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New SEA ROM Update

Hi All
FYI - A new upodate available at HTC for SEA non-branded TP2's.
ROM Version 2.07.707.1
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
http://www.htc.com/sea/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
This one updates to a new version of Sense Ui and other stuff.
Impressions?
1. No Task Manager that can be utilised from the Home Screen (so how to change apps..?).
No Task Manager also means you can't readily see how much RAM is being hogged by the system.
2. No missed calls provision on Home Screen either..?
You do get the small icon on the top bar, a pop-up message AND the LED (green) actually flashes now - had to hack it before to do that.
3. Perhaps it's just mine, but to me the proximity sensor does not work now - it used too.
4. The shortcut Icons are stupidly large (3 per row).
5. The Programs Tab has been removed - this is a drag as the WinMo Programs area is still not dragable (just a go to the top option).
6. The Music Tab seems to now work better - at least it shows Album Art correctly now!
7. There's a Twitter Tab- not that i use it.
8. Calendar works differently.
9. Older Opera than current.
10. Older Google Maps than current.
11. It seems to be way louder than before too, both thru speaker and earpiece on a call - yay!!
12. The People Tab has changed to the new style - good.
13. FYI, SRS W0W (Sector HD2 version) still sends this version into no wakeup from Stand By mode - Damn!
13. New start animation (HTC-Simply Brilliant).
14. New background animations for Screen and Lock Screen.
15. Still can't believe that a Note file is not finger scrollable (WTF), yet Word is....
16. I have a sneaking suspicion that the battery life has taken a hit too, but unconfirmed at this point.
Lots of other changes to the UI, too numerous to make a big list.
In one way it is an improvement, although (to me) there have been a couple of backward steps, but overall, seems to be good.
One final thing, with this new UI - to me at least - it makes the scren look a little ...smaller.
Cheers
Jabberoo

wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting

mr_sheen said:
wow, they give us sense 2.5? how generous...lol
but seriously, no task manager? how is the package overall? snappy or slower than 2.1? my old 6.5 upgrade is running sweetly at the moment, but this update is tempting
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Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo

jabberoo said:
Still unsure, early days.
I have some doubts that the battery life will be as good with this new update, but time will tell. It does seem a little less glitchy when using, the Home Screen seems a little overcrowded though with 2.5.
Still really don't get the no Task Manager thing, how the hell do you multi-task if you have to go through a menu series of hoops to reinstate the underlying programs that are still open.
With that, if they can't be triggered off with an X option (like on the previous versions' TM) they will all just bank up till your RAM says goodnight or you need to go into the bog standard old TM to turn them off.
Maybe I am missing something here, but this is a major oversight....
Also, as above, the no Programs Tab, means you need to use the WinMo Program list and with no real way to put things where you want them (just the Move to Top option) seems kinda dopey too.
Cheers
Jabberoo
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This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though

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Would be good to move this thread to ROM section so more members can see it

AWESOME!!!
Even if Opera is older, actually renders touch.facebook.com alot better than previous releases (ie when ya tap a picture it shows up)
Google Maps 4 loads probably 3 times quicker on this rom than the first official SEA WM6.5
You can tell it to update weather and location on a schedule!! Yay!
It supports turning the ringer down when ya pick up the device, and has a pocket mode that makes it ring louder
It integrates the HTC messaging so ya dont see the ugly MS SMS app anymore
With this ROM, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a TP2 to my non tech savvy friends.
First impressions: I'm more excited than when I first got my TP2! Now to test Coreplayer and xVID AVIs (which where fine with 6.1 and not the 1st 6.5)

mr_sheen said:
This is the interface that the HD2 got, am i right? do they new weather animation thats different than sense 2.1?
As for the no task manager, that is totally weird. You might want to write to HTC customer service about that and see what they come up with. I personally think its stupid to exclude the task manager though.
For the start menu, i usually us Joe Wilcox's awesome start thing because i cant stand the honeycomb layout. I thought it was just a mess, and one thing for sure, i never use the start menu. I just put the program tab straight up next to my home tab. So, again, i think its stupid that they got rid of the program tab as well.
How was the opera? you said that it was older right? well in the 6.1 official upgrade it was smooth when i scroll up and down on it, in yhe official 6.5 it just lags and not smooth, although the page renders perfectly. How's the opera scrolling in this package?
thank you for your response though
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To the above, yes the Home Screen weather ani is there, but it was the first thing to go - seen it once and after that it just messed with resources.
The same with the annoying uber-flipping clock, maybe good on the HD2 but not so on the TP2 where it tended to be a little laggy and buggy in motion.
I added the X Touch Task Manager back in and now it is as it should have been from the start - much better.
For the Programs Tab, i grabbed Cookies Cab that did some neat stuff, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625483. The only down side with this is, as i've just discovered, is that you wont have a landscape Home Screen with the keyboard out...?
I did not really use Opera, just updated it and Google Maps straight away to the latest versions.
Overall, i think it is smoother, a little less laggy and well worth a look.
Did i mention it was louder too?
(I used the Audio Para tweak, but now do not have too)
Cheers
Jabberoo

