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I don't live in one of these states but I have read about the machine they use in mich and it says it can pull data off iphones android etc. Is there anyway to block this thing just curious what exactly its doing sounds like its "hacking" our phones isn't that illegal too?
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=21443
quik99 said:
I don't live in one of these states but I have read about the machine they use in mich and it says it can pull data off iphones android etc. Is there anyway to block this thing just curious what exactly its doing sounds like its "hacking" our phones isn't that illegal too?
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=21443
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Yeah, get a cheap phone that is not a smartphone. All of our data is already available to Google and Sprint.
Do you BONSAI?
Interesting read, thanks
@kenny
what kinda data do they read besides our texts and phone numbers??
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Yeah, get a cheap phone that is not a smartphone. All of our data is already available to Google and Sprint.
Do you BONSAI?
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nope is there something in it that would help? Currently using ACS which has carrier IQ removed..and neither google or sprint have the entire contents of my SD card pictures I have taken etc
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Interesting read, thanks
@kenny
what kinda data do they read besides our texts and phone numbers??
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Everything pictures call logs gps data. The device in mich says it pulls about everything and works on 95% of phones and they are using it for normal traffic stops
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nope is there something in it that would help? Currently using ACS which has carrier IQ removed..and neither google or sprint have the entire contents of my SD card pictures I have taken etc
Everything pictures logs gps data
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Well im on bonsai and no carrior iq as well so i think we will be good, plus i really dont think unless your dealing drugs via text and phone calls and get in trouble with the law they arent going to arrest you and check whats on your phone.....
Again I dont live there so its really not a bit deal was just kinda asking but they are pulling all of this data for traffic stops I do get those quite a bit on my bike the below is from the article
"Michigan State Police officers have been using a device called Cellebrite UFED Physical Pro for the last couple years. The device scrapes off everything stored on the phone -- GPS geotag data, media (pictures, videos, music, etc.), text messages, emails, call history, and more.
Michigan State Police have been reportedly regularly been scraping the phones of people they pull over."
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Well im on bonsai and no carrior iq as well so i think we will be good, plus i really dont think unless your dealing drugs via text and phone calls and get in trouble with the law they arent going to arrest you and check whats on your phone.....
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Interesting read, thanks
@kenny
what kinda data do they read besides our texts and phone numbers??
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Google keeps track of apps downloaded, usage, contacts, emails (gmail), texts, GPS data, and basically anytime you use your phone with the Android system. They are worse than big brother. If you so choose they can also use gps data tagging everytime you take a pic, better than satellite spying.
tthe epic is not supprrted by this device. if you go to the cellebrite website it lists what devices are. 99 percent of the phones ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE WIRELESSLY.
if you select a device it lists how it connects. i found the evo on the list and it says you have to manually hook it up with a usb cable. same thing with the galaxy tab and the continum. this thing doesnt scare me. im pretty confident in my ability to hard reset my phone before the cop gets to my window.
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products/ufed-standard-kit.html
device list.
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products/ufed-standard-kit/ufed-logical-supported-phones.html
What do you all have on your phone that you may be arrested for?
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What do you all have on your phone that you may be arrested for?
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Nothing, its the principle of it all...
Just another way for the government to take a dump on the bill of rights. I'd really like to know what BS loophole they hide behind to get around the 4th amendment. After they do away with the 4th they'll just work their way up the list. Next thing you know they'll be living in your house, taking your guns and not letting you speak out about the whole thing.
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tthe epic is not supprrted by this device. if you go to the cellebrite website it lists what devices are. 99 percent of the phones ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE WIRELESSLY.
if you select a device it lists how it connects. i found the evo on the list and it says you have to manually hook it up with a usb cable. same thing with the galaxy tab and the continum. this thing doesnt scare me. im pretty confident in my ability to hard reset my phone before the cop gets to my window.
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products/ufed-standard-kit.html
device list.
http://www.cellebrite.com/forensic-products/ufed-standard-kit/ufed-logical-supported-phones.html
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Well ya if you got something to hide but I dont think rushing to do a hard reset and also deleting all of yoru SD card data anytime you get pulled over sounds like a good idea/fun unless you are a drug lord lol
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What do you all have on your phone that you may be arrested for?
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nothing but I dont think a cop should get a copy of my girls titty picture she sent me because I went 5mph over.
[QUOTEnothing but I dont think a cop should get a copy of my girls titty picture she sent me because I went 5mph over. [/QUOTE]
HA! Nice...can we see? J/K
Good point. Apparently it needs to be placed next to the device. You can refuse to give it to them.
Agreed that it's not about having anything to hide, it is indeed the principle. Fourth amendment is supposed protect our privacy and the courts have processes in place for authorities to collect evidence. This device cracks open everything in your life and all information about you that comes across your phone. It might seem trivial, but does anyone else need to know about your shenanigans, deepest secrets revealed via text to your best friend(s), banking information, and anything else? Not ok IMO!
Agreed. They should NOT be allowed to look into your phone. EVER. Unless they HONESTL beleive it to be packed with drugs (which would probably take FOREVER), then no. I Will NOT hand it over. Thank god for clock work mod, and the 10 minutes they spend logging data. means you could pull battery, go in, wipe data, and have it done before they can do ANYTHING. No i have nothing to hide (privacy is not HIDING), but NO you may not read my, or my freinds texts of problems. Just not gonna happen.
Easy answer...write your congressman and lawmakers to make this illegal without warrant.
carry a ****ty prepaid phone with you and just give that to the cop. I would prob have one in my car for just that if I lived in mich. I mean for a speeding ticket they get my ****ty phone and I get a ticket. But obviously if i'm busted for something serious and get taken in they would get my phone. But the second senario is not really what i'm worried about.
The article was updated with a press release by the Michigan State Police. They only use the device with a warrant or consent.
The Supreme Court of the Ohio ruled in State v. Smith that mobile phones are now akin to laptop computers in that they can be seized but not searched until a warrant has been issued. With California (who would have thought they would be the one to rule that way) giving an opposite decision, this will probably end up in front of the Supreme Court of the United States for a decision before long.
For now, turn your phone off when the red and blue lights come on.
they can't crack the epic as of now, not even on list of cable supported phones.
so really doesn't even matter (for now) .
still kinda scary that they do this, and they're allowed to.
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they can't crack the epic as of now, not even on list of cable supported phones.
so really doesn't even matter (for now) .
still kinda scary that they do this, and they're allowed to.
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not true, it is supported via wire. This is pretty sketchy.
legalize it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope this is in the right section. Mods, please feel free to move if needed.
