As you guys know Virtuous Unity will require the desire z eng hboot to work from now on and I just have a couple of quick questions
1. If I ever wanted to Unroot my G2 could I just follow the unrooting process as usual, or do I have to revert to the G2 ENG Hboot??
2. Does anyone have a PC10IMG.zip file, which contains the G2 Engineering HBOOT
.... I understand how to do the procedure... looks pretty easy, just like to know that there's a way back you know...
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you would have to revert to G2 hboot if unrooting.
There's download links for the hboot's in the wiki, as well as md5 sums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
-Nipqer
I'm am also thinking about going to the DZ hboot. Did you ever switch?
I switched a few weeks ago and haven't noticed any differences in performance or otherwise.
As I understand, the only difference is the partition table - I'm still using the Tmo radio.
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Hi guys,
I've been reading through the forums over the past two days but I have to admit it's hard to find what I am looking for now that the G2 forum and the DZ forum are merged, and the search isn't getting me anywhere for this one.
I have Bell Canada Desire Z permarooted and S-OFF'd, with CWMod. I did this before the newer gfree method and from what I can gather this can lead me to some kind of endless loop if I try to flash back to the a Bell RUU or other RUUs for that matter. It also worries me that I can't try new radios, etc.
I am getting very poor battery life compared to others so I want to have my phone replaced. I have an extended warranty from FutureShop so I probably don't even need to reset the phone to stock again (they swap on the spot) but I would like to anyway. It will also allow me to test the battery again with the stock ROM.
So, how do I go about flashing back to the Bell ROM and turning S-ON, and unrooting? Keeping in mind that I used the pre-gfree method. I believe it was Visionary R12 and gtab's guide.
Also as the title implies, I was wondering if it's possible to use the new (better) S-OFF even if I am already S-OFF'd the old way?
Any help is appreciated!
You can use gfree and achieve "real" S-OFF without having to unroot.
Just run it. Worst that'll happen is it fails if you happen to be on a kernel it doesn't like. If this happens, no harm is done, just a reboot.
Just run gfree from where you are, as the previous poster said.
That will put you in a much safer position, where you can get stuck in that boot loop that you can if you've only got the eng hboot.
Then you can flash whichever ROM you want. Then you can undo gfree if you want via its new options (see the Wiki).
Regarding your point about the merger, IMHO this issue isn't anything to do with the DZ specifically, and lots of users are posting about similar stuff with their G2s. It's all the same
Thanks guys,
I've done gfree (which is MUCH easier than the thread and wiki make it look - they need to simplify the text, it's overwhelming to look at given how simple the procedure is) and flashed the Bell RUU.
Now I am just about to root, and use gfree to undo the S-OFF I guess?
Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again!
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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I'd keep that backup file as it is a dump of your original partition 7 before gfree mods it. You can dd i back and put everything back to how it was, if you ever need to. Do you need to keep it on the phone? No.. store it somewhere on your PC.
With the old "fake" S-OFF you would get stuck if you flashed a stock rom because it would overwrite the engineering HBOOT which was the only thing making your phone think it had S-OFF. With gfree method, you have real S-OFF, so this should be fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484 for details.
tl;dr You should be fine.
Hm,little bit confused!
The backup I need to get original original partition 7
but not to get S-On.
To get S-On I can use the new gfree method,it`s now
possible with this!
I did the old UBERROOT method with real S-Off!
P.S.I read here about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Not 100% sure I understand the question...but:
You don't need that backup file. If you delete it nothing bad will happen. Paranoid people (like me) would copy it to a safe place, but there's no real need.
You can flash whatever roms you like, including stock ones, as long as you have real, radio (gfree) S-OFF.
Hi guys, thanks for the help! I got it all settled, it was easy.
As I mentioned above, I used gfree to do a true S-OFF, which was easy.
Then I ran Bell's RUU and it worked without any issues. I assume the RUU install also flashes the HTC recovery back to the phone, I didn't check but it must..
A little summary for anyone who needs help in the future..
If you rooted/S-OFF'd using a method older than the current rage/gfree method (the one in the wiki) then you need to redo the S-OFF using gfree.
Steps:
Use gfree -f to S-OFF again
Run the stock RUU file on your pc (you need HTC sync installed for this)
Temproot (first part of the wiki guide) the stock ROM
Use gfree -s on to S-ON your phone
Reboot, and everything should appear like stock (aside from still being sim-unlocked).
Were u sucessful in returning your phone to htc after u did the above?
I didn't have to return it to htc, just to future shop, and it was fine.
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I have done a search and found a few helpful tips but nothing straightforward. I know there isn't a RUU for it. Long story short. My boss downloaded the official 2.2 update, it broke his wifi. He asked me to root it to see if a custom rom would fix it. I did and installed CM7 but wifi still doesn't work. Now he wants me to unroot it so he can get a replacement because he thinks it is a hardware problem. Anyway, I am going to attempt to flash the official 2.2 update to his phone which I am assuming unroots it. But, the phone will still be s-off, does anyone know how to flash an s-on hboot? If the wifi works when i reflash the 2.2 update I won't need to worry about the hboot but I hope there is a way. Thanks
Well looks like a found the 2.2 RUU. Will this unroot aswell as flash the stock hboot?
