During the summer I rooted my phone and i have Clockworkmod v2.5.0.7 installed.
I am trying to upgrade to the latest version and it never seems to stick.
Using Rom manager. It says that im flashed to v5.0.2.0 yet when i boot to recovery from rom manager it loads to v2.5.0.7. Does the same thing if i choose to flash a rom though ROM MANAGER. each time v2XXX loads
So i fire up recover and try loading the zip. Bingo it works. The screen turns from green to blue and V5.0.2.0 is now there for me to use. But if i reboot and later return to recovery its back to the old V2xxxx..
Any ideas why this is happening? Is it really necessary to move on to the V5xxxx versions? I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
Thanks in advance..
When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.
Meaple said:
When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.
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if your Desire is s-off, then ROM Manager flashes recovery normally.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
rom manager now works only if u have s-off..no fake flash anymore is possible
revolutionary.io will upgrade cwm if you want
I think this thread answers one of my own questions but will ask it anyway to confirm; when I rooted my Desire (via Unrevoked) a few months back, the ROM Manager app that continues to be updated via the market offers the option to upgrade the version of CWM... is it OK to proceed with this?
I've been wary of upgrading from the version installed via the rooting process, just in case, but seeing this thread has made me think there isn't actually an issue with whatever version of recovery you have installed?
TKG26 said:
I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
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Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.
To upgrade recovery (or hboots) I always use Fastboot Commander and it's very easy to use and never let me down.
erklat said:
Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.
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I agree. Unless you need to maintain an ext 4 partition (as 2.5.0.7 converts it to lower apparently when backing up) I see no reason to change from 2.5.0.7.
I use it even today. Best recovery IMHO.
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First things first, if you flashed a previous version of Clockwork Recovery using Odin, FLASH BACK TO A STOCK KERNEL. (There's another link in the forum to do this, I can't find it at the moment)
This recovery is *very* safe to use. It does NOT flash your kernel; it is a completely uninvasive recovery method.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Galaxy S i9000 as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
Use ROM Manager to create a Backup.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
If you can't seem to get ROM Manager off the market, you can get it from my homepage:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html
Just installed! Working great!
Installed with ROM manager. Works like a charm! Thanx alot Koush!
works fine
works like a charm
Installed, everything working without problems.
To install roms with clockwork we need roms in *.zip format? Where to get them?
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Just got my phone
will try it after charging ]
YOU ARE THE MAN
thank you and thanks all Xda devs and members
hmm ... I know this might sound stupid but, acually GSG is my first android phone, though I know how to flash roms with odin and how to apply update.zip and all that but what is the difference between this and ClockworkMod Recovery ?? and does it use the same components as odin ? (I mean CODE, CSC, MODEM and Pit) ?
Stickied. Closing the other one. Not sure why you would start a new thread instead of modifying the old one though...
Thanks Koush your the man. Coming from a htc magic I hate this odin bull
Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
EDIT: After rebooting my phone and trying to open ROM Manager again, I have some sort of "Recovery Failure" screen with 3 options:
- Recovery mode is broken.
- ROM Manager doesn't reboot.
- Other.
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Arkymedes said:
Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
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Do you already have an update.zip on your internal sdcard? If yes, rename it, and then should boot just fine!
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Do you already have an update.zip on your internal sdcard? If yes, rename it, and then should boot just fine!
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Ahhh... I guess I'm not very used to this "Internal SD Card" thing... there was the update.zip I used to root the phone there and I only checked my regular External SD.
Everything is fine now, sorry for bothering.
Arkymedes said:
Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
EDIT: After rebooting my phone and trying to open ROM Manager again, I have some sort of "Recovery Failure" screen with 3 options:
- Recovery mode is broken.
- ROM Manager doesn't reboot.
- Other.
?
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I had the same issue. Must have been the update.zip, but I didnt remove it, just pressed the other option, went into manual recovery mode, rebooted went into rom manager and backed up my files. Worked a charm
Does this mean there will be no more work on a permanent recovery solution?
I have the Korean version M110S - and it does not have the standard recovery (it is crippled - no apply:update.zip). Is there and abd command to "apply update.zip" ?
May I ask if this work for me using mimocan ext4 fix on the backup/restore?
This may sound stupid, but I'm kinda new to Android modding (SGS is my first droid, moving here from WiMo on SE-X1) and.... What is Clockwork?
