I just got my Note 10.1 as a surprise gift . Great day .
I am not sure whether I will need a keyboard because I have a small notebook for heavy typing but still...
I just checked ebay and chinese/hk sellers have some interesting stuff like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/x/390562886255
Did you try something like this? Or do you have some other recommendations?
cer67 said:
I just got my Note 10.1 as a surprise gift . Great day .
I am not sure whether I will need a keyboard because I have a small notebook for heavy typing but still...
I just checked ebay and chinese/hk sellers have some interesting stuff like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/x/390562886255
Did you try something like this? Or do you have some other recommendations?
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I tried a similar one purchased from Amazon and it was awful.
There seem to be two types of keyboards available for this device: The fully integrated keyboard/case/stand like this one, which has a keyboard with AWFUL keys. It also would frequently disconnect from the device.
The second appear to be the "clip on" style with "chiclet" keys on the keyboard. I haven't purchased one of these since it isn't a full blown case.
The fully integrated keyboard/case/stand
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you say that this keyboard is somehow "glued" to the case? or it just looks like that.
thanks for the other information. I am not even sure whether I really need it because I use notebook for typing.
I had one of these cases for my tab 8.9 and although I never had any problems with it disconnecting, the keys do feel awful. I couldn't type very fast with it so never really used it that much. I prefered to use the onscreen keyboard with swype.
i purchased this 20 dollar one from amazon
tuktukscotty said:
I had one of these cases for my tab 8.9 and although I never had any problems with it disconnecting, the keys do feel awful. I couldn't type very fast with it so never really used it that much. I prefered to use the onscreen keyboard with swype.
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i purchased this one from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Blueto...0733&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+bluetooth+keyboard
i like it. works well.
connects easily
I was able to score a Microsoft wedge keyboard from ebay for $32. Its a great little keyboard, excellent feel, and it has a heavy rubber cover that makes me feel a little better about putting it in my bag with everything else.
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I bought one of the clip-on keyboards. Using use it very often but it works fibre. I have small hands so it works for me. I also have a usb folio case for another tab. It was cheap and freshly like it would fall apart, but it keeps on touching and it even works with the galaxy.
Both work well enough for my purposes.
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Yet another bluetooth keyboard thread:
Anyone try this keyboard from ebay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...es_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item4ac99b21f8
Seems similar to the plethora of keyboard on amazon, internet, but wanted to know if anyone tried the actual ebay one and how it worked. Are there any other similar keyboards that are maybe higher quality? Some things I am potentially looking for:
Aluminum (or other kind of "classy" back)
illuminated keyboard
maybe some way of adding a skin on it to match the dbrand wood grain skin I have on it
Any better keyboard for around the same price range? Or anything else that is better, even if a bit more expensive? The main thing I'm looking for is something that doesn't add that much extra bulk (as the leather keyboard cases do).
Thanks
waflsk8s said:
Yet another bluetooth keyboard thread:
Anyone try this keyboard from ebay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-thin-...es_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item4ac99b21f8
Seems similar to the plethora of keyboard on amazon, internet, but wanted to know if anyone tried the actual ebay one and how it worked. Are there any other similar keyboards that are maybe higher quality? Some things I am potentially looking for:
Aluminum (or other kind of "classy" back)
illuminated keyboard
maybe some way of adding a skin on it to match the dbrand wood grain skin I have on it
Any better keyboard for around the same price range? Or anything else that is better, even if a bit more expensive? The main thing I'm looking for is something that doesn't add that much extra bulk (as the leather keyboard cases do).
Thanks
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Wouldn't this be EXTREMELY cramped?
I wish someone would make a portrait slider keyboard/case. That would be pretty cool.
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Wouldn't this be EXTREMELY cramped?
I wish someone would make a portrait slider keyboard/case. That would be pretty cool.
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Yeah it would be cramped but my plan is to use this with the nexus in my white coat pocket and keep either a foldable or backlit fullsized keyboard in my bag or something. I mainly need something that is as small as possible but still protects the front of the screen (which even with a protector is still vulnerable). I need a keyboard that's good enough to where it won't obstruct half the screen when I need to type something (as the on screen keyboard does).
How would the slider keyboard be less cramped?
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How would the slider keyboard be less cramped?
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Portrait slider. You would hold the device in your hands and use your thumbs to type.
