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[Q] Small, tight hinges for attaching mini bluetooth keyboard to phone?

So, I have a mini bluetooth keyboard that I want to attach to my phone using the extra battery cover, epoxy, and some hinges. However, I need the hinges to be especially strong and tight as I am going to attach the keyboard backwards in a Motorola backflip-esque layout so the keyboard doesn't cover the screen. Does anybody have any idea what type of hinges I should look out for, or what type of epoxy to buy, or any other tips of the trade in something like this?

funkybunk said:
So, I have a mini bluetooth keyboard that I want to attach to my phone using the extra battery cover, epoxy, and some hinges. However, I need the hinges to be especially strong and tight as I am going to attach the keyboard backwards in a Motorola backflip-esque layout so the keyboard doesn't cover the screen. Does anybody have any idea what type of hinges I should look out for, or what type of epoxy to buy, or any other tips of the trade in something like this?
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Really? Yo your just asking to end up with a phone that looks like a three year-old put together. But maybe im just under estimating your skills. Got any pics of what your working with I would be glad to help. I've done autobody all my life and am in school now for Computer Engineering so I've got a nack for fabricating. E-mail me @ [email protected]

You want to glue the keyboard to your phone?
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nickmcminn60 said:
Really? Yo your just asking to end up with a phone that looks like a three year-old put together. But maybe im just under estimating your skills. Got any pics of what your working with I would be glad to help. I've done autobody all my life and am in school now for Computer Engineering so I've got a nack for fabricating. E-mail me @ [email protected]
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Well, I honestly don't care about the outcome because if I dislike it, I can just buy a new back cover. Hell, the phone came with two in the box if I regret it. And I'm just looking for either a hinge with a hold on itself so that it can support the phone (as I'm pretty much installing them in a way where they would normally just flap around) and some sort of material that can stick with epoxy, considering we don't have a lot of space in the phone's back cover for screws.

have you tried velcro?
also can you post the link of the keyboard you are using?
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I'm just using one of the simple mini bluetooth keyboards from amazon. I got it for $18. I like how thin and light it is.

Why not use blue tooth?
I am using my old nokia blue tooth key board.

wtf.now? said:
Why not use blue tooth?
I am using my old nokia blue tooth key board.
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...Did you read not just the title, but the actual post? I am using bluetooth for the keyboard, and now I'm attaching it with small box hinges and epoxy. Wish me luck. xD

I've seen it done before on an HD2 with the same keyboard and it didn't look half bad.

So I am almost finished with it and my results were satisfactory. I messed up a lot so there is a lot of extra epoxy and it doesn't look too good at the moment, but if I can find epoxy remover that is plastic-safe I could clean it up a bit more. Another issue is the way it was positioned that made me have to redo the entire thing. If you bring the keyboard too close to the edge of the phone, it won't fold all the way out and will hit the volume buttons. That is because of the curved design of the phone. I'm thinking of going over the whole thing with spraypaint once I get extra money, as I also had to use aluminum pieces to compensate for the small size of the hinges to attach it to the back (It won't work attaching them from the sides.) When I get it cleaned up (or not, if I can not have people in the thread going "zomg you just ruined your vibrant gtfo") I can post pictures of the basic hinge design I did. If you want to try it yourself, know what you're getting into because the vibrant isn't as square as the hd2.

http://www.amazon.com/Stowaway-Ultr...KCXE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1300629708&sr=8-1

funkybunk said:
...Did you read not just the title, but the actual post? I am using bluetooth for the keyboard, and now I'm attaching it with small box hinges and epoxy. Wish me luck. xD
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d00d the nokia blue tooth keyboard comes with a cell phone stand so you stand your cell in your keyboard.
Its what I use. and trust me I use my cell as it was a laptop. I do a lot of remote work from it including shh.
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-produc...eless-keyboards/nokia-wireless-keyboard-su-8w
Just saying.

wtf.now? said:
d00d the nokia blue tooth keyboard comes with a cell phone stand so you stand your cell in your keyboard.
Its what I use. and trust me I use my cell as it was a laptop. I do a lot of remote work from it including shh.
http://www.nokiausa.com/find-produc...eless-keyboards/nokia-wireless-keyboard-su-8w
Just saying.
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It has no use to me, considering I already purchased and attached the keyboard and the keyboard is supposed to be for text messaging mostly, and carrying a bigger bluetooth keyboard is just inconvenient for me.

best of luck i'd like to try this too

Are these keyboards any good ?

