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I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
not a good idea to restore data if you were coming from any 2.1 rom
Stockmoose16 said:
I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!
Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
You never want to restore system files from one version of a rom to another, it can only create problems.
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This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.
ncwildcat said:
Worked great for me...but I only do apps and make sure to unchecked what I don't want
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Same here, worked like a champ.
najaboy said:
OP = FAIL
You asked about it in the other thread and it was explicitly stated...
This is a problem that you inflicted upon yourself after being warned that it was a bad idea.
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+ he posted in the wrong section, yet another FAIL
better to restore one by one, apps should restore fine, but accounts and such that are os specific surely wont work
askwhy said:
There is nothing wrong with Titanium, unless you want to argue that it should be programmed with even more features than it already has to prevent you from being able to do what you did. You restored settings and configurations that were from a different system version, and things didn't work right -- no surprise there.
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
Good luck!
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If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
Stockmoose16 said:
If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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Whatever floats your boat. Personally I wouldn't trust the integrity of the system after doing what you did, and would want to *know* that everything was proper before calling it a day.
Stockmoose16 said:
If I've already lost the data/setup settings, why would I Wipe, re-flash, and set up everything from scratch. It's not like 2.2 is crashing after I did the Titanium restore, I'm just missing my SMSes and my home screen arrangement.
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For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.
criDikal said:
For future reference, 'SMS Backup & Restore' is a much better option for backing up your SMS messages. Never rely on Titanium Backup for SMS backups.
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I used SMS backup and restore, but for 2nd time since I've had it, I didn't realize the scheduled backups just stopped occurring for no reason. So I lost my SMSes from the past couple weeks. Must be a bug in the program.
use launcherpro home app. it has an option to backup and restore all your icons and homescreen settings (minus widgets due to system limitations)
anytime im wiping and installing, i do a couple things
1. backup apps thru titanium then verify backed up apps
2. backup homescreen and settings thru launcher pro
3. drocap2 all my home screens so i can resetup my widgets
4. nandroid
all 4 items happen everytime, I have little worry about ever losing my settings.
askwhy said:
I don't know what you can do about your SMS backups (I have never saved any), but as for the rest you probably need to bite the bullet. Wipe, re-flash the ROM, then set everything up again from scratch and if you are going restore old stuff with TI, stick to apps this time.
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I use google voice and it saves all my texts when I login.
Stockmoose16 said:
I just updated to the leaked Froyo Rom. Before doing so, I backed up using Titanium. Then, once the Rom was installed, I did a restore of "all applications and system settings." But for some reason, all my homescreen settings did not return. For example, on one Homescreen, I had the Touchdown Calendar widget, which has now been replaced by the HTC mail widget.
What happened to my homescreens and all the widgets I had arranged on them? Argh, this is exactly what I didn't want to happen!!!!!
Edit: And it didn't restore any of my SMS messages either!!!! Where is everything?
Edit #2: Also, all of my Stock data, Facebook setup, Twitter setup is all empty. I thought this was all supposed to restore with Titanium. I used "backup all apps and system data" before moving to this ROM.
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Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.
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Did you do a nandroid backup like you should do before every single wipe of your phone? No?
Well if you did then you would be able to go into ClockworkMod Recovery -> nandroid -> advanced recovery -> restore data. When you reboot the phone EVERYTHING will be exactly just like you left it on your previous 2.1 installation. I have done this and have not had one single problem. Not one single thing is in a different place then it was when I was using 2.1. All my text messages, call logs, home screen widgets, ect. are there.
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I did use Nandroid, but I want to move to 2.2. Is there any way to move to 2.2 without losing the system data? If the answer is "no," I don't understand. What happens when HTC releases the official version, do they expect people to delete all their apps, homescreens, etc every time an update is released?