can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?

x_sliver said:
can anyone confirm that the
Manila Version 2.5.20121225.6
in previous SEA 2.07 thread, it says 2.5.20121225.0
is there any differences?
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I have the same question, too

Contacts & Messaging sucks
While I can agree with some of the improvements that they have made, both contacts and messaging has been screwed up, a big mess.
Often one of this makes the phone hang and should say that I have reset the phone on more occasions in the last 2 days than I have done it in the last 6 months.
Missing feature of Task Manager from the task bar and the Program Tabs are a big let down.
Damn I am now waiting to get the next release, if we will have one.

anybody knows how to cut the RAM usage down at the start? my old official Sense 2.1 managed to started up at 42 % RAM after the resproxy tweaks and no push internet tweak. It seems that in this ROM those tweeks seems to do nothing, After i did the tweak on this Sense 2.5 ROM, the it starts up at 47%.
Anything new then? Plus there seems to be new entry in the resproxy registry called maxsharememsize or something like that. Should we put that to 0?

Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.

i am now seriously considering switching back to the official sense 2.1
why?
1. The resproxy and no push internet tweak doesnt work. My Ram shot >70% after a day where i use all the feature (twitter tab,album,music,lock screen etc)
2. The messaging app is just...bad. It lags and not responsive sonewhat. Plus after a soft reset it reads the sms that i have in inbox as coming from my sim card contact rather than phone contact. Glitchy.
3. It seems pretty quick after a hard reset, but after all the contacts is in and weather updated + software and such, the home screen and the whoke experience started to lag.
overall i think they should just keep the 2.5 to the HD2 i guess. Our TP2 just wont cut it...

Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?

shortly after applying this ROM, my TP2 fell of the window sill and bounced off the bench into the sink
Its away getting insurance quotes, etc. Having to rely on my Dopod 838 Pro. Yuck...

overall, this new official ROM is far much better than sense 2.1 altho u have to be a lil'conservative on opening programs. One feature I still can get to work perfectly...the FB photo albums on contacts. Not a single pic that I've seen appear on the album,eventho they did show the respective album names and number of pics inside.

Does it Have Vietnamese roms?
Do you think HTC SEA have vietnamese language? how do you switch to another language in HTC WM 6.5.xx?

haoren said:
Hi jabberoo, how do you get back the X Touch Task Manager back?
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Hi
Not sure of the question here...
You grab the "Touch X Taskmanager.cab", install it, go to settings/system and configure it, voila....!
I found the "Touch_X_Homescreen_Flip_clock_OFF.cab" is good too, getting rid of the unneccessary flipping action which becomes irritating after a short time, the "Touch_X_Left_softkey_as_camera.cab" is worthwhile too, instead of doubling up for Phone or using a quick link space for it.
Hope that helps...
BTW, the Mods to expand the Quick Links (HD2 tweaks) are all useless at this point, handy but useless, as they break Landscape mode with the Keyboard in the out position.
I am still finding that a GPS lock using TomTom can take several minutes to execute on this ROM, so no improvement there. It does work well, just can sometimes take a while to lock (but eventually does...)
Cheers to all
Jabberoo

I had noticed that with the Facebook Albums, too. I'm going to lodge a thing with HTC once I have my phone again...
As for the GPS lock taking several minutes: I get that with a brand new TomTom Go 750 if I travel to a different location with it off, then turn it on. I used to think the TP2 was a POS in that regard, but when the TomTom did it I thought that maybe it wasn't specific to the TP2.

