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I've posted a couple new topics, and sent out few private messages. No responses. I am just having the worst time with this phone.
And I don't mean to sound like its the end of the world or anything, its just a lot of little things irritating me with this phone ever since I've rooted it.
I rooted with nand and installed damage control. Everything seemed fine, and then I was having permissions issues (i think, still waiting for a response to THAT post). Then applications would load up and then force close, and reinstalling didnt work. I was having problems with the camera.
I'm not sure I did it right, but I did a nand backup, wiped everything. then switched to a rooted supersonic rom. Loaded all that up, and everything seemed fine, camera was fine. Shortly afterwards though, things started messing up again. I think im having problems with the permissions. Handcent downloaded an update, and then couldnt install because of "insufficient memory". I backed up with titanium, wiped, then rebooted, and handcent worked. But now my camera doesnt work.
There are two options I can think of. First, I want to get completely back to factory, a fresh out of the box HTC Evo. No signs of root, just back to working 100% with no flaws like it did before. Flash whatever updates Sprint sends out and go on with life.
Or second, I like some of the benefits of being rooted, such as wi-fi tethering. Is there a specific way to reapply root, or to reapply roms? I'm kind of thinking of completely starting over. like a brand new stock evo being rooted for the first time. I'm nervous that maybe I didn't flash that supersonic rom right. I wouldn't mind having a different rom but everyone has mixed reviews/problems on every single rom created so far. If there was a nice rooted rom with everything working, 4g, wimax, camera, everything, thats the one I want. I don't really need any special frills or fanciness.
either post here, or my google talk is [email protected]. if anyone could give me a hand with this, I'd appreciate it, I'd even donate through paypal. I just want to get this phone straightened out, I got iphone kids laughing at me!
First, please ditch the giant sig.
Second, there have been a lot of posts regarding damage controls rom and problems, so i think that's the start of it.
I would try fresh's rom and see if it works for you, after doing a complete wipe again. Of course, don't bother with a nandroid backup or restore since all that does is restore the rom, and your rom is messed up.
So in recovery, go into the wipe menu and wipe it all and flash fresh 5.3.
Alright sig is gone, sorry.
I have a hard time keeping up with the hundreds of posts in those various rom threads. I'm not too lazy to search, but I just can't find anything. And then with work and everything taking up time, its tough to follow.
I'll download Fresh's rom right now, no back ups or anything, and give it a shot. thanks for the tip!
Would DamageControl rom still have any affect on my system now, since i am now on the supersonic 1.32.651.1?
Hi all!
I have recently joined the forums because I have heard that you guys are the best when it comes to smart phones including rooting and what not. I have scoured the forums looking for direct answers on how to root my EVO 4G and what I need to use for the best and easiest root. I work as a Network Administrator so I am familiar different technologies and different O/S's including many variations of Linux.
So, moving forward, I want to root my EVO. I have installed all of the latest updates released by both Sprint and HTC. But I have seem so many different ways to do this most notably using Unrevoked. But I've read in the forums that Unrevoked may not work well with the Kernel or Software I have?
I found the leaked Gingerbread and Sense 3.0 image (I believe it was an image) on the forums here and thought about using that one but with so many different ways to "root" an EVO I have no idea on where to begin. I know that many have posted about this before and I hate to be "that guy" whom posts it again but I truly need some expert advice here.
First off, which root method should I use? Secondly, which custom ROM should I use or should I use a custom ROM? I backup my data and apps with myBackup Pro by the way.
And here are the exact specs for my phone:
Software Information:
Android Version:
2.2 (Froyo of course)
Baseband Version:
2.15.00.11.19
Kernel Version:
2.6.32.17-gee557fd
htc-kernel"ampersand"and18-2 #15
Build Number:
3.70.651.1
Browser Version:
WebKit 3.1
PRI Version
1.90_003
PRL Version:
60677
If I'm posting in the wrong forum please do not hesitate to move my thread, I will not be offended like some people are. Lol!
Thanks guys!
Use unrevoked, it should root all versions of the Evo. There were compatibility issues at one point, but I believe that has all been fixed.
You will need to uninstall HTC Sync if you have it installed. If you haven't installed it, do so & then uninstall it. You will also need to install the modified hboot drivers if you're using Windows. You can get those from the unrevoked site. Make sure you have usb debugging turned on before you start the root process & that you've uninstalled anything that syncs with your phone - Doubletwist for one example. If you have problems, disable your antivirus as well.
