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[Q] HDMI cable

Anyone know where one can be brought? also why have I read stuff about the s2 having mini usb? it doesn't it has the same propriety connector as the galaxy s.

It's MHL. It's the supposed new 'standard' for connectivity. I think most devices are using that connection nowadays. Last I heard was Clove saying the MHL adapters won't be out until June.

DVC1985 said:
It's MHL. It's the supposed new 'standard' for connectivity. I think most devices are using that connection nowadays. Last I heard was Clove saying the MHL adapters won't be out until June.
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really? so the original galaxy s had mhl as well? Any suggestions on what to do with my fancy new phone? so far apart from being super quick it just seems like a sleaker bigger galaxy s, I cant think of anything my galaxy s couldn't do :S
Oh I know I'm gonna see if the wii mote works on this thing

badasschris said:
really? so the original galaxy s had mhl as well? Any suggestions on what to do with my fancy new phone? so far apart from being super quick it just seems like a sleaker bigger galaxy s, I cant think of anything my galaxy s couldn't do :S
Oh I know I'm gonna see if the wii mote works on this thing
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I can't find any evidence that it did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-definition_Link
It's the new standard, but that doesn't mean older devices support it. The SGS2 is one of the first AFAIK

But nothing on the market will currently work? HDMI out from a mobile is just supercool!

I have both an sgs1 and sgs 2, my charger fits the micro usb (the only i/o connector) on the phones, perfectly

The connectors should be the same on the S1 and S2, but only the S2 is MHL compatible.
I think MHL can use any 5 pin connector to send an HDMI signal while receiving power for charging.
I'm not sure if you'll be able to use the MHL HDMI out and USB at the same time, but I hope this is possible.
I'm also guessing that the adaptor will need to be a clever one with circuitry rather than a passive adaptor. Does anyone know if this will definitely be the case, and if so I'd imagine it'll have cost implications! Hope I'm wrong and a passive adaptor is possible

Coming from a LG Optimus 2x, that came with a Micro USB ---> HDMI cable. These are available from Ebay for a GBP 10 - would these work?

Yea guessing its just MHL compatible as the old port was usb compatible. Thats annoying, with all the talk of this new standard usb-hdmi port I was assuming it would use a standard connector and not a proprietary one.
It stupid really if all manufacturers used the same connector we wouldn't have to have multiple chargers/docks/cables

You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
To badasschris: this isn't a proprietary port. Samsung, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Toshiba, and quite a few other partners are involved with it, it seems likely to become the standard for mobile devices (iPhone aside, I am sure Apply will continue to push their proprietary ports).

NZtechfreak said:
You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
To badasschris: this isn't a proprietary port. Samsung, Nokia, Sony, HTC, Toshiba, and quite a few other partners are involved with it, it seems likely to become the standard for mobile devices (iPhone aside, I am sure Apply will continue to push their proprietary ports).
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Are you absolutely sure it isnt proprietary? Why I am getting confused is because it has the same port as the galaxy s1 and I heard nothing about that being a standard port and you always have to buy a samsung charger not a [standard port] charger e.g. mini usb charger for any devices which have mini usb. So you are saying at some point the other manufactorers will have the same port and I will be able to use my galaxy s charger to charge them?

Galaxy S is a standard micro USB port, and lacks the MHL connection, its not proprietary at all, I use several non-Samsung cables to charge the phone in my car and from PCs. Most manufacturers, Apple excluded, use micro USB charging now.
The port in the Galaxy SII is not the same as the Galaxy S, as it has MHL connectivity in addition, but its function as a micro USB port for mass memory and charging is perfectly standard, and doesn't require special cables or connectors of any kind.

NZtechfreak said:
Galaxy S is a standard micro USB port, and lacks the MHL connection, its not proprietary at all, I use several non-Samsung cables to charge the phone in my car and from PCs. Most manufacturers, Apple excluded, use micro USB charging now.
The port in the Galaxy SII is not the same as the Galaxy S, as it has MHL connectivity in addition, but its function as a micro USB port for mass memory and charging is perfectly standard, and doesn't require special cables or connectors of any kind.
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lol I had to thank you there I've been a right plonker. I remember seeing someone say the origional galaxy s was micro usb and then when I saw it I thought that't not micro usb. It just clicked I have been getting micro and mini usb confused. When anyone said micro I immediately assumed mini
Glad I got that sorted.

Is it possible to buy an MHL to HDMI cable? Where?

You can't use the USB port for MHL and USB functions at the same time, this is confirmed (if you search for MHL at youTube there is a great video with a person from the MHL consortium explaining it).
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That sucks. I was hoping to look into making a tablet dock that used a USB capacitive touch screen & HDMI output for the screen.
A laptop dock using Bluetooth for the keyboard and HDMI for the screen would still be possible, or a tablet that used Bluetooth for the touch-screen.
This phone is powerful - it's annoying not to be able to use the hardware for more than just a phone.
I reckon Motorola is thinking along the right lines with the Atrix, and I hoped other manufacturers would be too, but this combined port indicates Samsung are probably not.