penguinjet said:
Does anyone encountered the standby of dead issue in this rom? I have this problem when the first time i lock my phone and go to standby mode from the fresh boot up and it just wouldn't wakeup after i press the power on button. It seems the solution is to wait a little bit longer after you lock your phone then only switch the phone off. I have not seen this problem in previous official sea rom.
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Never had this issue with the ROM.
I tried to utilise SRS WOW (which is great) but this Standby issue was the end result on the TP2 (any ROM), which was a shame....
Cheers
Jabberoo

Froyo for Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris [2010-07-06]

Update: to enable bluetooth pairing do this in a terminal
$ su
# chown 1002.1002 /data/misc/bluetoothd
Now not only blueooth pairing starts working again but bluetooth music works too
I've pushed my VaniljFroyo modfications into dzo's repo so there is no VaniljFroyo anymore.
The official thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710105
The latest build can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/
Instructions
1. Get the latest build.
2. Rename it to androidinstall.tgz and place it in the andboot folder.
3. Install system.
4. Boot the system.
To gain an extra 11Mb of RAM on Kaiser or Polaris, get the kernels I've posted here: Get the kernel from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7079594&postcount=299
Vogue users can get this with the latest official kernel from dzo (2010-07-06)
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Old stuff below
This is basicly dzo's latest Fresh Froyo release with some minor adjustments.
With latest I mean the latest version available as I write this which is this version: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/system-froyo-01-07-10_18.tgz/download
Download: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/2010-07-02/VaniljFroyo_RLS2.zip/download
RLS2
- Market now works (Thanks mssmison and Incubus)
- Slight QVGA adjustments to the drawer phone keypad.
- Added google maps framework (needed by apps that uses maps)
- Added Facebook and Twitter from FRF85b just because there was room left
- Removed nonworking MagicSmoke live wallpaper
RLS1
- Wifi support
- QVGA adjusted bootanimation, backgrounds, DeskClock app and Music app.
- Added bash
- Added a bunch of nice scripts that I made for VaniljEclair.
- Added compcache support.
Get a terminal from Market, then use the following scripts (always do an su first):
enable_compcache.sh - Enable compcache (use the command free before and after to see the difference)
disable_compcache.sh - Guess what it does?
wifi_level.sh low|medium|high|extreme (medium is the default, low does not work for me)
default_network.sh
hsxpa.sh
gprsclass.sh
lcd_density.sh
But you propably won't need to change anything but I recommend trying with and without compcache. It propably helps a bit.
Oh, and the odex.sh script is included and can be enabled from userinit.sh, just like with VaniljEclair RLS7 it takes care of upgrades and uninstalls on the next restart of the phone. Not sure really how it affects performance but since odexing the system apps gives a noticable boost it can't hurt.
Don't expect everything to work flawlessly and have fun!
You may want to try another Launcher like the very nice Launcher Pro that is available for free from the Market.
If cyanogen says this about running Launcher2 (which is what we have in Froyo) on HTC Dream/Sapphire(magic)
* Launcher2 (too clunky for these devices)
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then I think we have a good reason to try other launchers aswell.

thanks a lot
would be nice to know fromwich release is made... i assume RLS4
thanks fot all that job

iseeka said:
thanks a lot
would be nice to know fromwich release is made... i assume RLS4
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You're absolutely right. I'll add that to the first post. It's based on this one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/androidhtc/files/system-froyo-01-07-10_18.tgz/download
thanks fot all that job
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Most of the work was done by dzo.

I am so glad you have a kaiser...
Thank you.

Haha, I just update to release 7c of VaniljEclair and you tease me with this....

Just to clarify, when installing or updating new apps, we have to run odex script?

jfg69 said:
Haha, I just update to release 7c of VaniljEclair and you tease me with this....
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And so now I am running this and so far, no real problems. Make and recieve calls, phone syncs contacts, camera works reasonably well. Sometimes I am getting lines when snapping pic, but actual pic is fine with no lines. Only camera issue is trying to adjust zoom gives a FC.
Looking at apps now to see whats available. So far :2 thumbs up:
EDIT: Installed Astro to try and install some backed up apps thru Astros's backup function. Checking off the app I want to install and hit "install" button; Message says nothing is checked to install. Was able to navigate to backup folder directly and install app (Battery Widget.) Hitting OK caused Astro to go blackscreen. I'm thinking this is an Astro issue, not Froyo.

