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micro usb OTG cables {YMMV}

http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
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http://www.meritline.com/micro-usb-...male-cable-black---p-62877.aspx?source=fghdac
EDIT: At least one person has claimed one or both of these cables did not work for them.

Did you test either of these?

I would caution against the top one. It puts a great deal of torque on the onboard micro usb. I would recommend the bottom one with the flexible cord.

Just ordered both of these. Hopefully one will arive within the next week as I really want to try this hack!

mazz0310 said:
Did you test either of these?
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I ordered both sets, at $1-2 each delivered.. Asked roebeet if nokia made a difference but hasn't replied. There is that option at DX, but I didn't buy that one.
-CC

I bought the Nokia CA-157 cable from ebay. Turns out it has a squared off 'A' micro USB connector which doesn't fit. It has to be a 'B' connector (non-square) to fit the Xoom. I didn't even know there were different types! Ah well it didn't cost much. I just ordered this one instead.

you star footboydog, I was looking at getting a cable from china, but this looks like the one, and cheep too! Thanks

Thought you guys might be interested in my "little" project...
I'm trying to create a home-brew microusb thumb drive for the Xoom.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/366733#366733
I'll post the updates and pics as soon as I get the parts. In the mean time if you're looking for an OTG adapter, the ones I found on eBay might be what you're looking for. And you don't have to pay to ship in bulk from China ;-)

Pretty good idea...would definitely like to see if this works.

I just received the one I ordered. It works with the wireless keyboard that came with my Acer Revo nettop PC which is very nice! Even the following keys work:
Media playback controls (play/pause, volume etc controlled with Fn and function keys together)
Fn-F4 works as the home key
The right click button to the right of the space bar brings up the menu in the top right (at least in the browser).
The search button (Fn-F2) brings up the search bar
Ctrl-T opens a new tab
Esc seems to map to "Stop" in the browser but back everywhere else
Caps lock and shift
Tab key tabs between text fields
Arrow keys navigate in browser and home screens
Unfortunately it seems to think I have a US keyboard (@ and " are swapped).
P.S. I am unrooted

footboydog said:
I just received the one I ordered. It works with the wireless keyboard that came with my Acer Revo nettop PC which is very nice! Even the following keys work:
Media playback controls (play/pause, volume etc controlled with Fn and function keys together)
Fn-F4 works as the home key
The right click button to the right of the space bar brings up the menu in the top right (at least in the browser).
The search button (Fn-F2) brings up the search bar
Ctrl-T opens a new tab
Esc seems to map to "Stop" in the browser but back everywhere else
Caps lock and shift
Tab key tabs between text fields
Arrow keys navigate in browser and home screens
Unfortunately it seems to think I have a US keyboard (@ and " are swapped).
P.S. I am unrooted
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You will find specifics for your keyboard layout in system/usr/keylayout and system/usr/keychars. Since it's taken me a long time to gather all this information I'll post something more detailed soon!

I'm really keen to get one of these OTG adapters, especially now that the official update is in the wild for usb support.
This is the type I am looking for
http://www.meritline.com/micro-usb-type-b-male-to-usb-a-female-cable-black---p-62877.aspx
It was mentioned in the OP I think.
I can't buy from them, as they won't ship to South Africa.
And the others look dodgy like they will put strain on the usb port, as was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Cheers

Anyone check if Monoprice makes an OTG cable? I'll check when I get back home.

Asked this in another thread, but it looks dead now.
Anyone know whether the xoom USB cable or any microUSB cables have OTG integrated into them? If so, maybe we could just use USB female to female adapters? What if the USB female to female is a crossover cable? I did a bunch of research on USB OTG, but it looks like most manufacturers don't use the sticker even if the cable has OTG capability.
Please don't answer if your answer is "I think so" or "probably not"... That kills me on forums...

slack04 said:
Asked this in another thread, but it looks dead now.
Anyone know whether the xoom USB cable or any microUSB cables have OTG integrated into them? If so, maybe we could just use USB female to female adapters? What if the USB female to female is a crossover cable? I did a bunch of research on USB OTG, but it looks like most manufacturers don't use the sticker even if the cable has OTG capability.
Please don't answer if your answer is "I think so" or "probably not"... That kills me on forums...
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Ha Ha, I just asked the same thing on a different thread.
USB OTG fun
So, obviously I'm also curious about this.
I might go ahead and buy a female to female to try it out, they should be quite cheap. And I'm sure I will find more uses for it if it doesn't work for this application. Will let you know when I have tried it, assuming I have received the update by then.