So I just got a Samsung Galaxy SIII on AT&T. It's my first upgrade in almost 3 years. I previously had an HTC Tilt Pro or whatever that ran on Windows Mobile (with AT&T as well). I resisted an upgrade because I love the slide out QWERTY keyboard and tilting screen. The phone is now on it's last leg. When I got that phone I planned on doing all kinds of upgrades to it, but it just got too complicated for me to do. I have only powered up the SIII phone and that is all. I haven't done anything else on it (not even typed my name in or set the time/date).
Please excuse my ignorance and please treat me like a little kid with jargon and instructions. Technical talk will just confuse me. Me searching and reading threads doesn't help. That just confuses me more. By you doing something like telling me to simply click on this link and do this instructions would be helpful. I copied all my pics, videos, audio files, etc into a folder on my laptop (Vista).
I don't care to do too much with my phone (compared to the likes of what I am sure a lot of you do = way beyond my skill). I just want it to operate smoothly and be the best, the fastest, least battery consuming, safe and reliable phone I can have.
How do I get Jellybean on my phone? Is it even available for the AT&T SIII yet? If not, what if I got ahead and get my phone up and running then it comes out later, would updating to it mess up all the work I've already done?
How do I use my audio files on my memory card as text/email notifications and ring tones? What formats do they have to be in? Will the phone play previous videos and in what formats do they have to be in?
I plan on upgrading my current old 1GB microsd card to this:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-MicroSDXC-Adapter-VERSION/dp/B007UXTSTE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1353995670&sr=8-2&keywords=SDSDQUA-064G-A11A
Is this the proper microsd card for this phone? I read on some sites that it doesn't come properly formatted? NTFS, exFAT, ext 3, etc. I just want the most advanced, fastest, easiest to use 64 or 32 GB card out there....
Do I need to worry about getting any type of virus protection or firewall program on it or anything to protect me against the "bad stuff" out there?
Where's the best place to get free apps?
What's the best case/holster? Otterbox I assume, but which model? Site reviews got me nowhere. Some say the Defender, but yet the built in screen protector hinders the screen clarity and also hampers the touch screen? If I get a lower grade Otterbox or other brand over the Defender, what are the best screen protectors to get? Is there a better protection case/holster combo out there and where to buy from?
Where's the most reputable and cheapest retailer to buy an extra wall charger and 2 car chargers that won't fry the battery?
I think that is all for now. Again, please excuse my ignorance and lack of skill to do something almost complex. I am sure this will be very elementary for many of you.
Aaaarrrrrrggghhhh!!!! Why is all this so complicated???? Please help me
Thanks a lot
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Whoa, okay, let's get to work here.
How do I get Jellybean on my phone? Is it even available for the AT&T SIII yet? If not, what if I got ahead and get my phone up and running then it comes out later, would updating to it mess up all the work I've already done?
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You can get it by flashing a ROM (custom software for your phone) which requires rooting (getting access to everything) your phone and installing a custom recovery. However, if "tech jargon" confuses you I would NOT reccoment you do this, especially considering it voids your warranty.
How do I use my audio files on my memory card as text/email notifications and ring tones? What formats do they have to be in? Will the phone play previous videos and in what formats do they have to be in?
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Plug it into your computer, go to "My Computer" and choose I747 or something along those lines. Choose "Internal Storage", and then (if these folders do not exist create them) media, audio, and then notifications or ringtones, depending on which one you want. These have to be in the mp3 format
Is this the proper microsd card for this phone? I read on some sites that it doesn't come properly formatted? NTFS, exFAT, ext 3, etc. I just want the most advanced, fastest, easiest to use 64 or 32 GB card out there....
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I don't know if 64 works, but I have this sd card, and it works great. Your phone will take care of the formatting
Do I need to worry about getting any type of virus protection or firewall program on it or anything to protect me against the "bad stuff" out there?
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Short answer:No.
Long answer: Just be careful what you download, always check the permissions that an app has, if an app has something you don't think it should need, (like Words with Friends needing access to your CALL LOG) don't install it.
Where's the best place to get free apps?
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Google Play
What's the best case/holster? Otterbox I assume, but which model? Site reviews got me nowhere. Some say the Defender, but yet the built in screen protector hinders the screen clarity and also hampers the touch screen? If I get a lower grade Otterbox or other brand over the Defender, what are the best screen protectors to get? Is there a better protection case/holster combo out there and where to buy from?
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I have an Otterbox Defender and it does not degrade usability of the touchscreen. However it does degrade the quality of the screen, not anything severe though. You would be fine getting a Commuter, if you just drop your case occasionally. I would personally always recommend an Otterbox, but that's just me.
Where's the most reputable and cheapest retailer to buy an extra wall charger and 2 car chargers that won't fry the battery?
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You should be fine with any old charger, just make sure its 5V and about 1 amp, maybe a bit less.
Have fun with your phone
Thanks for you reply.
1. Without me getting confused on rooting etc, is Jellybean going to be available for the AT&T SIII? Is it even worth it? From what I hear the answer is yes. Also my local ATT store rep told me that the new Note has Jellybean on it? And is it as easy to install as any other update? Will it change anything I've done on the phone to that point? I just want to get going on my phone (preferences, settings, etc) and then have to redo it all later because I put Jellybean on it.
2. No driver software is needed to be installed on my laptop prior to hooking up the phone via the USB? I have various types of files on my laptop from my old HTC that I used on that Windows OS: MP3, MPEG 4, some Adobe PDF files, some .jpg files, some .AVI files, some .wav files, some .amr files... I think that is all. So for audio that I want to keep, I have to convert all my files that are not MP3 into MP3? If so, that sucks. Any advice how to do that easiest/free?
3. Is your card a class 10? Supposedly a class 10 is the fastest best for this phone (for HD video)? I went to the San Disk site, and under their Ultra series for mobile phones with 64GB it lists this model number: SDSDQUA-064G-A11A. San Disk retails it for $184.99, lol. The I just searched Amazon for that model number, but reading the reviews of this one, has me worried on the formatting topic.
4. On the chargers and such, is this site reputable: http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-accessories.htm ?
Not going to use it until I get a case and get a bigger memory card.
Thanks again for your help!
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Whoa, okay, let's get to work here.
You can get it by flashing a ROM (custom software for your phone) which requires rooting (getting access to everything) your phone and installing a custom recovery. However, if "tech jargon" confuses you I would NOT reccoment you do this, especially considering it voids your warranty.
Plug it into your computer, go to "My Computer" and choose I747 or something along those lines. Choose "Internal Storage", and then (if these folders do not exist create them) media, audio, and then notifications or ringtones, depending on which one you want. These have to be in the mp3 format
I don't know if 64 works, but I have this sd card, and it works great. Your phone will take care of the formatting
Short answer:No.
Long answer: Just be careful what you download, always check the permissions that an app has, if an app has something you don't think it should need, (like Words with Friends needing access to your CALL LOG) don't install it.
