Hi all,
I'm after a very minimum Tom with no sense just things like phone messages browser, that's it
Help would be much appreciated
Thanks in advance
Bates060
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Most minimal: devnull
second most minimal with some very useful features: oxygen
least minimal without sense: cyanogen mod
Get the oxygen version. It's the lightest and most minimalist ROM with some added features that you'll probably be thankful for. Things like notification toggles, and customizations and such.
DevNull is just too darn simple, and CyanogenMod has a lot of features.
mortenmhp said:
Most minimal: devnull
second most minimal with some very useful features: oxygen
least minimal without sense: cyanogen mod
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You should add redux to oxygen, imho.
I had tried Redux, Oxygen, DevNull all works perfect. You can choose any of them. U can also try MIUI
The first that come to my mind are Oxygen and Villain... Oxygen is obviously meant to be a minimal type distribution, but Villain, I've found, is also rather minimal, and comes with a crazy kernel that saves a ton of battery life. Um there's also extra features in the Villain rom that you can explore if you really want to, but I'm not sure that's what you're looking for.
Thanks for your replys,
I have used all mentioned but devnul. I shall that that now and get back to you. The Tom's mentioned above still to much for me lol
Thanks in advance bates060
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Love devnull rom but could do with busybox. Anyway of installing with s-on
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Oxygen is best!! Dont install that sense crap... looks good, but costs a lot of Power
I've tried it but seems to be sluggish and stuff I don't really want on it. Is there a way of putting busybox on devnull but without s-off?
Thanks in advance bates060
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Oxygen, easy...
xiadao96 said:
Oxygen is best!! Dont install that sense crap... looks good, but costs a lot of Power
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This is wrong. Of course it will consume power when you allow all widgets and services to sync and connect as they please. I use Launcher pro and I have not seen any noticeable difference between aosp and sense.
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This is wrong. Of course it will consume power when you allow all widgets and services to sync and connect as they please. I use Launcher pro and I have not seen any noticeable difference between aosp and sense.
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Gonna differ with you slightly here. Sense has a lot more "monitoring" apps than AOSP, and of course, the behemoth that is Rosie.apk doesn't help much either. While using a different launcher helps, it is not the be all and end all. Try using an actual AOSP ROM, maybe (it's just my opinion though) you'll get even better results
Now using Devnull with busybox installed via titanium backup pro. Set CPU and auto memory killer on strict. Achieved loads more battery life.
Also removed email, talk etc.
Thanks all, bates060
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erklat said:
This is wrong. Of course it will consume power when you allow all widgets and services to sync and connect as they please. I use Launcher pro and I have not seen any noticeable difference between aosp and sense.
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Yeah i guess sense hasn't much to do with power usage. Anyway imho our Desire is a couple points too weak for such an heavy interface, aosp roms run much smoother and faster: all of the sense roms i tried so far get really choppy at times...
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Hello to all,
I have tried the opendesire Rom and it's really really fast and is the best I think for gaming but I love sense, his widget, and better application such as calendar,
Music player, camera app dialer and Facebook integration with contact!
So my question is if is possible and how make a non sense Rom like sense with almost or all features of sense.theme style included of course.
Thanks to all
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Launcher pro + has some identical widgets, you can try n use it instead...
How about a sense ROm without the keyboard, txt, contact and phone app. Leave those stock Android and hopefully have the Sense widgets.
So you want a very fast stable rom but has sense?
OD with launcherpro is proberly nearest. HTC havent released alot of the froyo source codes (for Desire) so most of the optimisations are just from a base Sense rom.
This means, there isn't alot of tuning ie. UVOC.
Can result in alot of bugs. Like removing the filling from a cake. Gonna get a bit messy.
Pinky's rom is the one i'm using atm, based on MCR if i remember....
Very stable, fast. Some issues with battery, but a bit of tuning to setCPU and your fine.
Apart from that, it does the job nicely.
I've been switching between Pinkys and OD lately. Just cant live without the sense camera, the dialer, and the incoming call screen. But OD does have the speed, battery life, stability and is a bit more "open" thanks to google passing out source codes with every happymeal.
Also, both OD and Pinky have updates available through RomManager, so you can always stay up to date
Now I have nextsense Rom and is very fast but is impossible to oc and don't have the gpu drivers that in most case can make the difference when playing heavy and not optimized games.
