M$ asks Samsung $15 per 'Android device'.. - Bada Software and Hacking General

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388151,00.asp
I wonder if Bada will be next?

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mobi tv unlimited no longer working?

is it just me, or is the mobi tv unlimited cab no longer...unlimited? it now goes to the "Buy me" now page.
Not just you...
my MobiTV goes to the same "buy now" page. Im a little disappointed because I really liked that program. Probably the only TV software worth using (as far as I know). sad thing is, I would buy it for $50 or less, or maybe $5/ month. There is no way I'm gonna pay $10 monthly though. For what? 20 minutes every few days? I checked out Flo TV also...looks nice. Once again, I'm not going to subscribe to overpriced (up to $25/month) TV on my phone. maybe one of these companies will figure out that if they charge a reasonable ($5 or less) monthly price, or a decent flat rate, people will actually buy their software instead of hacking at it. In the mean time, does anyone know of a decent program at a more reasonable price? ...I tried e-mobile TV, but i thought it was terrible. Im definitely not looking for obscure material to watch during my commute... I want the essentials.
jekjpopulous said:
my MobiTV goes to the same "buy now" page. Im a little disappointed because I really liked that program. Probably the only TV software worth using (as far as I know). sad thing is, I would buy it for $50 or less, or maybe $5/ month. There is no way I'm gonna pay $10 monthly though. For what? 20 minutes every few days? I checked out Flo TV also...looks nice. Once again, I'm not going to subscribe to overpriced (up to $25/month) TV on my phone. maybe one of these companies will figure out that if they charge a reasonable ($5 or less) monthly price, or a decent flat rate, people will actually buy their software instead of hacking at it. In the mean time, does anyone know of a decent program at a more reasonable price? ...I tried e-mobile TV, but i thought it was terrible. Im definitely not looking for obscure material to watch during my commute... I want the essentials.
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not real tv but at least multiple video sources to stream and also wiki
try vtap it is nice and works great on ppc by 3g or wifi
I totally agree, developing these apps should be lucrative for developers, their time is money; but the price point for the majority of these apps are strangely rediculous. 15 dollars for a twenty year old pong game, 10 dollars a month for bite size low quality t.v. snippets? Not to mention 40 dollars for an IM plus app. Would aol IM be as popular as it is if everyone had to shell out 40 smackers? Makes me wonder how much apple's gonna charge for apps that decade old phones have had all along
Dunno if these devs smoke...
Like Dave Chappelle said, "that's crack prices''!!
Anyone with an answer to the original question? I know we can't go into to much detail here but, anyone?????????? If you do not want to post the answer here, how about referring us some where else.
mobitv unlimited cab working again with radio upgrade
I just upgraded my radio version to 1.54 and voilla, up and running. http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
Still NOt working
kaalgoosy said:
I just upgraded my radio version to 1.54 and voilla, up and running. http://rapidshare.com/files/73390245/HERM_Radio_Only_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU.zip.html
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No it isn't. I just upgraded to the above radio version and I still get the the "buy" page.
jekjpopulous said:
my MobiTV goes to the same "buy now" page. Im a little disappointed because I really liked that program. Probably the only TV software worth using (as far as I know). sad thing is, I would buy it for $50 or less, or maybe $5/ month. There is no way I'm gonna pay $10 monthly though. For what? 20 minutes every few days? I checked out Flo TV also...looks nice. Once again, I'm not going to subscribe to overpriced (up to $25/month) TV on my phone. maybe one of these companies will figure out that if they charge a reasonable ($5 or less) monthly price, or a decent flat rate, people will actually buy their software instead of hacking at it. In the mean time, does anyone know of a decent program at a more reasonable price? ...I tried e-mobile TV, but i thought it was terrible. Im definitely not looking for obscure material to watch during my commute... I want the essentials.
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one word for you: slingbox
I just reinstalled the MobiTV v2 cab again, and it is working, ... but I'm not sure if it's going to keep going after the 3-day trail version is over?
Radio...Hmmmmm
Since the last time I tried i upgraded my ROM to "Dutty's Hybrid 6.1 WWE lite" and Radio 1.65.14.06. I just installed the .cab it it does seem to be working again, but wreckerdude is right. lets see if it continues to work after 3 days!
I think it might...because before i flashed my rom / radio, i tried to reinstall several versions with no luck at all. No matter what i got the "buy me" screen. If it does work again, my question is this. How does changing the radio effect MobiTV at all? anyone know? lets wait a few days and discuss.