Google Play
I have an Otterbox Defender and it does not degrade usability of the touchscreen. However it does degrade the quality of the screen, not anything severe though. You would be fine getting a Commuter, if you just drop your case occasionally. I would personally always recommend an Otterbox, but that's just me.
You should be fine with any old charger, just make sure its 5V and about 1 amp, maybe a bit less.
Have fun with your phone
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Thanks for you reply.
1. Without me getting confused on rooting etc, is Jellybean going to be available for the AT&T SIII? Is it even worth it? From what I hear the answer is yes. Also my local ATT store rep told me that the new Note has Jellybean on it? And is it as easy to install as any other update? Will it change anything I've done on the phone to that point? I just want to get going on my phone (preferences, settings, etc) and then have to redo it all later because I put Jellybean on it.
2. No driver software is needed to be installed on my laptop prior to hooking up the phone via the USB? I have various types of files on my laptop from my old HTC that I used on that Windows OS: MP3, MPEG 4, some Adobe PDF files, some .jpg files, some .AVI files, some .wav files, some .amr files... I think that is all. So for audio that I want to keep, I have to convert all my files that are not MP3 into MP3? If so, that sucks. Any advice how to do that easiest/free?
3. Is your card a class 10? Supposedly a class 10 is the fastest best for this phone (for HD video)? I went to the San Disk site, and under their Ultra series for mobile phones with 64GB it lists this model number: SDSDQUA-064G-A11A. San Disk retails it for $184.99, lol. The I just searched Amazon for that model number, but reading the reviews of this one, has me worried on the formatting topic.
4. On the chargers and such, is this site reputable: http://www.shopandroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-accessories.htm ?
Not going to use it until I get a case and get a bigger memory card.
Thanks again for your help!
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1.It's going to come out whenever AT&T decides to stop being an ass about not approving the update, it's nearly the flick of a switch.
2. Forgot to mention, you need Samsung Keis. Don't use it, it's a POS. Just install it for the drivers.
3. I dont honestly know. I just needed a card for backups. Once again, with your phone you do NOT need to worry about formatting.
4.I've never used it. 80$ is INSANE for a case. I would recommend Amazon personally.
Thanks for your reply back. I'll reply back this evening with follow up if you don't mind?
I saw someone mention case recommendations. That is honestly all preference and how much protection you want for your phone. I tend to baby my devices so I went with a White/Gray Speck candyshell case and Spigen SGP Crystal screen protector. The combo works perfect for me.
I have a class 10 San Disk 64gb card. I bought mine off of ebay for 79.99. You have to be careful on ebay with cards though. Some are counterfit. Just look for a US seller (if in the US) that has above 97% reputation that is selling it in retail packaging. I'm happy with mine. You may not need one that large, but like most people on here I have a lot of backups and custom ROMs. Lots of movies and music as well.
Like the other member said AT&T is taking their sweet time releasing our version of Jelly Bean. We are the only carrier that as far as I know hasn't had a "leak" released. Hopefully it will be sooner rather than later. There are many custom roms available that are running Jelly Bean already though. Just keep in mind that all ROMs have their own issues. Even stock (want me to tell you about 4.2 on Nexus 7? ugh).
The great thing about XDA is most people on here actually want to help. Just start browsing different forums. You'll pick things up in no time. Flashing ROMs and such is easier than it sounds.
Good luck! If you need help with anything you can PM me.
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So I just got a Samsung Galaxy SIII on AT&T. It's my first upgrade in almost 3 years. I previously had an HTC Tilt Pro or whatever that ran on Windows Mobile (with AT&T as well). I resisted an upgrade because I love the slide out QWERTY keyboard and tilting screen. The phone is now on it's last leg. When I got that phone I planned on doing all kinds of upgrades to it, but it just got too complicated for me to do. I have only powered up the SIII phone and that is all. I haven't done anything else on it (not even typed my name in or set the time/date).
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You apparently take care of your devices since the Tilt 2 ( I had that one also) is well over 4 years old.)
Please excuse my ignorance and please treat me like a little kid with jargon and instructions. Technical talk will just confuse me. Me searching and reading threads doesn't help. That just confuses me more. By you doing something like telling me to simply click on this link and do this instructions would be helpful. I copied all my pics, videos, audio files, etc into a folder on my laptop (Vista).
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We all had to start some where. I would recommend familiarizing yourself with some of the tech jargon.
I don't care to do too much with my phone (compared to the likes of what I am sure a lot of you do = way beyond my skill). I just want it to operate smoothly and be the best, the fastest, least battery consuming, safe and reliable phone I can have.
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You may say that now, but give it a month, and you will WANT and NEED to do MORE with your new S III. Also using it as a MP3 player WILL eat your battery up quite a bit, so keep that in mind.
How do I get Jellybean on my phone? Is it even available for the AT&T SIII yet? If not, what if I got ahead and get my phone up and running then it comes out later, would updating to it mess up all the work I've already done?
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As stated previously It is all up to AT&T deciding to let us have the update. So far as I know it is going to be both an OTA (over the air) and/or a KIES update. But no it won't (shouldn't unless AT&T makes things funky) mess up anything you have done or set up on your new phone.
How do I use my audio files on my memory card as text/email notifications and ring tones? What formats do they have to be in? Will the phone play previous videos and in what formats do they have to be in?
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MP3 works fine, and there is a built in player on the phone. Just transfer them over to the folders that were listed above and the phone will find them.
I plan on upgrading my current old 1GB microsd card to this:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-MicroSDXC-Adapter-VERSION/dp/B007UXTSTE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1353995670&sr=8-2&keywords=SDSDQUA-064G-A11A
Is this the proper microsd card for this phone? I read on some sites that it doesn't come properly formatted? NTFS, exFAT, ext 3, etc. I just want the most advanced, fastest, easiest to use 64 or 32 GB card out there....
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64 is a BIT much, I have a Class 10 32GB in my phone and have well over 20GB left even after all my music and back ups. Again as posted the phone will want to format the card when you put it in.
Do I need to worry about getting any type of virus protection or firewall program on it or anything to protect me against the "bad stuff" out there?
Where's the best place to get free apps?
What's the best case/holster? Otterbox I assume, but which model? Site reviews got me nowhere. Some say the Defender, but yet the built in screen protector hinders the screen clarity and also hampers the touch screen? If I get a lower grade Otterbox or other brand over the Defender, what are the best screen protectors to get? Is there a better protection case/holster combo out there and where to buy from?
Where's the most reputable and cheapest retailer to buy an extra wall charger and 2 car chargers that won't fry the battery?
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NO, you do not need Antivirus on the phone, it is a waste of both space and money. Again as posted above just be careful of what you install.
