine.
If you are doing this anywhere that offers "Instant Rebates" you can get away with this. Just don't activate the phone on his line at all, otherwise he will be stuck with the $10 fee when he re-activates his "smart phone". Either order it online or at a store, just be sure they do not activate it at the store. Once you are home go online and activate it on your line, or via Sprint chat.
Yeah I did it the last year with the evo4g, you will be fine as long as he activates it with his and makes like two calls and then you call sprint to change ESNs, when you change them tell him to make sure they're taking off that $10/month charge. I'm pretty sure he'll never have to pay it but I guess they might have him pay it for one month. I guess you could look at it as a tax for getting a Evo3d
With the instant rebate he shouldnt have to activate it on his line. If he does he is boned. Assuming he had any smartphone that is on the systematically enforced list. There is no override, the system will from then, on force the $10 fee on any applicable smart phone, blackberry, android, wm etc etc. doesn't matter that its not 4g.
Trust me plenty of people have got jacked on this. The only exception is if its a TEP/ warranty replacement. It sucks, but it is what it is now. Co-worker activated her old Sanyo flip for a 3 day camping trip, came home and activated her BB curve again...boned with the $10 fees now. Only way it will go away is if she uses a non smartphone from now on. Soon as she activates any smartphone, the fee is back.
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Hey guys. Basically my stepdad has an unused phone upgrade, but does not want to use it.
I would like to own the new HTC EVO 3D.
Can we extend his lines contract, get the phone and then put it on my line?
Also, I understand now that an additional $10 fee is on each smartphone for "data" now. When we signed up only my phone had this fee due to being a 4g phone, the other smartphone including his did not get charged because they signed up and got their phones the month before the change (my stepdad bought his phone online which is why he has an upgrade). Would my plan add a $10 fee to his line?
Any input appreciated. Thanks.
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YES YOU CAN. Goto a best buy store... and say this
Ok. my dad is due for an upgrade on his contract. he doesnt want the phone though. can we please do a hardware swap after upgrading the contract.
i just did it yesterday to get my mom an evo while upgrading dads lol
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YES YOU CAN. Goto a best buy store... and say this
Ok. my dad is due for an upgrade on his contract. he doesnt want the phone though. can we please do a hardware swap after upgrading the contract.
i just did it yesterday to get my mom an evo while upgrading dads lol
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What kind of phone does your dad have? Is it a smartphone. I wonder if they begin implementing the $10 fee if you upgrade your line but keep the same smartphone.
once he upgrade to a new phone he will
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You cannot upgrade a line and not activate the phone. I tried at multiple stores and if you purchase it online it activates when you first turn it on upon receiving it.
Anyhow, there is the basic answer if anyone knows a way around let me know
Ok heres what you do upgrade your dads phone to whatever phone you want then activate it like you would regularly do on his line then make like 2 calls then call sprint and ask them to switch each phone to the account you want it on.
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Ok heres what you do upgrade your dads phone to whatever phone you want then activate it like you would regularly do on his line then make like 2 calls then call sprint and ask them to switch each phone to the account you want it on.
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Thanks for your input but I think you are missing a critical detail regarding this thread.
My dads phone is grandfathered into no $10 fee for his current smartphone, swapping to any other phone even for an instant will result in the $10 fee on his account for having a smartphone.
Your suggestion includes the idea of activating the upgrade phone on my dads account. I wanted to know if it was possible to upgrade and NOT activate so that he would not be charged $10 on his line AND I would get an upgrade phone. The end of this story is
TO MY KNOWLEDGE IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO UPGRADE A LINE AND NOT ACTIVATE THE PHONE AT ALL ON THAT PARTICULAR LINE.
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THIS ONLY REALLY MATTERS IF THE LINE BEING UPGRADED IS GRANDFATHERED IN TO NOT PAYING $10 FOR A SMARTPHONE AND THAT PERSON CURRENTLY HAS A SMARTPHONE.
He will only get charged once unless the phone that gets swapped with his upgrade is a smartphone that gets charges the 10$ then he will get charged every month
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He will only get charged once unless the phone that gets swapped with his upgrade is a smartphone that gets charges the 10$ then he will get charged every month
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That's what he's trying to do. Dad has a smartphone and this guy is trying to get the 3d for himself. Activating the 3d on dads line, even for a minute, will trigger the $10 smart phone fee for for dad. Since he said dad already has a smartphone currently.
Some brick and mortar stores will do this, like best buy or radio shack. I bought a phone as a gift using an upgrade and held it for over 2 weeks before activating. Just call in and have them activate it on your line. Should be fine. Even from sprint.com should be ok. Just call in and have them release the phone from that line first, account owner may need to make the call. Then have it activated on your line.