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i used titanium backup for apps+system settings going from skyraider 1.9 to 2.0 and i ran into very small problems like getting my wallpaper to load and being able to restore my adw settings. As far as i can see so far no big deal
i used mybackup pro to back up apps+data then my home screens, sms, dictionary and a few other things. pretty much had my phone exactly the way it was when i had it running 2.1
he's not totally alone
Some slack should be cut for the OP as he's not alone in the widget issue. I have used TB for ages now perfectly ok to swap apps and info from my 2 x10's. But this last time I have ended up with a home screen that has "missing" widgets. The screen space is allocated so I can't replace them but the widget doesn't show or work. I have put this down to the 2 phones not have.g the same home screen layout, but is bloody annoying as now I can't reclaim this space!!
I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.
PAPutzback said:
I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.
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no - but if you use launcherpro you can save your home setup
fachadick said:
no - but if you use launcherpro you can save your home setup
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When it TB says system data is that like low level stuff that might conflict with code in a new rom. Or when I install a new ROM should I restore missing apps+ all system data to get back up to where I was before.
So If I do a Titanium backup of just Apps and assuming I have launcher pro and did a backup. When I install the new ROM will restore my apps would I then go into launcher pro and do a restore there and everything is like it was before - the internal code changes the new ROM puts in place?
PAPutzback said:
When it TB says system data is that like low level stuff that might conflict with code in a new rom. Or when I install a new ROM should I restore missing apps+ all system data to get back up to where I was before.
So If I do a Titanium backup of just Apps and assuming I have launcher pro and did a backup. When I install the new ROM will restore my apps would I then go into launcher pro and do a restore there and everything is like it was before - the internal code changes the new ROM puts in place?
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Well not exactly, Widgets currently are broken. if you back up with launcherpro it will save your homepages/settings of launcher pro however all the widgets will be broken and need to be removed and re placed. If you back up your apps and app data you can then restore the app+ app data and your apps should function as normal but low level system stuff wont. (contacts can be re synced through Google)
over all i have not had many problems using titanium back up with system info restore on like roms (ie 2.2 to 2.2, or 2.1 to 2.1) I have had a few issues that i have worked out going form 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versus or switching from sense to aosp roms.
I am sure there is the potential for problems restoring system data but for me it has been few and far between unless switching to different rom styles as indicated above with different os version or if going between sense and aosp.
my recommendation back up everything with titanium back up, back up through launcher pro. wipe/flash new rom restore all system+app+data. if you have issues you can always re-flash and not flash the system data. if you dont then you are good to go and you only have to replace your widgets.
PAPutzback said:
I am on DamageControl right now and I want to try the VirusRom.
I already searched the forums. For some reason search never takes me to a post just a thread. Telling me the words Titanium Backup are in a 600+ page thread does not help.
I know I can restore App with the batch function but I am not sure what setting or app I need to backup to restore the icons and the location of those Icons back to the homepages.
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In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored. If you are flashing from a sense rom to a sense rom (with same software version, i.e. 2.1 or 2.2), there shouldn't be a problem restoring the Desktop settings. Like was mentioned earlier, widgets usually won't load correctly so you just delete them and reapply them.
nukedukem said:
In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored.
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Where's this located? I'm not seeing it in my version, and didn't even know it was supposed to be there (you learn something new every day). Could this be because I have the free version as opposed to the paid version?
if you go to the backed up files you will find it. it isnt a batch command. it is basically the tb file it saves the desktop settings to. when yuo look at all the files and settings yuo have backed up look for desktop and it should have a tb icon and yes it is green click it hit restore.
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if you go to the backed up files you will find it. it isnt a batch command. it is basically the tb file it saves the desktop settings to. when yuo look at all the files and settings yuo have backed up look for desktop and it should have a tb icon and yes it is green click it hit restore.
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weird - don't seem to have any listing that says "desktop". Although I've only played around with TB a little, so maybe I didn't to the kind of backup that would have backed it up? I've always just restored apps from market one-by-one - and the only settings I save are things like call logs (I'm ocd like that). I think I did one "real" backup with TB ages ago, now I just use it to make sure that busybox is set up right.