Google Play Store, and even Amazon, however there are A LOT of good developers here in XDA that have made various apps that work with teh S III, that they offer free to us members here. Be thankful and happy with what they have made, because without them your phone would be a shiny paperweight.
As for screen protectors, I went ahead with the ZAGG Premium shield for my S III, it cost me $19.99 + $4.95 shipping, I then took it to my local Zagg shop and had them install it. (I have shaky hands and couldn't install it.) Additional Cost $5.99
As far as cases go, get yourself what YOU think you want and what YOU really NEED. Sure those Otterbox cases are great, but since I got the Red version of the S III, I opted for a hard shell clear case from Amazon. I got it for literally $0.01, and free shipping to Alaska. It works great, protects both the back & front, without making a mess of my Zagg Shield.
I think that is all for now. Again, please excuse my ignorance and lack of skill to do something almost complex. I am sure this will be very elementary for many of you.
Aaaarrrrrrggghhhh!!!! Why is all this so complicated???? Please help me
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It's not complicated at all. As far as ignorance, your not ignorant simply because you logged in here, and asked for assistance. This phone is a bit "complex," but in a short time you will be flying through it without a problem. As far as helping you, as posted above, MANY if not the greatest majority of us here on XDA are here to help because we want to help. I
f I could make a suggestion though, when you need help, keep this thread you created handy and ask your questions here. This way you are not making up several additional threads. Again while many of us are here to help, we do have the "bashers" out there that will bash you for making extra threads that have either been discussed before or even if they feel it is redundant.
No then it is 10:00am here in Anchorage, and I need another cup of coffee, so please excuse me....If you have further questions, please feel free to message most any of us here that have responded to your thread.
Thanks a lot
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Yeah, this New Year would be exactly 3 years for my Tilt. I've got the latest version
So, with my file types currently on my laptop (see post above), will the S3 support them? Or do I need to convert any of them?
So I need to get this Kies? For the drivers only basically? How do I go about getting it?
Is removing AT&T crap that's on the phone difficult to do?
I plan on buying my sd card (I may save myself $30 and just get a 32, Amazon pricing 64 vs 32) and case (most likely Otterbox) from Amazon. I haven't looked too much into chargers and what not yet. I obviously got the one USB/wall charger with the phone. I will need at least another wall charger for work and 2 car chargers for my two vehicles. Not sure about the cheapest best ones to get for this. Any ideas?
Thanks again!
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Yeah, this New Year would be exactly 3 years for my Tilt. I've got the latest version
So, with my file types currently on my laptop (see post above), will the S3 support them? Or do I need to convert any of them?
So I need to get this Kies? For the drivers only basically? How do I go about getting it?
Is removing AT&T crap that's on the phone difficult to do?
I plan on buying my sd card (I may save myself $30 and just get a 32, Amazon pricing 64 vs 32) and case (most likely Otterbox) from Amazon. I haven't looked too much into chargers and what not yet. I obviously got the one USB/wall charger with the phone. I will need at least another wall charger for work and 2 car car chargers for my two vehicles. Not sure about the cheapest best ones to get for this.
Thanks again!
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The S III Should easily be able to playback your music and display your pics. Just plug your phone into the USB Cable and plug that into the computer, AFTER you have installed Kies, which you can get here http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/
Once you have it installed exit out of it, and open your "my computer" and click into the GS III then to internal or external. Most likely your external disk. Copy your pictures and music over to their respective folders, and call it good. Again while it is reported that the SGS III can use a 64 gig stick, 32 is pretty much all you will need, unless your storing tons of videos & music. Also remember that unlike other devices you cannot (under stock rom at least) move apps from internal memory to external memory.
As far as chargers go, I picked up a 2 USB port 12V jack, and just used a SHORT 3' USB to micro USB cable and routed the cable under the dash and all so that it was not 100% visible. At my work I just use another cable and plug into the USB of my workstation. This way if I need to I can charge the phone at work. but the SGS III has a REALLY good battery life if you get rid of the "stock widgets." Those things eat up your battery and data plan like pacman on crack.
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The S III Should easily be able to playback your music and display your pics. Just plug your phone into the USB Cable and plug that into the computer, AFTER you have installed Kies, which you can get here http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/
Once you have it installed exit out of it, and open your "my computer" and click into the GS III then to internal or external. Most likely your external disk. Copy your pictures and music over to their respective folders, and call it good. Again while it is reported that the SGS III can use a 64 gig stick, 32 is pretty much all you will need, unless your storing tons of videos & music. Also remember that unlike other devices you cannot (under stock rom at least) move apps from internal memory to external memory.
As far as chargers go, I picked up a 2 USB port 12V jack, and just used a SHORT 3' USB to micro USB cable and routed the cable under the dash and all so that it was not 100% visible. At my work I just use another cable and plug into the USB of my workstation. This way if I need to I can charge the phone at work. but the SGS III has a REALLY good battery life if you get rid of the "stock widgets." Those things eat up your battery and data plan like pacman on crack.
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How do I go about being able to save apps to the sd card? Simple downlaod?
How do I get rid of the "stock widgets" and other crap that is not needed that just bulk the phone memory?
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osualum78 said:
How do I go about being able to save apps to the sd card? Simple downlaod?
How do I get rid of the "stock widgets" and other crap that is not needed that just bulk the phone memory?
Thanks
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If I remember correctly I saw a news tip on the main page a while back for Apps2SD. Search for that story and you'll be good to go. It has the DL link for the app.
As far as the stock crap you mentioned you can use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps so they don't use system resources and don't appear in your app drawer anymore. Titanium Backup WILL let you uninstall any bloat as well, but I tend to just err on the side of caution and just freeze instead of uninstall. That way there are no issues that may arise if I chose to uninstall an app that I shouldn't have. Which has happened before. It's not fun. You may be able to find a "safe app" list that will show what can be deleted that won't effect the system. Try to do a search here on XDA.
osualum78 said:
How do I go about being able to save apps to the sd card? Simple downlaod?
How do I get rid of the "stock widgets" and other crap that is not needed that just bulk the phone memory?
Thanks
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As said above, freeze the bloat ware, a list for the safe ones that can be frozen/removed are here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728126 Do remember though that some of the bloat ware the updater for ICS or JB will be looking for, so you will need to unfreeze them when the update to JB is released.
Now as stated previously you could use apps2sd to move your apps to the sd card, but from my understanding that is not a viable means and often causes force closes and crashes of your apps. With 16 gigs of storage available on the S III it should be able to hold more apps then you will need. Just remember to make sure that your video's, music & pictures are stored on the sd card. The built in media player will still show them, and you would need to set up that storage of photo's taken with the phone are saved to the sd card.
Other then that You should be good to go.