Wait.... hang on, I mean already? Dammit I told you I was gonna have to tie you to a chair if you made any major updates......
Aaaarghhhhh
Lol, I really want to try this now, but I already decided I was gonna do some gps stuff this weekend.......
What the heck, I can always use my old diamond if I really get stuck for a phone, Downloading now, ( and how do you find time to keep up with all this?).

nice i will peep some stuff out

what works and what doesn`t
can somebody share what works in this build and what are the major bugs `cause i installed vaniljeclair just an hour ago having some battery issues but thi is android after all and it rocks ... keep up the good work dude

rollride said:
can somebody share what works in this build and what are the major bugs
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See post 7 above... I'm on a Tilt/Kaiser100 running todays NBH and FroyoR1

jfg69 said:
And so now I am running this and so far, no real problems. Make and recieve calls, phone syncs contacts, camera works reasonably well. Sometimes I am getting lines when snapping pic, but actual pic is fine with no lines. Only camera issue is trying to adjust zoom gives a FC.
Looking at apps now to see whats available. So far :2 thumbs up:
EDIT: Installed Astro to try and install some backed up apps thru Astros's backup function. Checking off the app I want to install and hit "install" button; Message says nothing is checked to install. Was able to navigate to backup folder directly and install app (Battery Widget.) Hitting OK caused Astro to go blackscreen. I'm thinking this is an Astro issue, not Froyo.
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Just noticed the on screen keyboard in Market is an Asian dial pad.. locked up on me 2x trying to tap letters in.

jfg69 said:
Just noticed the on screen keyboard in Market is an Asian dial pad.. locked up on me 2x trying to tap letters in.
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I was able to get the normal English keyboard by disabling the "Japanese IME" in Language and Keyboard settings. Not completely sure about stability yet but it seems to be working as expected now.

is this using jit?

looks very nice but can it run app2sd
I don't know I'm legally blond

GPRS
Great work kallt_kaffe! Fast and stable build! I hope there shall be a fix for the market .
On first boot, there is no usual setup wizard, and I like that way, but somehow my phone wont connect to GPRS, I have no data connection. Phone is working. Seemingly it recognised my Network APN settings, but still, there is no connection. Can someone help me, please?

incubus has posted a market fix for his froyo thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712310
I am sure it should work for this build as well as they are both based from dzo.

Great work Kallt . OS with newest NBH from dzo works f**kin awesome fast in comare to Eclair. But Still same issue like in Eclair RLS7b/c with bonus. On RLS7b/c I cannot call only on GSM, on FroYo cannot call on GSM/UMTS (on PolyMod 2.1d/g all works fine )
Thanks again for Your hard work

here is a few of my findings so far...
betterterminal FCs
getprop fix from vaniljeclair doesn't fix it.
wifi is not connecting...(probably need to run script but having trouble without a terminal)
would like to see contacts and dialer that is used in eclair version.
other than that it looks very prommising....
for now I will keep vaniljeclair in nand and try to play with froyo on partitions.

Installed now, plus Incubus Market fix, which required a fresh install, since I merged the update with the installer tarball, it does find more apps, but is still not quite finding all my previous favourites, ( how can I survive without Facebook, or tapatalk?).
It is faster, or feels faster at any rate, looks nicer too, settings is less cluttered, and easier to navigate, I will have to give it my usual road test, but so far it looks like a winner

Ice Glacier Rom Guide- (Tips known issues and info)

