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Fake Flash? Quick Boot? Confused

I tried this in the Q-n-A but no response so thought I would post it here. Sorry for the clutter.
I am rooted with Toasts method and have his .6 rom running (Thanks Toast )
I have been trying to follow the fake flash thread as well as the quickboot.
Are they dependent on each other? Do I need to do fake-flash THEN quick boot to get the rom manager to be able to reboot into recovery?
Or do all I need to do is push the reboot and follow the quick boot instructions?

Well atm quickboot is how you get to the recovery. They havent frigured out how to get there from just booting up yet.*It will come in due time, we have great devs here.*
But you can either have one or the other, hell even both. But the Fake flash you can do with out a computer*Toash method*
The Rom Manager is basicly the same thing as the fake flash there is just a app for that. from what I know
Hope this could be of some help

Ok cool, so if I do the Quick Boot thing, I can reboot to recovery through the Rom Manager directly? Sounds like the way to go for now.

Bielinsk said:
Ok cool, so if I do the Quick Boot thing, I can reboot to recovery through the Rom Manager directly? Sounds like the way to go for now.
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I did the fake flash first......which will install the update.zip to sdcard which is ur on board recovery then you will have to read the quickboot thread to fix the ability to reboot, the reboot file needs to be replaced before quickboot or Rom manager can reboot the phone into recovery.

beerock said:
I did the fake flash first......which will install the update.zip to sdcard which is ur on board recovery then you will have to read the quickboot thread to fix the ability to reboot, the reboot file needs to be replaced before quickboot or Rom manager can reboot the phone into recovery.
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OK, I thought all I needed to do was the quickboot thread, then your response got me all confused again about what I need to do.
From my understanding, Rom Manager and Quickboot do the same thing as far as rebooting to recovery.

just get the free version of Rom Manager and then the paid license.. thats all you need

Bielinsk said:
OK, I thought all I needed to do was the quickboot thread, then your response got me all confused again about what I need to do.
From my understanding, Rom Manager and Quickboot do the same thing as far as rebooting to recovery.
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You are not alone buddy.. I just want to flash custom roms away from a pc the easiest way but not sure now either.
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OK, if you are rooted with Toasts all you have to do is follow the instructions that are in the Quickboot thread.
I loaded Rom Manager and clicked download clock thingy.
Then I rebooted to toasts recovery and ran the windows.bat file to get access to ADB.
follow the quickboot thread.
Now from Rom Manger you can select reboot to recovery and that will take you into a reboot and end up in recovery where you can backup, wipe, flash etc.
No computer needed.

Bielinsk said:
OK, if you are rooted with Toasts all you have to do is follow the instructions that are in the Quickboot thread.
I loaded Rom Manager and clicked download clock thingy.
Then I rebooted to toasts recovery and ran the windows.bat file to get access to ADB.
follow the quickboot thread.
Now from Rom Manger you can select reboot to recovery and that will take you into a reboot and end up in recovery where you can backup, wipe, flash etc.
No computer needed.
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thanks..so you didnt do anything in the fake flash thread?

MrDSL said:
thanks..so you didnt do anything in the fake flash thread?
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Nope, I posted all I did and now can reboot into recovery from Rom Manager.

well ROM Manager force closes on me when I try and download clockwork and then if i try and relaunch it without rebooting it will run and download clock but then just stays at su request and then force closes..i imagine because it force closes the first time i try and click the clock button.