Yeah I don't see a backup or anything called "Desktop". Can you point me to exactly where it is? I'm using the dontate version. What I do is restore all apps+data+system data and that seems to restore my homescreens. I usally have to do a reboot after the restore to get everything working and my widgets usally come back as well.
You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00
nukedukem said:
You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00
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Holy cow, you're right! Never noticed it before.
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
nukedukem said:
You have to keep scrolling down, it's not under 'D' it's under 'H'. This is exactly what mine is labed as: [Desktop] HTC Sense 1.00
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Found it... good looking out.
ATownI20 said:
Found it... good looking out.
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What if the ROM has not a Sense interface?
For exampe I am using MIUI and updating the ROM every month.
By using TB and restoring ALL I can have my icons, widgets & layout back, nonetheless I am afraid that by restoring ALL (apps + systems data) I am writing over the new system improvements and somehow getting back to the "old" system.
Any advice on that?
For non-Sense (lol nonsense), uhh anyway, for non-sense Roms just find the home setup you are using and restore the Data...
For example I have touchwiz, so I go to restore touchwiz and do data only, and voila! desktop back to normal without all that annoying redo work
Thanks for the help guys
I tried looking under "H" and "D" but didn't fine it. So I read the entire thread again and I looked under "T" for Touchwiz (I'm using Echoe TW Rom presently) and there is was. After restoring it I have to add my BBC widget again, though. But that's minor. Thanks again guys!!!
nukedukem said:
In TB there is a backup called Desktop, i think it should be green. That is where your home page settings are stored. If you are flashing from a sense rom to a sense rom (with same software version, i.e. 2.1 or 2.2), there shouldn't be a problem restoring the Desktop settings. Like was mentioned earlier, widgets usually won't load correctly so you just delete them and reapply them.
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There is binary backup for widgets search widget in TiBUp.
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Didn't work on CM13.
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I don't remember the last time I was able to do just that with titanium backup.
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I've done a few searches on the forum and several on Google, but I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. I've been running a custom kernel with stock 2.2 for a while now, and the only thing keeping me from flashing another ROM (maybe deodexed stock 2.2? Not sure yet) is all the stuff I have on my phone right now. I guess it's not a lot compared to some of you guys. Around thirty or so apps and widgets from the market, along with all their settings, and all my contacts.
If I nandroid before wiping and flashing, how do I recover just my apps, settings, and contacts? Is that a good idea, or should I go with something like Titanium? Before I back up all that stuff, should I move my apps from my SD card to my phone? Sorry if you guys answer questions like this every day, but I can't find **** with the forum search.
tl;dr - Wanna know how to restore apps/settings after flashing new ROM.
Titanium is the way to go for that. It backs up all your apps, contacts, messages and settings. I never move my apps back to my phone from the SD before a backup and I haven't had any problems.
Ballin. Thanks for the suggestion. So I just go to "Backup all user apps + system data", wipe, flash, reinstall Titanium (?), and run the restore?
Sorta. I run two separate backups, one for user apps and one for system data. I only backup certain things in the system data list so doing the separate backups makes it easier for me to choose what I am and am not backing up. Only gotta do one restore though, and then a reboot.
Alright, cool. I'll give all this a shot. Appreciate the help, bro.
No prob, happy to help.
I'm new to the rooting, rom'ing, etc and was wondering what the best way is to try a new ROM and minimize setup of all my apps(and their settings) again on the new ROM??
I tried the Warm Z 2.2 ad reloaded my installed apps with Astro but I had to redo all the settings for the apps and where they were on the screens. is thre any way to avoid this and make switching ROM's fast and easy?
THANKS !!
-Chuck
You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.
byrong said:
You can use apps like Titanium Backup to backup not only the apps themselves, but their settings. That said, it's generally not a good idea to restore data (i.e. settings) between ROMs. You can introduce some buggy behavior by doing so.
As for backing up your home screens, that is trickier. Widgets? Forget about it. Shortcuts: maybe. Some programs like MyBackup Pro can backup home screens. Some launchers (like LauncherPro) have their own backup features built in for homescreen shortcuts. But even these methods of backing up will be unlikely to restore widgets unless the framework between the ROMs is almost identical.