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Portrait slider. You would hold the device in your hands and use your thumbs to type.
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Hmm I think then you'd run into the opposite problem. Keys would be too small to touch type and too big to effectively thumb type. Plus, at least for me, touch typing is faster than thumb typing even on a cramped keyboard (especially if you have to use numerical keys or symbols or something). But I guess to each his own.
I tried one of these (there are several "branded" versions, all the same physical features).
My biggest complaint was not the keyboard size, but the "clip" that is right in the middle of the space-bar. It seemed that no matter what I tried it was in the way. Also the "smart case" magnet was too strong, it would turn off the tablet when it was set up with the switches on top.
Had to return it.
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I tried one of these (there are several "branded" versions, all the same physical features).
My biggest complaint was not the keyboard size, but the "clip" that is right in the middle of the space-bar. It seemed that no matter what I tried it was in the way. Also the "smart case" magnet was too strong, it would turn off the tablet when it was set up with the switches on top.
Had to return it.
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Hmm just saw that the clip does stick out quite a bit. Hmm... Also didn't know that these things came with a smart magnet (why would it need one if you have to remove the tablet from the case to use it?).
Hello Everyone,
I am going to be getting a Nexus 7 for Christmas this year with plans to use it at the office, particularly to take to meetings for note-taking and sharing PDF's of plans and reports (I'm a civil engineer). I've been doing some research on gear and believe I'm going to want an external keyboard, but don't know exactly which way to go. I've read lots of mixed reviews on the keyboard cases such as this one. Some say they're great, others say they're too small to be useful (and I have pretty big hands).
I've read awesome reviews on this keyboard as well as this one. But I'm not sure how I would easily transport the tablet and keyboard.
In addition, I'll need some sort of case I would imagine. I've got all these thoughts going through my head and would like some advice from you guys on things that have worked for you
Don't buy the keyboard cases if I were you. It's pretty hard to type on I have big hands and was just not comfortable at all to type on it. Ended up returning two keyboards very similar to those. I guess they can't really make a very comfortable keyboard in a7 inch form factor so can't really blame them. I'm in the same boat as you I would like to get some sort of case what the keyboard so that I can carry my tablet with me all together. I'm still on the quest to looking for a nice keyboard case. But if you really want to be comfortable and typing something thats really usable then get just a normal Bluetooth keyboard full-size.
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you Might be best to go for a case like this http://www.xtremecables.net/7inchneoprenecase.aspx so you can carrry KB too if it fits or even a larger 10" neoprene case. I really like the neoprenecases myself. Man purse
I've been looking at the Stealth Pro case by M-Edge, but only because I have a ridiculous discount; the cost would be prohibitive otherwise.
Trouble is, no one seems to have reviewed it. The feel of a keyboard is personal but crucial, so I hesitate to experiment (even at $40) when I'm fairly sure I'd like the Logitech 760.
Pity the Microsoft Wedge Mobile is said to have connection issues. It seems like the best ergonomic compromise (the slant of the raised keyboard looks perfect for typing) and comes with a useful case that "powers down the device when attached," doubles as a tablet stand and adds a lovely silver border around the relatively large keys.
I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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I like the look of the stealth pro, but same issue comes up in my mind....is the keyboard too small to really be usable. Plus it's too expensive. I'd really like to find a slimmer case that has a pocket or sleeve I could slide that Anker keyboard into.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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As I say, the Stealth Pro would be $40 for me, but M-Edge doesn't have a history of making any keyboard before this one, let alone great ones.
Are you talking about the Anker Ultra-Slim 4mm? It does seem to get stellar reviews, and I like how easily it can be switched from Android to Windows if key combinations become problematic.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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I have the N7 and the Anker Slim keyboard. I have this case for the keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Cosmos-Neoprene-Carrying-Protection-Wireless/dp/B00BUYIHN2/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
The N7 in a thin case like the Poetic Slimline:
http://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Slimli...386992704&sr=1-2&keywords=poetic+slim+nexus+7
fits in the Cosmos outer mesh pocket.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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Yep, that's the Anker I'm talking about. I just need a good carrying method.
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Nice. How's the typing on it?
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
So here's another question. Has anyone used a stylus to write notes on their Nexus "by hand"?