If unrevoked works for you, I would make sure to do a nandroid backup via recovery before you do anything else. Unrevoked flashes Clockworkmod Recovery. I prefer Amon Ra, but whichever you use is up to you. You can switch recoveries through Rom Manager.
Also make sure you've backed up your RSA keys. Clockwork does this automatically with each backup. You can choose to include/exclude with AR, or do a separate backup of only your wimax keys.
The new GingerSense roms, while neat, are probably not a good idea for a first rom... or even a daily driver. They're going to be really buggy.
If you need anything else or another method to root, I'll be around. Good luck & have fun!
Sweet!
Thanks a ton PlainJane!
I won't be able to try this until tomorrow but rest assured I will try and most likely succeed with your advice. Speaking of Nandroid, I haven't been able to find it on the Android Market, unless I'm over looking it. So if you were doing it, which recovery/backup method would you use and where can you find it if not in the Android Market?
Again, thank you so much and I will probably wait until I get Nandroid or one of the others before I proceed. Hopefully that will be tomorrow.
Regards!
PAinguIN
Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.
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Nandroid is just the name for the backup made in recovery. If I remember right, ClockworkMod doesn't call it that, nor does Rom Manager (the dev that made Clockwork made Rom Manager to go with it). Recovery is where you'll be doing all of your flashing & backing up. Titanium Backup (or MyBackup) will be needed to back up your apps + data so you can restore them after flashing a new Rom. Doing a nandroid backup is needed in case anything goes wrong or you just want to go back to the ROM/setup you had before. Nandroid backups take an image of your phone at that given time. When you restore a nandroid, it looks exactly as it did when you made the backup. Your rom/kernel are restored as well as your homescreens, apps, everything. They really come in handy. I'd suggest keeping at least one, along with your RSA keys if they're done separately, on your computer just in case. You cannot restore backups made with Amon Ra with Clockwork or vice versa, so I would go ahead and decide which recovery you want to use to avoid having to switch around later.
To get to recovery, you need to power down the phone. Hold the volume down button & the power button at the same time until you see a white screen - that's the bootloader. At the top in should say Supersonic something something ship S-off. The s-off means that you're nand unlocked, fully rooted. Use the volume buttons to move up & down through the menu. Hit the volume down button to highlight "recovery" then the power button to select it. You'll see the white Evo splashscreen & then you'll be in recovery. I'm not sure how Clockwork is laid out because I haven't used it in a while, but there should be a backup/restore option in the recovery menu. Choose that & the rest is pretty self-explanatory. In Amon Ra, choose backup/restore then nandroid backup. You'll be given options what to backup (only in AR, not CWM). Leave the first three checked and do your backup. If you want to include wimax keys, just use the volume down button to highlight it & power to select it. You'll see the box next to it checked. I would suggest doing a separate backup of only your wimax keys after doing a full backup. Just uncheck the first three and then check only wimax.
Remember, before flashing a new ROM, wipe everything in recovery but the SD card. When flashing anything else that goes with the rom - kernels, themes, add-ons, etc - just wipe cache & dalvik cache. In Clockworkmod, I think dalvik is under advanced.
Let me know how it goes!
EDIT: I'm not sure of what wipe options are in Clockwork, and I don't want you to accidentally wipe something on your SD or something else that you shouldn't. So if you use CWM, just wipe data, dalvik, and cache. Or you can use a format all zip (King's format all will work with Clockwork) to do it. In Amon Ra, it's safe to do what I said before, even though data & dalvik/cache should be all that's necessary.
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PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN
PAinguINx said:
PlainJane,
Thank you again for your advice. So from what I understand this is what I need to do. First, I need to "root" my device using Unrevoked. Once rooted I then boot my phone up in "Recovery Mode" and at that point I will be able to make my Nandroid image via the recovery method I choose. Correct?
But, where and when do I install these mods? For instance, just for an example, if I wanted to use ClockworkMod would it already show up in Recovery since my phone is now rooted or do I have to install it separately?
This gets more and more confusing as time goes by. I would certainly want to make my Nandroid backup before I would root the phone I would imagine but doing so is not possible unless the device is already rooted correct?
I'm going to give this a shot right now starting with the first set of instructions you gave me.
I hope all goes well.
Thanks and please feel free to respond with any additional information I may need or if it sounds like I have confused myself, which I believe I have.... Lol!