Ordered this cable on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250817547531#ht_4462wt_905
Thanks to advice from a guy on the other thread that I mentioned.
It was really cheap and they are shipping all the way to SA for free.
Oh, slack04, the standard usb cable that comes with the Xoom won't work for OTG using a female to female on the other end, as far as I understand it.
As far as I know, the 5th wire on the micro B side will be disconnected so that it knows that it is the slave, so even with a female to female, it won't kick into host mode, but it is my opinion that a simple hack (again suggested by others in the above thread) where you connect pin 5 to pin 4 on the standard cable, will enable OTG and then it will work with the female to female.
I hope this helps.
Cheers

Has anyone received the flexible connector in the OP yet? I want to find a known working OTG cable and it seems next to impossible.
Edit: When the blazes will Verizon, etc. start carrying these. I don't get why they wouldn't. They would likely sell them for $25 and make a killing from it.

flippingout said:
Has anyone received the flexible connector in the OP yet? I want to find a known working OTG cable and it seems next to impossible.
Edit: When the blazes will Verizon, etc. start carrying these. I don't get why they wouldn't. They would likely sell them for $25 and make a killing from it.
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$20, motorola
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...tion-Kit-for-MOTOROLA-XOOM-XW-EN?localeId=132

flippingout said:
Has anyone received the flexible connector in the OP yet?
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Nope, sorry, they were out of stock when I last checked, and wouldn't ship to my country, so I didn't get it.

You can order the motorola camera connector from Amazon, I placed an order about an hour ago. Delivery is quoted at 10 days.

USB OTG Adapter

Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Check amazon... they have otg cables on there without the cable. Its kinda bulky though.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Can't that OTG for the Tab work?

Shamrock13 said:
Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
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No! The galaxy tab does not use micro USB, it has a proprietary cable system somewhat like apple ipod
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine

Alpha Class said:
http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.

Chirality said:
You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
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correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job

I bought a 2$ cable from dealextreme for the Galaxy S2. You can find them at the same price on ebay... they work fine, tested with a USB pen and a SIXAXIS.
Now waiting for franco to update his kernel with the NTFS module to try out my external HDD.

Alpha Class said:
correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
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Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?

Chirality said:
Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
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on the cable itself
mind you i did this simply because i had the cable lying around and it wasn't being used
its only a suggestion for the cheap among us , i suppose if i had to buy a cable, i'd just plop down for the micro b

is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.

pukemon said:
is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.

Chirality said:
What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...

pukemon said:
so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.

Chirality said:
Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Here http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774

Chirality said:
No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
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Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!

IT doesnt work on HTC phones. I tried a gew hours ago, since nkbody knew i was forced to buy myself a usb otg cable. Plugged it in the Sensation, and a logitech G35 on the other side. no result, tried with regular usb stick still no result
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App

What file system are you guys using?
I can't seem to get the phone to read exFAT.
Also can't find ext4 drivers for Windows
FAT32 is not an option since the movies I want to watch are over 4gb.

derkgates said:
Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
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I'll try to do some research and tests and try to make something to help you and other people with similar needs!

I can mount ntfs with "USB Host Controller v0.44" app and 3.0.8-franco.Kernel R140 kernel.

Questions about HDMI dock

First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?

What, no buddy here have the HDMI dock?