Hi everybody, I have been closely following the ICED GLACIER ROM development thread since it was started. I know there is a consistently growing number of people who have just purchased their myTouch 4G phone (android noobs and vets). The ICED GLACIER ROM thread is getting really large, and I am sure the thought of reading through 1,600+ posts can potentially be a little overwhelming and very time consuming. I know everyone is really excited to try that AWESOME ROM, but I also see in the thread that everyone wants to know what works, what doesn't, how to fix this, etc... I'm hoping that people with questions about this ROM can look here for an answer before asking questions in the other thread that have already been answered along the way (sometimes many times). I hope this will help the devs too- if we can provide info and answer questions about everything that has already been answered in the other thread then we can get rid of repeat posts of questions and problems that are cluttering up the other thread- meaning it'll hopefully be really easy to narrow down current hiccups or problems people are experiencing. If anyone can contribute to this thread, it would be greatly appreciated!
*Flashing- When I first flashed this ROM, Iced Glacier was at 1.0, first I flashed V0.5, then V1.0. With V1.1, you no longer need to flash V0.5 or any other version first- you can go from stock rooted to V1.1 (make sure to make a nandroid backup first!!!). If you are not sure how to flash this ROM, or how to root your phone- you WILL find answers by reading through some of the other threads in this section. *It looks like a few people have had problems when/ after flashing this ROM due to not completely wiping the phone in different versions of this ROM- you might want to do a complete wipe just to be thorough (I'm no expert, it's just a suggestion to hopefully save you any headaches down the road)
*Overclocking- Make sure to install/ purchase SetCPU, so you can tweak the processor speeds. If you are not sure what SetCPU is, or how to use it- do some studying first. It has been noted that each of our phones responds differently with the different speed settings- I have noticed, that when I have my phone set too high it freezes (particularly while I'm surfing using Dolphin HD), and I have also noticed that I get better performance (and Quadrant results) when my max speed is set at 1440 mhz as opposed to 1382 or 1497mhz. Again, every phone will respond different. Play with the different speeds and see what works best for your phone- everyone can make recommendations (i.e. lower clock speeds with the screen off, battery low, or temp too high), but in the end you have to find what works best for you. I would recommend that you use the 'on demand' option instead of 'performance' to avoid having your phone constantly working at the highest set clock speed though, and don't forget to set different profiles (i.e. screen off, temp too high, battery low...). Remeber, this will affect your battery life, along with a million other variables related to your phone, so make note of before and after results to find a good balance between speed/performance and battery longevity to your liking.
*Apps and Data before flashing the ROM- install 'Titanium Backup' (I recommend purchase as well to support the creator) and batch 'backup all of your apps and data' (run the batch 'verify backup' afterwords to make sure you have a good backup to restore after installing this ROM). I had problems with my backups, so after I flashed V1.0 every time I tried to batch 'restore all apps and data' my phone would reboot, in the end I went through my backup and individually restored data (and app if it was missing) for all of my apps- time consuming, I know, but it was worth it to have this ROM (note: I was using the free version of TB- I now have purchased the app, but haven't had to use it yet for a full batch 'restore').
*Once you have installed the ROM- open 'rom manager' and execute 'fix permissions'. Do this first, as it will likely fix force closes or the 'instant close upon starting the app' that sometimes happens, before you experience them. After running 'fix permissions'- power down, pull your battery for a couple minutes, and then restart your phone (I suggest this, because I had an 'instant close' problem with wi-fi calling and power down + pull battery fixed it for me). You will also want to check to make sure your wi-fi is functional-if not Gr8gorilla has a fix here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9328350&postcount=1
*Test a flash website on your browser- if it does not work, you likely have to install flash from the market. If it does work- you should be good.
*Bluetooth- If you use bluetooth for calls, it should work fine (I use bluetooth for making calls and have had no problems with V1.0 or V1.11). However, if you use bluetooth for stereo music (A2DP) I understand that it does work with V1.0, but not on V1.11. I have noticed that when I have bluetooth turned on and try to dial a number on the stock dialer- it is very very sluggish to dial the numbers (ex. I press a 5 on the dial pad and wait about 2-3 seconds for the number to light up, sound the DTMF tone, and provide the haptic feedback). I have since switched over to using the 'atakephone' app and have had 0 problems. ***The devs are aware of the bluetooth issue, and plan to include a fix in the next update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9684992&postcount=1577 *EDIT*- bluetooth fixed in ROM V1.1.2
*Genius/ Handsfree- there have been issues with this not functioning properly or not at all. Again, this will be fixed in the next update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9684317&postcount=1573 *EDIT* Fixed in the V1.1.2 update!
*YouTube app- I would say it's not usable- it starts 'turbo scrolling' when I use it- it will sometimes stop if you hold your finger on the screen, but revert back when you take your finger off. This ROM is based off of the original MT4G kernel and I think I read somewhere that the version of this youtube app associated with the original kernel had this bug. Goolge released a new version of the youtube app yesterday (12-8-10)- since I installed that update, I no longer have problems in the app. *EDIT* See *RECAP- KNOWN ISSUES below.
*MMS- looks like some are having problems sending and recieving MMS messages- it might be a problem with the phone rather than this ROM (I am getting a replacement because my phone has that problem). Depending on who you talk to at Tmo customer service, they will confirm it as a known issue with the 4G. Make sure to do atleast a handful of tests sending and recieving with your phone before and after flashing. *EDIT*- some people (myself included) noticed that when using the stock messages app, contacts pictures don't display- looks like there are 2 fixes, 1 being a FULL wipe and fresh install of the ROM or 2- clearing cerain contacts cache settings as Notxel21 posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9706457&postcount=1653
*Bloatware- this ROM has the original bloatware apps removed. The Monopoly demo, demo video, Rock Band Demo, etc. are gone (as well as some other stuff that I forgot to mention- which is proof that it wasn't needed in the ROM anyway ).*** A 'spare parts' app was added for tweaking window animations and viewing battery stats. A 'dsp settings' app was also added to allow equalizer settings for the phones earpiece, external speaker, and the 3.5mm headphone port (really sweet btw!). I had to reinstall 'superuser', 'rom manager', and titanium backup from the market after flashing. The market still works for me after flash without any glitches fwiw.
***Updates- they will come when they come, theres no need to ask about it every day or so. The easiest way to check for yourself is to open the Iced Glacier ROM thread and look at the changelog in post #2- the devs have been faithful to update that post whenever they release a new version. (You can also look through the first post, but the second is cleaner as they put the newest changelog right at the top of the post) *EDIT*- Version 1.1.2 released
*RECAP- KNOWN ISSUES-- Youtube- no worky until you update in the market *EDIT* some are having problems with the youtube app in the 1.1.2 version- looks like it works fine until you use the app in landscape and try to return to portrait- the display returns to portrait, but stays stretched out for widescreen.
*Themed vs. Unthemed- I tried themed first in V1.0- I switched to unthemed and currently use V1.11 unthemed. I only used the V1.0 themed version for about 15 minutes, so I can't really provide any info on it aside from intense screen transition effects and alot of blue/black icons. V1.0 unthemed appears just like stock (if you don't like the HTC sense, you can use launcher pro, ADW or a list of other homescreen replacements). V1.11 Unthemed looks just like stock, but the drop down notification bar is transparent, and the icons at the top are colored with a circle battery meter that shows the battery % in the middle (very cool). There are other notification icon options available in the themes and apps section of this MT4G forum if you want to try something different, but I think you will lose the transparent drop down if you flash a different bar.
*There are also some other issues that seem to be random- someone is having problems with wifi not working at all, someone having problems with the 'media room' app, etc... to my knowledge there is currently no resolve for these problems.
Hope this helps! If anyone has anything to contribute, please let me know, and I will try to update this OP, so all the help stays in one common place.