So if I ever needed to send this phone in for warranty purposes, I could just flash the backup of my stock ROM in and I should be good to go?
does this method works for captivate and vibrant???
edit: just install/ captivate and vibrant option available.
Rithina said:
May I ask if this work for me using mimocan ext4 fix on the backup/restore?
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Worked for me with mimocan ext4 fix
Another noob so please bear with me.
I tried to switch from clockwork to RA through simpleroot, after doing so it threw a lot of error messages at me and rebooted the phone, After that, in Boot menu I went to select "recovery" and it reloaded the boot menu. It simply will not go into recovery mode anymore, and all my attempt to load any of the recovery.img files to the SD, it will continue to not load in into recovery. Please help!
looks like a q & a post but
indephenit said:
Another noob so please bear with me.
I tried to switch from clockwork to RA through simpleroot, after doing so it threw a lot of error messages at me and rebooted the phone, After that, in Boot menu I went to select "recovery" and it reloaded the boot menu. It simply will not go into recovery mode anymore, and all my attempt to load any of the recovery.img files to the SD, it will continue to not load in into recovery. Please help!
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if your good to go, booting and rooted, get to the market and install rom manager - re-install clockwork mod recovery...
tons of other methods - this seems simple?
lwarranty said:
if your good to go, booting and rooted, get to the market and install rom manager - re-install clockwork mod recovery...
tons of other methods - this seems simple?
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Yes that seems simple, but what if I want to install RA recovery instead? do I have that option and if so, where would I D/L Ra from?
rom manager will download it, my latest version shows RA 1.7.0.1 as "Flash Alternate Recovery" and install it, you can switch back and fourth, I have the premium version, not sure if the freebie does it, but support them anywoo and send some bucks!
Yes it does allow you to, the free version just doesn't allow you to access the ROM Manager, online ROM list. But it does allow you to hot swap between ROM's on the fly (essentially).
~Jasecloud4
i've gone back and forth between the two using adb to flash the recovery.
Launch adb and run the command below (assuming you are familiar with adb and fully rooted)
flash_image recovery <path-to-recovery-image>
I purchased the premium...
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Yes it does allow you to, the free version just doesn't allow you to access the ROM Manager, online ROM list. But it does allow you to hot swap between ROM's on the fly (essentially).
~Jasecloud4
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I purchased the premium version right off the bat - good info!
Personally, I use the crap out of it regardless of my adb and shell skills, but on the road, this little ditty is awesome!
"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?
I never used the free version...
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"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?
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I have the premium version, perhaps more info is on the market? Regardless, I'd pop for it, you won't regret it.
http://gh-pages.clockworkmod.com/ROMManagerManifest/CHANGELOG.txt
Did you install Clockwork recovery first? Then try to switch to RA. The free version works fine for me will let me switch no problem.
Just by chance...
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"Flash Alternate Recovery" is blacked out and unavailable for selection, am I skipping a step or will I need to purchase the premium version to access this feature to download RA Recovery?
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Does it allow you to flash the ClockworkMod recovery - maybe you spanked root?
lwarranty said:
Does it allow you to flash the ClockworkMod recovery - maybe you spanked root?
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Flashed Clockwork and now flashing alternate...
Good nuff - it's well worth the bucks if you like to flash on the spot, backup and restore. I can flash till my hearts content, screw the pooch and restore in a heartbeat with all my stuff ready to roll.
How about the reverse question,,, I already have amon recovery image. I have tried to flash the clockwork over but no go. I have tried to installed from the rom manager, no go. I have fixed the permission. any Idea's, I would like to use the rom manager........ Someone Please help!
Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.
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Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.
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Here is the link for RA...there is a .2 version for those with bad blocks but .1 is the norm thus far. ROM manager should include the clockwork for you and once you've switched between the two it is pretty slick for on the fly mashing. Just know that CW has known issues with cleanly wiping...FYI
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
EDIT: There was a recent update to ROM Manager
maxcala said:
Search the forum for the RA zip file and just flash it with clockworkmod.
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Ummm, no, don't do that, it is a recovery IMAGE not a ROM. Search for the thread for amon_ra's recovery, get the image file, use a terminal shell app from the market to flash the image. The instructions are in the first post of RA's thread.
I have the same problem, I used to be able to flash RA with rom manager, but stopped working for me as well. Even tried new SD card, wiping, nothing seemed to fix it. Now I jus keep the image in the root of my sd card and use the terminal commands. Almost as fast as clockwork, done it enough. Though as of late not use clockwork at all, just ra.