I should have mentioned in my response what the other member suggested. Leave the apps on the internal storage and use external for movies and music. I actually was unaware of the force close issue in Apps2SD. I've only used it twice and that was only so I could familiarize myself on how to use the app. When I was using it I didn't get force closes but I've read the other posters help suggestions on various topics and have used the advice that was provided by them so if they state it force closes then take it as solid info.
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Isn't "Move to SD Card" already an option that you can use? I thought that we do not need to download the Apps2SD anymore. (That just a thought, I have not really look at my SIII in and out yet, since I just got it)
With moving Apps to SD card, it can also slow down the apps performance too at the same time. Not recommended (like previous post you have 16GB on the internal.) especially if you lose connection to your SD card (I had that experience with my SII)
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Isn't "Move to SD Card" already an option that you can use? I thought that we do not need to download the Apps2SD anymore. (That just a thought, I have not really look at my SIII in and out yet, since I just got it)
With moving Apps to SD card, it can also slow down the apps performance too at the same time. Not recommended (like previous post you have 16GB on the internal.) especially if you lose connection to your SD card (I had that experience with my SII)
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Move to SD has been removed at least in the stock form. I'm unable to confirm or deny for other ROM'S but the stock ROM'S have had it removed and several changes made to the file structure. Honestly I don't miss that feature, having moved from the Skyrocket to the S III. With 32gigs external I have more then enough storage for all my apps on the internal memory. And my pics, movies, customer DB's, music, all fit and run perfectly off of the external memory.
Now granted I opted for the Class 10 since it transfers data a bit faster then the others, but that was just my choice. Once you remove some of the bloat and all, you gain a bit more storage space. Phone runs cooler, less reboots, less FC's, and less system resources used up.
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Move to SD has been removed at least in the stock form. I'm unable to confirm or deny for other ROM'S but the stock ROM'S have had it removed and several changes made to the file structure. Honestly I don't miss that feature, having moved from the Skyrocket to the S III. With 32gigs external I have more then enough storage for all my apps on the internal memory. And my pics, movies, customer DB's, music, all fit and run perfectly off of the external memory.
Now granted I opted for the Class 10 since it transfers data a bit faster then the others, but that was just my choice. Once you remove some of the bloat and all, you gain a bit more storage space. Phone runs cooler, less reboots, less FC's, and less system resources used up.
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My thought exactly. I rather not use the move to SD option at all. For me I kept all my data on the SD card and let the apps stay where it at in the internal storage.
Yeah that's what most of us do. I just offered up the option BC he asked if it was possible.
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So my .wav and .amr and MP3 and MPEG 4 audio files will work, unlike the previous poster said that they'd have to be in MP3 format? And my .avi videos will work too? Sweet. I got 1GB of pics and video and audio (the pics ain't taking that space up) that I don't want to have to convert. That would suck.
Okay, so leave all apps on internal memory. Put my crap (non apps) on sd card. Got that.
Now on the bloat. Per link: "Now that the AT&T Galaxy S3 is rooted:" So I have to "root" it first? I just read the link to that and that seems effin complicated. Why can't this crap be easier?
What is ICS? JB = Jellybean?
What is the easiest way to root the phone to freeze/remove the bloat? The complicated link to root instructions, then download/install Titanium Backup (which is? How do I get it?), then I can freeze/remove bloat? For the OTA updates (ICS and JB, whatever ICS is), are any in the list of safe ones to freeze/remove ones that would be affected by an OTA update? But before all of that, I need to download Samsung Kies?
I just read the 4 pages of the "safe" items that can be froze/removed and just more confused. Post #27 seems to be a pretty large list, but knowing what each one is/does would be helpful. It seems as if getting rid of the Live Wallpapers would be fine (I still could use my own .jpg image for a home wallpaper, right?), and getting rid of all Yahoo crap would be fine with me as long as I can have the phone check my Yahoo email every 30 min for a push. Might as well get rid of the Google stuff? Etc. I don't know what this crap is. I know I won't want to deal with getting new clocks, contacts, calendar, texting (?, is the OEM texting feature crap on the S3?). Etc....
Aarrggghhhh!!!!! This is where **** gets confusing. Confusing ass root instructions. Why can't it just be download and install. Why the eff can't this be easier? Why the eff can't it be like a PC where you just go into Programs and delete the **** you don't want?
Can anyone give me "idiot" instructions from first step to last to help me? Remember, I haven't even set the time/date on my phone yet...
Going to order a SanDisk Ultra 32GB class 10 card and Otterbox tomorrow
Thanks Again!
you can disable some of the bloat with the built-in task manager. that should be sufficient to your needs. rooting is something that is not meant for you, from what i can tell.
your files shouldn't need to be converted. if the stock apps do not play them, you can try downloading a different player before converting to a compatible format.
in regards to otterboxes (specifically, the defender) you can pop out the built-in screen protector so you can another that is stuck to the screen. this is a permanent thing, and you also need to remove the adhesive on the inside of the otterbox.
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Idk if I would necessarily say rooting is not meant for you since we all have to start somewhere but he's right so far as you need to be careful and understand the methods before they're attempted. Thats why you're here obviously.
You can remove some bloat without root but most you can just disable with the method previously stated. Titanium Backup just streamlines the process but requires root. Without it you have to uninstall updates in app manager and then disable the app after having to go back into app manager once you uninstall the update. Kind of a pain.
If you aren't comfortable with rooting for fear you may mess something up then just go the app manager route. Takes more time to accomplish what TiBackup does easily is all.
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osualum78 said:
Aarrggghhhh!!!!! This is where **** gets confusing. Confusing ass root instructions. Why can't it just be download and install. Why the eff can't this be easier?
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Easiest method for rooting is Mskips toolkit IMO. It will unlock the bootloader, root, install busy box, etc. You just watch it do its thing. Its automated. You just select what build you have when you open the toolkit and then select the All-In-One option.
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I recently had a Samsung phone of mine break, so I took it into the store, used my warranty, and they gave me a new one, and I gave them my broken one. I then began to wonder, what happens to my old phone's data? If my phone is fixed and sold (I don't know if they do that, but if they do) will its next owner be able to read my text messages, etc? Or are they wiped? If wiped, how do they make sure that the next owner doesn't have some way of recovering the previous user's data?
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I recently had a Samsung phone of mine break, so I took it into the store, used my warranty, and they gave me a new one, and I gave them my broken one. I then began to wonder, what happens to my old phone's data? If my phone is fixed and sold (I don't know if they do that, but if they do) will its next owner be able to read my text messages, etc? Or are they wiped? If wiped, how do they make sure that the next owner doesn't have some way of recovering the previous user's data?
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I believe they are fixed, a factory reset is done to erase all user data, then it is sold to insurance companies to be used as insurance replacements. I doubt they are too interested in your texts, but naked pics you left on there might show up on some adult websites, nothing to get too worried about...