So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !

I used this one for while, until I returned it- no complaints. I just didn't need it.
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tabl...8N7M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331081016&sr=8-2
Here's a quick look at it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G-y4XecRYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I use the original Keyboard Dock since yesterday, ordered for 60 euros, and its awesome.. Dont use china rubbish!
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Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG
I have the original Keyboard-Case combo, meaning this:
uh can't post links, so here is the name: Samsung BKC-1B1DEBGXEG Bluetooth keyboard ...
Go out and buy it, it's awesome!
Bluetooth connection is really easy, it has a fast wake up (and you can wake your device up by pressing any key [this even unlocks a non-protection screenlock] whoo!) and a humongous long battery duration.
Additionally, the build quality is very fine!
Rate it 6 of 5 stars

Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199

Thinking that this might be stupid / crazy..
Well, I dont know whether this is the best thread to post this.. Please let me know if there's any other thread that to which this post has to be moved..
So my crazy / stupid question is ---
Has anyone tried using the asus keyboard dock with the samsung galaxy tab ?
I think this may be something stupid becoz i am already thinking that the charging port for both the tabs are totally different and this may not work at all..
Still I am just curious to know whether this has been tried by anybody...

DannyBiker said:
So I got a 10.1v model, not the standard 10.1 so pretty much any keyboard that would need the tab to slide into it is a no-go for me as the 10.1v is a few milliliters thicker.
So, unless you point me to anything else, this is the only keyboard I've encountered that I could use that is somewhat "tied" to the tablet :
http://www.befr.ebay.be/itm/270895288302?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
These are chinese products and I'm afraid of its quality, but I don't have a choice.
Did one of you guys purchased one of these ? Are they any good ?
I tried to find something but nothing...I could go with a "floating" bluetooth keyboard is the quality is better.
Thanks !
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To answer the OP's question... I just got one from eBay for $26 US. It works very well. For that much money, it's hard to beat. Your CDMA GT should fit in it just fine. Both the keybaord and the case are good quality, and can't be beat for that much money.
I do see one potential problem, however. When the case is latched closed the rubber (soft plastic) bracket that supports the base of the tablet comes into contact the screen and does exert a slight amount of pressure on the screen. Over time I am guessing that may damage the screen, but I'm just guessing - not sure about that at all.
Actually, I like the standard Samsung book case the best for the Galaxy Tab, and I don't always need the keyboard. So I'm going to take the little rubber keyboard out of this case and carry that separately. For $26, even that is a great buy.
This case/keyboard is sold under a bunch of brand names. Here is a bunch of reviews on Amazon, if you like to read them.

Hey Dan,
I've been using the Mobile Keyboard 6000 from Microsoft for a few weeks now.
The price is a bit overkill but sure worth the quality you get. And the number pad being detached from the letters is a nice feature if your on the go all the time, leaving the number pad behind is sometimes a plus. It is slightly bigger then the tablet itself but i don't mind since also use it for at home.
Ive been rocking the typing book cover for 2 days now, and so far i like it aside from a few things. But its not putting me off of it with its sleek tight fit.
The main issue is that there is no place to hold a stylus. (PS definitely worth the 20 bones to pick one up) and second, when it is being held in its typing arrangement, you cannot have anything plugged in besides the headphones. It does have a small slit so that the headphone jack doesn't have to be removed and put back in every time but they didn't do the same for the charger/accessory port.
Cheers!

KCHawkeye02 said:
Got this case for $60 at Target. works great.
http://www.target.com/p/Samsung-Galaxy-Keyboard-Case/-/A-13738199
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I just picked the same one up at Target for $30 on clearance yesterday. Not a fan and I wouldn't recommend it. The cookie-sheet case feels flimsy and it doesn't protect the back of the tablet at all. The metal edges are kind of sharp (not knife sharp) but I have to be careful not to scratch the sides of my tab when putting it face down in this case. I also don't feel that it's very secured when closed (tablet face down). The keyboard works alright, it's very responsive, and it pairs easily and maintains it's connection, but some of the dedicated buttons don't work. I also would rather re-map some of the android keys such as the email button to open gmail. Maybe I can, but haven't looked into it. I guess it's ok if you're looking for a cheap bluetooth keyboard, but I don't trust it to protect my tablet. Idk how logitech justified this as a $100 case.
**edit** Been using this case with the blueputdroid app on my phone as a mouse and am loving it!