He's trying to go opposite from the OP?
itchy17 said:
How about the reverse question,,, I already have amon recovery image. I have tried to flash the clockwork over but no go. I have tried to installed from the rom manager, no go. I have fixed the permission. any Idea's, I would like to use the rom manager........ Someone Please help!
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dpilcher said:
Here is the link for RA...there is a .2 version for those with bad blocks but .1 is the norm thus far. ROM manager should include the clockwork for you and once you've switched between the two it is pretty slick for on the fly mashing. Just know that CW has known issues with cleanly wiping...FYI
http://files.androidspin.com/downloads.php?dir=amon_ra/RECOVERY/&file=recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.1.img
EDIT: There was a recent update to ROM Manager
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He's trying to flash clockwork over RA - the OP was trying to install RA over cw...
If this is true - try uninstalling rom manager completely, if your not using it for backups and/or your nandroids aren't located in sdcard/clockworkmod - delete the folder and try to re-install from market. I don't believe nandroid and/or RA save to clockworkmod folder unless you have previously used rom manager?
And I have heard CW doesn't wipe cache or some such properly - never experienced issues to date...
This is true, but the rom manager was installed in my latest rom.. I will completely re-install the rom if needed just give me the order and directions, thank you in advance.
should I install a rom with out a rom manager, install the clockwork then reinstall my current rom????
Hey, just a quick question;
the CyanogenMod 7 update guide states
'NOTE: the ClockworkMod version 2.5.0.7 installed by Unrevoked3 is widely reported not to work with new "PVT4" batches of the Desire. To find out version of the device: '
I have found this to be true, and two times have I had the problem of having a phone which cannot mount an sd card.
So, what is the most stable version of the recovery for my HTC Desire? In Rom Manager I have the options of versions 2.5.0.7, 2.5.1.3 and 2.5.1.1.
Thanks!
I'm currently using 3.0.0.5 I believe it is, works fine apart from it no longer supports the installation of ROM's/Mods that use the old style install-script.
CM 2.5.1.8 is most stable for me coz working fine, try this
Ok so if I want to use the new 3.0.0.5, all I need to do is download the .zip and flash it like I would a rom through recovery? I actually think I may be using AmonRa 2.0.1; Rom Manager is lying to me - so will i also be safe if I flashed it from AmonRa? Sorry for being cautious; I'm sick of the command prompt.
No. Using a zip file only fake flashes the recovery so it's only there for the one time and when you reboot it it's gone. You need to actually permanently flash the .img file. You need S-Off for this. You can use fastboot or the Android Flasher, either way is fine. Also Rom Manager is gay for the Desire. Don't use it. BTW, I'm using 3.0.0.5 built by Kali. I have the fake flash 2.5.0.7.zip file incase I need it.
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No. Using a zip file only fake flashes the recovery so it's only there for the one time and when you reboot it it's gone. You need to actually permanently flash the .img file. You need S-Off for this. You can use fastboot or the Android Flasher, either way is fine. Also Rom Manager is gay for the Desire. Don't use it. BTW, I'm using 3.0.0.5 built by Kali. I have the fake flash 2.5.0.7.zip file incase I need it.
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Oh ok. Thanks, that was useful! I will probably stick with the recovery I have now and just not use Rom manager then (after all that may be the cause of my problems) , I'm not too keen on S-Offing right now.
So why would someone want to fake flash a recovery?
Hi, I'm thinking about to root the phone with Unrevoked, but I don't want to lose the original android recovery,
1. is there a method to flash the original recovery instead of the Clockwork mod recovery?
because I like to use it with fake flash and it is the best way to use always the latest updated Clockwork.
not possible with unrevoked i belive.
but what's the problem ? just use it, you will get CWM 2.5.0.7 and keep a fake-flash.zip on sd and launch it from 2.5.0.7
No, I like to leave the original android recovery because are 2 times that I have to send him to assistance and I don't like to send it with a custom recovery.
dzumagos said:
not possible with unrevoked i belive.
but what's the problem ? just use it, you will get CWM 2.5.0.7 and keep a fake-flash.zip on sd and launch it from 2.5.0.7
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Quick question out of curiosity: why is CWM 2.5.0.7 flashed on a GSM Desire by default? They're up to 3.2.0.0 at least. Is there something wrong with later versions?
Is a metod to reflash the original android recovery from clockwork mod recovery?