Ye that what i did but they didnt look if it has root. So they sold my broken phone (fixed) and the guy that buyed it knowed thats not right.
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They sell some to Asurion and keep some to use for Advanced Exchange replacements. In either instance, they replace the broken parts, flash a new ESN and then they do a clean ODIN flash (with Samsungs) which clears out any data anyways.
In my experience, Asurion refurbs are of lesser quality than Sprint refurbs.
I have gooten a refurb and used a recovery tool and found pics and videos on thr internal sd card. Its best to securely wipe the phone if possible.
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I guess if you're the kind of person who feels it is morally right to recover and look at someone else's data that you know you shouldn't look at, then more power to ya, buddy. Sure, they could have securely wiped their data, but seriously, how many people who own smartphones know how to do that? There's alot of people that don't even know how to do a hard reset on their own. Everyone should, but they don't.
I don't know if you're boasting or what, but whatever floats your boat.
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I guess if you're the kind of person who feels it is morally right to recover and look at someone else's data that you know you shouldn't look at, then more power to ya, buddy. Sure, they could have securely wiped their data, but seriously, how many people who own smartphones know how to do that? There's alot of people that don't even know how to do a hard reset on their own. Everyone should, but they don't.
I don't know if you're boasting or what, but whatever floats your boat.
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Any time I get a used device I recover and then securely wipe everything using DoD approved software. Don't want to get in trouble cuz the guy before me had kiddy pr0n or some sh*t on there and it didnt get wiped properly. And I've recovered some really messed up sh*t off of phones and laptops I buy used and clean up and flip.
I like to break stuff!
I've never seen the need to do any more than 1 pass of 0's. Without actually pulling the platters out I've never seen any data other than 0's from raw data recovery. (i.e. dd) I've also never been able to recover anything that i'd overwritten on flash media either.
I guess if it makes you feel better, then by all means, write 27 passes of garbage.
I only used the program because I wiped the internal losing my pics. I had the phone for about a month and a half before I needed to. I deleted those pics and vids after I found them. It wasnt my intent to look for that. I did however get most of my pics back so ut was worth it.
And no I was not boasting or bragging. Just sharing info. Sorry if it came across that way.
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Any time I get a used device I recover and then securely wipe everything using DoD approved software. Don't want to get in trouble cuz the guy before me had kiddy pr0n or some sh*t on there and it didnt get wiped properly. And I've recovered some really messed up sh*t off of phones and laptops I buy used and clean up and flip.
I like to break stuff!
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I kind of see your point. But what is the point of doing a recovery? I fully understand doing a secure wipe to prevent trouble, but there is no need to recover anything off the device if you are getting it from another person and then flipping it after the wipe.
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I kind of see your point. But what is the point of doing a recovery? I fully understand doing a secure wipe to prevent trouble, but there is no need to recover anything off the device if you are getting it from another person and then flipping it after the wipe.
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He's basically saying while you(the end user) may not want to recovery things... there may be others who want to. A "7 wipe" of changing all bits to 0 7 times is the DoD official solution to ensure any data is wiped - prior to physical destruction. (If done right you will never see a disk drive for sale at DRMO. If you do someone screwed up royally.)
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He's basically saying while you(the end user) may not want to recovery things... there may be others who want to. A "7 wipe" of changing all bits to 0 7 times is the DoD official solution to ensure any data is wiped - prior to physical destruction. (If done right you will never see a disk drive for sale at DRMO. If you do someone screwed up royally.)
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I know that. But I am asking why he recovers anything off of a phone if he intends to wipe and sell said device. Why bother with the recovery? Just wipe it and call it a day. I know the DoD standard for erasing information. Hell when I was in the Army we had a microwave specifically for CD's and DVD's then put them through a shredder.
I recover the data and store it on a external drove for 90 days. I do it because I usually contact the original owner (if I can get ahold of them) and ask them of theyd like their photos and stuff back. The few times I've found really ****ed up stuff like kiddy pr0n amd **** I stored it until the police could come and collect the device and recovered data and yes I take losses on those devices because I buy them and then turn them into police. Usually I just get people's family photos and stuff back that they thought were lost forever. I usually wont go through the data in any detail except to see if its worth storing until I can contact the owner. Unless it's something of an illegal nature then I have to go thru it and make a report with the police. The only things I report tho are violent/sexual crimes, drug stuff I just laugh at hell I may need to call the original owner for a bag of trees when im dry lol
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I wouldn't even go all that far. Trust me when I say that kiddy porn is bad and so are violent crimes and whatnot. But I personally wouldn't go through the trouble. I just wipe it a ton of times, throw random data on it then wipe it some more before I sell it. A friend of mine did the same as you and found what seemed to be kiddie pron. He reported it and they came and took his computers and all of his electronics that could store any kind of data. He wasn't charged with anything but since he was in possession of it even though he reported it, they took all his sh1t and only gave him back his 3 computers. He took a huge loss costing him about 3k. So i dont even bother trying to find it. What can be done and I have done it before is leave an anonymous tip with the police. If they get reports with children involved and a name of the accused, they will investigate.
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I wouldn't even go all that far. Trust me when I say that kiddy porn is bad and so are violent crimes and whatnot. But I personally wouldn't go through the trouble. I just wipe it a ton of times, throw random data on it then wipe it some more before I sell it. A friend of mine did the same as you and found what seemed to be kiddie pron. He reported it and they came and took his computers and all of his electronics that could store any kind of data. He wasn't charged with anything but since he was in possession of it even though he reported it, they took all his sh1t and only gave him back his 3 computers. He took a huge loss costing him about 3k. So i dont even bother trying to find it. What can be done and I have done it before is leave an anonymous tip with the police. If they get reports with children involved and a name of the accused, they will investigate.