EEE PC as alternative to RedFly

I've learnt about the very cool RedFly terminal. Sounds like a great way of turning a Windows Mobile phone into a small laptop.
Then I got to thinking about the price of the thing and tonight at my Amiga club meeting learnt that EEE PC's are now 20% cheaper than a RedFly.
So I'm wondering if there is software available which will allow you to do the same thing using a PC laptop.
PurpleMelbourne said:
I've learnt about the very cool RedFly terminal. Sounds like a great way of turning a Windows Mobile phone into a small laptop.
Then I got to thinking about the price of the thing and tonight at my Amiga club meeting learnt that EEE PC's are now 20% cheaper than a RedFly.
So I'm wondering if there is software available which will allow you to do the same thing using a PC laptop.
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Yes it's called MyMobiler. Google it... I oten argued the value in the RedFly since an EEE PC is cheaper and offers WAY more(full blown XP).
You guys simply do not understand the purpose of the redfly.
that an eee pc or something similar is a better option for a single person or even a small company can be taken for granted.
but the beauty of the redfly, from a corporate admin perspective is, that it is NOT another real machine. It is a screen + keyboard for a smartphone, nothing more. And thats a good thing, because a laptop causes huge costs in operation on an enterprise level.
Applications and os have to be licensed, user rights, updates, setups have to be serviced. From time to time a user needs support, etc.
with the redfly, you dont need these. You dont even need personal redflies for every employee. No customization, no special backup, no servers, etc. The cost savings from a total cost of ownership perspective can be HUGE. And the price to buy such a machine is a non-issue.
basically, it is for enterprise users and to be bought in volume by IT departments. For everybody else: get a laptop, it is a better value for you.
You made some good points there bommel, but I don't think it justifies the huge price of the Redfly. I've pointed out the Jointech JL7100 in another thread, which is a CE device that could be a great alternative to a Redfly, assuming the right software.
As it's CE embedded, perhaps is would not have the same 'corporate admin' issues that an XP machine could have?
If a Redfly is like a stripped down eee pc or JL7100, should it not cost less? I don't believe that the price is a non-issue for many enterprises, as if a firm were buying 500 'mobile companions', I'm sure they'd rather spend $100 per machine than $500 if it did the same thing, and the JL7100 shows this is likely to be possible.
Yes it's called MyMobiler. Google it... I oten argued the value in the RedFly since an EEE PC is cheaper and offers WAY more(full blown XP).
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This is not the same as Redfly; as far as I know it does not scale up the phones resolution, which is essential to make it useful.
If I were Redfly, I'd be a bit worried. Or perhaps they knew this could easily happen and have just been opportunistically pricing their product highly while it stands alone in the market?