Key is to not power it up until they are activating it to your line. Since if it's tied to his line, it will try to auto activate. When it connects to the network the first time, it will try to activate on whatever line sprint originally programmed it to. That line is changed when you call them in to activate it, after having it released from his line first.
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That's what he's trying to do. Dad has a smartphone and this guy is trying to get the 3d for himself. Activating the 3d on dads line, even for a minute, will trigger the $10 smart phone fee for for dad. Since he said dad already has a smartphone currently.
Some brick and mortar stores will do this, like best buy or radio shack. I bought a phone as a gift using an upgrade and held it for over 2 weeks before activating. Just call in and have them activate it on your line. Should be fine. Even from sprint.com should be ok. Just call in and have them release the phone from that line first, account owner may need to make the call. Then have it activated on your line.
Key is to not power it up until they are activating it to your line. Since if it's tied to his line, it will try to auto activate. When it connects to the network the first time, it will try to activate on whatever line sprint originally programmed it to. That line is changed when you call them in to activate it, after having it released from his line first.
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First, I would like to thank you for understanding my thread and posts and posting something that makes sense.
I'd like to mention that I have a 3d now and I just bought it on craigslist. This thread is really just informative at this point as I do not have a problem to solve any longer.
When I went to radio shack I tried to tell them it was "a gift for my dad". They told me that basically they could not give me the phone without activating. The guy there is older and not really very savvy so it could just be that or the policy has changed. How long ago did you do the gift thing?
FYI asurion is out of evo4g now replacing claims with the evo3d so basically $100 to upgrade to evo3d
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FYI asurion is out of evo4g now replacing claims with the evo3d so basically $100 to upgrade to evo3d
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You certain about that?
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First, I would like to thank you for understanding my thread and posts and posting something that makes sense.
I'd like to mention that I have a 3d now and I just bought it on craigslist. This thread is really just informative at this point as I do not have a problem to solve any longer.
When I went to radio shack I tried to tell them it was "a gift for my dad". They told me that basically they could not give me the phone without activating. The guy there is older and not really very savvy so it could just be that or the policy has changed. How long ago did you do the gift thing?
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The last time I did this was last Christmas. But I just spoke to a Sprint rep least week about this. I activated an old flip phone for my son, as he trashed his phone (which is why he won't get a nice phone). The rep was telling me he had an upgrade (which I knew) and I could get myself the iPhone using his upgrade. Plus on Sprint users forum, lots of people bought iPhones and sold them with no issues. Just had to call in and release the phone from their account if anything.
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well my sister wants a dinc 2 but she does not want to pay for data package she likes phone but wants to use it as a ipod touch type thing. she has env3. could she buy the dinc 2 then use it as smart phone for 1 month and pay for data package then switch back to her env3 the next and keep the dinc as ipod thouch and not pay for the data anymore?
thanks for any help from anyone
I don't see why that wouldn't work. However, it might be better for her to try and find a used one on ebay because it'll save her from using up her upgrade. That's just in the event she ever wants to in the future. You may be able to find one with a bad esn for fairly cheap.
Theoretically it should be possible. Keep in mind that she will be stuck for 20 months without an upgrade option if you do this through an upgrade. If just buying retail (paying full price or whatever), then you could buy it anywhere and not even juggle activations.
I tried this, but you have to pay to terminate the smart package I think, if not, shed have to pay full retail.
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sounds like she would end up having to pay an ETF for the data plan, so that's probably not a great idea. better to take the suggestion of finding one on ebay with a bad eSN.
If you can find one with a bad esn, it will easily be under $100. That is definitely the way to go.
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If you can find one with a bad esn, it will easily be under $100. That is definitely the way to go.
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Where you find that? When I wanted the tb I saw the for 350 with bad esns
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You won't have to pay an etf if your sister cancels her data plan. I've done it before and I can assure you that. The only problem she will run into is if she wants to upgrade prior to when she's eligible. You can search ebay but you will probably have a hard time finding one with a bad esn because it's such a new phone. Good lock tho.
I can also say that she can do that without paying an ETF at all. I have done this previously as well and am 100% sure. Since you are only doing a hardware swap, you are technically not breaking your contract at all.
Yes she can definitely do this and not have to pay any fees. Since the data package is just a feature it can be removed or added at any time and not affect the contract length or the etf. The etf only is applied if your leaving the contract.
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Data package is a feature and is not tied to your plan, your sister can drop it the same day she gets the phone if she wants it, as long as she swap it in the account back to the env3.
Okay I am not sure if I am a gold member or silver. On a $129 family plan and a premium customer. Say I wanted to switch to the 3D. How much would it cost since it's only been a year? $200, $270, or another price..? Thanks in advance.
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You are only going to be a silver member with that plan, which means you will get $75 for upgrading at a year. Sprint would probably buy your Evo for $50 right now.
