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Titanium backup + 2.2 Leak = FAIL

I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.

not a good idea to restore data if you were coming from any 2.1 rom

Stockmoose16 said:
I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!

Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
You never want to restore system files from one version of a rom to another, it can only create problems.
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This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.

ncwildcat said:
Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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Same here, worked like a champ.

najaboy said:
OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.
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+ he posted in the wrong section, yet another FAIL

better to restore one by one, apps should restore fine, but accounts and such that are os specific surely wont work

askwhy said:
There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!
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If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.

Stockmoose16 said:
If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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Whatever floats your boat. Personally I wouldn't trust the integrity of the system after doing what you did, and would want to *know* that everything was proper before calling it a day.

Stockmoose16 said:
If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.

criDikal said:
For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.
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I used SMS backup and restore, but for 2nd time since I've had it, I didn't realize the scheduled backups just stopped occurring for no reason. So I lost my SMSes from the past couple weeks. Must be a bug in the program.

use launcherpro home app. it has an option to backup and restore all your icons and homescreen settings (minus widgets due to system limitations)
anytime im wiping and installing, i do a couple things
1. backup apps thru titanium then verify backed up apps
2. backup homescreen and settings thru launcher pro
3. drocap2 all my home screens so i can resetup my widgets
4. nandroid
all 4 items happen everytime, I have little worry about ever losing my settings.

askwhy said:
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
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I use google voice and it saves all my texts when I login.

Stockmoose16 said:
I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.

JTCGiants56 said:
Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.
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I did use Nandroid, but I want to move to 2.2. Is there any way to move to 2.2 without losing the system data? If the answer is "no," I don't understand. What happens when HTC releases the official version, do they expect people to delete all their apps, homescreens, etc every time an update is released?

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Ask your questions in correct thread. If a new thread must be started, and a question is asked, use the General section. Thanks

i used titanium backup for apps+system settings going from skyraider 1.9 to 2.0 and i ran into very small problems like getting my wallpaper to load and being able to restore my adw settings. As far as i can see so far no big deal

i used mybackup pro to back up apps+data then my home screens, sms, dictionary and a few other things. pretty much had my phone exactly the way it was when i had it running 2.1

he's not totally alone
Some slack should be cut for the OP as he's not alone in the widget issue. I have used TB for ages now perfectly ok to swap apps and info from my 2 x10's. But this last time I have ended up with a home screen that has "missing" widgets. The screen space is allocated so I can't replace them but the widget doesn't show or work. I have put this down to the 2 phones not have.g the same home screen layout, but is bloody annoying as now I can't reclaim this space!!

[Q] NooB help: Best way to try a new ROM and minimize setup?

I'm new to the rooting, rom'ing, etc and was wondering what the best way is to try a new ROM and minimize setup of all my apps(and their settings) again on the new ROM??
I tried the Warm Z 2.2 ad reloaded my installed apps with Astro but I had to redo all the settings for the apps and where they were on the screens. is thre any way to avoid this and make switching ROM's fast and easy?
THANKS !!
-Chuck

You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.

byrong said:
You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.
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Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
Thanks !!

KB3MMX said:
Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
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You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
KB3MMX said:
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
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Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.

byrong said:
You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.
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Awesome! That help me alot, thanks !!

Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required

0soPolar said:
Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required
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Great idea, thanks !!

The big "how do you restore your apps and settings after flashing a ROM" thread?

The big "how do you restore your apps and settings after flashing a ROM" thread?
Hi all,
Just rooted my phone a couple of days ago and been playing around with some ROMS.
Now I've found one to my liking so I am installing configuring everything again but what if there's a new version of my ROM I want to install, I have to do everything all over again which is a bit silly in this modern time
As I see it
- you have apps installed from market
- you have manually installed apps (e.g. modded widgets, applications and stuff)
I currently use Astro to backup the apps, this works well but
- the market doesn't recognize the apps (to do with market cache I suppose)
workaround: you can use the atrackdog app to follow application updates
- it doesn't restore app settings
some of my apps have backup mechanisms of their own but not all
I've flashed a GB rom now and I've selected the google backup option, is this reliable? What does it exactly backup?
Any other tools available? I heard about titanium back but also read stories where it doesn't always work.
Anyhoew: what do you use? what works for you?
Would be great if we could consolidate everything here and figure out the best/easiest way.
Cheers
B

Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done

EddyOS said:
Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done
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Do the apps show up in the market again?
Cheers
B

Titanium backup - backups apps dta/settings fo apps. and basically everythig (settings,sms etc.).

berre said:
Do the apps show up in the market again?
Cheers
B
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Yes, they do.

ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B

Don't know, just used it to backup my Angry Birds saves as the rest I do from scratch anyway

berre said:
ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B
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Almost everything will be restored. Free version will prompt for each app
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!

Be careful backing up system settings though as they often don't restore very well on different ROMs, i broke my first flash on Cyanogen by restoring bluetooth settings from a Sense ROM.

I use My backup Pro app for this
And I can backup and restore everything but the widgets

Open Titanium, click Backup/restore, hold down the menu key then go to batch, then backup all user apps. Don't back up system settings, as this will conflict with the new OS and cause instabilities. Android should auto backup Wi-Fi and calendars online for you, mine does, but it's Gingerbread 2.3.3 I'm not sure if this feature was around in the Froyo days.
Everything will be restored as it was, except widgets on the homescreen, you'll need to remove them and put them back on, all settings for them will save so you don't have to mess about customizing things.
You've probably worked it out by now, but just in case this is my 2 cents.

I'm using Titanium Backup for the Apps.
For the Messages I've got MyBackup and MIUI Backup but I prefer MyBackup because I've got different Roms.
But I never restore the System Settings.

I just don't factory reset, format, wipe or however you call it when I flash a rom, I lose the texts though.

how do you change you rom but keep your layout?

Is there a way that when you change your rom, you keep your apps (using titanium backup) but it keeps your layout (how you organised your widgets/folders/apps on your home page) ?
Also how do i get my market to sync with my apps so that it checks for updates?

Yes, but you'll need to re-add the widgets.

nejc121 said:
Yes, but you'll need to re-add the widgets.
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Does not answer my question... lol

The stuff stays on the homescreens if you backup data along with the app in TB.

nejc121 said:
The stuff stays on the homescreens if you backup data along with the app in TB.
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So if i changed from wildpuzzke rom to jokerdroid for instance, ti would restire my home screen or the majority of it since i have to re add widgets ?
Thanks

I don't know if it works with HTC sence, but I'm 100% it works with Launcher PRO

nejc121 said:
I don't know if it works with HTC sence, but I'm 100% it works with Launcher PRO
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I doubt it as LP probably has something similar to an xml file with all the locations for the apps and widgets.

Titanium Backup not needed AFAIK.
Launcher Pro and some other launchers will have the option to backup home screen + other settings to memory card. That backup should include layout of widgets afaik. But u need all the previous widgets installed before restoring. Although u can also backup LPP and its settings with titanium backup.
EDIT : And is there "homescreens" stuff to backup on titanium backup. All i found is only "homescreen tips" (on CM7) which are not homescreens actually. Im using free version and don't know about pro version.

Current Preferred Backup/Restore Method when Wiping the Device?

It's been awhile since I've dabbled with messing with my phone much (on the 2XL, had a 6P before that and unlocked it but that was it). I am thinking it might be time to wipe the device and start fresh, but wondering what the "best" method for backing up and then restoring is for the wipe. I was never great with making the proper backup to restore from so usually ended up re-adding stuff manually and setting everything up again - would love to avoid that. Is the android/google drive backup and restore option sufficient? Is there a better method out there? I don't have a ton of customizations on this phone this time around but avoiding the hassle would be sweet. All photos are backed up to drive, and I can turn on to backups a few other folders as well. Otherwise its just passwords, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, home screen setup, app settings, etc, etc that I hope to maintain.
Also, this phone is NOT unlocked yet but I will probably do that when I wipe it.

I've never used the native backup and restore method, so I can't really comment on that.
- I use Titanium Backup for all my apps
- I create a Nova backup for my launcher (Nova Launcher)
- I transfer my internal storage to my computer (music, photos, videos and so on)
- once I wipe, I restore all that and the only thing I need to setup from scratch is basically everything in system settings, which I've gotten pretty quick at doing now that I've done it several times.
Unfortunately, Titanium Backup requires root, something I guess you can't achieve without unlocking your bootloader first (which requires a wipe).
I guess the best thing would be to try the native backup and restore option or wait for someone else to provide you with better non-root alternatives.