[Q] keyboard cover

anyone find a decent slim keyboard cover?
I guess the price will be very high as the user base is small.

I purchased this one:
/itm/LG-8-3inch-G-Pad-Slim-cover-flip-single-stage-stand-Case-High-Qulity-Tablet-PC-/221320680238?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123
...the forum would not let me post a correct link so add www ebay com before the link.
High price but i could not find any other that would ship to sweden. Amazon had some but the shipping price was higher (total cost more den 55$).
I did not want to wait any longer for my cover since i have a young child that likes to play around with my stuff . I needed a cover fast. I am sure that there will be others out there as soon as the sales of the unit increase.

That's just a case, I think he is looking for a combined case/keyboard.
Which I have not seen yet.

Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4

yes. Exactly something like this. thanks for the information
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Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4
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twemco said:
Is that what you're looking for? I cannot post link at the moment. It's from amazon.ca
/Asuxtek%C2%AELG-Bluetooth-Keyboard-Portfolio-Case/dp/B00EVNHQF4
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This looks great. How did it work?

I read the reviews and I just bought a similar case but bought a bluetooth keyboard separately. Its similar to Apple with the scissor keys and works well. This way I can use it for movies and not have to worry about a keyboard in the case.

RyanEJ25 said:
I read the reviews and I just bought a similar case but bought a bluetooth keyboard separately. Its similar to Apple with the scissor keys and works well. This way I can use it for movies and not have to worry about a keyboard in the case.
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I'm expecting one of these to be delivered on Monday. Unfortunately the reviews are for different ELTD products, without the keyboard included.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-K...eather/dp/B00DVGXNKO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I'll try to provide an opinion once I've had a chance to test it out. I am concerned about the ergonomics as that tab sticking out in front of the keyboard looks like a major irritation, but I'll hold judgement until I have hands on experience. FWIW I already have the ELTD (branded "IVSO") Black III cover, which is pretty good for the price, so I hope this product will prove just as good.

tdodd said:
I'm expecting one of these to be delivered on Monday. Unfortunately the reviews are for different ELTD products, without the keyboard included.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bluetooth-K...eather/dp/B00DVGXNKO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
I'll try to provide an opinion once I've had a chance to test it out. I am concerned about the ergonomics as that tab sticking out in front of the keyboard looks like a major irritation, but I'll hold judgement until I have hands on experience. FWIW I already have the ELTD (branded "IVSO") Black III cover, which is pretty good for the price, so I hope this product will prove just as good.
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The keyboard cover arrived on Saturday and I've had a chance to give it a workout. I'm using it now to type this.Here are some observations....
1. The overall impression is quite good. It seems well made and holds both tablet andkeyboard securely with good protection.
2. The whole package becomes quite heavy and bulky, not unlike a hefty Filofax of old.
3. The keyboard fastens into the cover with magnets. The strength of hold seems spot on - held firmly enough, but easily removed.
4. The keyboard part is very light indeed. The weight is in the cover.
5. The keyboard works well, but of course the keys are small and close and typing mistakes are made as I need to get used to it.
6. Unfortunately for the UK market there is no £ key on the keyboard and I have no idea how to access the key without turning off the keyboard, waiting for the tablet to release the connection and then using the on screen keyboard to input the character. It takes longer to drop the missing keyboard connection than to reacquire it.
7. The tab on the cover is soft enough to be tucked out of the way under the keyboard and will stay put fairly easily.
8. The biggest functional problem (bulk, weight and missing key aside) is that with the tablet secured within the cover the surrounding material, which covers the bezels, sticks up proud and make it quite difficult to touch the notification bar for a double tap or to pull notifications down. To a lesser degree there is a similar problem with the navigation buttons.
9. The cover does act like a smart cover, turning the tablet on and off when opened and closed.
10. If the tablet is rebooted the Bluetooth pairing is lost and manual reconnection is necessary.
Overall it's not a bad product, especially for the price, but there is room for improvement. I will continue using the keyboard in isolation, but instead of the heavy/bulky/awkward cover I shall use the cover I already bought, with smart cover, and use the keyboard loose and free from the tablet. That will allow me to grab the tablet for a low profile and light weight for mobility (pocketable) and just leave the keyboard back home on the desk (coffee table).