Yes, if you run a RUU, it will return everything to stock. But if you installed the CM7 with the newer partition layout (Bravo CM7 r2), then you should downgrade it first, and then run the RUU.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 Watch this video here, it shows the process.
Pipusz said:
Yes, if you run a RUU, it will return everything to stock. But if you installed the CM7 with the newer partition layout (Bravo CM7 r2), then you should downgrade it first, and then run the RUU.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084 Watch this video here, it shows the process.
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Downgrade the ROM?
No, downgrade the hboot. Enter into bootloader and check your hboot type: if it's CM7 r2 or Oxygen r2, then you need to downgrade them first before running a RUU. You can use the Bravo Downgrader on the Alpharev site.
Thank you for your help. One more question tough, on Alpharev's, it says that the Desire downgrader is for the GSM models but it makes no mention of the CDMA models, do yo know if it will still work?
Hm.. Now that's a very good question.. I don't have answer for that, sorry.
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
please need some quick advice before i root
evilcuber said:
Hello i have been using the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD and was wondering, on step 4 if i should install engineering hboot or just regularly root? i have an htc desire z running 1.34.405.5 wwe rom
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Installing eng hboot is not needed if you want to root but it is a good idea to have because
it will let you use fastboot commands ,lets say for any reason your recovery fail,you will
have the option to recover your phone through fastboot ,also you will need it if you want
to try different radios. However, if you want to install eng hboot ,you must be very carefull
when doing so otherwise you could brick your phone. make sure you follow every step and make sure that you are installing the the right one .(g2 and desire z have specific hboots).
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
evilcuber said:
wait, is it more likely that you will brick your phone if you use engineering hboot? also one last question. i just want to root my phone to install the virtuous unity rom onto my phone and use a fast kernal to allow me to overclock only to 1.3ghz. i dont be doing much else modding on my phone. should i still install hboot eveim if im doing very little?
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since you live in canada i assume you have a desire z not a g2 so you do not have to change your hboot for unity ,i didnt say you are more likely to brick your phone if you install eng hboot ,i said it is a good idea to install eng hboot so if for any reason your recovery fails you will have
an option to use fastboot and fix your phone, and then i said be very carefull when installing hboot and make sure you install the right hboot because g2 and desire z partition sizes are different so make sure if you have a desire z you are installing the one for desire z not the one that is for the g2. and make sure you type in the commands exactly like it said in the wiki .
(also seems like the wiki has changed since i was doing this, because i remember installing eng hboot was marked
as optional in the wiki before but now everything is different so you might actually need the eng boot now, i am not %100 sure i would wait for someone else to confirm what i said.)
Thanks for your help, i successfully rooted my htc desire z
@evilcuber May I use your thread to ask an additional question regarding hboot ?
I rooted my French DZ some times ago, I followed a tutorial from cyanogenmod wiki, most probably this one (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_Z:_Rooting) but I do not remember flashing an engineering hboot.
As I would like to install Unity, I have to check my phone runs the right hboot. Here is the information I have :
Thanks for your help !
I think that as long as you have a DZ and not a G2, your hboot should be fine
Hopefully this hasn't been covered. I wasn't able to find anything after half a day of searching.
My questions is regarding setting up DZ hboot on a G2. From what I've read this is necessary on some (seems like most) ROMs due to the size limitation of /system (particularly Sense ROMs).
Is there any reason necessarily to stay at a G2 hboot if I can deal with /data size restrictions. I'd like to switch over to a few other ROMs that require it, however, I wouldn't necessarily want to keep switching back and forth if I don't have to. A few particular scenarios come to mind.
1) I create a backup of my current CM7 backup and would like to go back to it after running a sense based ROM that require DZ hboot. Am I required to restore the G2 hboot before restoring?
2) If I didn't want to remove the DZ hboot, can I just do a clean CM7 install over it?
3) Is there anything in particular that requires the DZ hboot? Does this only change the hboot? I thought I had seen somewhere that it changes radio and radio needs to be reflashed to G2 (I'm new to radio flashing and haven't read up enough on it yet).
I guess I am just trying to understand the dependencies of ROMs and hboot. Any thoughts or references would be most welcome. Thanks.
If you flash the DZ hboot you will be able to restore any nandroid backups you made before changing hboot's. All roms will work on the DZ hboot cm, sense, miui and aosp.
You will only ever need to change hboot's if you need to go back to stock for warranty purposes.
If you follow the guide on www.virtuousrom.com to change hboot's it will change your radio, but if you successfully mange to flash the hboot you will pretty much know the procedure for flashing radios.
Do Androids dream of electric sheep?
Thanks CJ. That gives me answers to most my questions, time for a little more reading.
Quick question however, is the zip method for flashing radios preferred, or fastboot and setup the img? Especially after switching the hboot as the proccess sounds the same.
Or is the process of naming PC10 etc zip files the way of tricking the bootloader into using those files?
biohazrd51 said:
Thanks CJ. That gives me answers to most my questions, time for a little more reading.
Quick question however, is the zip method for flashing radios preferred, or fastboot and setup the img? Especially after switching the hboot as the proccess sounds the same.
Or is the process of naming PC10 etc zip files the way of tricking the bootloader into using those files?
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Sorry for the late reply, had a busy few days. Either method is good but check the md5sum before flashing radios.
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So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
ch3mn3y said:
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
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EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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