Maybe consider making each topic header bold or something to combat the "wall of text" effect.

this hurts
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itmustbejj said:
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Excellent, thanks! I just threw it together on 'notepad'...never gonna do that again- no formating sucks lol

1.1.2 is up now.... in case you didnt see lol..
No DSP manager in this one, didnt look to see if it was in 1.1.1. Also, Wish Meltus Audi hack worked for our phones.

crypysmoker said:
1.1.2 is up now.... in case you didnt see lol..
No DSP manager in this one, didnt look to see if it was in 1.1.1. Also, Wish Meltus Audi hack worked for our phones.
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lol, Yeah, 1.1.2- go figure, just as I got done typing this out I logged in to the forums here to see that. I've never heard of Wish Meltus Audi- I'm gonna do a search.
EDIT: Found it- Meltus' Audio Hack- that would be cool!

This is not development and needs to be closed or moved
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Foo_Blyat said:
This is not development and needs to be closed or moved
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OK, how do I move it, or do I have to request it be moved?
I guess it probably could be closed anyway since IG is now at 1.1.2. Gotta love the speed of development!

I like how not a single person thanked you for your effort. So... thank you! This was very nice of you.
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I like how not a single person thanked you for your effort. So... thank you! This was very nice of you.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Hey, thanks alot, that goes a long way! Since IG has been updated I will continue to keep an eye on it and update this thread accordingly. I plan to work on that tonight.

