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Trying to switch from clockwork to RA recovery- wont work

Another noob so please bear with me.
I tried to switch from clockwork to RA through simpleroot, after doing so it threw a lot of error messages at me and rebooted the phone, After that, in Boot menu I went to select "recovery" and it reloaded the boot menu. It simply will not go into recovery mode anymore, and all my attempt to load any of the recovery.img files to the SD, it will continue to not load in into recovery. Please help!

looks like a q & a post but
indephenit said:
Another noob so please bear with me.
I tried to switch from clockwork to RA through simpleroot, after doing so it threw a lot of error messages at me and rebooted the phone, After that, in Boot menu I went to select "recovery" and it reloaded the boot menu. It simply will not go into recovery mode anymore, and all my attempt to load any of the recovery.img files to the SD, it will continue to not load in into recovery. Please help!
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if your good to go, booting and rooted, get to the market and install rom manager - re-install clockwork mod recovery...
tons of other methods - this seems simple?

lwarranty said:
if your good to go, booting and rooted, get to the market and install rom manager - re-install clockwork mod recovery...
tons of other methods - this seems simple?
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Yes that seems simple, but what if I want to install RA recovery instead? do I have that option and if so, where would I D/L Ra from?

rom manager will download it, my latest version shows RA 1.7.0.1 as "Flash Alternate Recovery" and install it, you can switch back and fourth, I have the premium version, not sure if the freebie does it, but support them anywoo and send some bucks!

Yes it does allow you to, the free version just doesn't allow you to access the ROM Manager, online ROM list. But it does allow you to hot swap between ROM's on the fly (essentially).
~Jasecloud4

i've gone back and forth between the two using adb to flash the recovery.
Launch adb and run the command below (assuming you are familiar with adb and fully rooted)
flash_image recovery <path-to-recovery-image>

I purchased the premium...
jasecloud4 said:
Yes it does allow you to, the free version just doesn't allow you to access the ROM Manager, online ROM list. But it does allow you to hot swap between ROM's on the fly (essentially).
~Jasecloud4
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I purchased the premium version right off the bat - good info!
Personally, I use the crap out of it regardless of my adb and shell skills, but on the road, this little ditty is awesome!

"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?

I never used the free version...
indephenit said:
"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?
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I have the premium version, perhaps more info is on the market? Regardless, I'd pop for it, you won't regret it.
http://gh-pages.clockworkmod.com/ROMManagerManifest/CHANGELOG.txt

Did you install Clockwork recovery first? Then try to switch to RA. The free version works fine for me will let me switch no problem.

Just by chance...
indephenit said:
"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?
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Does it allow you to flash the ClockworkMod recovery - maybe you spanked root?

lwarranty said:
Does it allow you to flash the ClockworkMod recovery - maybe you spanked root?
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Flashed Clockwork and now flashing alternate...

Good nuff - it's well worth the bucks if you like to flash on the spot, backup and restore. I can flash till my hearts content, screw the pooch and restore in a heartbeat with all my stuff ready to roll.

How about the reverse question,,, I already have amon recovery image. I have tried to flash the clockwork over but no go. I have tried to installed from the rom manager, no go. I have fixed the permission. any Idea's, I would like to use the rom manager........ Someone Please help!

Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.

maxcala said:
Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.
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Here is the link for RA...there is a .2 version for those with bad blocks but .1 is the norm thus far. ROM manager should include the clockwork for you and once you've switched between the two it is pretty slick for on the fly mashing. Just know that CW has known issues with cleanly wiping...FYI
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
EDIT: There was a recent update to ROM Manager

maxcala said:
Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.
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Ummm, no, don't do that, it is a recovery IMAGE not a ROM. Search for the thread for amon_ra's recovery, get the image file, use a terminal shell app from the market to flash the image. The instructions are in the first post of RA's thread.
I have the same problem, I used to be able to flash RA with rom manager, but stopped working for me as well. Even tried new SD card, wiping, nothing seemed to fix it. Now I jus keep the image in the root of my sd card and use the terminal commands. Almost as fast as clockwork, done it enough. Though as of late not use clockwork at all, just ra.

He's trying to go opposite from the OP?
itchy17 said:
How about the reverse question,,, I already have amon recovery image. I have tried to flash the clockwork over but no go. I have tried to installed from the rom manager, no go. I have fixed the permission. any Idea's, I would like to use the rom manager........ Someone Please help!
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dpilcher said:
Here is the link for RA...there is a .2 version for those with bad blocks but .1 is the norm thus far. ROM manager should include the clockwork for you and once you've switched between the two it is pretty slick for on the fly mashing. Just know that CW has known issues with cleanly wiping...FYI
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
EDIT: There was a recent update to ROM Manager
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He's trying to flash clockwork over RA - the OP was trying to install RA over cw...
If this is true - try uninstalling rom manager completely, if your not using it for backups and/or your nandroids aren't located in sdcard/clockworkmod - delete the folder and try to re-install from market. I don't believe nandroid and/or RA save to clockworkmod folder unless you have previously used rom manager?
And I have heard CW doesn't wipe cache or some such properly - never experienced issues to date...