E15i said:
First of all, I already ordered original Samsung MHL adapter, as it's much cheaper, and I will use it from time to time. I also got the audio dock for charging, and not use the usb. And ordered original Samsung OTG adapter.
Now for my questions, from what I know, the HDMI dock can charge, and use HDMI to connect to TV, but it's limited to videos only? or not?
and second question, what if I connect OTG adapter to the microUSB on the dock? will it work? or it same limited port, like in MHL adapter?
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I read something somewhere that running pre-4.0.4 stock would actually allow the HDMI dock to function as a mirror. I didn't have this with AOKP 4.0.3 however. My phone is limited to just video (Currently 4.0.4 AOKP). I'd love it if I had the option to use the dock for mirroring.
The OTG adapter shouldn't work with the USB port, as it's limited to charging, no data. Says so in the manual for the dock.

Ohh, I just not sure if to cancel the order of MHL adapter, sure it's more handy, and small, so if I go to a friend, I can get the adapter with me...
The thing is, that here: http://www.droid-life.com/2012/03/23/review-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hdmi-portrait-desktop-dock/
according to manual it say:
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So they recommend to update the ROM to thelatest, but they also say it limited to video only. on other hand, pre 4.0.4....yes you guess it, there was no any dock settings in the ROM, but it worked just like the much cheaper MHL adapter, I already spent some cash on the Pogo Dock, so my microUSB stay still ,
I know it more good looking with the dock, but if it really limited, then **** Samsung.
P.S, can anybody here comment on latest stock 4.0.4? is there same limitation to video only? because, you see, I have HTPC in one room, and watch movies and other stuff with it, so spent money on some sheet I may use from time to time, is stupid, as the Pogo Dock at least save my microUSB port, and even have line out with an option to use optical cable, but the HDMI dock, only can show videos, so why the **** I need it then ? I do see it good with emulators if I not at hotel or something, but if MHL adapter can mirror, and it cost much much less, why buy that dock? also some aftermarket HDMI docks can mirror the screen, like that:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...s_Adapters&hash=item2ebd72c665#ht_2529wt_1859
hell, that thing, can charge, sync, and mirror hdmi, and even can work with phone in a case, **** Samsung guys, aftermarket sometimes can be over 9000 times better that original, to bad there no pogo aftermarket one.

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I have both OEM OTG adapter and MHL adapter for my GNex. I am running IMM76K deodexed, zipaligned. I can view files from flash drive, connect external drive, or do almost anything you can do with a computer using OTG adapter. And I can mirror phone on TV w/ MHL adapter w/sound and everything.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA

The thing is, that the phone recognize the dock as a different accessory, not like regular MHL adapter, but most people I asked, on 4.0.4 it not mirror .
anyway I ordered the MHL adapter, and OTG, original Samsung BTW, I will need them just in case, but that case both cost less then that crap dock, but I could not resist not to buy the pogo dock , I know it not cheap, but it a cheap price for working micoUSB port
PS, check Kidigi docks, they support MHL, and even can charge second battery, sync, charge, and fit a phone with a case on it.

I bought the official pogo desktop dock from the Play Store for my GSM Nexus with CM9 nightly on it.
The dock's micro USB port ONLY works for charging!
If you plug it into a computer's USB, it will charge but will not connect, manually even says not to plug it into the computer because it may damage the dock, says to use a charger.
So not sure if OTG will work or not.

I just opened the box. Plugged in a USB drive in the back of the dock, no power is being supplied to the drive. I am not using an OEM Samsung otg cable. If undock and plug in the USB drive straight tot the phone it world no problem.
I will try with a powered HD and ill experiment with mirroring and non video outputs
edit: the dock does work with the OEM extended battery (w/ no case), it's a little tight, but actually fits pretty good

Cut lapdock HDMI internal cable

HI
I got a Motorola Lapdock for use with my raspberry pi B+2 the new 1gb quad core version. from CEX not knowing that it has the problem
someone has opened it up and cut the hdmi cable. its too small for me to re-solder it so does anyone know of where I can get a replacement from.
has the following information on it
PAD00 Micro HDMI+USB CABLE
DC30100E100 REV:1.0
2011/04/28 MEC 8-2-1
Thanks

fantomv50 said:
HI
I got a Motorola Lapdock for use with my raspberry pi B+2 the new 1gb quad core version. from CEX not knowing that it has the problem
someone has opened it up and cut the hdmi cable. its too small for me to re-solder it so does anyone know of where I can get a replacement from.
has the following information on it
PAD00 Micro HDMI+USB CABLE
DC30100E100 REV:1.0
2011/04/28 MEC 8-2-1
Thanks
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buy this, make it simple.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raspberry...ther_Computing_Networking&hash=item2c9373020a

Hi
I have all the external cables I need for the job.
It's the internal Hdmi and micro usb cable that connects to the main board and then has the cable to the two micro plugs you find at the back of the Atrix lapdock.
Thanks

Any success?
Hi fantomv50
Did you manage to find a source?
I need a couple myself.

