Confused About Custom Ringtones In Mango - Windows Phone 7 General

I remember reading that they would allow for ringtone creator apps bein made available with the mango update, but just a few days ago there was news about having to use zune on the pc to make the ringtone and categorize the file as a ringtone then sync it over to the fun
which way will it be will we be able to cut our mp3s on our devices and make them into a ringtone or will we have to use the pc to do so?
why is microsoft so strict on downloading mp3 files from the browser and adding them to the zune library that way or even downloading ringtones through the browser and applying them as a ringtone?

deadwrong03 said:
which way will it be will we be able to cut our mp3s on our devices and make them into a ringtone or will we have to use the pc to do so?
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I'm assuming that there will be various options, and since Mango and the Dev Tools only just came out, you probably aren't gonna see any custom ringtone apps yet.
Pretty sure the PC option was for those who already had their own set of ringtones that they've made themselves on the PC (or those that know how). Considering Zune is the only way to transfer media from PC to Phone, makes sense that it'd be the way to get your ringtones to your phone as well.

deadwrong03 said:
I remember reading that they would allow for ringtone creator apps bein made available with the mango update, but just a few days ago there was news about having to use zune on the pc to make the ringtone and categorize the file as a ringtone then sync it over to the fun
which way will it be will we be able to cut our mp3s on our devices and make them into a ringtone or will we have to use the pc to do so?
why is microsoft so strict on downloading mp3 files from the browser and adding them to the zune library that way or even downloading ringtones through the browser and applying them as a ringtone?
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I can tell you what I did. I followed the instructions in the Mango Tips & Tricks thread. First you need to make sure your intended is less than 40 seconds long & less than 1 MB in size. Also, make sure it's a MP3 or WMA. To do this, used a audio editing software. I used AVS Audio Converter6 (Paid for app). Than load it into Zune by putting it in a folder being monitored by Zune for music. You can check in Zune settings which folders are watched & add or remove folders as needed. Now in the Zune software, find the file & right click on it. Click on Edit, than click the Genre field & type in Ringtone. Than just drag it to the WP7 icon at the buttom of Zune. On your WP7 device, go to the ringtones settings & it'll show up at the top of the list under "Custom". It'll be named by filename btw.

I gather this works only for ringtones and not SMS/Email alerts?

Can you remove custom ringtones?

Handala said:
Can you remove custom ringtones?
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I would assume that you just remove them from your Zune media library and resync. I suppose you could also change the Genre from Ringtones to something else as well.

Wait ... you guys can sync your mango device ??? My Zune kind of detect it, but it's not. Then it ask for update but always failed with WMDU error or something like that.

Handala said:
Can you remove custom ringtones?
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Touch and hold, then delete.

minori_aoi said:
Wait ... you guys can sync your mango device ??? My Zune kind of detect it, but it's not. Then it ask for update but always failed with WMDU error or something like that.
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You need to update your Zune software. From the main post detailing how to update, download the version of Zune sw needed for Mango

I am not seeing the custom ringtone. I did exactly as said in the tips and tricks. I used Audacity to cut the mp3 to 39 secs. Its 640 KB in size. Still won't show up in Phone.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I can tell you what I did. I followed the instructions in the Mango Tips & Tricks thread. First you need to make sure your intended is less than 40 seconds long & less than 1 MB in size. Also, make sure it's a MP3 or WMA. To do this, used a audio editing software. I used AVS Audio Converter6 (Paid for app). Than load it into Zune by putting it in a folder being monitored by Zune for music. You can check in Zune settings which folders are watched & add or remove folders as needed. Now in the Zune software, find the file & right click on it. Click on Edit, than click the Genre field & type in Ringtone. Than just drag it to the WP7 icon at the buttom of Zune. On your WP7 device, go to the ringtones settings & it'll show up at the top of the list under "Custom". It'll be named by filename btw.
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thanks for the instructions.
BTW. you can still use RingRing7 to create a ringtone. When you are finished cropping your mp3 you can deploy. The application creates a temp folder in the ringring7 folder with your newly created ringtone. copy or move it to a save place (your ringtone folder). The application will give you an error. you need to copy/move the file before you click OK to the error message (just ignore it).

notebookgrail said:
I am not seeing the custom ringtone. I did exactly as said in the tips and tricks. I used Audacity to cut the mp3 to 39 secs. Its 640 KB in size. Still won't show up in Phone.
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just followed deadwrong03's instructions and it works fine here. try the ringring7 method in my post above.

notebookgrail said:
I am not seeing the custom ringtone. I did exactly as said in the tips and tricks. I used Audacity to cut the mp3 to 39 secs. Its 640 KB in size. Still won't show up in Phone.
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Are you sure the file is a mp3? i know audacity requires the lame_enc.dll for it to create an mp3.