MrDSL said:
well ROM Manager force closes on me when I try and download clockwork and then if i try and relaunch it without rebooting it will run and download clock but then just stays at su request and then force closes..i imagine because it force closes the first time i try and click the clock button.
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Please send me a logcat using the free Android Log Collector app from the Market to [email protected]

Koush said:
Please send me a logcat using the free Android Log Collector app from the Market to [email protected]
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sent..it looked pretty long though

Okay I wiped everything and reloaded ROM using clockwork and then installed ROM Manager and choose manual override and the su permisssion screen came up correct and choose allow all and then hit recovery rom and nothing happens..it doesnt force close though

I don't know if it was my rom or what but I wiped everything and loaded a new version of rom and now rom manager boots to recovery!! I think it had something to do with Su permission cause this time it went to the correct screen and I selected allow all always and its all good.
I flashed right from phone! I purchased rom manager to support your wonderful work.
Thank you!
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[RECOVERY] ClockworkMod Recovery for Galaxy S i9000 (FINAL! SAFE!)

First things first, if you flashed a previous version of Clockwork Recovery using Odin, FLASH BACK TO A STOCK KERNEL. (There's another link in the forum to do this, I can't find it at the moment)
This recovery is *very* safe to use. It does NOT flash your kernel; it is a completely uninvasive recovery method.
How it works: The recovery is packaged as an update.zip that you run from STOCK recovery. The update.zip unpacks Clockwork Recovery onto the ramdisk and restarts recovery. When you reboot, it reverts back to the original, unmodified, stock recovery. So, you will need to keep the recovery on the root of your SD card as an update.zip, and apply the zip every time you want to start Clockwork.
HOWEVER, if you use ROM Manager, all of the recovery installation and management are done for you!
Installation instructions:
Download ROM Manager from the Market.
Flash Recovery.
Choose Galaxy S i9000 as your phone.
Accept the Superuser prompt.
Use ROM Manager to create a Backup.
On the very FIRST boot of Clockwork, you may need to manually select "reinstall packages" if Clockwork does not start. You should only ever have to do this once. It will be automatic from then on.
Watch the backup go!
That's it! This is completely painless and safe! There is no need for Odin anymore to replace the recovery or flash updates!
If you appreciate my work, please buy the Premium version of ROM Manager!
If you can't seem to get ROM Manager off the market, you can get it from my homepage:
http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html

Just installed! Working great!

Installed with ROM manager. Works like a charm! Thanx alot Koush!

works fine

works like a charm

Installed, everything working without problems.
To install roms with clockwork we need roms in *.zip format? Where to get them?
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Just got my phone
will try it after charging ]
YOU ARE THE MAN
thank you and thanks all Xda devs and members

hmm ... I know this might sound stupid but, acually GSG is my first android phone, though I know how to flash roms with odin and how to apply update.zip and all that but what is the difference between this and ClockworkMod Recovery ?? and does it use the same components as odin ? (I mean CODE, CSC, MODEM and Pit) ?

Stickied. Closing the other one. Not sure why you would start a new thread instead of modifying the old one though...

Thanks Koush your the man. Coming from a htc magic I hate this odin bull

Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
EDIT: After rebooting my phone and trying to open ROM Manager again, I have some sort of "Recovery Failure" screen with 3 options:
- Recovery mode is broken.
- ROM Manager doesn't reboot.
- Other.
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Arkymedes said:
Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
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Do you already have an update.zip on your internal sdcard? If yes, rename it, and then should boot just fine!

kalpik said:
Do you already have an update.zip on your internal sdcard? If yes, rename it, and then should boot just fine!
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Ahhh... I guess I'm not very used to this "Internal SD Card" thing... there was the update.zip I used to root the phone there and I only checked my regular External SD.
Everything is fine now, sorry for bothering.

Arkymedes said:
Hmm... did every step and in the first reboot, after using rom manager to create a backup, it was supposed to go to the cloclworkmod recovery screen as mentioned, but instead it goes to the regular recovery screen.
Bug? I'm using the JM1 FW
EDIT: After rebooting my phone and trying to open ROM Manager again, I have some sort of "Recovery Failure" screen with 3 options:
- Recovery mode is broken.
- ROM Manager doesn't reboot.
- Other.
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I had the same issue. Must have been the update.zip, but I didnt remove it, just pressed the other option, went into manual recovery mode, rebooted went into rom manager and backed up my files. Worked a charm

Does this mean there will be no more work on a permanent recovery solution?
I have the Korean version M110S - and it does not have the standard recovery (it is crippled - no apply:update.zip). Is there and abd command to "apply update.zip" ?