tdodd said:
6. Unfortunately for the UK market there is no £ key on the keyboard and I have no idea how to access the key without turning off the keyboard, waiting for the tablet to release the connection and then using the on screen keyboard to input the character. It takes longer to drop the missing keyboard connection than to reacquire it.
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I wonder if this app would help - I used it with another bluetooth keyboard and tablet when I had the same issue, though I haven't tried it with my G Pad yet. In my case, the £ sign was printed on the keyboard but despite this it was permanently set to US layout in the software somehow (despite the tablet language and default input language being set to UK), so I got # when I tried to get £, I think, and also " and @ were swapped. Basically the app lets you select a region/language and then your external keyboard should behave as if the keys are what you'd expect for that region - so if you press Shift+3 you should get £ regardless of what's printed on the keyboard itself. It doesn't display an onscreen keyboard, and the tablet should default automatically to the app settings when it detects your external keyboard, so once you do the initial setup it's pretty seamless. There's a demo version so you could see if it worked before buying. It's called External Keyboard Helper and is available from the Play store.

Physical Keyboard

What's going on everybody. I had a weird idea, I was just thinking of the New Keyone by blackberry and its keyboard. The keyboard with the android integration is amazing, but the reason I'm telling you about this is that I would love to have an accessory Slide Keyboard case for landscape in LG V20. This is a request that may not be fulfilled, but an idea that I wanted. If not specific atleast a universal sliding keyboard. If this already exists I'm sorry, but I have not found it if it does.

Not sure about the build quality of this one. https://www.amazon.com/Detachable-Removable-Keyboard-Bluetooth-Smartphone/dp/B01LXMCIWG
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Someday all my dreams will come true and someone will release a keyboard slider that can at least be somehow hacked to work with my phone.
I'd pay 100 for a keyboard that worked and felt as good as the keyboard on my HTC G1!
I have one like the one in the posted link. But those kind can't be used while holding the phone. That is to say, they aren't in a rigid type case so you can't grasp the keyboard only without the phone flopping back.
Maybe I could duct tape my G1 to the back of my V20.....

I feel the same. I really want a keyboard on a phone (have been using droid 1-4 + photon q) but also want a hifi dac, good camera and removable battery. So I went with two phones ._. unfortunately. Moto Z + Qwerty Keyboard + V20 for music listening and photography.
If someone would make a keyboard case for the V20 id be SO in!!!

I would gladly pay to have the keyboard from my old Motorola Droid, I had one of the rare bumpy keyboards and it was glorious. It wouldn't be overly complex to engineer a bluetooth keyboard that attached by replacing the battery cover, then slid out in the same way my droid did.

probably 3D print something.

relikborg said:
.... It wouldn't be overly complex to engineer a bluetooth keyboard that attached by replacing the battery cover, then slid out in the same way my droid did.
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You think? Let us know when you've done it then.

the only solution to this would be to buy a Moto Z (or Z Play or Z2 Play) and get this:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/keyboard-mod-a-physical-keyboard-for-the-moto-z/x/13845362#/
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although this might be a possibility:
https://www.amazon.com/Detachable-Removable-Keyboard-Bluetooth-Smartphone/dp/B01LXMCIWG
it claims specially designed. none of the pictures really help.

mr.lumbergh said:
Not sure about the build quality of this one. https://www.amazon.com/Detachable-Removable-Keyboard-Bluetooth-Smartphone/dp/B01LXMCIWG
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Just bought one. I guess I'll let you guys know what it's like in a month when it gets here from Hong Kong.

im going to check that out!