This is true, but the rom manager was installed in my latest rom.. I will completely re-install the rom if needed just give me the order and directions, thank you in advance.

should I install a rom with out a rom manager, install the clockwork then reinstall my current rom????

Unrevoked and install the original android recovery

Hi, I'm thinking about to root the phone with Unrevoked, but I don't want to lose the original android recovery,
1. is there a method to flash the original recovery instead of the Clockwork mod recovery?
because I like to use it with fake flash and it is the best way to use always the latest updated Clockwork.

not possible with unrevoked i belive.
but what's the problem ? just use it, you will get CWM 2.5.0.7 and keep a fake-flash.zip on sd and launch it from 2.5.0.7

No, I like to leave the original android recovery because are 2 times that I have to send him to assistance and I don't like to send it with a custom recovery.

dzumagos said:
not possible with unrevoked i belive.
but what's the problem ? just use it, you will get CWM 2.5.0.7 and keep a fake-flash.zip on sd and launch it from 2.5.0.7
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Quick question out of curiosity: why is CWM 2.5.0.7 flashed on a GSM Desire by default? They're up to 3.2.0.0 at least. Is there something wrong with later versions?

Is a metod to reflash the original android recovery from clockwork mod recovery?

You can't use the stock recovery to flash a custom ROM so it's just not worth it. Keep the RUU for your phone for if you need to go back to stock

ninpoumike said:
Hi, I'm thinking about to root the phone with Unrevoked, but I don't want to lose the original android recovery,
1. is there a method to flash the original recovery instead of the Clockwork mod recovery?
because I like to use it with fake flash and it is the best way to use always the latest updated Clockwork.
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Sorry not possible, because you cannot use fakeflash from the original unmodified recovery(it was made for the old root method, which modífied the recovery to allow test-keys, so even though it looked like the original HTC recovery, it weren't).
However you can easily just use fakeflash(via rommanager) even though you have clockwork mod installed as well. It'll just open the fake flash recovery instead when the update.zip is flashed, so just root normally using unrevoked.

Sintel said:
Quick question out of curiosity: why is CWM 2.5.0.7 flashed on a GSM Desire by default? They're up to 3.2.0.0 at least. Is there something wrong with later versions?
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Newest clockworkmod version uses a newer script for flashing. Some developed things (roms, etc.) does not support this script yet. So one won't be able to flash things.

[Q] ClockWork Recovery App question.

Hi
I root my HTC EVO about 2 weeks ago. When Unrevok ask me to install the custom recovery I answer yes (CWM V4.0.1.4). Everything went great. After that I download the Rom Manager App to manage my backups.
On the Rom Manager App when I press on "Backup Current Rom" I get this prompt "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing!. Install the recovery though Rom Manager First".
It is safe to install the ClockworkMod Recovery even do I have CWM V4.0.1.4 ?
Thanks in advance.

Yes, rom manager will just re-flash it to the latest version.

Do yourself a favor and get Amon Ra and dump ROM Manager

HipKat said:
Do yourself a favor and get Amon Ra and dump ROM Manager
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Amon-Ra vs. CWM
Is it really that much better? I kinda like the ROM manager that came with my CM7 Rom, and I know that prefers CWM.

Or do yourself a bigger favor and install twrp.

Journeyman83 said:
Is it really that much better? I kinda like the ROM manager that came with my CM7 Rom, and I know that prefers CWM.
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ROM Manager has a history of not being as efficient as it promises and making mistakes in backups. It also will not do a correct wipe of your system before flashing a new ROM, which creates problems, potentially, with FC's, etc...

atyoung said:
Or do yourself a bigger favor and install twrp.
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TWRP is not there yet. They lack the wipe boot feature which will screw up alot of ROM installs. Ra Recovery is still the way to go, plus all ROMS that have issues flashing in CWM have issues in TWRP. Once TeamWin fixes the major issues with TWRP then it will be the recovery to use. Presently it is still flawed.

If I have ROM manager can I just download and flash RA Recovery over that without having to flash the PC36IMG.zip? I'm new to this so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.

LandOfLinkin said:
If I have ROM manager can I just download and flash RA Recovery over that without having to flash the PC36IMG.zip? I'm new to this so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.
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If you have the android sdk installed on your system just boot to your bootloader and select fastboot. Then place the file in .img format in your android-sdk-windows\tools directory then rename the file to something shorter, I usually go with amonra.img. then navigate to that directory with cmd. Then type fastboot flash recover amonra.img this will flash the new recovery. However if you don't have the sdk installed then you will need the pc36img.zip format place it on the root if your sdcard and reboot the phone while holding power+vol up. The bootloader should detect the file and ask if you wish to apply the update. Press vol up to accept the update, and it will flash the new recovery. Now once you do this you will need to make all new backups because any backup made with CWM will not work with ra recovery.
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Thanks for the help. I actually downloaded Android terminal emulator and flashed it from the SD card. You guys are just too darn helpful!
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Thanks guys for the help.