PAinguIN
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Unrevoked automatically installs ClockworkMod Recovery, so no need to do that. If you want to use Amon Ra - I think it is the more popular, easy to use option - you will have to flash it over CWM. You can do this easily by downloading Rom Manager from the market & choosing "flash alternate recovery". Other functions of Rom Manager won't work without Clockwork, but trust me, learning to do everything manually will really help you out.
Since it seems that you're a little confused on this point - you only have one recovery at a time. For the Evo, there's ClockworkMod & Amon Ra. You have to have one or the other to boot into recovery, otherwise you'll get a black screen with a red triangle in the corner.
If for some reason flashing AR doesn't work from Rom Manager, let me know & I'll walk you through the manual installation. If you just want to learn that method, I'm all for that too. I just don't want to confuse you with that information unless you need it.
You cannot do a nandroid backup until you root the phone. It's just one more limitation of not being rooted. You have to have a custom recovery installed, and I don't think this is possible without being rooted. You can go ahead & do the backup once you've rooted, just be sure to switch recoveries first if that's something you plan on doing. I'm not saying Clockwork is bad, I just recommend AR for multiple reasons... one of them being that Amon Ra supports both edify & amend scripting. With newer versions of ClockworkMod, you can only flash edify scripted zips, older versions are amend only. If you flash enough you'll run into a problem with this one-or-the-other way of doing things.
Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask. I found that watching videos on YouTube helped me feel more at ease before my first time rooting and my first time flashing. Once I saw how easy it was, I felt more comfortable doing it. Read the stickies and any kind of guides you can find in the Evo forums. I've learned a lot just by reading the Evo Q&A section.
If you want to pm me with any more questions, go ahead. You can ask them in the thread too, if you want... either way.
I'd like to hear how everything goes for you. Most people are happy with how easy unrevoked is, but a few do have problems. Anyway, good luck!
PlainJane,
Well, I've installed the modified HBOOT drivers successfully. I have ran UnrEVOked3 and am now in the process of creating my first NANDROID backup. I just stuck with ClockWorkMod because once I actually ran UnrEVOked3 and it finished it reboot my EVO into recovery mode. So rather than rebooting my phone again and flashing Amon Ra (and possibly running into any problems) I just stuck with CWM. I may regret this later but at this point I am just glad that my phone hasn't been "bricked". Lol!
It's still running the NANDROID backup right now. Now I need to clarify what needs to be done when that has finished. I guess I need to flash a custom ROM of my choosing right? Will I do this using ROMmanager or do I need to d/l one from the net somewhere first?
Also, you mention something about wiping the data on my phone aside from the SD Card. I only need to do this just before I flash a "New ROM" correct? Or should I go ahead and do this now?
Anyway, it looks like "so far so good" in my case. Thanks to you that is! ; ) And the backup has completed, I'm going to see if I can boot into my phone now.
Oh, and this is what I am seeing in CWM:
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.6.0.1
- reboot system now
- apply sdcard:update.zip
- wipe data/factory reset
- wipe cache partition
- install zip from sdcard
- backup and restore
- mounts and storage
- advanced
- +++++Go Back+++++
So that's what you see with ClockWorkMod these days.
Now, back to what I was saying. Do I choose a custom ROM now or am I good with what I have? Also, about wiping, that's only done when I flash a new ROM?
Thanks yet again PlainJane!
PAinguIN
I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol
fikusunc said:
I created the attached document for myself when I was learning how to root and what all steps that need to be taken. Its not perfect, but when i root a phone for my friends, i still reference this and make changes when needed.
/*** Follow these steps at your own risk. Like is said, these are the steps that I use and this is NOT an "official" guide.
/*** I take no responsibility for "bricking" during this process
I have to put some sort of disclaimer in here, lol
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Thanks!
So what ROM/Kernel is the best or coolest to have these days? I already tried to uninstall some factory installed apps with no luck. I also tried to use the "Root" features in JuiceDefender and when I allowed the app to scan to see if my Kernel/Rom supported CPU controlling it said that it was not supported. So I certainly need to get a new ROM/Kernel.
Perhaps you guide will hold the secret!
Thanks guy!
