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[Q] Can Titanium Backup restore your homepages with a new ROM

I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.

PAPutzback said:
I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.
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no - but if you use launcherpro you can save your home setup

fachadick said:
no - but if you use launcherpro you can save your home setup
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When it TB says system data is that like low level stuff that might conflict with code in a new rom. Or when I install a new ROM should I restore missing apps+ all system data to get back up to where I was before.
So If I do a Titanium backup of just Apps and assuming I have launcher pro and did a backup. When I install the new ROM will restore my apps would I then go into launcher pro and do a restore there and everything is like it was before - the internal code changes the new ROM puts in place?

PAPutzback said:
When it TB says system data is that like low level stuff that might conflict with code in a new rom. Or when I install a new ROM should I restore missing apps+ all system data to get back up to where I was before.
So If I do a Titanium backup of just Apps and assuming I have launcher pro and did a backup. When I install the new ROM will restore my apps would I then go into launcher pro and do a restore there and everything is like it was before - the internal code changes the new ROM puts in place?
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Well not exactly, Widgets currently are broken. if you back up with launcherpro it will save your homepages/settings of launcher pro however all the widgets will be broken and need to be removed and re placed. If you back up your apps and app data you can then restore the app+ app data and your apps should function as normal but low level system stuff wont. (contacts can be re synced through Google)
over all i have not had many problems using titanium back up with system info restore on like roms (ie 2.2 to 2.2, or 2.1 to 2.1) I have had a few issues that i have worked out going form 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versus or switching from sense to aosp roms.
I am sure there is the potential for problems restoring system data but for me it has been few and far between unless switching to different rom styles as indicated above with different os version or if going between sense and aosp.
my recommendation back up everything with titanium back up, back up through launcher pro. wipe/flash new rom restore all system+app+data. if you have issues you can always re-flash and not flash the system data. if you dont then you are good to go and you only have to replace your widgets.

PAPutzback said:
I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.
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In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored. If you are flashing from a sense rom to a sense rom (with same software version, i.e. 2.1 or 2.2), there shouldn't be a problem restoring the Desktop settings. Like was mentioned earlier, widgets usually won't load correctly so you just delete them and reapply them.

nukedukem said:
In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored.
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Where's this located? I'm not seeing it in my version, and didn't even know it was supposed to be there (you learn something new every day). Could this be because I have the free version as opposed to the paid version?

if you go to the backed up files you will find it. it isnt a batch command. it is basically the tb file it saves the desktop settings to. when yuo look at all the files and settings yuo have backed up look for desktop and it should have a tb icon and yes it is green click it hit restore.

omegasun18 said:
if you go to the backed up files you will find it. it isnt a batch command. it is basically the tb file it saves the desktop settings to. when yuo look at all the files and settings yuo have backed up look for desktop and it should have a tb icon and yes it is green click it hit restore.
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weird - don't seem to have any listing that says "desktop". Although I've only played around with TB a little, so maybe I didn't to the kind of backup that would have backed it up? I've always just restored apps from market one-by-one - and the only settings I save are things like call logs (I'm ocd like that). I think I did one "real" backup with TB ages ago, now I just use it to make sure that busybox is set up right.

Yeah I don't see a backup or anything called "Desktop". Can you point me to exactly where it is? I'm using the dontate version. What I do is restore all apps+data+system data and that seems to restore my homescreens. I usally have to do a reboot after the restore to get everything working and my widgets usally come back as well.

You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00

nukedukem said:
You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00
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Holy cow, you're right! Never noticed it before.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

nukedukem said:
You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00
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Found it... good looking out.

ATownI20 said:
Found it... good looking out.
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What if the ROM has not a Sense interface?
For exampe I am using MIUI and updating the ROM every month.
By using TB and restoring ALL I can have my icons, widgets & layout back, nonetheless I am afraid that by restoring ALL (apps + systems data) I am writing over the new system improvements and somehow getting back to the "old" system.
Any advice on that?

For non-Sense (lol nonsense), uhh anyway, for non-sense Roms just find the home setup you are using and restore the Data...
For example I have touchwiz, so I go to restore touchwiz and do data only, and voila! desktop back to normal without all that annoying redo work

Thanks for the help guys
I tried looking under "H" and "D" but didn't fine it. So I read the entire thread again and I looked under "T" for Touchwiz (I'm using Echoe TW Rom presently) and there is was. After restoring it I have to add my BBC widget again, though. But that's minor. Thanks again guys!!!

nukedukem said:
In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored. If you are flashing from a sense rom to a sense rom (with same software version, i.e. 2.1 or 2.2), there shouldn't be a problem restoring the Desktop settings. Like was mentioned earlier, widgets usually won't load correctly so you just delete them and reapply them.
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There is binary backup for widgets search widget in TiBUp.
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Didn't work on CM13.
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I don't remember the last time I was able to do just that with titanium backup.
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[Q] How to keep homescreen settings with ROM change?