But I really don't like vanilla theme of od!!!and HTC has made a wonderful job with their app such as camera contacts calendar etc etc....
So it's a very big hard choice!
Whit launcherpro what can I do?
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Same here. Can't live with out HTC apps. But got a big problem with battery life while using sense roms.
What i am looking for is a Sense Rom with the best battery life? Anyone can suggest one?
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ngay29 said:
Same here. Can live with out HTC apps. But got a big problem with battery life while using sense roms.
What i am looking for is a Sense Rom with the best battery life? Anyone can suggest one?
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Give Pays a try, with the radio version in my sig. I'm finding it very good...
I have very good Battery Life with newest Radio and Modaco r8
ryanrich said:
Give Pays a try, with the radio version in my sig. I'm finding it very good...
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Whats your avg battery life with usage?
twist1234 said:
Whats your avg battery life with usage?
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Battery life will vary completely between users but mine is around 24 - 32 hours with heavy usage...
ryanrich said:
Battery life will vary completely between users but mine is around 24 - 32 hours with heavy usage...
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care to describe your heavy usage pattern?
I wonder if this thread is legal or not XD I would like to see how many responds I will get for this stats =)
We love our Desire(s) and our Desire(s) won't be that great without these souls XD This is not a competition or as such. It is just to see how many people are actually using these custom roms and their favours on them
And this poll is just for CM/DF/OD's users If I have an option "None of them" then people will ask why don't I put other roms as well. The point is: There are so many of them out there and we all know where they come from.
lpachuong said:
I wonder if this thread is legal or not XD I would like to see how many responds I will get for this stats =)
We love our Desire(s) and our Desire(s) won't be that great without these souls XD This is not a competition or as such. It is just to see how many people are actually using these custom roms
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Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062
Where's the option for 'None of the above' - it's not a true poll if you don't allow those not using them to vote...
Kali- said:
Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062
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I know that. That why I said this is not a competion or whatsoever. It is just to see people's taste on these roms
EddyOS said:
Where's the option for 'None of the above' - it's not a true poll if you don't allow those not using them to vote...
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true. plz have a none of the above option as well. ;-)
I use the DeFroST 3.0 and I feel so good. =D
Sorry for my english
cyanogen THE KING
NOW NO DeFrost and OpenDesire
Only cyanogen clone
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i think this tread shoud be closed.
Why? I would like to know the differences.
I have tried defrost and i like the defrost setup and cyanogen settings.
I like the fact that through defrost setup i can change kernel and mv and mhz
as well as tweaking status bar from settings.
Does opendesire and CM offer these things?
defrost is best
This is going to be very biased - everyone has there own opinion.
However, those that vote MUST have used all the ROM's otherwise how do they know that one is better than the other??????
None of the above - LeeDroid w/ brightsilence.
Stock Android = bleugh ugliness.
jastonas said:
Why? I would like to know the differences.
I have tried defrost and i like the defrost setup and cyanogen settings.
I like the fact that through defrost setup i can change kernel and mv and mhz
as well as tweaking status bar from settings.
Does opendesire and CM offer these things?
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if you woud like to know differences , read changelog or test them yourself. its not so hard to backup and trie diffrent rom. this tread like the other one has no point and its just destroing comunity. let devs to do their work . if you woud like tread like this do one with benchmarks. if i say opendesire is best rom what does that mean to you? will you install it??
ReD_AvEnGeR said:
defrost is best
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nice and intellectual arguements...
Kali- said:
Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062
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kkaalldd said:
cyanogen THE KING
NOW NO DeFrost and OpenDesire
Only cyanogen clone
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I realy dont like to start argues between developers
I think threat be closed
How is comparing three ROMS going to start fights between developers?
abc27 said:
How is comparing three ROMS going to start fights between developers?
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when user didnt get the right info
Don't worry Kali I know you and defer are the only kernel guys. Cheers
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yup, DeFrost and OpenDesire are based on Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod is based on Google Android source, so then it must also be the same as the Android HTC sells? Start thinking people.
I tried Cyanogenmod at first and was very unhappy. Too few Desire users, too few Desire specific modifications, like up to date black theme. It also was full with bloatware (Amazon MP3, ADW Launcher) and I wasn't able to deinstall them with ADB completely. Don't know why. It also had some hick ups and consumed a lot of battery in my opinion, at least became the Desire hotter than usual.