PAinguIN
yw, check out this site. This person put together a page that makes looking for roms very easy. http://evo4g.roms-db.com/
As far as what is the "best" or "coolest", that just depends on what you want. I basically wanted a rom that that was stable and had hotspot and tethering enabled and working. I think that I have had almost every rom that is on above link and I finally decided on sticking with the Eternal Prophecy rom. I kept going back to it so now im sticking with it until I get more knowledge to build my own.
I dont know enough about Kernals to flash one or make modifications, yet.
to uninstall some apps that come default on a rom, I use "root explorer".
just check out the section of the file called:
######## TO REMOVE BLOATING HTC / SPRINT APPS, FOLLOW THE STEPS HERE OR KEEP READING ########
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So I downloaded the Eternal Prophecy v5.7 ROM. Do I place this in the root of my SD card? Also, can I flash this rom using ROM Manager or do I have to do it through ClockWorkMod recovery? Do I have to wipe my phone beforehand if I use ROM Manager?
One other question, how do I choose a Kernel and what is the benefit of using a different Kernel. For instance, if I use this Kernel "Netarchy 4.3.4 CFS HAVS SBC More Aggressive" what will it do for me? And do I have to have a custom kernel for a custom rom?
Thanks!
By the way, your guide was helpful. I like what has been done in the Eternal Prophecy Rom, I haven't installed it yet but based on the change notes I've read it sounds great. Although I don't see why someone would want to remove Adobe Reader. I have to work with PDF files a great deal and I also read e-books in PDF format as well. I guess I'll just install it after I flash the ROM.
Thanks again,
PAinguIN
Wow, I missed a lot overnight apparently, hah.
First off, don't wipe data unless you're about to flash! Otherwise you won't have any data. Sorry for the confusion.
I'm not familiar with the Rom you chose, but I'm sure it'll be fine. The most popular roms are usually on the first couple of pages of the Evo Development forums, but popularity shouldn't be the deciding factor. Run through the thread for the rom & just make sure it's stable & people aren't having a lot of problems. It's usually best to choose a rom that's up to date, but I stuck with CM6 until CM7 nightly 20-something was out because I liked how stable it was & didn't feel the need to jump on the Gingerbread bandwagon.
Okay, since you downloaded the ROM externally, you can't flash through Rom Manager... I think. I've never used it so I'm not sure. But for learning purposes, go ahead and do it manually. Read the thread for the rom - at least the first few posts, not the whole thing - and make sure there isn't anything else that's required before flashing. If you don't need anything else, you can go ahead and flash the rom by itself. You can flash kernels, etc later. Now I'm not exactly sure where things are in Clockwork (thanks for showing me the first level, it sounds odd compared to what I'm used to), but you need to wipe cache, dalvik cache & data. I have heard that dalvik is under advanced, but I don't remember if the rest is under wipe data/factory reset or not.
After you've wiped, choose install zip from sd card. All of the zip files are at the bottom, so it's easiest to hit the volume up button to take you to the bottom unstead of going down from the top. If I remember right, Clockwork makes you choose yes in the middle of a bunch of noes. I think that's what I miss the least about CWM, lol. When it finishes flashing just choose to reboot, and hopefully you'll be done with that ugly boot animation & sound from Sprint :]
Okay, on to kernels. Most likely all you need is a CFS kernel. BFS kernels give you better quadrant scores, but quadrant scores are just a competition for teenage boys. You can use them for testing purposes, but take them with a grain of salt. There's a great kernel starter guide. I have it saved, but just search for kernel starter guide & you should be able to find it. With a havs kernel, you can't change your cpu speed without interfering with the kernel. Havs kernels do a good job of undervolting to save battery when the phone isn't in use, eliminating the need for SetCPU or anything similar. You will still be able to use the app, but doing so will kind of fight the kernel. Make sure you choose an AOSP kernel for AOSP & Sense for Sense. Also take into account if you're on 2.2 or 2.3, but this mostly matters for AOSP right now. You do not need a custom kernel, every rom comes with one. You can choose a different one to suit your needs.
I'm sure I missed something, so if I think of anything else, I'll let you know
Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!
PAinguINx said:
Ok, well, I've already bought SetCPU and I've purchase Rom Manager Pro and Bloat Freezer. Problem though, I was going to try and d/l and flash a rom using Rom Manager but when I press download ROM it tells me this: "You must have ClockworkMod Recovery installed before continuing! Install the recovery through ROM Manager first."