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Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
Thanks !!
KB3MMX said:
Ok, so I shouldn't restore my apps w/ settings if I load a different ROM, only the downloaded apps..and then set them all up again?
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You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
KB3MMX said:
Would I be OK to continue with Astro or is Titanium any better for this purpose, I have both now... Or should I dump Astro and just use Titanium Pro?
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Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.
byrong said:
You can always take a gamble if you want, but yes: only restoring the apps themselves is the safest bet.
If you want to think of it as a spectrum...
Safest > Download apps again from market
Still very safe > Restore apps from Titanium (or Astro, or whatever), but don't restore data
Moderately risky > Restore apps with their data, but don't restore system settings
Very risky > Restore all apps, all data, all system settings
Been a very long time since I used Astro, so I don't know what the functionality is like. That said, backing up apps is not a hard task, so if Astro is working, I'd say there's no harm in continuing to use it.
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Awesome! That help me alot, thanks !!
Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required
0soPolar said:
Not that I have discovered for initial set up of a new rom, but if you make a backup of that rom when switching between ones you have already set up, switching between backups is quick and easy, no additional set up required
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Great idea, thanks !!
The big "how do you restore your apps and settings after flashing a ROM" thread?
Hi all,
Just rooted my phone a couple of days ago and been playing around with some ROMS.
Now I've found one to my liking so I am installing configuring everything again but what if there's a new version of my ROM I want to install, I have to do everything all over again which is a bit silly in this modern time
As I see it
- you have apps installed from market
- you have manually installed apps (e.g. modded widgets, applications and stuff)
I currently use Astro to backup the apps, this works well but
- the market doesn't recognize the apps (to do with market cache I suppose)
workaround: you can use the atrackdog app to follow application updates
- it doesn't restore app settings
some of my apps have backup mechanisms of their own but not all
I've flashed a GB rom now and I've selected the google backup option, is this reliable? What does it exactly backup?
Any other tools available? I heard about titanium back but also read stories where it doesn't always work.
Anyhoew: what do you use? what works for you?
Would be great if we could consolidate everything here and figure out the best/easiest way.
Cheers
B
Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done
EddyOS said:
Titanium Backup - restores apps and data
Job done
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Do the apps show up in the market again?
Cheers
B
Titanium backup - backups apps dta/settings fo apps. and basically everythig (settings,sms etc.).
berre said:
Do the apps show up in the market again?
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B
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Yes, they do.
ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B
Don't know, just used it to backup my Angry Birds saves as the rest I do from scratch anyway
berre said:
ok great so how's the best way to use this?
I've downloaded the free version, and the busybox
I guess I have to use the filter for files of type "user" so I only see my apps?
which batch should I run then, backup all user data + system data?
*edit will this restore stuff like my launcher settings and design, email accounts in enhanced email and stuff like that too?
cheers
B
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Almost everything will be restored. Free version will prompt for each app
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!
Be careful backing up system settings though as they often don't restore very well on different ROMs, i broke my first flash on Cyanogen by restoring bluetooth settings from a Sense ROM.
I use My backup Pro app for this
And I can backup and restore everything but the widgets
Open Titanium, click Backup/restore, hold down the menu key then go to batch, then backup all user apps. Don't back up system settings, as this will conflict with the new OS and cause instabilities. Android should auto backup Wi-Fi and calendars online for you, mine does, but it's Gingerbread 2.3.3 I'm not sure if this feature was around in the Froyo days.
Everything will be restored as it was, except widgets on the homescreen, you'll need to remove them and put them back on, all settings for them will save so you don't have to mess about customizing things.
You've probably worked it out by now, but just in case this is my 2 cents.
I'm using Titanium Backup for the Apps.
For the Messages I've got MyBackup and MIUI Backup but I prefer MyBackup because I've got different Roms.
But I never restore the System Settings.
I just don't factory reset, format, wipe or however you call it when I flash a rom, I lose the texts though.