Mango added bluetooth compatibility - Windows Phone 7 General

In the Mango previews I read that there was to be added bluetooth compatibility to help with the numerous issues that people have had with connecting with hands free devices.
See this thread if you are unaware of the problem.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-problem/b53c64ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132
My question is:
Does anyone know for certain if this beta version includes the updated bluetooth? I have Mango beta on my Focus and so far I still have not been able to completely connect to my vehicles hands free device. I'm hoping that maybe it just has not been implemented yet.

Microsoft has updated the Bluetooth stack in Windows Phone 7.5, with the new stack receiving Bluetooth SIG approval on the 5th June 2011.
New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. Also updated is the AVRCP (Audio Video Remote Control Protocol) from version 1.0 to 1.3, which brings track and other meta-data information transmission and playback status information (paused, stopped, etc).
Unfortunately it still does not bring Sim Access Profile.

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A2DP SP5

Ok so this is not the only phone that I can see that is wireless everything but does not support A2DP so you can listen to the mp3 player wirelessly??? I have seen that some have updated other units (MDAIII) to use a BT stack from broadcom and I was wondering if it is possible to do it on the sp5? I am guessing that using the broadcom stack does not require BT 1.2 but I am not sure what stack the sp5 is using and where I would get the updates. I am also reading that most that have done an update have mention static if they move around?? Why then would you need BT if you cannot move?? Is this then the V1.1 causing the problem and why it should be on 1.2?? :?
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Ok so I have asked the question about the sp5 & sp5m about A2DP so you can use stereo bluetooth headphones that include player controls and I found some answers.
A2DP only fully works on Bluetooth V1.2 and these units only V1.1. I have seen that some people have installed some third party BT stacks on there BT V1.1 units to get high quality stereo profiles but they do not have player control. Also it may not even be A2DP it may just be a facsimile but more interesting it may be A2DP. When looking at the specs of phones it says Bluetooth V1.1 but does not say which silicon (Chip) is in the unit which is very important because the chips are backwards compatible. Meaning it may be V1.1 but the chip maybe able to run V1.2 because the manufacture just put in V1.1 stack and rom. So we should all be not asking about new stacks and upgrades but first ask which chip is in the units and if it is a V1.2 compatible, then we should start demanding rom and stack upgrades now. As for the chips the V1.2 and more chips have been out for at least 2 years so the manufactures cannot say the release of them postdated their own development date unless they have been hand building the units for the last year and that gave them one year to test.
Well can someone please tell me which or who’s BT chip is in the sp5 and sp5m

[Q] WP7 Bluetooth Support

Just wondering what bluetooth services people are seeing on there WP7 phones.
I have a HD7 on T-Mobile USA and it's only advertising the following to my Windows 7 computer:
A2DP
Headset Audio Gateway
Remotely Controllable Device
Thanks
a2dp as a service for the phone? not sure, but my friend bought the hd7 on my recommendation and he can't get audio for video files through a2dp and its killing him
hopefully wp7 has some cool tricks up its sleeve based on what you got there
I'm interested in four bluetooth profiles, if and how they are compatible and work.
- A2DP
- AVRCP
- Handsfree
- Bluetooth HID for Keyboard
any news mostly about the BT HID Keyboard?
I found this on Microsoft Support site:
Windows Phone 7 supports the following Bluetooth user profiles:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP 1.2)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP 1.0)
Hands Free Profile (HFP 1.5)
Headset Profile (HSP 1.1)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP 1.0)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2449475
This is the first device I have seen that supports SMS over bluetooth. If you have a Ford product with SYNC, you can use SMS over bluetooth. It also works with my Kenwood head unit. Basically, you can see incoming messages and, in the case of SYNC, send canned replies from the head unit. On my Kenwood, there is actually an on-screen keyboard to send any message you like. Cool stuff really!
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a2dp as a service for the phone? not sure, but my friend bought the hd7 on my recommendation and he can't get audio for video files through a2dp and its killing him
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same problem with my htc trophy. audio for video files only plays through the loud speaker and not through the bluetooth headset. I tried the blueant q1, jabra stone and jabra extreme with the same results
i have a Samsung Focus and i am having the same issue with no BT audio from videos. i tested the HTC Surround and LG Quantum at the ATT store with the same results. i am using a Jabra BT3030 which worked perfectly on my Microsoft KIN, audio streamed and play controls (Play/Pause/FF/RW) worked.
A2DP
Does anybody know if an A2DP video fix is coming up in the NoDo update? I'd say it's way more important than copy-paste, but regardless of importance, it is an important feature.
Any news?
noone knows outside of MS as far as i'm aware. we only know about copy/paste and app performance improvements because they told us. only time will tell if they actually fixed the issue.
hands free car kit and voice activation
When my LG is linked to the Bluetooth hands free car kit (Landrover) the voice activation doesn't work.
It opens but it doesn't "hear" anything
Since this is about the only time i actually need voice activation it's a bit annoying
Anyone have any ideas?
I totally agree about this bug. Who the F cares about copy and paste? How about turn-by-turn navigation for Bing Maps like was released last year for WM6.5 ?