Clockwork android app + link2sd + googleplay failure
I buyed the app but cant install the 42kb premium key :-/
please help

Updgrading Clockwork mod

During the summer I rooted my phone and i have Clockworkmod v2.5.0.7 installed.
I am trying to upgrade to the latest version and it never seems to stick.
Using Rom manager. It says that im flashed to v5.0.2.0 yet when i boot to recovery from rom manager it loads to v2.5.0.7. Does the same thing if i choose to flash a rom though ROM MANAGER. each time v2XXX loads
So i fire up recover and try loading the zip. Bingo it works. The screen turns from green to blue and V5.0.2.0 is now there for me to use. But if i reboot and later return to recovery its back to the old V2xxxx..
Any ideas why this is happening? Is it really necessary to move on to the V5xxxx versions? I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
Thanks in advance..

When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.

Meaple said:
When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.
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if your Desire is s-off, then ROM Manager flashes recovery normally.
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rom manager now works only if u have s-off..no fake flash anymore is possible

revolutionary.io will upgrade cwm if you want

I think this thread answers one of my own questions but will ask it anyway to confirm; when I rooted my Desire (via Unrevoked) a few months back, the ROM Manager app that continues to be updated via the market offers the option to upgrade the version of CWM... is it OK to proceed with this?
I've been wary of upgrading from the version installed via the rooting process, just in case, but seeing this thread has made me think there isn't actually an issue with whatever version of recovery you have installed?

TKG26 said:
I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
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Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.

To upgrade recovery (or hboots) I always use Fastboot Commander and it's very easy to use and never let me down.

erklat said:
Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.
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I agree. Unless you need to maintain an ext 4 partition (as 2.5.0.7 converts it to lower apparently when backing up) I see no reason to change from 2.5.0.7.
I use it even today. Best recovery IMHO.

[Q] ClockworkMod Recovery Question

Just installed the latest version of ROM Manager to flash CM7.1 on my Defy.
When I try to install ClockworkMod Recovery & chose 'Defy' as my phone model it says "Defy doesn't have an officially supported ClockworkMod Recovery yet. Have you installed a CLockworkMod based recovery manually?" The options offered are Yes/No...which I haven't
What do I do next? First time @ this...The flashing CM7.1 videos on youtube seem to be simple...its the forums that confuse the hell out my head.
Please help!

As I remember, CM7 has its 2nd-init Recovery bundled.
You need not install another...
Please check it on CM7.1.

U need to install "defy 2nd init" from the market ....then open it and touch install and choose stable option and after it downloads and finishes, then reboot twice ,then go to Rom manager and install roms
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@akstechscience: I did what you said and restarted my phone twice. now when I try to download roms from rom manager it asks me which version of clock work mod has been installed version 2 or 3?
What do I do?
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pirarucu said:
As I remember, CM7 has its 2nd-init Recovery bundled.
You need not install another...
Please check it on CM7.1.
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I'm unable to download ROMs from ROM Manager without installing ClockWorkMod...so I installed 2nd-init for Defy & restarted my phone twice...
I have stock 2.2 btw...

gamefrk said:
@akstechscience: I did what you said and restarted my phone twice. now when I try to download roms from rom manager it asks me which version of clock work mod has been installed version 2 or 3?
What do I do?
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I simply chose that I have ClockWorkMod ver 2.xx installed & then tried to backup my current ROM by choosing "Backup current ROM"....then Defy booted into recovery where nothing happened...i could see the Android Robot with an 'exclamation mark' "!" over its head.
What am I doing wrong? Very desperate to install CM7.1...

I think you need to check first your CWM is properly working before trying ROM Manager. Have you root your phone in the first place now?
The stable 2nd-init for my Defy running gingerbread is SndInitDefy_1.9. Find this, download and install. Launching the app then will ask you to install CWM.
After confirming 2nd-init working, then you can proceed with flashing CM7 via CWM.

farsight73 said:
I think you need to check first your CWM is properly working before trying ROM Manager. Have you root your phone in the first place now?
The stable 2nd-init for my Defy running gingerbread is SndInitDefy_1.9. Find this, download and install. Launching the app then will ask you to install CWM.
After confirming 2nd-init working, then you can proceed with flashing CM7 via CWM.
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Yes I rooted my Defy successfully a few days back. I even installed SETCPU, setvsel & other apps that require your phone to be rooted.
I installed Defy2nd Init from here, it is version 1.9 as you say.
After installing stable version of 2nd init, I turned off USB debugging & reboot...I see a new boot menu with a few options there. I chose default boot...After android OS starts up I try to flash CMod recovery from ROM Manager ...it again asks me the same question of version 2.xx or 3.xxx
Please Help!

Im no expert and am infact quite a noob to all this flashing business but from what I understand you dont flash the ROM via ROM Manager. You need to follow the install instructions on the forum.
It will tell you about creating wiping data/factory, wipe cache, and installing the ROM from your SD card
This is all done in the recovery menu and not ROM manager.
see this INSTALL THREAD or try THIS INSTALL THREAD
The latter one is the guide I used and it all worked perfectly.
There are other handy NOVICE GUIDES here too
Good luck

Yeah try the above mentioned method if the Rom manager is not working....its not that tough
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