May I ask if this work for me using mimocan ext4 fix on the backup/restore?

This may sound stupid, but I'm kinda new to Android modding (SGS is my first droid, moving here from WiMo on SE-X1) and.... What is Clockwork?

So if I ever needed to send this phone in for warranty purposes, I could just flash the backup of my stock ROM in and I should be good to go?

does this method works for captivate and vibrant???
edit: just install/ captivate and vibrant option available.

Rithina said:
May I ask if this work for me using mimocan ext4 fix on the backup/restore?
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Worked for me with mimocan ext4 fix

Amon Ra Recovery?

Hi, I just download Fresh 3.2 with Clockwork Recovery but I need Amon Ra to use the Updater. I tried following Amon Ra's method he posted but neither one works (Idk how to do the first one). Using the terminal app on my phone after I type in "flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery-RA-evo-v1.8.0.img" it says "error opening /sdcard/recovery-RA-evo-v1.8.0.img: No such file or directory "
The file is in the root of my SD card so why isn't it recognizing it?

Nevermind I got it. The command wasmissing a "-".

For future reference, it's even easier to just download ROM Manager and use that to install RA. It installed the latest version for me yesterday, no problem.

SilverZero said:
For future reference, it's even easier to just download ROM Manager and use that to install RA. It installed the latest version for me yesterday, no problem.
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+1.. the same for me.
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SilverZero said:
For future reference, it's even easier to just download ROM Manager and use that to install RA. It installed the latest version for me yesterday, no problem.
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My Rom manager uses Clockwork???!!1 Which Rom manager uses Amon Ra?

alraune said:
My Rom manager uses Clockwork???!!1 Which Rom manager uses Amon Ra?
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You you can still use clockwork with amon_ra, you just can't backup with it. If you have the premium, you can still download roms, or use it to go to recovery.

alraune said:
My Rom manager uses Clockwork???!!1 Which Rom manager uses Amon Ra?
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There is really no need to use a ROM manager at all, just do a little reading and learn to flash things manually (good place to start is my post here: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/18690-alot-of-the-same-questions-for-google-apps-market/ see post #2). The instructions are specific to cyanogen, but will work for any rom. no need to flash the gapps package if you are using a sense rom.
Way to revive an old thread btw.

Problem is when you rename recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan file into recovery.img you don't realize that recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan file has already an .img file extension. By mistake you rename recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan.img as recovery.img.img
Because your operating system hides file extensions as default.
Just rename recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0-cyan file as image only.
I know i am a supreme human being.

[Q] ClockWork Recovery App question.

Hi
I root my HTC EVO about 2 weeks ago. When Unrevok ask me to install the custom recovery I answer yes (CWM V4.0.1.4). Everything went great. After that I download the Rom Manager App to manage my backups.
On the Rom Manager App when I press on "Backup Current Rom" I get this prompt "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing!. Install the recovery though Rom Manager First".
It is safe to install the ClockworkMod Recovery even do I have CWM V4.0.1.4 ?
Thanks in advance.

Yes, rom manager will just re-flash it to the latest version.

Do yourself a favor and get Amon Ra and dump ROM Manager

HipKat said:
Do yourself a favor and get Amon Ra and dump ROM Manager
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Active_Matrix said:
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Amon-Ra vs. CWM
Is it really that much better? I kinda like the ROM manager that came with my CM7 Rom, and I know that prefers CWM.

Or do yourself a bigger favor and install twrp.