Bluetooth version & BMW music streaming

I wondered if anyone can help with my query regarding getting music streaming to a BMW 320ED via Bluetooth?
The good news is that I can get my Galaxy Nexus (GSM 4.1.1 stock software) to pair with the car and I can get music playing via Bluetooth, but I can't see the artist information. The car screen informs me that the device doesn't supporting sending track information, or something along those lines.
What frustrates me about this is that my friends iPhone 4S does stream the track information as well as the actual audio. I Googled to see what Bluetooth version both phones use, apparently the iPhone 4S is Bluetooth 4.0 and the Galaxy Nexus has 4.0 capable hardware but only 3.0 features are available due to software limitations.
Is this true? Is once of the differences between Bluetooth 3.0 and 4.0 the ability for track information to also be shared? I was using Google Play Music if that makes any difference.
I've done some more research about this and thought I would update my post, just in case it's of help to anyone facing a similar issue. Turns out the Bluetooth protocol/profile AVRCP is responsible for streaming music tags to the car stereo, but only AVRCP 1.3 and above. Unfortunately the Galaxy Nexus only supports 1.0 by default but CyanogenMod 10 has built in support for 1.3 since roughly the 14th September nightly.
Should be able to test it out next week at some point. Why are Google so bad at supporting the latest Bluetooth features? I've always found this with Google experience devices to lack in this area where other manufacturers support the latest Bluetooth features.

Bluetooth AVRCP 1.5?

I haven't seen many threads on this and I am curious as to why it is not a concern for many Android users. Maybe it is because many Android users did not move from Apple like I did. The fact is, Apple is still superior to Android in terms of vehicle bluetooth connectivity. The more you need to look at and operate your phone while driving, the more dangerous driving becomes.
The difference between AVRCP 1.3 and AVRCP 1.5 primarily is the playlist selections. Since my car supports this, with 1.5 (iPhone 5) I would be able to see the contents of my library and browse/select music. Then I switched to a Nexus 6 and didn't have this feature anymore. Just a couple days ago I got the Nexus 5X and I am surprised they didn't change this with Marshmallow.
Is Apple always going to hover over Android with their updated bluetooth stacks?
Seems ridiculous that this is still a problem. Its as if no one want to shed any light on this. Talking about this and no apps that expose the Bluetooth stack and avrcp versions to the users who don't know any better. I would be nice if this was a separate module that could be upgraded independently so users could get the functionality they needed. Companies like Samsung rolling there own stack and adding feature is not a proper fix. This should be Android standard.
I have always been thinking the same thing, why is the
bluetooth stack from Google missing so many features.. I have tried both Samsung and HTC and their stack is just so much better.. But I always end up with a Nexus phone again and longing for a better BT stack...
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BT overall sucks with the 5X. Hissing, popping, laggy stream kills it for me. It can't keep the connection with my car either while iPhones were trouble free. It's almost 2016. Are we asking for too much?
Thought I would add a way to get some info. This is from android.stackexchange.com/questions/43667/discover-version-of-bluetooth
Turn on bluetooth by going to the home screen, clicking menu->settings bluetooth. Pull that to enabled. Make sure it is on.
On the home screen, click menu -> settings -> applications -> 'running' tab.
An item appears called: "bluetooth share".
A screen pops up with information about the program, but it is sparse.
Also you can go to All tab and "Bluetooth Share" to see its actual version number. Though that might not be very helpful.
Also and old article discussing some of the bluetooth stack changes in Android for what its worth.
lwn.net/Articles/597293/
Sorry for the broken url but I've not posted enough on XDA to be allowed proper urls.
I'm going to try keep posting things I find that might be useful just consolidate more info in one spot. Trying to make this problem clearer for myself.
Is there anything new about AVRCP 1.5 features? May it possible to build and install a custom kernel with bluez support (which afaik has avrcp 1.5 support)?
More info on the bluez stack
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2640723&page=1

Android Pie (and Oreo) Bluetooth Pbap

I have a 2017 Honda Accord Sport SE, with only the single display system that handles bluetooth and streaming etc.
Ever since somewhere around the May or June Oreo update and including the new Pie first production release, the car has been unable to transfer contacts from the Pixel XL to the car system.
I've played around with the AVCP setting, but that does not help. Briefly on the last version of Oreo, I was able to use the app "Bluetooth PhoneBook" to alter the phones PBAP so that my contacts were appearing in the car, but the first Pie version is now incompatible with "Bluetooth PhoneBook", so I cannot get contacts into the car system, and therefore cannot use voice dial with the phone. So I disable the bluetooth in the car and have to use my Plantronics bluetooth earpiece to make calls via bluetooth. The author of the app at http://www.android-rsap.com/bluetooth-phonebook/38-aktuelle-nachrichten/143-phonebook-app-and-android-8-oreo.html, mentions:
Google once again changed the internals of the Android Bluetooth stack, and guess what: it breaks my phonebook app. It is no longer able to properly stop the built-in phonebook service.
Today I found out that the latest Android source contains a change which once again enables my app. I don't have an idea when that change will be published in an official release or if there may be new Android 8 firmwares in the future which don't contain that fix. Simply check if your car connects to my app, if not you'll probably have to wait for the next firmware update.
And these problems all happen only because Google refuses to add a proper Bluetooth SDP API to the Android SDK. So they work their way from hack to hack. Sad...
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Can anyone explain to me how the Bluetooth PBAP works an if this is an issue with the car manufacturer's implementation or Google's fault.
Unfortunately, Honda being a car manufacturer is not very interested in keeping firmware in its cars up to date, at least as far as phone functionality.
The 2018 Honda's allow firmware updates easily, so I imagine this is going to be less of a problem for 2018 and newer models.

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