Norcalz71 said:
It's been awhile since I've dabbled with messing with my phone much (on the 2XL, had a 6P before that and unlocked it but that was it). I am thinking it might be time to wipe the device and start fresh, but wondering what the "best" method for backing up and then restoring is for the wipe. I was never great with making the proper backup to restore from so usually ended up re-adding stuff manually and setting everything up again - would love to avoid that. Is the android/google drive backup and restore option sufficient? Is there a better method out there? I don't have a ton of customizations on this phone this time around but avoiding the hassle would be sweet. All photos are backed up to drive, and I can turn on to backups a few other folders as well. Otherwise its just passwords, wifi networks, bluetooth devices, home screen setup, app settings, etc, etc that I hope to maintain. Also, this phone is NOT unlocked yet but I will probably do that when I wipe it.
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Google Backup has improved vastly over the past year or two, so make sure you have it switched on and actively working (including Photos). It's great. I use TiBu also but I don't use it for any System/GApps- usually only "non-market" and root apps so if you don't have those, you don't necessarily need it, but if you do store it OFFLINE. If you use a 3rd party launcher (eg. Nova), backup your "shortcuts" and settings beforehand OFFLINE. Here's one suggestion:
Disclaimer: Before you start, make sure you have the very latest fastboot/adb binaries installed (August 2018). A standalone version is available you just dump into one folder and verify it is working.
Unlock your bootloader (twice) using sticky guides (Nathan). It's important to do the unlock_critical at the same time. You will be starting from a blank slate. Flash the latest full factory image from Google using the provided script (See the Guide). Once you log back into your account, let Google Backup do it's thing fully and completely. Once finished, run TiBu (OPTIONAL) and restore "missing apps" ONLY which are any apps remaining not already installed by Google Backup. Restore your launcher backup, and you are done. I did this last weekend and from a blank slate it took me about one hour to get back everything the way I had it (not a gamer). If you have no non-market / root apps you can skip TiBu be back up and running even quicker. Google Backups is your friend. In closing, don't under-estimate the value of using a 3rd party launcher and it's built-in backup file. Which ever launcher you choose will really pay dividends when you finish restoring from Google Backup. Your desktop icons, widgets, and all pages will be restored just like you had them before. Best of luck.

Appreciate the response, thanks. Is the desktop/home screen config only able to be backed up and restored with the 3rd party launcher? Haven't touched a different non-stock launcher since I think Nova on my Samsung S4, but sounds like there could still be a benefit there?
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Google Backup has improved vastly over the past year or two, so make sure you have it switched on and actively working (including Photos). It's great. I use TiBu also but I don't use it for any System/GApps- usually only "non-market" and root apps so if you don't have those, you don't necessarily need it, but if you do store it OFFLINE. If you use a 3rd party launcher (eg. Nova), backup your "shortcuts" and settings beforehand OFFLINE. Here's one suggestion:
Disclaimer: Before you start, make sure you have the very latest fastboot/adb binaries installed (August 2018). A standalone version is available you just dump into one folder and verify it is working.
Unlock your bootloader (twice) using sticky guides (Nathan). It's important to do the unlock_critical at the same time. You will be starting from a blank slate. Flash the latest full factory image from Google using the provided script (See the Guide). Once you log back into your account, let Google Backup do it's thing fully and completely. Once finished, run TiBu (OPTIONAL) and restore "missing apps" ONLY which are any apps remaining not already installed by Google Backup. Restore your launcher backup, and you are done. I did this last weekend and from a blank slate it took me about one hour to get back everything the way I had it (not a gamer). If you have no non-market / root apps you can skip TiBu be back up and running even quicker. Google Backups is your friend. In closing, don't under-estimate the value of using a 3rd party launcher and it's built-in backup file. Which ever launcher you choose will really pay dividends when you finish restoring from Google Backup. Your desktop icons, widgets, and all pages will be restored just like you had them before. Best of luck.
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Norcalz71 said:
Appreciate the response, thanks. Is the desktop/home screen config only able to be backed up and restored with the 3rd party launcher? Haven't touched a different non-stock launcher since I think Nova on my Samsung S4, but sounds like there could still be a benefit there?
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If you are asking how complete the stock Pixel launcher backup is (or if it even offers a backup), I cannot answer. I have always used Nova on all my devices and can only speak to the backup/restore capabilities of it. I don't want to get up on a soap box here, but Nova is worth every penny. Once you restore all your apps, run the launcher backup/restore and you are DONE. Everything is back. Once, I lost my tablet launcher backup and used my Nova phone backup and it restored perfectly to my tablet. I would venture to say that if the launcher is not backed up, THAT is where all the time is in recovering an existing setup. Creating pages of shortcuts and widgets is a pain and that is even if you kept screenshots of them. I also know Nova will "import" your Google launcher settings, so you can easily switch over to Nova before your wipe and then backup your settings. Give it a whirl.

I always used Titanium Backup and still do as a backup but Swift Backup has become my main app for flashing and restoring between ROMs etc. Nicer interface and I don't have to pick and choose between stuff I want to restore as much compared to batch restore missing apps on Titanium.

Titanium Pro and TWRP nandroid...