Windows Phone 8 Preview

PocketNow dropped some really awesome details on Windows Phone 8. Now that the information is public Paul Thurrott can talk about it a little more open and honestly with probably more credible evidence.
Some points he discussed that are interesting:
-Windows Phone 8 will be based on the Windows 8 kernel and now Windows CE like it currently is.
-Will launch together with Windows 8 and share an integrated ecosystem thanks to the same code, user experience, and components.
-Data Smart
-App to app communication
-Internet Explorer 10 Mobile
-Shared components with Windows 8
-Companion experiences with Windows 8 (HELL YES)
-SkyDrive integration
-Skype app
-NFC and Wallet
-Improved Local Scout
-Camera Improvements
-Better business features
I'll update this post with greater detail. But in the meantime check out Paul's site for details here.
What feature are you most excited for??? Sound off.
I'm personally most excited for the "Companion experiences with Windows 8". Syncing content between the Xbox, phone, and laptop/desktop/tablet will be awesome.
My ideal future would be to be at the local coffee shop and maybe get a text on my phone and since the phone is in my backpack it could instead show on the messaging hub in Windows 8. I can reply there in Windows 8 and the phone will show the message as both read and replied to. Awesome right? We'll see what the future holds.
samsabri said:
I'm personally most excited for the "Companion experiences with Windows 8". Syncing content between the Xbox, phone, and laptop/desktop/tablet will be awesome.
My ideal future would be to be at the local coffee shop and maybe get a text on my phone and since the phone is in my backpack it could instead show on the messaging hub in Windows 8. I can reply there in Windows 8 and the phone will show the message as both read and replied to. Awesome right? We'll see what the future holds.
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neat idea, working with some services already.
So you have your laptop tethered to the phone, or depending on free wifi ? Just thinking about data charges for a 5x transfer of a mms between the laptop and phone...
ohgood said:
neat idea, working with some services already.
So you have your laptop tethered to the phone, or depending on free wifi ? Just thinking about data charges for a 5x transfer of a mms between the laptop and phone...
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Ideally the OS would be smart enough to figure out which networks to use to optimize data usage if you were tethering and not on wifi. But I'm sure there are solutions to make a good user experience.
Seem like nice features to me. I guess the big question is which phones will get the update though.. Tempted to get the Lumia 910 when it comes out here in the UK or Titan 2 but I hate this game of "Will I ever get the new OS when it comes out" that I've had with Android till now. Though seeing as no phones are being announced to launch with it, my wisest guess would that Nokia aren't going to forget their flagship phones lol, HTC.. not so sure =P
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Seem like nice features to me. I guess the big question is which phones will get the update though.. Tempted to get the Lumia 910 when it comes out here in the UK or Titan 2 but I hate this game of "Will I ever get the new OS when it comes out" that I've had with Android till now. Though seeing as no phones are being announced to launch with it, my wisest guess would that Nokia aren't going to forget their flagship phones lol, HTC.. not so sure =P
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It will be interesting what phones get the update. I want to say I think most devices out right now will be able to work with it, unless the new kernel requires different hardware.
I know this isn't the most convenient option for OEMS and companies like Apple, Microsoft, and Google since you want to push innovation forward. But...in countries like the US where carriers still have more power than they should phones need to be able to last two years for two years of upgrades.
Obviously if you buy a phone at the end of it's lifecycle you can't expect to get updates two years from purchase but it's not hard to believe they can try for two years of software support from initial release.
What other features are you guys stoked about in WP8?
Last i heard microsoft was eyeing an october launch for the win8 tablets. Hopefully they release apollo around then too.
rruffman already started a thread on this.
admins can you merge this thread with the original?
hummm even if there will ever be a w8 like lite-mobile version, i dont think 1st gen and 2 gen phones will be supported, with an 8GB storage....
XxAndrexX said:
hummm even if there will ever be a w8 like lite-mobile version, i dont think 1st gen and 2 gen phones will be supported, with an 8GB storage....
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Flash storage has nothing to do with OS upgrade. MS policy is to support 2 years for each devices. Dont see why they won't be supported. May be Gen1 won't be able to benefit from all the new hardware features that can be used by apps, but that is it.
I hope so.... but I'm not optimistic
XxAndrexX said:
hummm even if there will ever be a w8 like lite-mobile version, i dont think 1st gen and 2 gen phones will be supported, with an 8GB storage....
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The NT kernel is only 25 MB. They wouldn't include all the subsystems of desktop Windows.
drupad2drupad said:
MS policy is to support 2 years for each devices.
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Source for this information?
I wonder if we will see any advantages of running the NT kernel on our Windows Phones.
sionicion said:
I wonder if we will see any advantages of running the NT kernel on our Windows Phones.
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I think the biggest advantage doesn't lie with us consumers, but instead the developers!
I don't know much about coding, but from I've come to understand is if they share the same kernel it can make creating an application that works on a laptop/desktop/tablet and a phone a lot easier. By saving developers time, energy and resources they might feel more incentive to create applications for Windows 8 / Windows Phone 8.
Another added benefit: the sales of "PCs" can boost the number of apps. When you go buy a new laptop, tablet, or desktop running Windows it will add to the total normal of devices that a developer can target on the platform. With the increased marketshare devs will be more compelled to add the app to the Windows Phone Marketplace with the increased ease with their code.
Consumers / You and me...win! With more quality apps added to our arsenal we get to reap the rewards of WP8 and Win8 sharing the same kernel.
WP8 info looks good.
Finally an upgrade from windows mobile.
It looks like it will have an accessible user file system. My main problem with WP7.
Also more languages beyond .NET/silverlight. It will get a lot of standard apps ported which were written in C++.
Targeting of business is long overdue and will improve the software for everyone.
I hope it has more VOIP integration. I think that is the future.
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Source for this information?
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its false. MSFT gave carriers the authority to control and push updates. This means MSFT will not support devices for 2 years. My at&t first Gen phone is no longer supported after mango 7720. We don't even get the keyboard disappearing fix.
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karan1203 said:
its false. MSFT gave carriers the authority to control and push updates. This means MSFT will not support devices for 2 years. My at&t first Gen phone is no longer supported after mango 7720. We don't even get the keyboard disappearing fix.
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Source please?
karan1203 said:
its false. MSFT gave carriers the authority to control and push updates. This means MSFT will not support devices for 2 years. My at&t first Gen phone is no longer supported after mango 7720.
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Another good reason to buy a phone sim free. You pay for the phone over the course of the contract anyway so it's never free.
Also the deal MS have is that they have to push every second update at least. So you should be upgraded to 8107 soon. (They skipped 7740 and they can only skip one)
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Another good reason to buy a phone sim free. You pay for the phone over the course of the contract anyway so it's never free.
Also the deal MS have is that they have to push every second update at least. So you should be upgraded to 8107 soon. (They skipped 7740 and they can only skip one)
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It may not be free, but still cheaper with AT&T in the United States. If you buy the phone at the no contract price, your monthly payment for service is not any cheaper. You just have the option of cancelling without paying $350 minus $10 for each month you had service.
If you are going to keep the phone for 2 years and don't want to switch to cancel or switch to a prepaid plan, it is cheaper to buy it on contract.
And, if you want to switch to a prepaid plan, it is still sometimes cheaper to get a phone with a contract. The HTC HD7 for AT&T is $0.01 if you get a 2 year contract, but is $449 if you buy it for a prepaid plan. So, it is about $100 cheaper to take the contract and then cancel after a month and pay $340. Then switch the phone to a prepaid plan.
They are out of stock for the HD7 for the prepaid plan, but not with a contract, which is funny since it is the same phone.