Then I switched over to OpenDesire after I read that it is based on CM, thus also supports Bluetooth HID. Less bloatware, much slimmer and faster because no laggy ADW Launcher. Huge Userbase, with a up to date black theme with the circle battery mod. Overclocking features, etc. Perfect for me. And it runs fine at the moment and everything works as it should.
I haven't tried DeFrost yet, and won't plan to do it. The differences are marginal and to be honest, I don't really know what exactly the differences are. I just preferred OD because it seemed to me as if more users use it and AdamG releases more updates faster. I also decided to use OD because I have heard of it before several times, not so DeFrost.
However, OD and so should DeFrost, are much better than CM for us Desire users. Better optimized and more features for the Desire and much better support.
i tried them all in my search for a stock rom to compare it with my sense one.....and i must say that without saying cyanogen and defrost aren't good, OPENDESIRE is the best....very fast and very stable with customized options that do a lot of things....that's my opinion
I've been with CM7 from the start but don't know whether to stick with it now that leedroid has come up with his 3.0.X rom with Gingerbread.
I'd like your opinion of which would be better.
i.e. Pros and Cons.
Pros
:I like the look of stock GB, is there a theme for this on leedroid 3?
Fast, 1100 on average quad.
Very customize-able.e.g. performance, display, interface settings.
Cons:
low internal space, because of no A2SD++
idk anything alse.
So please convince me to go over to leedroid or stick with CM7
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p
vi.p said:
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p
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Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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johno168 said:
Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
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Wait never mind, found it. thx
Meaple said:
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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I agree CM7 is an awesome and very stable ROM, but since using it for a while, i feel like it is a bit too stock, so imight try out leedroid, but hate the hassle of restoring apps and settings.
I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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Yeah, thats why i love CM so much it's esaily customizable and so stable at the same time. Maybe i'll stick to CM, but do you know of any "sense themes" like the whole sense look and stuff but on CM? or Maybe even a gingerbread theme for leedroid/sense?
thx for the help!
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
vi.p said:
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
johno168 said:
Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
rawdealer said:
i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
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I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
johno168 said:
I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
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try with S2E...it's working for me
rawdealer said:
try with S2E...it's working for me
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I meant with s2e
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In Kali-'s CM7 Thread there is a link for instructions how to setup "Legacy App2SD" Perhaps this will work. Haven't tried it...
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I meant with s2e
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aha ok, in cyanogenmod settings---application---check allow app moving and in install location check internal and then try it if you allready have so, I can't help anymore
Hey guys, as the title really!
I've been a long term user of Android Revolution (flashed the day I got my Desire HD!) but I've recently switched to Cyanogen 7 to check it out, and I'm pretty impressed.
Mike1986 has just released 5.1.10 which looks awesome, I'm just wondering if anyone has any comparisons between the two ROMS in term of speed/battery life?
Thanks!
I have tried a few sense roms(including AR) and cyanogenmod pretty much beats them in every aspect(speed, battery life, general usability)...
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If you want the stock HTC Sense look and feel then go with Android Revolution. However if you want Android as Google intended then use Cyanogenmod.
Personally i liked both ROM's but i just couldn't give up Sense in the end.
I'm guessing they're both similar in terms of optimisation and performance tweaks? ARHD boasts a massive amount of tweaks in their thread but I can't seem to find much regarding C7.
AR is fast and the life span of the battery is quit good but the gps signal was very poor compare to CM7 is really good on detecting gps signal. So far was not much comment except the gps problem from the sense rom.
I really like CyanogenMod more even though I love some of the functions on Sense like the clock and usb connection features eg: internet passthrough.
I tried out Android Revolution HD but in the end I went back to CyanogenMod. ARHD is just not as fast because of Sense and it takes a lot longer to boot up too.
I am using ARHD and i am very impressed, by now i dont have any intention to change it
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dunks1 said:
I'm guessing they're both similar in terms of optimisation and performance tweaks? ARHD boasts a massive amount of tweaks in their thread but I can't seem to find much regarding C7.
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If you wanted to read over the tweaks list for CM7 you'd have to invest a couple of hours of your time! While ARHD has plenty of tweaks, these are essential modifications of the stock ROM. CM7 is built from the ground up and has low level code modifications from some very bright minds indeed. From kernel and driver tweaks to the ARM optimisations, CM7 is always a step ahead in this respect.
Regards.