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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Personally, I like it and it has a lot of positive reviews on Amazon. It is incredibly light. I also have the Logitech keyboard:
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-920-...5&sr=1-7&keywords=logitech+bluetooth+keyboard
It weighs a ton compared to the Anker.
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I own devices which run on four platforms at the moment: Windows, OX X, Linux and Android (though you could argue I've only listed three platforms, since Android = Linux).
Since Logitech is the only option with a lit keyboard, I might get one for home use at some point.
Logically, the Anker is the one to get for the road and for everything but Windows 8.
That said, I was able to use a discount code on the Mobile Wedge (W8) from Office Depot and thought I'd try it, since the price has only climbed everywhere else. Some people have complained about connection issues; I'll let you know how it fares.
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IMHO, using Swiftkey Flow is much faster than any 7" keyboard or stylus option.
If you want a bluetooth keyboard, you'll be better off to spring for a full sized. I had an HP Touchpad keyboard that worked very well. When I bought a 7" keyboard case, I found that the keys are WAY too cramped to type on any faster than hunt-peck.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I can agree with you this one.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
I also think that users' idiosyncrasies and abuse-case scenarios are too disparate for keyboard generalizations to ever prove universal. Sparksd makes a fair point, but it isn't always applicable (though it might be to the OP's concerns).
In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
I'm sure I'll find the Wedge Mobile and the Anker infinitely more intuitive than SwiftKey (which I also own). The only thing I'm unsure of is whether the Wedge will disappoint in terms of holding its bluetooth connection.
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I really can't agree. I find SwiftKey's substitutions maddening -- particularly when I'm writing fiction or an essay that uses neologisms, and especially when punctuating more elaborately than might be appropriate while texting, tweeting or twatting (insert pelvis-clutching emoticon). The whole point of being a writer is not to use predictable, repetitive language, which is what SwiftKey is constantly trying to force the user to do.
Besides which, full-sized keyboards aren't always an option.
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In my case, the relative size of the keyboards doesn't matter. I'm a classically trained studio keyboardist and writer; I grew up playing full-sized weighted keys, but part of the craft involves being able to play accurately on keyboards of every size and touch. That's why I have various controllers for different tasks -- from a hoary KX88 for its heavy action to a lowly Keystation 32 for the lightest possible size and weight.
I find that being able to scale my technique to the size and touch of an instrument is also useful on QWERTY keyboards.
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Quite the contrarian!
I learned initially on a mechanical typewriter that weighed more than I did (or so it seemed). I type over 100wpm when I'm copying text or writing something I've pre-composed in my head, and 80+wpm if I'm composing while I write.
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard. Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions. Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Quite the contrarian!
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If I'm the contrarian, then why are you the one who posted on a thread asking for the best scaled-down keyboard just to say they're all useless?
Doesn't matter how well you're trained - unless you have tiny hands and fingers, a tiny keyboard is never going to be as fast as a full sized keyboard, unless you're slow on the full sized keyboard.
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You're presupposing that every user expects the same experience from a smaller keyboard as a larger one -- as opposed to an improved experience for an individual with specific preferences.
Sure, you may be faster on the tiny keyboard than others, but you won't be as fast as you would be on a larger keyboard. 7" is just the wrong size for a QWERTY. Smaller and you could thumb it like a blackberry. Bigger and you could touch type properly. It is in that nebulous void between those two areas. Sure, you could have one that is SLIGHTLY more precise than using the touchscreen, but the only gain is going to be tactile feedback. And what you lose is flow/swype ability that exists in most top-tier software keyboards now. If you haven't adopted a flow/swype style yet, maybe that's not important. But it's much faster than hunt-pecking, and approaches touch typing speed if you're accustomed to it.
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Your extended use of the second person implies you feel that your optimal experience is normative. And while I appreciate the specificity of your preferences, and don't doubt that many people would agree with them, I have to point out that your preferences aren't mine, which is an indication that you don't speak for everyone.
What I'm after is stochastic precision of thought as opposed to pure speed. I revise heavily, so there are times when haste is actually a deterrent. When I write, I feel most alive not when thought is quickest but when word alchemy is purest.
As far as SwiftKey "forcing" you to do anything, nobody says you have to use the predictions.
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The entire experience of SwiftKey is predicated on the ease of use afforded by predictive text. The idea is that it learns what the user does repeatedly, which is fine if one's intention is to repeat oneself and if one's style is not felicitously idiosyncratic.