A Dustman said:
Are you sure the file is a mp3? i know audacity requires the lame_enc.dll for it to create an mp3.
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Yes..It is and it's 128kbps. Interestingly, i extracted it as wma with audacity and that works.

minori_aoi said:
Wait ... you guys can sync your mango device ??? My Zune kind of detect it, but it's not. Then it ask for update but always failed with WMDU error or something like that.
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You have to have the pre-release Zune in order to sync. version 4.8.2098.0

Wheezle said:
I gather this works only for ringtones and not SMS/Email alerts?
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Annoyingly, yes, the new "custom ringtone" functionality only applies to actual ringtones, not any other alert tone. One of the formal MS support forums for Mango says that they're still looking into custom alert tones.
Since it's really only just a registry key, I'm not really sure why they made this new functionality so limiting. And, of course, none of the registry editors work anymore. <sigh>
Brad.

yea, i was bummed that it was only for the ringer and not sms/alerts. i hope they add that in a later release...

Mango on my Trophy and Zune 4.8XXXXX. This worked flawlessly, took one of the ringtones from my TP2 (one I used for my wife) and put it on my Trophy, flawless.
It's about time I can do a basic task like this on WP7....

notebookgrail said:
I am not seeing the custom ringtone. I did exactly as said in the tips and tricks. I used Audacity to cut the mp3 to 39 secs. Its 640 KB in size. Still won't show up in Phone.
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It won't show up in Zune on your phone, only under ringtones in settings.

I also could not see MP3 in Zune. When I took the MP3 file and converted it to a WMA and saved it back to the same folder that it came from, I showed up in Zune. I could then drag it down to my WP7 icon and it installed the ringtone and it showed up on the phone in settings / ringtones.
Cant seem to figure out how to find the MP3.
Frank

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[Q]About the manila music

When I use the Dutty's 2.1rom, it is usually stuck (for example, the song stop for a little moment) when i use the manila player to play the music, is there any way can fix that? Thank you.
Hi,
check out all 25 pages of posts - there is no method that totally stops the stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460100
could someone explain why the hell the manila music player cant play my files in the right order? it just plays a few tracks of an album, e.g. 2nd, 5th, 7th, and 12th track.
very crazy!! i tried all possible options but no way to just play in normal order. and it doesnt show any album covers which are in the same directory, jpeg files. is this program just trash?
It seems earlier versions weren't the best but if you flash to one of the more recent roms the problems have mostly been sorted
cb8rwh said:
It seems earlier versions weren't the best but if you flash to one of the more recent roms the problems have mostly been sorted
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Thank you.right,for example,the dutty's 2.3 rom seems fix it, but I don't like the new start menu~and I find is use wmp it will never happen,seems it is someting wrong with manila......
If you use task manager to disable enlarge start menu service, you will see the standard start windows menu instead. This worked on both 2.3 and 2.4 roms.
Regarding the track order, the solution I have is to create playlist and store them under \storage card\playlists. Once playlists are generated, I can pick the album from the playlists and its in the correct order. I have a tool that generates the playlists by scanning \storage card\music folder. I can share if any one needs.
sproxy said:
If you use task manager to disable enlarge start menu service, you will see the standard start windows menu instead. This worked on both 2.3 and 2.4 roms.
Regarding the track order, the solution I have is to create playlist and store them under \storage card\playlists. Once playlists are generated, I can pick the album from the playlists and its in the correct order. I have a tool that generates the playlists by scanning \storage card\music folder. I can share if any one needs.
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Thank you for the advice of new star menu,but if you do this, when you show the program page in manila and tap any icon in the page the old start menu will jump out. Is there any way to fix it?
And could share the software you said for the music scanning?
Hi there,
I am not sure if I understood you correctly. When I disable the service named EnlargeStartMenu(EMX0: ) , the start menu returns to calssic windows one. The size is also reverted back to default start menu. To disable the service, I set it to start manually and restarted. The only side effect I have is that, since programs tab is not available in new manila, I loose the quick launch tab. However, I don't see it as a problem.
Regarding the playlist tool, I have attached the files here. PlayListUtilityApp.zip contans an exe you need to launch in your device. You can copy it to any folder. Then set the location of music files as well as playlist export folder. Then File -> Create Playlists will scan the folders and generate a playlist for each album.
The output folder \Storate Card\playlists seems to be scanned by manilla player, so once you export them, playlists will be visible in manila and track will be correct order.
This may not work for everybody because it requires the following layout in music flibrary:
Artist
-----Album
-----------01. Track
-----------02. another track
or
Artist
-----Album
-----------DISC 1(CD 1 or 1 as folder name is ok as well)
------------------01. Track
------------------02. another track
-----------DISC 2(CD 2 or 2 as folder name is ok as well)
------------------01. another track
------------------02. another track
also
Artist
-----Album
-----------d101. Track
-----------d102. another track
-----------d201. another track
-----------d202. another track
Over the years all my albums are stored like this in my hard drives therefore, a simple copy and paste makes them work for me.
The code for directory browser is from here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa446567.aspx