But I already have ClockworkMod installed because Unrevoked did it for me. If I click on Reboot into Recovery it works fine. But why does it tell me I need to install ClockworkMod recovery when it's already installed? It gives me the choice to install it but I don't want to reinstall it and cause any problems you know?
What should I do? Should I use Rom Manager at all now or should I just work manually?
Thanks!
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This was more of a curiosity question to be honest with you. I have copied the ROM and Calkulin's combo update to the root of my SD card and am performing my NANDROID right now. I decided to try out "Myn’s Warm TwoPointTwo" ROM instead of Eternal Prophecy. I will probably flash a Cyanogen ROM later and perform a NANDROID of that as well so I can switch back and forth.
I really appreciate all of your help PlainJane, oh, and Fikusunc too!
This is truly the best forum for Android/Linux development and modifications. I'll spread the word about XDA to my friends for sure. ; )
Still curious about that Rom Manager thing though...strange....
I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.
Wow! Quick learner! It took me some time to wrap my head around all this stuff! You had good coaches also. Good luck and have fun with your "new" Evo!
New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful
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New EVO user as well and I'm eager to get rooted and get CM7 flashed. I've read that WiMax isn't working with most custom ROMs. I'm wondering, if I decide to restore back to stock ROM, would WiMax work again? (assuming of course I back up my RSA keys) or am I SOL after flashing a new ROM?
Thanks all! Just upgraded from an HTC Rhodium 400 and am still new to this whole thing.
BTW - thanks for the thread, It's been useful
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this is actually not correct. wimax works with most roms. EVEN CM7 NOW! it took 4 months for 2 guys to reverse engineer closed-source wimax drivers to the evo. so now you have 'MOAR GEES' as we call it, on cm7. even if you flash a rom w/o 4g, you'l still have it when you come back to one that does.
btw, SAVE YOUR RSA KEYS! have at least one nandroid bakcup wiht wimax.img so that if you keys (the way into sprint's 4g network) gets corrupted, you aren't sol.
plainjane said:
I bought the Pro key too when I first rooted. I used it to download one ROM that I never flashed and I haven't touched it since. I learned to do everything manually from the get-go... I think I just didn't trust Rom Manager to do its job. As for the error, I got that too with the premium version. I think I downgraded to a previous version & it worked for me. You can also try reflashing the recovery through Rom Manager, that may help. If not, go to settings and clear cache/data for Rom Manager & then try again. I really think you'd benefit from learning to do it manually... it's not hard at all, and if you're in a pinch where your phone won't boot, it'll help to know your way around the recovery. If you can get Rom Manager working and want to use it, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with using it. You've already paid for it.
I think you'll really enjoy Myn's, especially coming from stock. It took me some time to flash a custom rom after I rooted, but once I did I was amazed to see what I'd been missing.
Let me know how you like Myn's, though. I've pretty much settled between CM & MIUI, but I feel it's time for something new. I haven't used Sense in what feels like forever, so I may give it a shot.
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Painjane,
Actually I think I'm going to stick with your advice and handle everything manually from now own. While I could probably reflash recovery through ROM Manager and get it working properly recovery does work. So as they say, if it's not broken don't fix it right? Lol!
I'll keep ROM Manager though, since I've paid for it, and possibly try to use it when I flash my next ROM. Just to see what happens.
One of the guys posted in the thread something about how fast I caught on and that I had a good coach. Thanks! I think I did catch on pretty quickly, and yes I had a very good coach. Lol!
I've actually owned my EVO since its day of release. I pre-ordered that device once I heard of it and did my research. I originally wanted the Nexus One but settled on the EVO as the NEXUS One was only available through T-Mobile or something. Nothing against T-Mobile, they just don't offer good service in my area.
Anyway, it took me this long to buildup the courage to finally root my phone. The last thing I wanted was a $600 paper weight you know? Lol! But as smooth as this process went I would recommend this process to anyone.
And PlainJane, Myn's is working great! It has an amazing interface and is just plain (no pun intended) sweet!. Here's something for everyone else out there which I did differently.
Instead of wiping ALL of the data on my phone I only wiped the dalvik and cache instead of doing a complete wipe. This way everything was still setup exactly the way I had it before the flash. i.e. E-Mail, Contacts, SMS logs, music, photos, etc. Moreover, wireless tether works great, Wimaxx still turns on but we don't have 4G around here so I've never been able to use it. Bluetooth, WiFi, GPS work just fine too.