Sorry for reviving old threads .. I'm in a similar jar .. I've broke mine ! Having the cable on/off .. moving it all over the place .. acted live a "lever" and it seems it broke !
Attaced pics !
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Nothing?

I know... Old thread... But just throwing this in here as a reference!
I converted my lapdock to contain both an hdmi and micro usb port.
This is reallllllly time consuming as you are dealing with small wires- not to mention 20 of them. Look up a pinouts for both a micro-hdmi male, and full-hdmi female. Match them up. Draw it out. (I made the mistake of reversing the wires. Male-to-Female wiring can be confusing)
Pictures of the product show its a bit ugly... but it all works. As a display and with the keyboard/trackpad combo. I have more pictures of the final product.. but I'd have to look for them.

@llenp, very handy skill.
do you have Rpi2 problem with keyboard, my case is keyboard press delay but touchpad is good.

thecjan said:
@llenp, very handy skill.
do you have Rpi2 problem with keyboard, my case is keyboard press delay but touchpad is good.
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Thanks for the compliment!
None that I have noticed with the keyboard. If anything, there were times where the trackpad would stop working.

Could you just make a picture of the wiring ?

Dc30100e100
Can anyone tell a source, where I can finde this spare Part?
This Guy seems to have found a pinout.
go to armas-spann.de > me. > downloads > atrix_pinout.pdf (48,3 KiB)
Can anyone telle me the name auf the soket on the circuit board?

gimsech said:
Can anyone tell a source, where I can finde this spare Part?
This Guy seems to have found a pinout.
go to armas-spann.de > me. > downloads > atrix_pinout.pdf (48,3 KiB)
Can anyone telle me the name auf the soket on the circuit board?
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its good to hear someone still using the old atrix, i still got mine though but i have broken micro hdmi port on the phone part. my lapdock is still good i guess theres nothing j could try on, rpi still cost a huge amount in our country, cable conversions were also hard to find (micro hdmi female to hdmi)

I have the lapdock and the audio dock. I want to connect my sony xperia z1 with the screen broken in it and use. I opened the back and left the cables out of the lapdock. I also opened the desk dock and left the exposed cables to make it easier to connect the Z1. When I plugged the Z1 into the desk dock it charged the normal beter, but the OTG function did not work. Well I would connect the HDMI to the USB input of the desktop dock to pass the Z1 pro lapdock image. Does anyone know why USB port did not work as OTG?

llenp said:
I converted my lapdock to contain both an hdmi and micro usb port.
This is reallllllly time consuming as you are dealing with small wires- not to mention 20 of them. Look up a pinouts for both a micro-hdmi male, and full-hdmi female. Match them up. Draw it out. (I made the mistake of reversing the wires. Male-to-Female wiring can be confusing)
Pictures of the product show its a bit ugly... but it all works. As a display and with the keyboard/trackpad combo. I have more pictures of the final product.. but I'd have to look for them.
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I know this is an old thread, but I busted my usb connection, can you please help me with the pinout???

And as usual... I'm a little bit late to the party. The pdf isn't there anymore .. I'm wondering if anyone else can share it ?
Also, I'm curious where all the broken screen or broken mobo lapdocks go.. I still can't find any on ebay !

Question Messy USB Type C protocols?