I don't use rosie (or any of the sense widgets therefore) but do like some of the sense apps - people, dialer, calendar etc are all better than stock. Does cyanogen keep these?
I used ARHD no sense for a while (tested CM 6 and a few others) but since CM7 was released I will stick to it. Simply the best and fastest rom in my opinion.
Latest CM7 Nightly + LordMod UE UUV + 26.09.04.11 Radio seems to be the best combination for my DHD
In my opinion Android Revolution is better, because it looks better for me.
Tamen said:
I don't use rosie (or any of the sense widgets therefore) but do like some of the sense apps - people, dialer, calendar etc are all better than stock. Does cyanogen keep these?
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no, it does not, but you can still use ARHD with the no-sense mod which keeps those "sense" apps
the only thing i like about sense rom is the frienstream and the camera.
Thanks for the replies guys!
I've changed back to CM7 with a custom kernel (LorDModUE V4.0 BFSv404), I can't see me changing this for a while!
I really like ARHD no-Sense. So, if Cyanogen will be released and be cool than ARHD - maybe will be migrated..
chardd23 said:
the only thing i like about sense rom is the frienstream and the camera.
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Might be a stupid question but, you can't use the camera if you're not running sense???
Zbor said:
Might be a stupid question but, you can't use the camera if you're not running sense???
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You can't use the Sense camera app, you generally get the stock Android one instead. Some people prefer HTC's version, I don't use either so I can't really comment.
//Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk, all errors entirely intentional.
To be honest, ARHD and CM7 both are good ROM, but CM7 have one big issue that can't solve until now.. the wired headset not working...
Speed wise, both not much different.
ARHD look much better...
Shinobee said:
To be honest, ARHD and CM7 both are good ROM, but CM7 have one big issue that can't solve until now.. the wired headset not working...
Speed wise, both not much different.
ARHD look much better...
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WHAT!?!?!?! LOL!!! Dude, headset is working perfectly! I'm using it almost every day. The thing is that you have to configure your phone properly. It can easily be messed up by music apps.
Shinobee and Dod6 - you can configure CM7 to make it look the way you want. If you put a little work into it, the UI may look waaay better that Sense and won't require that much from the phone.
Just flashed arhd the other day and thought it was very nice, I've moved onto virtuous unity 2.39 now and I must say that I find it much smoother and more responsive. I'm probably gonna stick with this for a while but I've decided that my next ROM must be non sense so add to broaden my horizons, likely to be cyanogen 7 as a first choice.
For speed, lag free, long battery life and plenty of free space for loads of apps.
Many thanks
Defrost or open desire could be something for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
Especially opendesire is recommend very often if you want a good battery life.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Thanks for your help. The download link for opendesire doesn't appear to be working. Do you or anyone else know where I can find it?
MatDrOiD said:
Defrost or open desire could be something for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
Especially opendesire is recommend very often if you want a good battery life.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Does it really have to be a froyo rom? If you can stick with gingerbread, you can use oxygen or devnull. These roms are from the same developer, who also programmed opendesire (adamg):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971904 (oxygen)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968504 (devnull)
Otherwise try defrost, it will also be really well on battery life.
I have been using Oxygen 2.1.4 but find it quite slow and laggy, especially when scrolling in the apps drawer. I tried installing Go launcher to see if it is any smoother but it still lagged so thats why I was looking for a really smooth rom that is fast and lag free and as froyo is official and has been for ages I thought there must be a 100% (or as close to) custom rom developed and that's the one I am looking for at the moment. Cheers for your help though mate. I'll give defrost a go.
MatDrOiD said:
Does it really have to be a froyo rom? If you can tick with gingerbread, you can use oxygen or devnull. These roms are from the same developer, who also programmed opendesire (adamg):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971904 (oxygen)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=968504 (devnull)
Otherwise try defrost, it will also be really well on battery life.
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Leedroid 2.5 is pretty good needs
DesUKire said:
I have been using Oxygen 2.1.4 but find it quite slow and laggy, especially when scrolling in the apps drawer.
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I think that all roms lag at least a little in the app drawer. My ROM lags, I have two stock Desires here too which lag less, but do nevertheless.
Does the op look for an aosp or Sense rom?
Sense - AuraxTSense 8.4 was the best rom overall performance and battery wise.
Aosp - I liked python's rom the most, but it is no longer developed.
if you are after i very stable and smooth froyo rom i would recommend Cool Froyo DATA++ by coolexe
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=998050