Had Rhodium for a month, have a handful of questions

Hi, I came from the Wizard and am still learning my Rhodium, I have a few questions that will probably give me a "shoulda had a V8" moment once I hear the answers, but I will ask anyway...
1- how do I set speed dial?
On my wizard I was able to assign a button to a person and just press and hold.
2- is there any way/program to create a zoom function on the camera?
3- how do I make a tab/shortcut to NOTIFICATIONS?
4- I installed a Facebook app, other than putting it in the start menu or in the programs tab, is there a way I can create a dedicated tab (like people, calendar, messages, settings, etc) to go to Facebook?
5- where the heck do I put tunes I want to use as an alarm sound (not to be confused with ringtones)?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's me smacking my forhead...Shoulda had a V8!!
akashastrega said:
5- where the heck do I put tunes I want to use as an alarm sound (not to be confused with ringtones)?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Here's me smacking my forhead...Shoulda had a V8!!
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Put your wma or mp3 files in main windows directory
And dont forget to vote!
orb3000 said:
Put your wma or mp3 files in main windows directory
And dont forget to vote!
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Voted.
I have tried dropping my sounds into the main windows directory, but when I go to set an alarm, it isn't reading my tunes. Perhaps there is a size limit or is it wav specific? I have even tried naming the file alarm-name as I have seen that in windows. I have tried resetting my device...nothing.
Do you have any idea what I may be doing wrong?
Again, thank you.
akashastrega said:
1- how do I set speed dial?
On my wizard I was able to assign a button to a person and just press and hold.
2- is there any way/program to create a zoom function on the camera?
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1. Go to the contact, hit the Menu softkey and "add to speed dial".
2. The zoom bar just below the TP2 screen zooms the camera.
akashastrega said:
Voted.
I have tried dropping my sounds into the main windows directory, but when I go to set an alarm, it isn't reading my tunes. Perhaps there is a size limit or is it wav specific? I have even tried naming the file alarm-name as I have seen that in windows. I have tried resetting my device...nothing.
Do you have any idea what I may be doing wrong?
Again, thank you.
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I believe that alarm sounds must be in WAV format, or they won't be recognized.
sk8mdw said:
2. The zoom bar just below the TP2 screen zooms the camera.
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Thank you, I didnt even know that, I should have RTFM LOL! but thank you!
It took me some time to figure out what the hell the zoom bar was, but now I think I have it.
I will try converting my files to wav format and maybe the alarms will work.
Setting a speed dial contact is next on my list.
Thank you for all the advice so far!!
Now does anyone have any idea if I can make a dedicated tab for Facebook, and also how to make a shortcut or tab for notifications?
Thanks in advance.
I am still trying to make more prominent/easier shortcuts or actual TF3 tabs for Facebook and notifications.
Does anyone know if this is possible?
I do have the Facebook app loaded in the programs tab and in the start menu. What I'd like to do is have an actual TAB...like Home, Weather, Programs...Facebook.
akashastrega said:
I am still trying to make more prominent/easier shortcuts or actual TF3 tabs for Facebook and notifications.
Does anyone know if this is possible?
I do have the Facebook app loaded in the programs tab and in the start menu. What I'd like to do is have an actual TAB...like Home, Weather, Programs...Facebook.
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As far as I know those are preset into the 3d software, so its either going to have to be an update or one of the gurus here will have to hack the system.
For alarms, I like to use spoon alarm, it seems to work much much better at finding songs to use as alarms (and its really easy to use). Only thing thats no good is that you can't set multiple alarms like the windows one. Plus every soft reset you will have to reload spoon alarm for it to go off, but you can play music
akashastrega said:
5- where the heck do I put tunes I want to use as an alarm sound (not to be confused with ringtones)?
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To get them to show up for notifications and events:
- WAV files go in \Windows.
- MP3 & WMA files can work too, but you have to put them into \Application Data\Sounds
This should be the same for the alarm sounds, but I haven't actually used the alarm on mine yet (had it about 2 weeks).