If you bought your Evo, or have been with Sprint long enough that you were gold before. Then you should be able to call them and get your upgrade re-instated. They also might give you $50 for agreeing to stay with Sprint.
And here is a real easy way to check without calling them. http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/05/how-to-check-htc-evo-upgrade-eligibility-via-text-message.html
I have done that text thing a few times. Due for my 1 year in August. I tried having my Sprint buddy explain it but he was somewhat busy. It's 75 instant savings and I think I'm silver member. Not at the 10 year mark yet. I just want to know the cost up front or should I wait. I'm looking for something with a better screen and dual core.
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You are only going to be a silver member with that plan, which means you will get $75 for upgrading at a year. Sprint would probably buy your Evo for $50 right now.
If you bought your Evo, or have been with Sprint long enough that you were gold before. Then you should be able to call them and get your upgrade re-instated. They also might give you $50 for agreeing to stay with Sprint.
And here is a real easy way to check without calling them. http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/05/how-to-check-htc-evo-upgrade-eligibility-via-text-message.html
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Evo is $150 on buyback right now. Call Customer Care to see if you qualify for a "Silver Tier Override". If so, you can upgrade now and buyback your Evo, making the 3D only $50.
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Evo is $150 on buyback right now. Call Customer Care to see if you qualify for a "Silver Tier Override". If so, you can upgrade now and buyback your Evo, making the 3D only $50.
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$150? Where at? I have a 2 year upgrade available, I just want to wait for a better less phone that's less of a gimic...I don't wanna leave HTC phones because sense is the ultimate UI for syncing info but it looks as if I'm headed to a Samsung device in the future...
to be honest, I dont like the 3d screen at all.. the Evo 4g screen has a wider screen even though they are both 4.3" the Evo 4g has my props more then the 3d.. and i've played with a 3d for a day and I didnt care for the color.. the 3d tends to hurt the eyes a bit
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Evo is $150 on buyback right now. Call Customer Care to see if you qualify for a "Silver Tier Override". If so, you can upgrade now and buyback your Evo, making the 3D only $50.
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Do you know how long the $150.00 buyback program is going to last? I am wanting the Photon which comes out next week and was wondering if it would still be in effect.
And to everybody out there, I know I could probably sell it on Craigslist or the MarketPlace here, but don't want to deal with selling it if Sprint will just hand me $150.00.
Yo guys! So I'm a few days past my preliminary 30 day trial so to speak, and have the Epic Touch 4g. I love the phone, it's amazing, but I'm sure I speak for many when I say we're all really dissapointed with the antennas on this thing, and sprints coverage in general.
My 3G speeds never go past the 1.5 meg mark, and that in itself is rare. the 4g is non-existant, worse than 3g. At work I roam a good 75% of the time. And to make matters worse, all these rumors about the Touch 4g not supporting this new Rev B adds insult to injury.
So - I remember seeing a few people a while back, when I had the evo 3d (which i traded in for this phone) say they got out of their ETF by pretty much telling Sprint Reps that the recent fee increase voided their contract (i have a link, but since im a new user I cant post the link until i have 8 posts, search around youll find more info on this)
So I'm SERIOUSLY considering attempting this, and just jumping ship and going to another carrier. We only have until the 11th it seems to try and get out of the contract (you have 30 days to attempt this, fee increase was implemented on the 11th of sept i believe).
What do you guys think? Im contemplating sticking around till the 7th to see what the big announcement from Sprint will be, but I doubt whatever changes will be immediate and we'll start seeing better data anytime soon..
Verizon would be great obviously, theyre the fastest out there as far as I know, but of course the most expensive. Att & T mobile I dont know much about, dont know how good their coverage is in my area (las vegas, nv). I get such a good employee discount with sprint, theyre cheap, the phone is great, i just wish we had better coverage!!
we actually have till the 9th, my mistake!
While it is still technically possible you will have to be a bulldog with them. I did it but I set it up nearly a month ago. In that month they've had meetings and been sent memos specifically telling them NOT to let you out and that they don't HAVE to let you out. Not only that, but, the most damning thing: They've had a month of practice dealing with people on the issue which they are instructed (by default) to not let you out.
However if you stick to them, follow up and just make life in general very annoying for them (get names and direct numbers, follow up with the same exact people...that'll get old to them fast) you can still get out...or you can luck out and find one of the few people that didn't get the memo.
EDiT: Derp. If you have the ET4G you agreed to the new contract terms. Even if you were a bulldog and constantly up their ass and got an uninformed CSR you still wouldn't get out
...though I have heard that they will boot you out of contract for roaming too much (00001.PRL, ahem)
It doesn't work anymore. You can call and try to start the process but word is that Sprint is refusing to allow anyone out of the ETF because of the fee increase.