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You realize its a class 3 federal felony to not report child sex crimes right? I have 2 boys if someone found out they were being abused by someone id hope theyd report it. I have a contract that tge original owner signs agreeing to data recovery even if they don't want it at the moment, which is why I hold it for 90 days in case they change their mind. Any kiddy pr0n **** I store to flash drives and turn it all over to the cops. Since Im friends with about 45% of the local sheriff's office including the sheriff himself they know I have no involvment other than reporting it. And everything I turn over isn't stuff I accidentally downloaded its all stuff tied back to the original owner thru their information and signature on the paperwork. It also covers my ass if the devices comes up stolen, basically same paperwork a pawnshop would have you fill out to pawn something. I had all my paperwork written up with the local DA and my attorneys to make sure I'm in the clear for anything I find and report. I got a laptop a couple years ago that actually had enough information still buried in the drive to help the cops solve a cold case murder of some eldery woman from the early 90s. Someone at some point who owned the laptop had saved emails and pictures and other documents on there, erased them but were still in a hidden partition that had never been touched by other data
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
You realize its a class 3 federal felony to not report child sex crimes right? I have 2 boys if someone found out they were being abused by someone id hope theyd report it. I have a contract that tge original owner signs agreeing to data recovery even if they don't want it at the moment, which is why I hold it for 90 days in case they change their mind. Any kiddy pr0n **** I store to flash drives and turn it all over to the cops. Since Im friends with about 45% of the local sheriff's office including the sheriff himself they know I have no involvment other than reporting it. And everything I turn over isn't stuff I accidentally downloaded its all stuff tied back to the original owner thru their information and signature on the paperwork. It also covers my ass if the devices comes up stolen, basically same paperwork a pawnshop would have you fill out to pawn something. I had all my paperwork written up with the local DA and my attorneys to make sure I'm in the clear for anything I find and report. I got a laptop a couple years ago that actually had enough information still buried in the drive to help the cops solve a cold case murder of some eldery woman from the early 90s. Someone at some point who owned the laptop had saved emails and pictures and other documents on there, erased them but were still in a hidden partition that had never been touched by other data
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I report any crimes involving children. I just do it anon style. I don't have all that extra stuff though. Like contracts and a good friendship with the police force. I haven't even bought and flipped any phones for almost a year now. Too many of them are stolen these days. Not Worth the hassle anymore.
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graydiggy said:
I report any crimes involving children. I just do it anon style. I don't have all that extra stuff though. Like contracts and a good friendship with the police force. I haven't even bought and flipped any phones for almost a year now. Too many of them are stolen these days. Not Worth the hassle anymore.
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Yeah stolen device's are why I originally had paperwork drawn up, but after talking to some of my cop buddies they suggested I add data recovery to my paperwork cuz they'd been able to solve or get leads on a lot of crimes doing data recovery on stolen or confiscated phones and other electronic devices. Id say 90% of what I recover is normal family photos and stuff like that but 10% of it is crime related mostly pot stuff or drug talk/pics but theres the rare occasion something really messed up shows up, like the pics I found a few weeks ago of some dead bodies that were all mutilated. Luckily I have a strong stomach cuz those pics made me nauseous and I've seen quite a few dead people in person over my lifetime.
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Yeah stolen device's are why I originally had paperwork drawn up, but after talking to some of my cop buddies they suggested I add data recovery to my paperwork cuz they'd been able to solve or get leads on a lot of crimes doing data recovery on stolen or confiscated phones and other electronic devices. Id say 90% of what I recover is normal family photos and stuff like that but 10% of it is crime related mostly pot stuff or drug talk/pics but theres the rare occasion something really messed up shows up, like the pics I found a few weeks ago of some dead bodies that were all mutilated. Luckily I have a strong stomach cuz those pics made me nauseous and I've seen quite a few dead people in person over my lifetime.
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I will look into doing the contract stuff. Do you happen to have a general outline of your contract that you wouldn't mind sharing so I may use it. I do plan on getting back into phone repair and reselling When I can afford it. I would like a good solid contract to cover my a$$. There is a ton of phones out there that have busted screens or messed up software begging to get fixed and sold. Plus the money isn't too bad either. Also, what program do you use for data recovery on the phones? I too have seen some pretty crazy stuff in my life as well. More than I want to see...
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graydiggy said:
I will look into doing the contract stuff. Do you happen to have a general outline of your contract that you wouldn't mind sharing so I may use it. I do plan on getting back into phone repair and reselling When I can afford it. I would like a good solid contract to cover my a$$. There is a ton of phones out there that have busted screens or messed up software begging to get fixed and sold. Plus the money isn't too bad either. Also, what program do you use for data recovery on the phones?
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We used a basic pawn paperwork pack and edited it to fit my situation adding in a sub section about data recovery. I use a few different programs but the main one is one I got thru my full time job which is expensive I think around 800-1000$ its used for data recovery by most large corporations and the government in the event of a drive dying or other data loss. It will actually pull data from a DBR drive after you pull the disk out and put it in a drive reader which looks like a record player/caseless hard drive thing it had an arm that spins over the disk to read whats left on the broken pieces, I don't have that part just the software. We do have the drive reader at the office where they use it to try and recover peoples data when we receive their damaged electonics they filed a claim on. I'll get the name of it and some of the better of the cheaper ones I've used
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I recover the data and store it on a external drove for 90 days. I do it because I usually contact the original owner (if I can get ahold of them) and ask them of theyd like their photos and stuff back. The few times I've found really ****ed up stuff like kiddy pr0n amd **** I stored it until the police could come and collect the device and recovered data and yes I take losses on those devices because I buy them and then turn them into police. Usually I just get people's family photos and stuff back that they thought were lost forever. I usually wont go through the data in any detail except to see if its worth storing until I can contact the owner. Unless it's something of an illegal nature then I have to go thru it and make a report with the police. The only things I report tho are violent/sexual crimes, drug stuff I just laugh at hell I may need to call the original owner for a bag of trees when im dry lol
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Dude thats awesome , helping protecting kids is always a + in my book
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Maybe noob question, but should we back this up still? If so with what method? I know I lost mine once on my s3, so like to have everything handy before going flash happy on my one. I spent over a year on my sammy so a lot of this htc stuff it's unfamiliar to me. Hate to break my phone I love it!!!
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Maybe noob question, but should we back this up still? If so with what method? I know I lost mine once on my s3, so like to have everything handy before going flash happy on my one. I spent over a year on my sammy so a lot of this htc stuff it's unfamiliar to me. Hate to break my phone I love it!!!
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You should keep a record of it somewhere. It is less important to keep track of now though because of the SIM card. Your account used to be associated with a MEID, now it is associated with your SIM ID.
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You should keep a record of it somewhere. It is less important to keep track of now though because of the SIM card. Your account used to be associated with a MEID, now it is associated with your SIM ID.
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When I lost it on my s3 lost all data, even with my SIM card. I tried restoring a known working backup, nothing worked. Ultimately I had to odin back to stock. Then used synergys script to back up my imei. Didn't know if it would work in this phone as well as I don't want to lose it again.
This phone is on sale today for $120 at Amazon. At that price and the specs it seems like a really great deal until I find out the cloud support will only be around for 6 months or so. If it had microSD it would still be a no-brainer but I'm concerned what will happen when they stop supporting the phone. Will we be able to use the cloud backup function if we use our own storage such as Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.? If this is not currently a possibility is it something that is even feasible in a custom ROM?