What do you use to Convert mp3, wav etc to WMA?

As the title, what programme do you use to convert mp3, wav etc files to WMA files on the computer?
I can see there's a few programmes about but was after opinions etc.
Thanks!
dbpoweramp
Sorryfor being dumb, but, why do you want to convert them?
gsx600f said:
Sorryfor being dumb, but, why do you want to convert them?
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Have been having issues with *.wav files as alerts and I think they are 'normally' *.wma files so thought I would give it a go.
aZzz.bZzz said:
dbpoweramp
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Thanks, will have a look at that.
I use Format Factory. It's free and good.
jcterry said:
I use Format Factory. It's free and good.
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Tried, converted but then for some reason, w7 wouldn't recognise the file.
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dbpoweramp
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Spot on, thank you!
For those that transfer music to their device using WMP on the PC via ActiveSync, you can set it to convert not only the format, but bitrate when it syncs songs to the device.
I use Tuneraft and I like the results. You can google it.
Or try this ?
Allen Mead said:
Have been having issues with *.wav files as alerts and I think they are 'normally' *.wma files so thought I would give it a go.
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Funnily enough, I was having trouble with wma's
I wanted the quote from the Avatar film, where Jake says 'the sky people have sent us a message', as my new sms alert. I tried several different formats with no success. Then I had a brainstorm. I played the dvd and using 'RiAY recorder' a free program for voice notes etc on my phone, I recorded it and it saves as a wav file. Then I used 'tonality', another free program, to select the file as my new sms message alert.
It works, albeit as a slightly 'low tech' approach
I use zamzar.com to do small file conversions. I use a "junk mail" account to receive the files, though.
Garrickus said:
Funnily enough, I was having trouble with wma's
I wanted the quote from the Avatar film, where Jake says 'the sky people have sent us a message', as my new sms alert. I tried several different formats with no success. Then I had a brainstorm. I played the dvd and using 'RiAY recorder' a free program for voice notes etc on my phone, I recorded it and it saves as a wav file. Then I used 'tonality', another free program, to select the file as my new sms message alert.
It works, albeit as a slightly 'low tech' approach
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It's a Strange one as it never used to have issues, but sod it, *.wma works just fine