I'm running the stock deodexed 3.29 but want to try out some of the other ROMs out there.
I plan on doing a nand backup and a Titanium backup for my apps and app settings.
But, is there any way for me to save my homescreen settings and then apply them again once I've restored all my apps?

Titanium should backup all your icons and widgets as part of the launcher data. What launcher are you using?
Note that normal widgets can't be restored properly. They will show up in the right place, but it will be an error message instead of the actual widget, and you will have to remove and re-add them. I believe this is an Android limitation. The special LauncherPro widgets don't have this issue.

I'm just running stock Sense launcher, save for a couple Rosie/lockscreen mods.
It's just a pain in the butt to go back in and re-add all my quick contacts and icons. I swear I did a Titanium restore before when going from 3.26 to 3.29 deodexed, and it did not restore anything on my home screens (it went to full OEM stock homescreen setup). Not sure what I'm missing then.

It should be the [Desktop] HTC Sense option, IIRC. You might have to reboot after restoring to get it to show up.

Noxious Ninja said:
It should be the [Desktop] HTC Sense option, IIRC. You might have to reboot after restoring to get it to show up.
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Hmmm. It's currently backed up so I'm assuming it was last time I restored also. Well I'll give it a shot again and see what happens. Worst case, it takes me an extra few minutes to set things up.

It's a system app, so if you were just restoring user apps+data, it would've missed it. Other than that, I'm not sure. It's been a while since I used the stock Sense launcher and had to restore it.

Ok thanks.
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[Q] NooB help: Best way to try a new ROM and minimize setup?

I'm new to the rooting, rom'ing, etc and was wondering what the best way is to try a new ROM and minimize setup of all my apps(and their settings) again on the new ROM??
I tried the Warm Z 2.2 ad reloaded my installed apps with Astro but I had to redo all the settings for the apps and where they were on the screens. is thre any way to avoid this and make switching ROM's fast and easy?
THANKS !!
-Chuck

You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.

byrong said:
You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.
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Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
Thanks !!

KB3MMX said:
Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
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You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
KB3MMX said:
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
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Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.

byrong said:
You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.
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Awesome! That help me alot, thanks !!

Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required

0soPolar said:
Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required
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Great idea, thanks !!

[Q] Backup and restore homescreens

Hi guys, not 100% sure this is the right place, please correct me if it isn't.
I had an idea: since there are ways to copy homescreens from one launcher to another and there are backup/restore options in launchers, is there such a thing for Sense 4.x ?
It would save a lot of time and trouble with flashing roms, but also it's nice to simply have a backup when things go wrong.
We have "scenes" which are basically backups of the homescreen, so we only need a way to export those and import later. OR are these already backupped with a full phone data backup? (via the hidden backup/restore app)

Check for the app named with 'HTC Sense xxxx' in TiBackup & backup it. If you've restored it later, most of the things on your homescreens will get restored. Try!

shree.cse said:
Check for the app named with 'HTC Sense xxxx' in TiBackup & backup it. If you've restored it later, most of the things on your homescreens will get restored. Try!
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Thanks man that's easyer than I thought haha. Hadn't used TiBackup yet for this purpose.
ViperX here I come

Just to confirm: that worked like a charm. Only thing to look out for is that you should install/restore your apps first, because it can't put icons down for apps that are not (yet) installed.
Cheers!

Most complete backup software?

I'm looking for a software that can backup everything on my phone. Actually I use AppBacup&Restore. But I want something that restore my application, widget, and folder on my homescreen. I tryed Titaniu but I'm not familiar with it.
Any suggestion?

I've always preferred my backup root over titanium. From memory it backs up widgets and home screen shortcuts but I haven't used it in months and not 100% certain
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Titanium Backup is supposed to be the best there is but you need root as far as i know

I got root. But does titanium backup my home screen with my widgets

loscamos said:
I got root. But does titanium backup my home screen with my widgets
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nothing can beat titanium backup,but n if u r using a third party launcher then it will backup ...

loscamos said:
I got root. But does titanium backup my home screen with my widgets
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Your screen layouts should be determined by your launcher. Which means if you restore your launcher data, everything should be as is. I know some of the launchers have their own backup/restore, but how much of that is just basic configuration (themes, actions) vs screen\widget layout may vary.
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Ok. Thanks.

If you're looking to back up your apps +their data, then titanium backup is your answer. If you search "top root Apps for Android" in Google, you will undoubtedly see it in the top of every list, and there's good reason for that. It's extremely reliable and works well. If you have a rooted phone and don't mind shelling out 6 dollars for all the features, then go for it. Some other features that the app gives you are: freezing apps, un installing apps including system apps, backing your backups to a cloud, backing up your sms/mms/call logs/Internet bookmarks/wifi aps, extracting from nandroid backup, destroying market links/re-linking, converting apps to system apps and more.
If you want to backup everything (apps, data, your rom and kernal etc), then you use nandroid backup, which is free but requires you to flash cwm recovery.

Titanium backup will backup home screen , folder, short cut except widgets ( I think no SW backup widgets and it just matter of few seconds)
Here is detail guide how to use titanium
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837984