In fact, there is nothing that doesn't work the way it should. So, in my opinion, wiping your device of all of it's data is not necessary but I did not develop the ROMS so check with the devs before doing anything out of the norm.
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PAinguIN
Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
I am running OSX Snowleopard, and have gotten Heimdall to run, but it will not recognize my epic when I put it into download mode. I feel like I am out of options, but I do have one more idea, and I wanted to run this past all of you ...
Since I cannot get my Heimdall to find my epic when I put it into download mode, would it be feasible for me to get a microsd reader (I found one at walgreens for 20 bucks), put an update.zip on it of like a stock eclair or froyo ( I hardly even care which version now, I just would like a working phone...) and run the update from sd via the still working clockwork recovery??
If this would work, it would rock, but I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere. I don't see why it would work, but then again I am not a wizard.
Any suggestions? Comments? Reassurance or Guidance?
If anyone could point me towards the best update.zip to try and push via the microsd reader, I would be eternally grateful. Or in general, if you have a better idea, I'd love to hear it...
Thank you so much in advance, to anyone willing to give me a shot or lend a hand...
blueoxide said:
Hey guys, let me begin for apologizing if this is in the wrong place. I've been trying to read as much as I possibly can regarding these problems, and I'm stressed, and tired.
That out of the way, allow me to attempt to explain...
My Epic 4g seems to be "bricked" but only in the "soft way" (I've seen this term used before, and it seems to fit.)
It will still boot into Clockwork 2.5~ but no further, if I try to boot it farther, it will hang at the Samsung Screen and play the music.
Before anyone flames me, please, try to remember what it is like to have no idea what the hell is what after something weird happens.
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I have NEVER tried this but it sounds like its worth a shot...i would try CM7 just to get something booting (and its a small file to DL).
But you should definitely "find" a copy of windows (google it *cough cough*) and use bootcamp (search in spotlight) to partition your hard drive and install it and have a mac with osx and windows lol i have xp but you can try newer...
its pretty easy (instructions are detailed) and you will never have to worry about "soft bricks" because you have odin
Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
blueoxide said:
Yeah, I've toyed with the idea of bootcamping again, it's just such a damn pain, and so many of the "findable" windows on google are infected with godknows what. By CM7 do you mean cyanogen mod 7? I've never used cyanogen mod, if you could point me in a good direction I'd appreciate it.
Also, thank you for the civil reply... I have noticed a degree of distast for those who really don't know thier **** on many fourms, but I figure, everyone is starting at some point....
So should I look for a update.zip for CM7 and attempt to push it? Are there other considerations I should take into account? I really see no reason the microsd reader wouldn't work, and given that my phone is rooted and has clockwork operational on it (god willing it's as workable as it seems)....
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Your welcome, and HERE is CM7 (cyanogen mod 7). This is just to see if your phone still works (seems to me like it will) and after that you can root with clockwork 3.0.0.6 (if you want ext4). Be sure to have an EXT4 compatible rom when u boot into CWM. You will need to flash it after it converts your filesystem.
If you dont mind having a "dead" phone i suggest trying bootcamp...some files dont have "god knows what" and you will be able to odin EC05 prerooted. ALOT easier lol by dead i mean get no calls and sms, etc..
Just download file, put on sd card and flash...should work. I hope it works for you!
I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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I'm going to give this a shot -- Got nothing to loose either way, and I've heard sweet things about cyanogen anyway. I'm trying to see all this as a learning experience. I was a bit freaked to try custom roms before, but at this point, why the hell not, right?
One question: what is this EXT4 business? I've seen it popping up, and I think I missed the boat. What would you suggest for a EXT4 compatible rom to use? ( Are you on an epic, by the way?)
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Lmao yea i have an epic. And ext4 is just a faster filesystem than RFS which is stock. Also most roms have journaling off which means you
cant just pull your battery and stuff like that because you will have corrupt data (most likely). Journaling enabled (like in stock with RFS)
will simply keep a journal of what the system does and in case of an improper shutdown (battery pull or phone falls and batt. pops out or
batt. drain to 0) when it turns on it will "recover" from where it left off. The only bad thing about this is that it writes to the nand (i
think) ALOT...maybe more than RFS but really it would kill your phone in 3-4 years and you probably wont keep it that long anyway lol
I usually run bonsai but you have to sign up to their forum for the download...i dont think im allowed to post a link. but ive heard Syndicate
rom frozen is also VERY good. And quick. But in short, if you want a speedy epic, choose EXT4 lol
Also you can try MIUI 1.3.5 rom..Its really cool. Sort of like best of iphone and android in one. Im actually one of the guys trying to port it now...