TL;DR: I bought this so you don't have to. Do not buy this.
The keyboard case arrived today. Well I've taken one for the team. It is almost entirely useless.
All this is, is a pleather folding folio with a generic LGV20 case glued to one side, and a generic Bluetooth keyboard velcroed to the other side. The spline of the folio is extremely floppy, and there is no way to hold the phone and type without something shaking around or sacrificing one hand to hold the top part leaving and the other hand to try to type solo. Unless you have three (or four) hands there is simply no orientation that this can be used for handheld typing without hand acrobatics and frustation.
The credit card holder acts as a kickstand, so if you have a flat stable surface to set the phone on, you can pull the keyboard off and type to your hearts delight. This is the only way you can really use this thing. When in kickstand mode, there is no good way to secure the clasp and it will keep flopping in front of the screen blocking your view. I finally ripped part of the phone off the adhesive so I could tuck the clasp into the newly created gap. If you're to that point, you might as well purchase a nice kickstand case that you really like and a bluetooth keyboard that you really like and just use them separately.
The keyboard is decent enough for a no name generic, it's universal and has selectable modes for Android, IOS, and windows. Though a few of the buttons I'm not sure what they actually do and none of the function buttons really offer much that I find useful.
The seller is wonderful, the package included a couple of nice notes and some "free" gifts - a universal plastic phone/tablet kickstand that isn't as nice as others I own but isn't total and complete garbage. It also came with a free USB memory card reader, which I need another one of like I need a hole in the head. But the thought was nice.

keyboard cover - can it be flipped over?

The new S4 is marketed as to use with a keyboard, preferably the original samsung keyboard cover. In multiple reviews I've read you can use this cover in only one position. What I would like to know is if you can flip the keyboard completely over (360 degrees) as I would do intuitively when using it as a drawing block using the S Pen.

Wondering that too, I've pre-ordered so will get the keyboard cover free a few weeks after I get the device, so potentially it'll be unprotected during that time. I'll probably buy a case from Amazon (seen one for around £6) to see me through.

From what I saw in store, yes the keyboard can flip over behind the device.
Though I did find this interesting on the Tab S3 the little 1/3 flap behind the tablet secured to the back side of the device automatically, pretty well to hold it in place if you flipped the keyboard over behind the screen. The S4 did not, and there was a little extra slop in the case because of this. Course it might be the security device holding it down but its just something I noticed.

Well, yes and no. It can but backwards. It would have been nice if it was able to fold back with the tablet's back against the keyboard but it actually flips over so that the keys are at the bottom and the tablet is at the top. I'm unsure if this does damage to the keys but its not optimal.

Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.

AsItLies said:
Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but (most) obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The real leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.

Yemble said:
That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.

AsItLies said:
Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Personally, I never play Pokemon, however, my daughter does on her commute to work... and the Tab S4 is her tablet Cables and peripherals are totally impractical in this particular usage case. Everyone has different requirements. Anyway, her "free" keyboard case has just been delivered today, so I'll check it out tonight.

Yemble said:
Everyone has different requirements. .
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thank you for making my point.

AsItLies said:
thank you for making my point.
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You are welcome.
However, this is an interesting point for discussion, as to how folk plan to make use of their new investment. From what I can work out from my daughter, at home it will be docked into a Cable Matters USB-C hub and used to stream movies over an Ethernet LAN connection, to her HDMI TV, amongst numerous other things. At work, she will use it as a desktop with the keyboard case and a bluetooth mouse. I've already described her commute.
If it were mine, I'd be using it as a passenger navigation device, along with AlpineQuest and a full set of OSGB maps, which is what I currently do with my aging NotePro.

Now that I've received the keyboard case I can confirm that the case can be flipped in such a way that the keyboard faces up, into the rear of the case when using as a traditional tablet. In this mode, the footprint of the tablet extends along a long edge by 38mm, which is due to the way the "fold" works.
Alternatively, it can be flipped with the keyboard facing down, which only extends the footprint by 10mm along the same edge.
First impressions are that it adds a fair bit of weight to the tablet, mainly due to good build quality. The case is pretty solid, but not padded, so it may not be great at absorbing shocks, say from a drop! The keyboard is compact, but has a reasonable feel. Note, that the pen is essential for using the keyboard with DeX as there is no trackpad.
Is it worth the RRP? Err, no, however, as a pre-order "freebe", I've got no grounds to complain.