Hi all, I am not sure if this forum is the best place to ask, my question is not device specific I think. But since I've got a OP 9Pro, and I believe people here may have a higher chance of knowing the root problem, so I am trying my luck here.
So I recently purchased the new Macbook air, and I am setting up adb for my OP9 phone. I discovered something .... very confusing to say the least regarding USB type C cables (or ports?). I already know USB Type C standard is quite messy but this is out of my comprehension. And I really hope someone can shed some light on me.
I have a few USB Type C cables and when I connect them to my phone and the Macbook USBC port, Most won't support data transfer and some won't even charge! So I got curious and tested with 3 different USBC cables, and 2 USBC devices ( My OP9 Phone and a Wacom drawing pad), I also connect a USB-C Hub to my Mac and then repeat the experiment with all those cables again. (The USB-C Hub has a USB-C port marked 'PD + Data', see picture attached)
You can find the result table below. A few explanations:
Red cable is the original OnePlus cable; Black cable is a office supplied data cable (looks good quality); and the white cable I'd say is a cheap USBC cable.
Connect via MacBook USBC means the cable in question is connected to the Macbook USBC port directly
Connect vis Hub USBC means the USBC Hub is connected to the Macbook USBC port, and all other devices are then connected via the USB-C port provided by the HUB
For OnePlus 9 Pro, Data means I can see my devices using `adb devices`
For Wacom, Data means I can move/click the mouse cursor with the pad.
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I understand that not all USB Type-C cables are created equal, but at the very least I'd expect they can all charge a phone? It is not the case here. The questions most confused me are:
The Black cable is marked as a data cable, and it can connect to my wacom when I plug it directly to my Mac. My Wacom works as normal, but how come when I connect it to my phone, it's not even charging my phone?
When the Black cable is connected directly to my Mac from my Phone, I accidentally disconnected my MacBook Air's MagSafe power, and guess what happened? My phone is reverse charging the Macbook. WTF? Is there some sort of one-way charging protocol with this black cable?
Why adding the USB-C Hub causes different behaviour? It is clear that the HUB does support data transfer, although only with the Wacom device.
All 3 cables in question can charge my phone if I plug the other end to the apple white USB-C charger that comes with my Mac
Only using the OP red cable can the MacBook detect my phone, why? shouldn't all USB Type C 'data cables' can do that?
Really appreciate any insights!

I don't understand what you are asking or what your problem is.... The OnePlus red cable seems to be the obvious choice for charging and data transfer...

One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?

Well, things do get very confusing with power delivery and USB 2/3.
For instance, a USB 3.0 is required to have the USB 2.0 part functional.
But, you can chop that out and some devices in some circumstances will work just fine.
Also, many Type C cables are only USB 2.0, they are missing the four pairs for USB 3.0.
I would think that anything would charge somewhat but there are two major protocols for power negotiation.
One is pulsing on the CC, the other is a carrier on Vbus.
The best thing to do would be to take scissors to all your cables so that we may understand the problem!

newwaylw said:
One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?
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The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.

TheGhost1951 said:
The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.
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Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.

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Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.
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But my charge rates are 30% to 100% is less than 1 hour...my data rates between phone and PC are insignificant as to whether to takes 5 mins or 7 mins to transfer 7gb of data...as long as I can charge my phone in a reasonable amount of time and I can transfer data between my phone and PC reasonable, then what if any problem do I have?

Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.

Renate said:
Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.
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So, really what is your complaint, I was for a long time using Samsung devices, and even though I paid for them, I could not unlock the bootloader. It is my phone, I paid for it, but I can't have a custom bootanimation or do what ever with my phone since I paid for it. It was my phone, but we will limit you as to what you can do is what Samsung was saying. Charging and data rate transfer were the least of my problems. My phone my customizations were more important to me..

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So, really what is your complaint
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Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.

Renate said:
Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.
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Why are you only interested in USB?

TheGhost1951 said:
Why are you only interested in USB?
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I'm interested in a few different things.
I just read a book on the Great Trigonometrical Survey (of India, 1802-1871).
And just this morning I disassembled and patched the kernel on my new tablet.

The gambit of chargers and cables is all over the spectrum. Some cables will charge but not do data transfer. It is sometimes a hit and miss proposition that for the most part is a gamble. Not exactly a monumentous problem. Good luck in your endeavor...

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Why are you only interested in USB?
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What are you talking about? She stated a fact, that's it.

No further comment on this subject, it is pointless!