You can't use the stock recovery to flash a custom ROM so it's just not worth it. Keep the RUU for your phone for if you need to go back to stock
ninpoumike said:
Hi, I'm thinking about to root the phone with Unrevoked, but I don't want to lose the original android recovery,
1. is there a method to flash the original recovery instead of the Clockwork mod recovery?
because I like to use it with fake flash and it is the best way to use always the latest updated Clockwork.
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Sorry not possible, because you cannot use fakeflash from the original unmodified recovery(it was made for the old root method, which modÃfied the recovery to allow test-keys, so even though it looked like the original HTC recovery, it weren't).
However you can easily just use fakeflash(via rommanager) even though you have clockwork mod installed as well. It'll just open the fake flash recovery instead when the update.zip is flashed, so just root normally using unrevoked.
Sintel said:
Quick question out of curiosity: why is CWM 2.5.0.7 flashed on a GSM Desire by default? They're up to 3.2.0.0 at least. Is there something wrong with later versions?
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Newest clockworkmod version uses a newer script for flashing. Some developed things (roms, etc.) does not support this script yet. So one won't be able to flash things.
Hello everyone,
i used to have rom manager and cwm 2.5.0.7 working fine under MIUI.Then i decided to replace the cwm files with the 4ext recovery.All went ok and i was able to fakeflash with rom manager and boot into 4ext until one i day i decided to fakeflash via rom manager the newest cwm 5.0.2.0 Although it says flashing complete when i try to reboot into recovery it gets me to the old 2.5.0.7
Any ideas?
Are you s-off? If yes, flash recovery via fastboot.
No, i m not
Actually i dont want to replace my permanent recovery.Just to be able to use the fakeflash version in rom manager!
Follow these instructions:
go to settings > applications > manage applications > ROM Manager > #uninstall#
End of all your problems. ROM Manager is a third party app that just causes problems, it is a lot safer to just boot into recovery manually (power off, hold volume down & power, use volume keys to navigate RECOVERY, press power to boot into recovery)
If you want to fakeflash through recovery, all you need is the recovery.zip, and fakeflash it like you'd flash a ROM.
Ivanovic said:
Hello everyone,
i used to have rom manager and cwm 2.5.0.7 working fine under MIUI.Then i decided to replace the cwm files with the 4ext recovery.All went ok and i was able to fakeflash with rom manager and boot into 4ext until one i day i decided to fakeflash via rom manager the newest cwm 5.0.2.0 Although it says flashing complete when i try to reboot into recovery it gets me to the old 2.5.0.7
Any ideas?
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I agree with the other: dont use rom manager
anyway, u can't flash it beacuase the last version of rom manager do not use fakeflash anymore, it's need s-off now
so, u must s-off, then better if u flash it with fastboot, and use the recvoery manually
Thanks for the replies people
Nothing wrong with 2.5.0.7, it does the job. Remember to press the 'Thanks' button rather than just saying "thanks".
Offcourse its nothing wrong.But i used a fake flash version of 4ext recovery via rom manager thats why i started this thread.Because i m no longer able to fakeflash another recovery via rom manager.I know it can be done via permanent recovery.
Ivanovic said:
Offcourse its nothing wrong.But i used a fake flash version of 4ext recovery via rom manager thats why i started this thread.Because i m no longer able to fakeflash another recovery via rom manager.I know it can be done via permanent recovery.
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as i said, latest rom manager does not support fakeflash anymore!
I had the same problem, then I go s-off and was able to flash recovery also via RomManager...
I believe ROM manager doesn't support fake flash on the desire as this was breaking many desires that had true flash versions of recovery.
It got so bad at Android forums, we had to create a thread warning people.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/356192-warning-do-not-use-rom-manager.html
Anyway for me 2.5.0.7 is still my favourite recovery.
Don't really understand the need for ROM manager anymore. It made lots of sense before Unrevoked came along. Now it seems to me just helping the lazy get lazier (but of course this is just my opinion)
rootSU said:
ROM manager doesn't support fake flash on the desire as this was breaking many desires that had true flash versions of recovery.
It got so bad at Android forums, we had to create a thread warning people.
http://androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/356192-warning-do-not-use-rom-manager.html
Anyway for me 2.5.0.7 is still my favourite recovery.
Don't really understand the need for ROM manager anymore. It made lots of sense before Unrevoked came along. Now it seems to me just helping the lazy get lazier (but of course this is just my opinion)
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Created a thread in Desire General section with the same topic and linked to your post respectively to the one on androidforums.