but im not a dev lol
Good luck!! and trust me, custom roms are fun. Especially when you become a flash-a-holic lol
Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Yeah, I get the feeling it's pretty addicting. I'm going to start by flashing CM7, as you said, just to make sure the thing isn't an expensive paperweight. Next I am either going to try Syndicate or try out the froyo stock w/out bloatware....Since I had it rooted months before the OTA happend, I'd been stuck on eclair. I may just be happy with a working phone, but as this point, i've tasted blood.
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Lol it happens to everyone xD
And let me know if it works...if not you will have to try the bootcamp way
Will do...
Thanks again for your help! I truly appreciate it!
As long as you're rooted with a working ClockWorkMod and can manually access your sd card, you can flash anything to your phone. You may want to make sure you format Data, Cache, And Dalvik Cache 3 times before flashing a rom though. Also, you may want to upgrade to ClockWorkMod 3. I have it referenced in my signature. It will need to be booted into first, while it converts to ext4, then a suitable rom like Syndicate Rom Frozen will have to be flashed.
Have you tried to fix it with an update.zip? My assumption is that this would not work for a number of reasons.
Your questions are not new, and have been asked more than once in their own threads as well as general question threads. GOOGLE search your question with "XDA" in the search bar. It's your friend, and it will answer your questions.
Just to recap:
1. CWM 2.5 or 3
2. Flash suitable rom
3. Shutdown properly, no reboot or battery pull!
4. Boot into CWM
5. Backup, and then immediately restore! This will re-engage Journaling and prevent future data corruption
6. Use Google! The more questions that are asked repeatedly, the more threads people will have to dig through to find answers.
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
blueoxide said:
Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
I have been using google extensively, and it's just that many times I would get conflicting or not quite as clear as I was hoping answers, but yes I understand what you are trying to point out here. Syndicate seems like my best best, and as such I am going to need to get to CWM 3. I went to the thread, I am assuming I should use the new version (EB13) as opposed to the the DK28, correct? Since Syndicate is an EC05, I should go for the newer one?
Excuse me for my ignorance, again, we all start somewhere...
Thanks!
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I can also recommend Bonsai and Midnight as fantastic roms. I use them all, but Syndicate is my current. Syndicate EB13 is the one you want. EC05 didn't change the firmware, it only modified the modem. I've tested EB13 as well as EC05 with Syndicate, switching back and forth, with no visible problems. If your phone is on EB13 or EC05, then Syndicate Frozen 1.1 should work nicely, it's linked in my signature.
Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
blueoxide said:
Yeah, unfortunatly it was stuck on DK18 for a varitety of reasons.... I hope that doesn't change anything...
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If you're able to use Odin on your computer, just use my CWM Odin link. You'll find EB13 pre-rooted with CWM 3 and you can flash that straight from the computer. Just be sure you have a Rom on your SD card first so it's ready to install from the recovery menu.
Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Odin is not a possibility right now, however, I just got CM7 to boot. And although it seems to have no service (or it could be because airplane mode toggles on and off faster than I can blink) it seems to be at least functional in a baseline way. I'm going to try to use one of the CWM backups I saved on my computer to see if that works... Thanks for your help!
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Good luck to you! Hopefully you read the following:
What does NOT work in CM7 for Epic::
GPS
Camera
Multimedia Messaging
Bluetooth In-Call (Hands-Free Profile)
WiMax 4G (This is absolute LAST priority, DON'T ASK ABOUT IT)
I don't develop personally, but I make it a habit to try and understand what's going on, and as such I rearrange and personalize ROMs to my liking, and subsequently carefully test them to maximize performance and battery. I like to share my understanding and insight to help alleviate the task from developers who already do so much work in an effort to pay them back!
Yes, I am aware of the current limitations of this incarnation of CM7, it seems as though right now, cell coverage radio is going a bit insane (toggle rapidly airplane mode) with my setup. I am currenly looking into how to get CW3 on it.
Hey I managed to gain access to a windows laptop, installed odin on it, and attempted to reflash with what I imagine are the stock files, but it's failed twice...
Which files should I be using? My phone WAS on DK18, but all i'm looking for now is to get it working in a stock way, then I can venture out again....