Mostly I use them just for when it guesses the word wrong on Flow, or when I typo the word and get something else. The correct word is usually in the predictions, which is faster than backspacing and trying again.
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Whereas my experience is that SwiftKey's substitutions are almost never correct. Google's were actually more accurate, but neither VK is satisfactory when I'm writing fiction.
I don't mind lingering over text while I'm writing. The speed afforded by the keyboard needn't be Andretti-fast. What must never happen is for the AI to insert banal words and syntax continuously while I'm confecting sentences deliberately.
Everyone has their own preferences when seeking tools for specific work. I picked up my Mobile Wedge two nights ago and, so far, it's been aces. No bluetooth dropouts, perfect form factor, extremely useful keyboard cover / tablet stand and very reasonable output. The Anker has more versatile keyboard mapping (separate maps for android, windows and mac; the home button really takes you to the home page, unlike the Wedge's), but I bought a keyboard for writing, not navigating the desktop.
Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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Alright, after much thought and research. I've decided to go with either the Anker Ultra Slim (4mm) keyboard, or the Lumsing Ultra Thin Keyboard.
The Anker has awesome reviews, but I'm concerned with the placement and size of the right shift key. I do like that it's incredibly small and thin.
The Lumsing is slightly larger, but has a better shift key. It also has an awesome built in stand feature. However, it's only got 7 reviews.
Thoughts?
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I could probably get used to Anker's right shift key, eventually, but not comfortably. The Lumsing looks so nice that I'm tempted to get one. Overall I think the relatively few reviews are still pretty good.
Not related to office but I find at home, I use a case to stand it up then fire up my PS3 controller and rock on emulators and play the classic games, plenty of games on the Market but there's something special about playing nostalgia games. Just another use for the tab if your into gaming.
Is anyone aware of a stylus pen that has a thin tip to be used with the G3. I'm going back to the G3 from a Note4 and really like the ability to make grocery lists etc with the s-pen. Obviously I don't expect the same precision, but just looking for something that has a thinner tip than your typical stylus that's pretty thick. Thanks!
You could probably buy an s pen. Of course the button won't work but it feel the same.
http://www.amazon.com/iClooly-Dual-...d=1418765423&sr=1-17&keywords=fine+tip+stylus
http://www.amazon.com/Musemee-Notie...id=1418765423&sr=1-1&keywords=fine+tip+stylus
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You could probably buy an s pen. Of course the button won't work but it feel the same.
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Yes he could buy one, but no it wouldn't work, seeing as the G3 doesn't have the Wacom internals of the note devices.
http://hex3.co/products/nota
http://www.amazon.com/Adonit-Point-Stylus-iPhone-Kindle/dp/B00931KY8U
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Yes he could buy one, but no it wouldn't work, seeing as the G3 doesn't have the Wacom internals of the note devices.
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Well duh doesn't mean it can't touch the screen and be used as a stylus lol
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Well duh doesn't mean it can't touch the screen and be used as a stylus lol
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Uh yes, yes it means exactly that.
Stylus Tip Size Minimum,,,,,,
_-..zKiLLA..-_ said:
Well duh doesn't mean it can't touch the screen and be used as a stylus lol
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PeatCoal said:
Yes he could buy one, but no it wouldn't work, seeing as the G3 doesn't have the Wacom internals of the note devices.
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I know of the Wacom black magic trickery going on with the Note series, its the Digitizer-something or other.
But regarding a normal Android "type" screen, I have read somewhere, in the Google Android API documentation i believe, that there is a minimum contact "patch" size for the Android system to register, 1/4" or 6mm, i think it said.
But the exception to the typical Android touch scenario is the LG Stylos and the G Pad series.
How does the LG do this with the much smaller tip size, which is obviously different from the S-Pen's tip/ digitizer combo.
I haven't come across anything that the LG uses a special screen or such.
Does LG just use different/ altered source code to shrink the contact size required to use such a small tip as they do, about 1/8".
Anybody have any ideas?
If it is coding, could a Custom ROM utilize this altered coding to use a smaller tip as LG has for other devices?
My daily drivers are a Note 4 & a Note 10.1 2014, but had a Tab S 10.5, prior to the Note 10 and is when i started pursuing this because I hate a big bulbous tip that is too annoyingly big & imprecise.
Thanks in advance,
Shakey Dave