DavidMc0 said:
That sucks. I was hoping to look into making a tablet dock that used a USB capacitive touch screen & HDMI output for the screen.
A laptop dock using Bluetooth for the keyboard and HDMI for the screen would still be possible, or a tablet that used Bluetooth for the touch-screen.
This phone is powerful - it's annoying not to be able to use the hardware for more than just a phone.
I reckon Motorola is thinking along the right lines with the Atrix, and I hoped other manufacturers would be too, but this combined port indicates Samsung are probably not.
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Plus you have the added fact that samsung like to mess with bluetooth meaning many devices wont work with it. I really hope the bluetooth situation gets fixed somehow as this device paired with a screen and a bluetooth keyboard/mouse and game pad gives you a portable computer / games console. without it its just an amazing phone

This should work perfectly with bluetooth mouse and keyboard, my SGSI does. It should also work with a Zeemote, unfortunately it doesn't have enough buttons to be that good for using in emulators.

I can confirm that the igo stowaway bluetooth keyboard works fine w/the SGS2 in case anyone's curious

aonanodad said:
Is it possible to buy an MHL to HDMI cable? Where?
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Good question. That's what we are all looking for.

So far i have only seen two places selling them Clove and Expansys are doing it 2 £24.99 they ar egetting them in on the 28th May

[Q] HDMI adopter

Hello everyone,
I just got my new 10.1v and was wandering where I could find an hdmi adopter.
Is there a docking station with hdmi out or something?
Thanks a lot

gs980 said:
Hello everyone,
I just got my new 10.1v and was wandering where I could find an hdmi adopter.
Is there a docking station with hdmi out or something?
Thanks a lot
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I think we'll have to wait for the 10.1 and have to hope that the accesoires are compatible

All of the cables from the original Galaxy Tab work with the 10.1v (according to a Samsung rep in Australia), including the composite video out. Hopefully this means the cables for the 10.1 will work with the 10.1v too.

thanks guys,
probably stupid question, but do you know when these cables will be available for the 'original' tab?

gs980 said:
thanks guys,
probably stupid question, but do you know when these cables will be available for the 'original' tab?
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You mean the 7"?

gs980 said:
thanks guys,
probably stupid question, but do you know when these cables will be available for the 'original' tab?
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I think they are already available and have been for some time.
Anyway, it looks like an HDMI adaptor for the 10.1 is on its way:
http://samsung.mobilefulfilment.com...ct.aspx?ProductVariantId=FC276A98D9D5458B820F
I would bet these work fine with the 10.1v - though until they are released, we won't know for sure.

Will the 30 pin one from the Galaxy Tab 7 work?

Just got my Tab 7 inch HDMI dock in the post today - can confirm it works with the I/O 10.1 Tab
...there is already a youtube video from someone else showing this working, so search there if my good word is not enough for you!
Was just playing some Mario Kart 64 with my Datel Retro Wireless controller on my 42 inch television. Nice!

Galaxy TAB 10.1 HDMI
Hi
Do you need to do any setup?
I have connect the HDMI connector for 10.1 to my tablet and connect the HDMI to my TV and could not see any signal
Any idea?

You have to plug the usb/ac cable to the adapter and power source to work. Just the adapter and HDMI cable doesn't work.

psedir said:
You have to plug the usb/ac cable to the adapter and power source to work. Just the adapter and HDMI cable doesn't work.
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I missed you. Can you be more specific ?

[Q] HDMI and USB Dock

Is there any Dock with HDMI and USB for the Galaxy 10.1?
Thanks

yes there is
Sorry i cannot post the link as i have not posted enough times yet but it is called the Galaxy Tab™ 10.1 Multi-Media Dock and available directly from Samsung.

Banathe said:
yes there is
Sorry i cannot post the link as i have not posted enough times yet but it is called the Galaxy Tab™ 10.1 Multi-Media Dock and available directly from Samsung.
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That one does not have a HDMI port. It does have a HDMI pass-through to connect it to a HDMI converter (sold seperately).

Vampiro2000 said:
Is there any Dock with HDMI and USB for the Galaxy 10.1?
Thanks
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Excellent question, I've tried to find one without success.
I dream for a dock with HDMI, USB, battery charger and OTG...

Yohng said:
Excellent question, I've tried to find one without success.
I dream for a dock with HDMI, USB, battery charger and OTG...
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I've read an accessories thread on this forum about other people dreaming the same thing. Remember seeing some circuit diagrams for the OTG + Charging option. Not a simple thing to do if you want to make sure you don't fry the tab and/or the USB device.
And as for running HDMI and OTG at the same time ... may require conflicting resistor values on certain pins. Damn you Samsung!

[Q] TMO Galaxy Note 2 tv out?