Journeyman83 said:
Is it really that much better? I kinda like the ROM manager that came with my CM7 Rom, and I know that prefers CWM.
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ROM Manager has a history of not being as efficient as it promises and making mistakes in backups. It also will not do a correct wipe of your system before flashing a new ROM, which creates problems, potentially, with FC's, etc...

atyoung said:
Or do yourself a bigger favor and install twrp.
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TWRP is not there yet. They lack the wipe boot feature which will screw up alot of ROM installs. Ra Recovery is still the way to go, plus all ROMS that have issues flashing in CWM have issues in TWRP. Once TeamWin fixes the major issues with TWRP then it will be the recovery to use. Presently it is still flawed.

If I have ROM manager can I just download and flash RA Recovery over that without having to flash the PC36IMG.zip? I'm new to this so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.

LandOfLinkin said:
If I have ROM manager can I just download and flash RA Recovery over that without having to flash the PC36IMG.zip? I'm new to this so I just want to make sure I'm doing this right.
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If you have the android sdk installed on your system just boot to your bootloader and select fastboot. Then place the file in .img format in your android-sdk-windows\tools directory then rename the file to something shorter, I usually go with amonra.img. then navigate to that directory with cmd. Then type fastboot flash recover amonra.img this will flash the new recovery. However if you don't have the sdk installed then you will need the pc36img.zip format place it on the root if your sdcard and reboot the phone while holding power+vol up. The bootloader should detect the file and ask if you wish to apply the update. Press vol up to accept the update, and it will flash the new recovery. Now once you do this you will need to make all new backups because any backup made with CWM will not work with ra recovery.
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Thanks for the help. I actually downloaded Android terminal emulator and flashed it from the SD card. You guys are just too darn helpful!
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Thanks guys for the help.

Clockwork android app + link2sd + googleplay failure
I buyed the app but cant install the 42kb premium key :-/
please help

Updgrading Clockwork mod

During the summer I rooted my phone and i have Clockworkmod v2.5.0.7 installed.
I am trying to upgrade to the latest version and it never seems to stick.
Using Rom manager. It says that im flashed to v5.0.2.0 yet when i boot to recovery from rom manager it loads to v2.5.0.7. Does the same thing if i choose to flash a rom though ROM MANAGER. each time v2XXX loads
So i fire up recover and try loading the zip. Bingo it works. The screen turns from green to blue and V5.0.2.0 is now there for me to use. But if i reboot and later return to recovery its back to the old V2xxxx..
Any ideas why this is happening? Is it really necessary to move on to the V5xxxx versions? I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
Thanks in advance..

When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.

Meaple said:
When you use Rom Manager to flash a rom or reboot into recovery from Rom Manager, it boots the recovery from a downloaded recovery file. It's known as fake flash or in other words, it's temporary. If you want a permanent recovery, you would need to flash a recovery.img through fastboot.
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if your Desire is s-off, then ROM Manager flashes recovery normally.
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rom manager now works only if u have s-off..no fake flash anymore is possible

revolutionary.io will upgrade cwm if you want

I think this thread answers one of my own questions but will ask it anyway to confirm; when I rooted my Desire (via Unrevoked) a few months back, the ROM Manager app that continues to be updated via the market offers the option to upgrade the version of CWM... is it OK to proceed with this?
I've been wary of upgrading from the version installed via the rooting process, just in case, but seeing this thread has made me think there isn't actually an issue with whatever version of recovery you have installed?

TKG26 said:
I was going to try out some new roms and they failed to load yesterday through v2.5.0.7 yet the rom i had been using loaded fine.
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Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.

To upgrade recovery (or hboots) I always use Fastboot Commander and it's very easy to use and never let me down.

erklat said:
Out of curiosity - what roms you tried to load? As far as I know 2.5.0.7 was the last cwm supporting both amend and edify scripting and it never failed for me personally.
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I agree. Unless you need to maintain an ext 4 partition (as 2.5.0.7 converts it to lower apparently when backing up) I see no reason to change from 2.5.0.7.
I use it even today. Best recovery IMHO.