Kindle app not available on WP7.5 in Scandinavia (possibly other countries)

Hi all,
I was in contact today with both Amazon and Microsoft regarding an issue that neither of them had an answer to.. and they were both blaming each other on who had done a mistake, but none of them had an answer for me.
You see, Kindle (which was released on Windows Phone for something that seems like ages ago now), is not available in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (and possibly some other markets such as for example Japan and Russia).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...ARMDJO72UN&newContentNum=84&ref_=cm_cd_pg_pg4
The Kindle app is available here in Norway in for example Android market (Google Play), in iOS (Appstore) and Mac (Appstore)... but not in the Windows Phone 7.5 marketplace. I own a Lumia 800, and I have been wanting to use this app for ages now.. does anyone know why, or can contact the right sources about this issue?
I am posting it here on XDA mostly because it seems no one, not even the company that made the app, and the one supposed to post it, has an answer for me. Therefore you could look at this post at some way of raising awareness, and hopefully someone will discover it and maybe help discover what has gone wrong in the process of publishing this app in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden at least..) and a few other other countries.
Kind Regards
One who wants to be able to fully make the switch from my old Android phone to my now 3 month old Windows Phone.
PS. This is currently the only app I am missing to make my switch complete. Being able to read my books on the Windows Phone will be the last thing I need, currently I have to bring both phones with me at all times to read.. and that sucks.
HOFFERN342 said:
You see, Kindle (which was released on Windows Phone for something that seems like ages ago now), is not available in the Windows Phone marketplace in Scandinavia (and possibly some other markets such as for example Japan and Russia).
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I can confirm it is available and works in the US.
Yes, I know it is available in the US, and I think it is also available for the UK for example.
The thing that bothers me is of course that the Kindle app is available in the Appstore and on the Google Play market here in Norway, but not in the Windows Phone market. What makes WP so different? I cannot understand why it should not have been released by now.. and the fact that neither Microsoft nor Amazon had an answer for me and was just blaming each other, just tells me that they don't know either and should try to take it higher in the system.
As a customer I am having a hard time being able to get higher in the system, and the customer service should be able to do it for me..
http://www.matkapuhelinfoorumi.fi/f38/windows-phone-7-a-56786/index73.html#post1058439327
That post was made by the head of WP department at MS Finland in February.
Translation:
kitevesku said:
The Kindle app is only available in a few countries selected by Amazon. I've been trying to persuade Amazon for months now, but they've got their politics. Hopefully we'll get it as soon as possible, but I cannot guarantee anything.
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Same here, I live in Colombia and there's no access to either kindle nor amazon app, but they are available for other platforms. I do have access to imdb, though.
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It's not available in Greece either. However, I did find the Amazon Mobile app available today. Kindle is available in both Google Play and Appstore for download, which is needless to say, weird. The solution is quite simple, Amazon needs to resubmit the application for worldwide status, every single time Microsoft adds new countries to the marketplace, otherwise it's just there for the original countries in Worldwide status.
There's a WP Dev. email about worldwide apps needing resubmission after each addition of countries in the marketplace that goes way back to the origianl expansion of the marketplace. In my opinion, Microsoft should fix this "bug" of their's and quite honestly, get rid of that.
A quick solution would be to add a UK/US address to your account and install the app, and then change the account again back to your home country. I don't know what on earth will happen with any paid apps and updates as I've yet to try it, but if you don't have any paid applications, or you're not interested in any, a quick change will solve your issue.