I have Galaxy note 2 tmo usa version.
I tried to use tv out with following item
1) sony bravia xbr9 tv
2) Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter (http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2)
3) Note 2
4) standard hdmi cabel
I tried to connect but there is no signal on tv. all connection was proper and power was on to tv and the adapter.
I tired to diff hdmi cable - connection between TV and Adapter. but no luck .Also changed hdmi port on tv.
is there specific adapter i need to buy fr note 2 or hdmi cabel?

uhs74 said:
I have Galaxy note 2 tmo usa version.
I tried to use tv out with following item
1) sony bravia xbr9 tv
2) Micro USB to HDMI® MHL Adapter (http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2)
3) Note 2
4) standard hdmi cabel
I tried to connect but there is no signal on tv. all connection was proper and power was on to tv and the adapter.
I tired to diff hdmi cable - connection between TV and Adapter. but no luck .Also changed hdmi port on tv.
is there specific adapter i need to buy fr note 2 or hdmi cabel?
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Had the same problem..there was nothing wrong with my connection as I switched to my old GS2 and HTC One S and both worked..

ellac49 said:
Had the same problem..there was nothing wrong with my connection as I switched to my old GS2 and HTC One S and both worked..
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thanks fr reply. but i didnt get you how to make it work?

The note 2 and the s3 have different hml adapters. You will also need a converter.
On the monoprice link you posted, youll notice ab asterisk next to the s3. Same applies to the note 2.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9716&seq=1&format=2
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cholepuree1 said:
The note 2 and the s3 have different hml adapters. You will also need a converter.
On the monoprice link you posted, youll notice ab asterisk next to the s3. Same applies to the note 2.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=9716&seq=1&format=2
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I just got a Samsung HDTV Adapter Tip (5 to 11 Pin) Model EPL-FU10BEBSTD, which has micro-USB female to male; it enabled my TMobile "HDMI connection kit" that had worked with Galaxy S2 Hercules to work now with my Galaxy Note II. The connection kit was expensive, but has a 10' cable from the MHL adapter body to the male micro-usb plug, as well as a 5' cable to the TV HDMI, and a wall charger to power the adapter body. So the arrangement is quite flexible once installed.

I was hoping someone could help me with this problem also. I have a hdmi capable monitor that I would like to hook my note2 up to but for whatever reason the monitor will not detect the signal. i have tried rebooting and connecting it various ways but no dice.
the only thing i can think of is that its the rom im using which is myrom's latest version

Do you have 5pin or 11pin mhl cable? Note2 requires 11pin one.
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SolaceKane said:
the only thing i can think of is that its the rom im using which is myrom's latest version
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I was told you need an S3 cable. Here's the one I use.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/310491287097?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2648

Yea you guys are right you need 11 pin for the note 2. the sgs2 used 5 pin so if you have one for your older phone you need a new one or I think they make a converter too. I would suggest getting right from samsung. it may cost more but you get what you pay for usually and samsung makes the best stuff when it comes to that. Also another thing to consider while you are on samsungs website they have a multimedia dock that is on backorder right now but for a 100 dollars it turns your note2 into a pc basically. It has 3 full size usb ports so you can hook up a mouse keyboard and external hard drive and it has the hdmi port and an auido port so you can hook it up to a hdmi tv/ monitor and multimedia speaker system. I was going to get a new computer but I found this thing. So basically I can have an android desktop. It dont get better than that. Now wit dropbox and mobile odin and this exynos exploit we really dont need to hook up to a pc to root so there is no real reason for it. Just something to think about.

This is really helpful. My question is will this charge your phone while you are connected to the tv? Also, I see some of the description on ebay says it might not work if you are rooted.

safeplayer22 said:
This is really helpful. My question is will this charge your phone while you are connected to the tv? Also, I see some of the description on ebay says it might not work if you are rooted.
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I am rooted; The MHL/HDMI system works well, if that is your concern. The charger that I use for the MHL adapter is much lower amperage than the one that came with the Galaxy Note 2, so I would guess that charging might be slow if you are watching a movie that way, or maybe not even keep up, but I don't have the patience to do the test (or watch movies that way).

Hmmmm!!!!
I just got the Samsung dock and can't connect with HDMI on rooted stock.
The phone detects the dock and charges up, but no signal to the screen. Also tried hooking it up with the TV and projector using two different custom rom and separate HDMI cables and no dice.
Guess the dock is defective.

MHL not working

I'm having problem with my 8.4. It is rooted on stock.
I can't get MHL to work, I tested the cable on my SII and it works fine. I don't know what's wrong with it.

carefully check connector pin count
lyoth said:
I'm having problem with my 8.4. It is rooted on stock.
I can't get MHL to work, I tested the cable on my SII and it works fine. I don't know what's wrong with it.
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From pictures on Ebay the charge+ port on the S2 has 7 pins in line. For sure, the microUSB port on the 8.4 has one row of 5 plus another row of 6. Thats 11 pins. The plug might fit in the hole, but it ain't goin' work.
There are a couple HDMI adapters for the 8.4 that do work fine. See the thead under accessories.

MHL cable layout changed from the Galaxy S3 onwards. The cable I bought after the change has worked on all my Samsung devices since. They are cheap as chips on ebay.

11 pin adapter
I have the newer MHl to HDMI along with 11 pin adapter and still MHL not working