I don't know why it took you this long to realize that the service doesn't work. If it is the phone you should just exchange it for a Motorola Photon. They have great reception.
Eh, its not that I didnt know the service was shoddy, its just I was hoping I would have better service with the epic touch than with the evo 3d, which I kinda am actually, like I said the epic touch roams at work, but the evo 3d would roam A LOT more. Not to mention the horrible call quality
But, like I said, I'm past the 30 days so I cant exchange it for another phone, as far as I know anyway..
A lot of people here would exhange a Motorola Photon for you Epic Touch. They might even throw in a couple of bucks to sweeten the deal. Just ask.
On a side note my reception with the Epic Touch is crappy too. A few roaming and drop calls because of weak signal. My old Photon never had that problem.
I'm good man, I appreciate you trying to help me out, but like I said, I love the phone, and if Im staying with Sprint I think id like to keep this phone.
But if theres a way out, and other people are considering it, it's worth thinking about. I mean Ive read through all the threads on here that constantly complain about sprints service and coverage, but the phone overall seems to be getting rave reviews.
Im guessing you have one and love it as well?
I use the phone more as a multimedia than as a phone. The Photon has a problem displaying natural colors and blacks so I am force to abandon it. If they ever decide to address that problem (which I think is software wise) I would buy the Photon again. The Epic Touch is great as a multimedia device. As a phone, it fails miserably. I tolerate it.
There's no way out, sorry. You should have left within the first 30 days. Your only hope is that you roam enough for sprint to boot you.
Here's how you get out
ETF is $350... phone is worth about $350-$400 on craigslist. Sell the phone, use the money to pay for ETF.. 0 out of pocket. I do this all the time.
If you want to upgrade early: Open up new line and get new phone (evo 3d, epic touch, etc) Sell your old phone (always get a high end phone kept in mint condition) to pay for ETF on old line. You can usually get about $200ish for an old phone, even the EVO 4G still goes for $225 on craigslist. This worked perfectly when ETF was only $200, now it's $350, but it gets prorated I think after the 4th month. The only downside is you lose your # and that's the reason why I only give out my google voice #. So everytime I get a new #, nobody really knows I changed it, I just link it with my google voice #.
His ETF would be $200 because he was already past his 30 days (when he posted/started this thread), which means he started the contract before Sept 9. The $350 ETF only started after Sept 9.
Yeah **** it! I got an airrave on the way for work, where im constantly roaming, so Im just going to tough it out with sprint, if it gets real bad - ill pay the etf and sell the epic touch. Whatsitsname is correct, my ETF is 200 as far as I know, I always keep getting mis-information from sprint reps, but last I was told it was 200. I started service August 20th.
Ill just wait to see what comes out on T Mobile, Verizon, ATT, etc. My buddy has T Mobile and gets pretty consistent 3g speeds, 1.5 - 2 down, and the prices are the cheapest next to sprint as far as unlimited goes. Coverage is decent as well.
Otherwise, Verizon's speeds are awesome, my buddy hits 22 down on his thunderbolt, crazy. Id cancel my internet and just tether all the time if I had those speeds. The prices though.. not so much. Dont know what ATT has in store, I know they have decent 3g and SOME 4g capable phones, im honestly not too informed.
Hmm. I don't exactly want to leave Sprint but do you guys think I could use this as an easier way to get an ET4G from the 3d? I'm so over this 3d but I don't wanna shell out 500 to buy outright.
Lol I took my 3d in after it bonked itself and I want even a sprint customer(at the time) and they found out it was rooted(I played dumb because I got the phone off a friend) and they still bought the phone back for $150 so try and see what happens you never know. Now I did have a girl rep and I may have laid the flirt on(hey don't judge) but still you never know lol
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His ETF would be $200 because he was already past his 30 days (when he posted/started this thread), which means he started the contract before Sept 9. The $350 ETF only started after Sept 9.
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How is it possible to have an Epic Touch and not have a $350 ETF? If he upgraded, he couldn't have done it before the 16th, which was AFTER the ETF was jacked up?
I might have a higher ETF, I have to call in and check, or sprint chat later today..
But I started service on the 20th of august with a 3d, swapped out for the epic touch as soon as it came out on sept 16th, a few days short of my trial 30 days.
I have an epic touch and a 200 etf. Only because I traded a friend though
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I might have a higher ETF, I have to call in and check, or sprint chat later today..
But I started service on the 20th of august with a 3d, swapped out for the epic touch as soon as it came out on sept 16th, a few days short of my trial 30 days.
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Lucky loophole.
right! it is indeed 200, sprint rep just confirmed, so I lucked out. Im just going to wait it out with sprint, see what oct 7th brings, and if it gets real bad ill check out tmobile or att... or verizon. although Id prefer to go with something unlimited like t mobile / sprint, even if t mobile caps you.