Question on custom ringers

Hello,
I'm still new to Android.
1. Can you tell me how to load a custom ringtone on this phone?
2. On my old WM phone I could set it to Vibrate 1st then ring so I could reach for my phone before it made noise (and disturb others) if I felt it vibrate. Is there any way to make this happen?
boe said:
Hello,
I'm still new to Android.
1. Can you tell me how to load a custom ringtone on this phone?
2. On my old WM phone I could set it to Vibrate 1st then ring so I could reach for my phone before it made noise (and disturb others) if I felt it vibrate. Is there any way to make this happen?
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Look for an app called Ringdroid. You can trim and make any music on your phone a ringtone or notification...real easy to do.
alnova1 said:
Look for an app called Ringdroid. You can trim and make any music on your phone a ringtone or notification...real easy to do.
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Thanks - if i already have a ringtone (wav file for WM) I can't just load that to a directory on the phone?
I have a couple cool ringtones I've accumulated over the years that I'd like to get into my phone... They are mp3 format and I'm sorta lost as to how to load them in also.
Dont need any editing etc; just need to know how to make them show up in the ringtone list!
Its easier if you already have a ringtone that doesn't need editing to still use Ringdroid. Just open it up in the app and just save it like it is.
boe said:
Thanks - if i already have a ringtone (wav file for WM) I can't just load that to a directory on the phone?
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If its on your computer load it on your phone through Kies air. If you dont know what Kies is open the app on your phone and it will tell you what to type on your desktop. I think you'll get once you see
On the root of your SD card, create a folder called media, then create a folder inside that called audio. Inside the audio folder, you can create "alarms" "ringtones" and "notifications" folders. Then put whatever audio files you'd like in these respective folders. Reboot and the sounds should show up in the default selection list. Mine are all in mp3 format, I don't know if it would recognize wav files or not.
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MoMatt said:
On the root of your SD card, create a folder called media, then create a folder inside that called audio. Inside the audio folder, you can create "alarms" "ringtones" and "notifications" folders. Then put whatever audio files you'd like in these respective folders. Reboot and the sounds should show up in the default selection list. Mine are all in mp3 format, I don't know if it would recognize wav files or not.
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Thanks. I did as you said - didn't even have to reboot the phone.
Perfect!
Right on! Glad it works.
This is the first question I had when I got my Hero running Android 1.5, glad to hear it has persisted to gingerbread.
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Any way to set it to vibrate first then ring? Basically I'd like the first ring to be a vibrate instead and then go to ring. It was handy on my old Vogue. I could leave it on ring but if I felt the vibration I could use my BT before people were annoyed by my ringer. It made sure I was covered in case I didn't feel the vibrate but it also made it more polite for people around me.
boe said:
Any way to set it to vibrate first then ring? Basically I'd like the first ring to be a vibrate instead and then go to ring. It was handy on my old Vogue. I could leave it on ring but if I felt the vibration I could use my BT before people were annoyed by my ringer. It made sure I was covered in case I didn't feel the vibrate but it also made it more polite for people around me.
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No setting that I'm aware of. To hack it you could create a ringtone that is silence for 5 or 10 or 3 secods at the beginning, then comes in with sound. Kind of a pain and would work only for that specific ringtone, but it would work.

Ringtones/Alarms

So can you not use a MP3 for a ringtone or a wake up alarm on this thing? Or is there an app for it?
Thanks.
BTW, 1st Windows Phone, just came over from Apple/Android, am liking the Nokia quite a bit. Great UI experience.
Thanks
bothfly said:
So can you not use a MP3 for a ringtone or a wake up alarm on this thing? Or is there an app for it?
Thanks.
BTW, 1st Windows Phone, just came over from Apple/Android, am liking the Nokia quite a bit. Great UI experience.
Thanks
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Yes, you can create your own custom MP3 ringtones, but you can't add custom alarms/notification sounds. Do a search for the specifics, but basically the file needs to be less than 1MB and you have to change the Genre to RINGTONE when you edit the fine in Zune.
But a much easier method is to use easyRing&Music (free in Marketplace) to search for and download a ringtone of your choice. I have created some and downloaded a few. Both options are simple.
jimski said:
Yes, you can create your own custom MP3 ringtones, but you can't add custom alarms/notification sounds. Do a search for the specifics, but basically the file needs to be less than 1MB and you have to change the Genre to RINGTONE when you edit the fine in Zune.
But a much easier method is to use easyRing&Music (free in Marketplace) to search for and download a ringtone of your choice. I have created some and downloaded a few. Both options are simple.
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You can indeed use custom alarms, but not notifications.
JMackey said:
You can indeed use custom alarms, but not notifications.
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I stand corrected. Never noticed that on my Surround, but all my custom ringtones do appear in the alarm selection screen. Thanks.
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How do you set up a custom alarm?
bothfly said:
How do you set up a custom alarm?
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If a custom ringtone is already on your phone, simply select it off the list. If not, create one on your desktop (MP3, less than 1MB). Open Zune Desktop, find your ringtone, edit the Genre to RINGTONE (you have to type of in the first time, select off list later), sync with your phone. Ringtone is on your phone.
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jimski said:
If a custom ringtone is already on your phone, simply select it off the list. If not, create one on your desktop (MP3, less than 1MB). Open Zune Desktop, find your ringtone, edit the Genre to RINGTONE (you have to type of in the first time, select off list later), sync with your phone. Ringtone is on your phone.
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Ok, kinda like for the iPhone.
Thanks

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