I don't need a ton of storage for anything but apps. I'm not a big gamer, I just have many apps that I use rarely but when I do need them, it would be very inconvenient to reinstall and sign in and change settings, etc. One of the most annoying things about Android is even the apps that are movable still remain partially on my internal storage. I also have a Huawei Watch and the apps for those alone that must remain on the phone memory hog a ton. I'm currently using an Honor 5x with only 16gb onboard so this phone would still be an upgrade for that... I just wish they could have splurged on an SDcard slot and it would be on the way to my house already. I know, I know, everyone wants their crap in a "cloud" now. I actually prefer local storage, I hate to be reliant on a data connection or someone else's servers but I still like the idea of this phone. Too bad not enough other people did to keep it from flopping. I feel really bad for the Kickstarter backers that paid $300-400.
Alternatively, does anyone know of any Android apps or custom ROMs even that perform a similar function where I can backup and restore apps from either a server, or even better my own SD card, without losing settings? I know there are a lot of apps that do this with the apks, but I want one that functions more like this phone does it. I don't care if I have to do it manually instead of it being automated in the background, as long as they are restored with settings intact. It seems like something that could be done but I have zero experience in Android Development. I'm guessing they locked out the ability to do this somehow or it would be done already. I'm not a huge fan of Android but even less of iOS or anything Apple which leaves little other choices these days. For the record, I still think old school Windows Mobile was the best phone OS ever until they bastardized it into Windows Phone.
AlternaGirl said:
This phone is on sale today for $120 at Amazon. At that price and the specs it seems like a really great deal until I find out the cloud support will only be around for 6 months or so. If it had microSD it would still be a no-brainer but I'm concerned what will happen when they stop supporting the phone. Will we be able to use the cloud backup function if we use our own storage such as Google Drive, OneDrive, etc.? If this is not currently a possibility is it something that is even feasible in a custom ROM?
I don't need a ton of storage for anything but apps. I'm not a big gamer, I just have many apps that I use rarely but when I do need them, it would be very inconvenient to reinstall and sign in and change settings, etc. One of the most annoying things about Android is even the apps that are movable still remain partially on my internal storage. I also have a Huawei Watch and the apps for those alone that must remain on the phone memory hog a ton. I'm currently using an Honor 5x with only 16gb onboard so this phone would still be an upgrade for that... I just wish they could have splurged on an SDcard slot and it would be on the way to my house already. I know, I know, everyone wants their crap in a "cloud" now. I actually prefer local storage, I hate to be reliant on a data connection or someone else's servers but I still like the idea of this phone. Too bad not enough other people did to keep it from flopping. I feel really bad for the Kickstarter backers that paid $300-400.
Alternatively, does anyone know of any Android apps or custom ROMs even that perform a similar function where I can backup and restore apps from either a server, or even better my own SD card, without losing settings? I know there are a lot of apps that do this with the apks, but I want one that functions more like this phone does it. I don't care if I have to do it manually instead of it being automated in the background, as long as they are restored with settings intact. It seems like something that could be done but I have zero experience in Android Development. I'm guessing they locked out the ability to do this somehow or it would be done already. I'm not a huge fan of Android but even less of iOS or anything Apple which leaves little other choices these days. For the record, I still think old school Windows Mobile was the best phone OS ever until they bastardized it into Windows Phone.
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If you're willing to root the phone, there are some options for using an app like Titanium Backup to save and restore your app data in conjunction with a separate cloud service like Google Drive or Dropbox for storing your backups. Titanium Backup even has some options for integrating your cloud service of choice and uploading automatically, but again this does require rooting.
Also, keep in mind that hardware limitations of the Robin prevent it from using USB host or USB On-The-Go adapters, which is one of the first things people wonder about when there's no SD card
However, it's still a good phone for such a low price.
It was actually $118 plus I get 5% back with the Amazon card so I bought one each in Mint and Midnight. Whichever one I don't keep, I'll give to my Mom. She's on a crap Windows Phone that is starting to have hardware issues. I think it will be perfect for her, if not way more than she needs. I have 30 days to decide since Amazon is great with returns. I shop with them so much I could probably buy a new phone and return it every month but I wouldn't do that. I did the slow shipping so hopefully Prime Day will come before my 30 days are up in case there's a better deal. I got my Honor 5x for $120 last Prime Day and I think I could probably sell it used a year later for $100 after keeping it in perfect condition. I do worry about the Robin holding any value but I never actually end up selling my old phones anyway, I have quite the historical collection. The lack of warranty concerns me but I think if I have any real issues I can get my money back from Amazon since I spend most of my money there. I think they sold a lot of Robins with that deal, most of the cases sold out by the end of the day. It's still only $130 so they must have quite a large supply of them. I'd be curious to know how many phones were manufactured and how many have sold but I doubt they make that public information.
Anyway thanks for all the info. I'll be back next week when I get it to get all the rooting info. I have to roll back my Huawei watch too, it didn't look like a quick process so I've been avoiding it but I hate 2.0... so I'll just have to devote one night to nerding out on XDA. It's been awhile.
Damn it, ****, f*ck donkey punch.. I refused REFUSED to buy a phone without an SD card, but just bought the robin on sale because I figured I could just use the cloud and keep my backup images on my USB otg drive. It didn't even occur to me that it doesn't support otg.. Wtf. I haven't even opened the box yet..
No wonder this phone flopped. No SD card, so no apps to SD, or an option to switch between cloud and SD card backup. Crappy battery. No host mode.. And for (what was) $400? Damn it maaan! I've never done any development on a phone without a card. Do you just push and pull your backups between a pc? What if you, ugh, nvm.. I'm about to find out I guess..
I'm gonna be PISSED if I see one of the phones I was gonna buy but didn't because I saw this with decent specs for $118
cjpicci said:
If you're willing to root the phone, there are some options for using an app like Titanium Backup to save and restore your app data in conjunction with a separate cloud service like Google Drive or Dropbox for storing your backups. Titanium Backup even has some options for integrating your cloud service of choice and uploading automatically, but again this does require rooting.
Also, keep in mind that hardware limitations of the Robin prevent it from using USB host or USB On-The-Go adapters, which is one of the first things people wonder about when there's no SD card
However, it's still a good phone for such a low price.
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soulife said:
Damn it, ****, f*ck donkey punch.. I refused REFUSED to buy a phone without an SD card, but just bought the robin on sale because I figured I could just use the cloud and keep my backup images on my USB otg drive. It didn't even occur to me that it doesn't support otg.. Wtf. I haven't even opened the box yet..
No wonder this phone flopped. No SD card, so no apps to SD, or an option to switch between cloud and SD card backup. Crappy battery. No host mode.. And for (what was) $400? Damn it maaan! I've never done any development on a phone without a card. Do you just push and pull your backups between a pc? What if you, ugh, nvm.. I'm about to find out I guess..
I'm gonna be PISSED if I see one of the phones I was gonna buy but didn't because I saw this with decent specs for $118
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I use the twrp adb backup function now. It works really well.