Any help?
Edit: Odin said it failed, but it seems like some stuff took, it will boot to the samsung screen, do the sprint yellow boxy thing with music, go to the glowing S, it'll pulsate for a while, then it goes to a black screen sat for a good while., Now when I reboot, it hangs at the first samsung screen again..
Does it look like I just used the wrong files, or was it a usb issue?
I'm a bit perplexed...
I'm a noob as well. You need to watch qbking77 on you tube. He goes through the exact steps and exactly what files to use if using odin in one of his videos. The links are all there as well. I have hade my epic a week and have done about everything in his videos to help me understand what I am doing.
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http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?user=qbking77&v=YQ2g6J1JgjU&view=videos
That is a link to the video.
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hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting
While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned
Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
Sent by Supersonic!
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
dmccoy516 said:
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.
Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
Sent by Supersonic!
Man,
For 3 days, i've been reading and getting distracted and confusing mysef with this OG EVO.
Can I backup with nandroid, TB, or mybackup?- which is the most current and reliable?
Can I backup to dropbox, drive, or flash card cos I'm temporarily without my 6ram HP and accessing this info through my phone and a different pc.
Do I back up before visiting HTC DEV for the bootloader?
Where is the folder I'm supposed to put my recovery.img and .zip fies in for s-off functionality?
Which new, updated and most reliable recovery should i flash?
You got the time to tweet tips to me @niteridet?
I have no idea what's going on right now and i need a devoted individual to tutor me please and thank you.
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niteridet said:
Man,
For 3 days, i've been reading and getting distracted and confusing mysef with this OG EVO.
Can I backup with nandroid, TB, or mybackup?- which is the most current and reliable?
Can I backup to dropbox, drive, or flash card cos I'm temporarily without my 6ram HP and accessing this info through my phone and a different pc.
Do I back up before visiting HTC DEV for the bootloader?
Where is the folder I'm supposed to put my recovery.img and .zip fies in for s-off functionality?
Which new, updated and most reliable recovery should i flash?
You got the time to tweet tips to me @niteridet?
I have no idea what's going on right now and i need a devoted individual to tutor me please and thank you.
posted by another annoying noob troll with 2.3.5 android; stock 2.6.35.10 kernal; build 5.07; PRL 60690; hboot 2.18.0001; hardware 0004
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Yes: Nandroid BKUP
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Tell everyone a little bit more of whats going on. I still don't know what your problem is, be specific.
i think i need a book of this stuff.
I just want to be pointed in the right direction..I don't know much about tweaking gadgets, but i'm a fast learner and i'm more hands on then a visual observer.its hard for me to visualize specific steps of something, but i know as i get into a routine doing this, i'll be more comfortable and not so much a loof.
whats the correct order with the root and the best up to date one?
i want to tether internet and have something other then this boring setting customization option HTC gives us, and I want my phone to be smooth....Mybad, earlier I typed out a whole thread like it was a freakin novel and it randomly disappeared. wow.
Is it possible to flash a jb custom rom after first rooting OG? All these guides are in different locations and its constant flipping back and forth between directions and i lose track of what i'm doing because I get distracted easily. I need someone to hold my hand and watch over my shoulder to correct my every kink. is that even possible. I need training! What you got? :silly:
First off, you are thinking way, way to hard. Slow it down a notch and think things through. I would really recommend that you use Youtube. I mean, since you and me both are more of a visual type of person. Try this link first http://youtu.be/zEwEM641gBs
and or/ go to Youtube and type in How to root HTC EVO4G and find the most recent one.
Second choice is to actually find a "How To" on here, but like you said, you are more of a visual person, as am I also.
Rooting is overwhelming, with all the custom Roms, Kernels etc etc. Once you are rooted it basically gives you permission to do anything with your particular phone. With following the "How to root", the recovery is included. Basically, once I was rooted I found a Rom that I wanted that looked cool and looked suitable to my needs, I downloaded it, made a new folder on my SD card called "Rom" and transfered the Rom I downloaded from my PC to my Rom folder on my SD card. I then went into recovery mode, made a backup, wiped all 3 (factory reset-dalvik cache & cache), went to flash zip, went to my Rom folder, found the Rom I put in my folder and flashed it. Re-boot and BOOM you now have a custom Rom! If need be, send me an E-Mail. [email protected] and I can help you some more.
Thanks, I'll do that and let you know Nick.:good: