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[REQUEST] "LG Optimus One, P500, V" forum modification

I have an LG Vortex, and though there is a place for the phone on XDA (technically), its not welcome there.
The Vortex is a variant of the LG Optimus One. While there are dozens of variants, there are only 3 versions "welcome" in the applicable forum, the Optimus One, the Optimus P500, and the Optimus.
HOWEVER! even this is incorrect. P500 is the product number for the "original" optimus one - that means only the Optimus One and the Optimus V are allowed in the forum. When people with other Optimus One variants post topics or ask questions for their devices, they are ignored, turned away, or even occasionally treated with undue anger. If you do not have a P500 or an Optimus V, you are not welcome. However, when people attempt to post elsewhere about these devices, in the general/android forums, they are more often than not ignored, asked to return to their forum, sometimes even a moderator moves the topic there, where it will suffer the above fate. Because of this, there are virtually no user of the many Optimus One variants on XDA anymore, and those who come are quickly turned away. Root has barley been achieved for most of these devices, some people (such as myself) actually had to figure out how to root them ourselves, which luckily was fairly easy. There are no ROMs or ports for these devices anywhere on the internet. Perhaps they are considered not "good enough" for devs to bother with, I don't know. The "main" version of the device have plenty of support, including a functioning ICS port for the original Optiumus One. These variants are cheap, so they are VERY common. The forums I will request further on will not be empty, I can promise that.
All versions of this phone are as follows:
LG Optimus One - P500 (Europe/Asia) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - HSDPA 900 / 2100)
LG Optimus One - P503 (Turkey) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100)
LG Optimus One - P504 (Walmart Family Mobile) (unknown radio, help out?)
LG Optimus C - LW690 (Cricket) (unknown radio, help out?)
LG Optimus M - MS690 (MetroPCS) (CDMA 800 / 1900, UMTS 1700 / 2100 - CDMA 2000 1xRTT, CDMA 2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0)
LG Optimus T - P509 (T-Mobile) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, UMTS 1700 / 2100 - CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA)
LG Phoenix - P505 (AT&T, Rogers Wireless) (GSM 850 / 900 /1800 / 1900 - UMTS 850/ 1900/ 2100)
LG Thrive - P506 (GoPhone) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz Quad-Band/Dual-Mode - GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA)
LG Optimus U - US670 (US Cellular) (CDMA 800 / 1900 - cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A)
LG Vortex - VS660 (Verizon) (identical radios/bands to US670, different chassis)
LG Optimus S - LS670 (Sprint) (CDMA 800 /1900 - cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A)
LG Optimus V - VM670 (Virgin Mobile) (completely identical to LS670)
So as you can see, all these phones are similar. VERY similar. Things like ROMs require only some modification to go from one version to another. In fact, other than minor chassis differences, and the radios included (and this is only an issue most of the time), and some versions including an FM radio, those phones are identical. However, there is very little development for these devices at all, except the ones featured in the sub-forum, which i was very disappointed to see. Making my Vortex work better was one of the primary reasons I came to XDA to begin with. As i have found out, these devices are very close to stock android. As far as i can tell, the bootloaders are all unlocked. Development should be a breeze, but it is actively (though accidentally) being prevented. Here is how I believe that the forum for the Optimus One should be reconstructed
PROPOSED FORUM REORGANIZATION:
Forum title:
LG Optimus One
subforums:
-LG Optimus One General
-LG Optimus One Accessories
-LG Optimus One (P500) Android Development
-LG Optimus One (P503) Android Development
-LG Optimus One (P504) Android Development
-LG Optimus C Android Development
-LG Optimus M Android Development
-LG Optimus T Android Development
-LG Phoenix Android Development
-LG Thrive Android Development
-LG Optimus U/LG Vortex Android Development
-LG Optimus S/LG Optimus V Android Development
-LG Optimus One Themes and Apps
note: Optimus One, being the original, is the generally accepted base name for this family of devices. they are similar enough to share a general, accessories, and themes and apps section, but the devices are just different enough that ROMs and hardware specific software is not compatible without major modification. There will also be a republic Wireless variant released in the near future, which should require its own forum. If some models are more compatible than I think they are, those models can be combined into the same forum, eg Optimus S & V
This would NOT be very much work or stress on the mods or the server. I am simply asking for corrections of a product name on the subforum, and addition of a few new sub-subforums, so that everything has a place. This would enable the limited to nonexistent development for these devices to grow into something useful and meaningful for these devices, which is, after all, what everybody here wants from XDA, isn't it?

+1
and also i really think the forum should just be called lg optimus family/line/etc because the title is kind of misleading. grouping the optimus one and v makes some people think that stuff on the o1 works on the ov and vice versa
afaik the only things compatible with each other are the p500, p503, and p509
my thought in general:
different title for the forum "lg optimus one, p500, v"
different subforums of each of the said devices grouped by compatibility (i.e. one subforum should be p500, p503, p509)
the usual subforums under those subforums (general, accessories, development, themes and apps)

while they are similar remember the Sprint runs CDMA

Contra1971 said:
while they are similar remember the Sprint runs CDMA
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exactly. (so does the votex btw) They're all slightly different, but honestly most of them are closer than the moto droid and the milestone.

I agree. I own a P505 and was baffled by the lack of at least a sub-forum for the other optimus variants.

Here's hoping for expanded Optimus forums. My brother just got a T and I'd love to get my hooks into that. I do understand Z4root works for the T, though i have no experience with it. I've recentloy learned all about Odin for my Charge in the past month or so and need better advice on getting his phone up and running as well as possible.

tdenton1138 said:
Here's hoping for expanded Optimus forums. My brother just got a T and I'd love to get my hooks into that. I do understand Z4root works for the T, though i have no experience with it. I've recentloy learned all about Odin for my Charge in the past month or so and need better advice on getting his phone up and running as well as possible.
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theres technically a forum for the optimus t. the optimus t and the optimus one use the same hardware, so anything meant for the optimus one is also meant for the optimus t. this means that you can refer to the optimus one forum for your brothers optimus t
Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Premium App

mtmerrick said:
However, there is very little development for these devices at all, at least of the ones even featured in the sub-forum, which i was very disappointed to see. Making my Vortex work better was one of the primary reasons I came to XDA to begin with.
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Might be because for some of those, LG has not even bothered with releasing even the kernel source code, which is a clear GPL violation. You cannot expect much development for such stuff. For these cases, the best development would be done by contacting [email protected] first

dr.notor said:
Might be because for some of those, LG has not even bothered with releasing even the kernel source code, which is a clear GPL violation. You cannot expect much development for such stuff. For these cases, the best development would be done by contacting [email protected] first
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Which ones? The kernel source is available for all of the CDMA phones at least.
In any case the hardware is not all identical, nor is the software. Even within the same model there are some different revisions here and there. That said, I think the P500/One name works well enough as the GSM phones all carry a P50x designation, no? Perhaps the V subforum could be renamed to something along the lines of 660/670/690.
All told tho, the kernel source enables some niceties but it's not essential for a custom ROM (look at the Moto Triumph for instance), and I hardly doubt that asking questions about the other CDMA phones in the V subforums would raise many eyebrows.

The LG Optimus T can use P500 ROMs except they don't get the WIFI calling stuff.

Was looking around for news on this. Sprint has upgraded the ROM for the S version, but mine has not downloaded yet.
There is a forum over here, with some development work... but did not want to be first or second to root my phone.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus-s/

Just a point of note.
turdferguson92 said:
I agree. I own a P505 and was baffled by the lack of at least a sub-forum for the other optimus variants.
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Team M.A.C have a variety of cm9 mod roms for both the p500 and p505 however I am not being allowed to post the link due to XDA's filtering system so if you are interested please pm me and then post the link somewhere this or a related thread.

how bout a thrive rom. everyone has forgotten it.
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda app-developers app

[Q] LG P930 vs P935?

AT&T's LG Nitro HD and Bell's LG Optimus LTE are both P930. Anything different on LG P935? Just saw this video: LG P935

The only difference is it has a multi-volt flux capacitor

That's it? I thought there ought to be more. Better battery perhaps.

@Sharpshooterrr,
I think he's yanking your chain (flux capacitor--Back to the Future). At this point it looks like the exact same device as our Nitro HD and the Optimus 4G LTE released for Bell, but maybe is just Telus' version. I'm intrigued to know if there are legitimate hardware differences that make it superior, but I'm kind of doubting there are.

Sharpshooterrr said:
AT&T's LG Nitro HD and Bell's LG Optimus LTE are both P930. Anything different on LG P935? Just saw this video: LG P935
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3202&c=lg_p935_optimus_4g_lte It's just another operator-locked model, for some canadian 'Telus'
seems no other differences from Bell's P930. Seems like this list http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419940 is to be appended
a multi-volt flux capacitor
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what's that? a charger? canadian p930 has 110-240V charger

@Billy Madison,
It's a joke lol. The flux capacitor was the part in the DeLorean in the Back to the Future films that was responsible for time travel. That's what I was trying to tell Sharpshooterrr in my post above ^

Malnilion said:
@Sharpshooterrr,
I think he's yanking your chain (flux capacitor--Back to the Future). At this point it looks like the exact same device as our Nitro HD and the Optimus 4G LTE released for Bell, but maybe is just Telus' version. I'm intrigued to know if there are legitimate hardware differences that make it superior, but I'm kind of doubting there are.
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Lol, and I thought it was something far too technical for me to understand.

Sorry folks...just a little attempt at sense of humor...sometimes the forums get a little serious so just poking fun

I thought everyone knew about the flux-capacitor. LOL

If they don't they need to!

urgent warning to Nitro HD P930 and Optimus LTE users

folks this is important and could save you your phone
there is a visual similarity between the Nitro HD P930 and a very similar looking phone, the Optimus LTE LU-6200.
there have been some questions in the forum over cross compatibility on the software. currently it isn't.
if you flash the wrong software to the wrong phone this could result in a brick.
please be aware and pick the right software?
regards
Chris

Thanks for your warning.
But i guess the P930 is the canadian Bell version, i have this ROM version from day one on my korean LU6200 device and it works.
I dont flash a Nitro HD ROM to my phone, because it could be a big problem (brick).
LU6200
SU640
Nitro HD (AT&T)
P930 (Bell)
Thats the devices i know at this time.

Someone figured out how to 'hack' the SU-640 GB ROM and port it to the LU-6200. Guess what, they are both Asian SKU's. We are referring to the ICS development ROM that was leaked in Asia a week or so ago. As of right now, no one has figured out a way to get it onto a North American P930. Until that time comes, don't assume that it will work.

chrisd1a1 said:
folks this is important and could save you your phone
there is a visual similarity between the Nitro HD P930 and a very similar looking phone, the Optimus LTE LU-6200.
there have been some questions in the forum over cross compatibility on the software. currently it isn't.
if you flash the wrong software to the wrong phone this could result in a brick.
please be aware and pick the right software?
regards
Chris
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Hi Chris, thank you for the warning to all the users, but if I may suggest, can you also sticky this warning in the General area, since most of the discussions seems to take place there.

chrisd1a1 said:
folks this is important and could save you your phone
there is a visual similarity between the Nitro HD P930 and a very similar looking phone, the Optimus LTE LU-6200.
there have been some questions in the forum over cross compatibility on the software. currently it isn't.
if you flash the wrong software to the wrong phone this could result in a brick.
please be aware and pick the right software?
regards
Chris
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Canadian Optimus LTE (BELL P930) has the same name as Optimus LTE (korean version) and yet hardware is the same as NitroHD

It is similar to the SU-640, not the LU-6200.

In canada its a P935
sent from LG OPTIMUS LTE using Tapatalk

ummmm actually in Canada its a " Bell Optimus LTE P930 " to be exact..
i would know as im holding mine in my hand to confirm this

From what I am hearing there are two versions of the same phone in canada depending on the carrier...I think bell is the p930 similar to the nitro hd and the su640
I think that another carrier came out with the p935 which is the same phone essentially...but stuff enough might be different to make it not compatible with what those of us with p930's have.

interesting cuz i thought this was the only one of its kind
but hey... all i know is LG has some nice hardware in this lil package, and id love to see some CM lovin for us.. otherwise, my plans to swap over to a galaxy nexus will still take place, that is once i can afford it... this damn LG sucked out $630 before tax's as i bought it outright then another $30 for unlocking

TELUS has the P935, while Bell has the P930. They are both related to the AT&T Nitro HD but with a slightly different baseband. The LU-6200 is a different animal all together. Different bootloader, different ROM, different baseband.

Does the AT&T version have any model number to go along with it or is it just known as Nitro HD? all the other ones have some tag along

Snake42490 said:
Does the AT&T version have any model number to go along with it or is it just known as Nitro HD? all the other ones have some tag along
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The AT&T LG Nitro HD has the model number P930

the vs920.... verizon lg spectrum.. has different partitions.. and it can be bricked by flashing any other rom.. from what ive read on other forums..

And to top that off, the VS930 is coming to verizon soon.

how about the Japanese version LG Optimus LTE l01d is this model compatible with Nitro HD roms?

LiViD said:
It is similar to the SU-640, not the LU-6200.
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That means we can install p930 rom on su 640.......??
Sent from my LG-SU640 using xda app-developers app

latif sachal said:
That means we can install p930 rom on su 640.......??
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No.

Are the Nitro HD P936 roms/kernels/recoveries compatible with the Optimus True HD P936?

Um...
I'm confused out the ying yang. I have the Bell LG Optimus 4G LTE, and under my battery it says P930.
Do I flash Nitro HD P930 ROMs, or LG SU640 ROMs?
Thanks.

[Q] LG Optimus G E970: Would you buy one today?

I want to upgrade from my S2 to a new phone. I love the Nexus4, BUT, has no SD slot, and you can not even order one.
So, I was thinking on the Optimus G. Now, my question for all of you with the handset is, would you still buy it today?
One important thing for me is "hackability", meaning, I want to run clear/custom roms on it, as I do not like bloatware.
In that regard, the S2 is wonderful, and we already have JB 4.2.1 running very smoothly.
Why I'm interested on the Optimus G? As far as I understand is VERY similar to the Nexus 4, and so I assume it would be easy to have roms ported from it.
So, what are your thoughts?

As for today, thats the best phone on market, but its mid of January already, so a new/better models will come out really soon.

Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?

Tough to say as there is currently development towards more solid bootloader and rooting options but who knows how it will all pan out. Same goes with roms, there is not a lot yet so who knows.
I am rooted and have frozen/uninstalled the apps that I don't want on the device so for me this is good enough. The phone itself is fantastic and I'm very pleased with it, even without JB. But yes, news phones like s4 and xperia z will give the g a run for it if not beat it outright, but regardless of that this phone is a beast.
Sent from my LG-E973 using xda app-developers app

Well, to put you in context, I went and bought a Razr MAXX. In brief, very poor roms support, so I sold it after 2 days.

There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
sent from my Optimus G E971

bryanlimy said:
There are too many versions for Optimus G, US has E970, Canadian has 971,973, Korean has their version, also the international version E975 might gonna come out soon. ROM development might takes longer I think. At least we gotta wait until LG release the 4.1.2 JB in order to have more JB ROMs
About the phone. I had the S II too, I loved it. I think Optimus G has even better design, and of course more powerful.
Running great on CM10.1, I believe it will be even better when LG comes out the JB source.
So, if you likes the phone, how it looks, then go for it.
sent from my Optimus G E971
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Thanks for your reply.
I want the AT&T version E970, cause it is compatible with my country 3G bands, unless all have the same bands, or are quad band or something, or unless there is a problem with the E970 one.
You coming from the S2, do you think his battery last longer? How much longer? I'm asking cause I realized that the battery is non removable, and I'm always about 2 to 4 hours short on the S2.
Thanks!

The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
Sent from my Optimus G using xda app-developers app

Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery.
I would say around 30-40% more.
On both stock and CM10.1
sent from my Optimus G E971

Thanks Tim4, for your response.
Lets forget that a new one would probably come out soon, would you still buy it considering all the I said, specially the hackability request?
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Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in.
Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1

vpetkar said:
The E973 already has a near perfect CyanogenMod 10.1 port, AOKP 4.2.1 build and of course an unlocked boot loader and can be rooted. So I'm pretty happy with this, especially since the big two are already on board. Team Nocturnal is also working on this phone.
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Well, I'm mostly interested on the E970 or E971 versions, as the 3G is compatible with my country, the E973 is not. How is the root/roms/etc on those?
By the way, this table is correct?
LG Optimus G E970
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100
LG Optimus G E971 (Rogers)
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 2600
LG Optimus G E973 / LG F180
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
4G Network LTE ???
bryanlimy said:
Compare to S II, the battery on Optimus G (E971) is a lot longer. For S II, I used to bring 2 extra batteries with me just in case, but now with OG I don't need to bring my extreme battery. I would say around 30-40% more.On both stock and CM10.1
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That is VERY GOOD NEWS!
Tim4 said:
Yeah, i would.
The international version of optimus g still didnt appear on market, i believe that the main reason of slow developing.
USA/Korea/Canada/Japan and may be AUS the only countries optimus g available in. Btw some guy asked LG about the international version, and he was told it definitely will out in Q1
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What would be the advantage of the international version?

The advantage is more users will use optimus g = more developers will appear here = more custom roms will be available

Make the move bro! I went from the S2 to the AT&T Optimus G, originally i was going to upgrade to the overrated S3 or wait on the S4(but found out rumors saying screen size is 4.99inch which is too big and rocking Exynos Octa Core which i doubt we'd need and delay of how long USA would get a version) But a nice rep from AT&T store recommended the OG, and i have to say is i am blown away with the looks and performance of the device. The only deal breaker is the lack of accessories like an OEM car dock and non-removable but sooner or later everyone will transistion to non removable battery. Yes the LGOG is lacking ROM Dev, but i know that this is a fairly new device, give it a couple weeks to a few months and development will go crazy!
I never looked back, yes the S2 was a slamming device even up to now, but i needed to update and the OG is good enough rocking the first Quad Core CPU with LTE bands

This phone is simply amazing. Screen is beautiful, absolutely no lags on heavy multitasking, good battery, lte.. Even on mostly stock rom, simply the best phone to get into my hands. The screen, man.. The screen And the fluidity.. - - It is a joy to use, still looks like a (sexy, classy, sleek) phone compared to the galaxy note 2's size, exemple.
Did I mention the amazing screen, and the fluidity of animations + browsing?
Sent from Optimus G using my Dog

I like the phone very much, but the lack of root/roms makes me very nervous

I just bought 2 today. They are buy one get one free at sprint.
I'm guessing the pro is coming very soon.

LG G PRO Vesrion

Hello!
First of all, sorry for new topic, but I didn't want to BUMP all topics.
I need your help
I will order LG Optimus G PRO online.
They are offering F240 for 40$ lower than E980
As I was reading few posts on XDA i found out that F240(Korean version) will work fine in Europe after some modification to build.prop. (By work fine i mean 3G, LTE, and GSM(telephone)signal.)
Can you confirm this for me please.
Thanks!

Yeah you should be fine, my G Pro is originally an E986 (French Europe) and I'm running datphu's G3 Rom that turned it into an E988 (HK) lol
I get 4G and good signal as if I was on the stock rom. So yeah, I think you should try to install a custom rom, you're lucky, there are plenty of good ones that mimick LG G3
But keep in mind that the F models from Korea do have some problems with custom roms and carriers from other countries so be careful when you are getting these kind of offers.