Tab S4 - Do we have to actually PAY for MS Office ?

MS Office is now free on android right?
Well maybe not.
Even though MS office is clearly shown as a key app in both the Samsung video and the UK press release:
https://news.samsung.com/uk/the-new...helps-you-get-more-done-from-wherever-you-are
On the product page they write:
Microsoft Office requires users to purchase licenses
https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-tab-s4/
And on the Google Play site, MS write:
To create or edit documents, sign in with a free Microsoft account on devices with a screen size of 10.1 inches or smaller
I cannot see a size reference on Microsoft's own websites.
So my question is simple.
Will we have to pay to use MS Office, Word, Powerpoint, Excel, etc
This is an important qn, like to know too
Very good question to know... Reviews says its there, but as you mentioned on the site it says purchase.
If anyone here reviews the device in the the next couple of days we would all apprichiate insight into this.
Basically make sure a 365 account is not logged in and then see if you can create a new document.
Yeah I was going to get it today but I'm torn. Was going to just get the 256GB model but it won't be in stores till next week. Now second guessing myself and maybe I'll just stick with the 64GB one and use the MicroSD card slot for extra storage as needed.
So looks like yes you do need a license for it now, just the one playing with in the store looks that way. Hancom Office is on it though by default.
the fine print, from the Samsung site — looks like the answer is YES:
*HDMI adapter, keyboard, and monitor sold separately. Microsoft Office requires users to purchase licenses. Samsung DeX supports multi-resolution (HD+/FHD) video outputs. HDMI adapter required to connect to external display using Samsung DeX. Some apps in tablet mode may differ when in Samsung DeX mode. Recommend accessories for Galaxy Tab S4: Multi Port Adapter (EE-P5000B), HDMI Adapter (EE-HG950), DeX Cable (EE-I3100). Exact model number may vary by country.
This genuinely annoys me. Preload it on there and require you to pay.
I read around MS Office site, it seems you need subscription only for some extra functions, generally usage and editing should still be workable. Not sure if correct
Actually they can only be used for Read Only.
Doesn't seem to be fully installed which is a good thing, more of a launcher so it should be easily gotten rid of.
I didn't pay enough attention to MS policies, since Word worked just fine on my Tab s3 with the free account I have. Got my Tab s4 yesterday, and it was a disappointment that it wouldn't allow editing now. But there's some good alternatives out there that are free, and maybe MS will change that policy (not likely)
Yeah if you read the listing in the play store, it is free on devices with 10.1 inch and smaller devices. So sadly since this is bigger, it would need to be paid for.
wow, that's really a deal breaker
Dear, I also have the same problem, MS Office 365 is not working without subscription. In fact, once you start MS Word etc, it takes you to the subscription window (MS Office 365). Someone should give a clear way how we can delete this package and revert to the old MS Office or what other options are available and how can we get those and from where? I personally feel that Samsung should not pre-install MS Office with there devices. Thanks in advance
You have to pay to use Microsoft Word, Excel, if the Tablet is 10.5 inch or above, this is one of the reason i rooted to remove the stupid pay restriction! Can't you try in dev options, if you can change the resolution maybe you could bypass it that way ?
I never use Micro$oft software so I booted up my S4 and took a look. Yup, you need 365 subscription to use it. There are plenty of non M$ packages out there that are free. This is Android after all.
No but it will be read only if you are using dex on a large screen. Yes if you want to edit files. VERY lame but I get why they did it.
Guys & Gals eBay you can get a Microsoft office account for peanuts, even if the account last a year it still cost is less then a cup of coffee! Can't go wrong!!
Yep... just loaded google sheets, docs, etc. I have paid-for Office 2016 on my laptop, I'm not about to change to a subscription model, no mater what M$ wants us to do.

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