No Bugs in Mine
I have noticed none of the above mentioned bugs you claim. Youtube works fine, and so does Genius button. According to information I have gotten from others on IRC, the only bug is BT stereo, which I do not care about to be honest. I recommend the non-themed version.

photolarry said:
I have noticed none of the above mentioned bugs you claim. Youtube works fine, and so does Genius button. According to information I have gotten from others on IRC, the only bug is BT stereo, which I do not care about to be honest. I recommend the non-themed version.
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Your fortunate. Not everyone has experienced all of these bugs, I'm just posting what I have read about in the IG ROM thread as well as what I have experienced. As far as the non-themed version, it's my fav. Just got my replacement phone and looking forward to flashing IG 1.1.2, but first I'm gonna play catchup in that thread to see if I need to update this one yet.

bubonik said:
I like how not a single person thanked you for your effort. So... thank you! This was very nice of you.
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The same I say!!

dragon4000 said:
The same I say!!
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Thank you!!!

Duplicate Ringtones and Notifications
I am not sure what happened but all of a sudden I see two of each ringtone and notification. They seem to work properly but not sure why they are showing up twice. I added a few new ones to /system/media/audio by hand. Wondering if this has been tested by anyone else. I do not have any in /sdcard since I thought that could be problematic.
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Update: I fixed this issue by creating directories on /sdcard/media/audio as follows but empty folders:
/sdcard/media/audio/ringtones
/sdcard/media/audio/notifications
Also according to Zinx: Any folders on the /sdcard named notifications or ringtones will be found regardless of subdirectories...thus I think that may have been the entire issue I was seeing.

Everything looks about right

photolarry said:
I am not sure what happened but all of a sudden I see two of each ringtone and notification. They seem to work properly but not sure why they are showing up twice. I added a few new ones to /system/media/audio by hand. Wondering if this has been tested by anyone else. I do not have any in /sdcard since I thought that could be problematic.
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Update: I fixed this issue by creating directories on /sdcard/media/audio as follows but empty folders:
/sdcard/media/audio/ringtones
/sdcard/media/audio/notifications
Also according to Zinx: Any folders on the /sdcard named notifications or ringtones will be found regardless of subdirectories...thus I think that may have been the entire issue I was seeing.
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I'm glad you were able to fix it! I had that same problem shortly after I got my phone, but it was with alot of my pictures as well. I ended up searching my sdcard from my computer for *.mp3 and *.jp to find all of the duplicates.
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Here is a problem I've came across....not rebooting after I flashed 1.1.2 I have to actually pull my battery and power up. Very strange to me
Has anyone else experienced this

g33kChic said:
Here is a problem I've came across....not rebooting after I flashed 1.1.2 I have to actually pull my battery and power up. Very strange to me
Has anyone else experienced this
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Was that through Clockwork- when you choose the reboot option after flashing? When you power down, do you have to pull your batt before you can restart your phone again? I know that the first time I flash a zip through clockwork, when I select reboot- there is a longer delay than if I were to execute that command without flashing any .zips.

Nice thread, should really help. I really wish someone had a list of the bloatware that was removed from it though, I used more of it than I didn't. There might be something removed that I might need someday.

Froyo 2.2.2 UK Retail Issues

I will update this thread as I found issues.
1. Middle of downloads the phone turned off and refused to switch on. Taking the battery out enabled restarting the phone again.
2. Despite of master reset/factory reset the phone is really laggy. Freezing applications made Defy very responsive but under 2.2.2 it appears no difference at all. (Second factory reset seems brought back somme life to my phone now...)
3. Definitely something is causing an annoying delay at startup even though the phone appears to be ready to use.
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
5. Once a number is dialed the phone locks itself. This is rather inconvenience when you need immediately use the key pad to select options. (20 June 2011)
Guidelines - 20 June 2011
I decided to write a guideline for Defy users. The information provided here have already been mentioned by others but normally not in one place. Please follow the steps below every time you flash a new ROM.
1. Master Reset (Whether you like this step or not this is required to do. Imagine upgrading a windows machine, it would be simply a mess in most cases. Any pro users would tell you always to do a clearn install. The same principle with Android applies)
2. Discharge the battery (It seems flashing a ROM messes up the battery calibration. Drain the battery to the point it won't boot then recharge it from the wall socket)
3. Avoid Restoring Apps (Only if is a must. Since Android 2.2 is different to 2.1 many apps might not work very well with the same settings restored from 2.1. Some vendors also offer different version for Android 2.2 or higher. Installing from market is best practice)
4. Avoid using widgets (They are simply battery eaters. Avoid them if they don't provide useful functionality to you)
5. Don't trust all vendors (Many apps placed on Android Market is written by programmers with no experience at all. A badly written app not only drains more battery but also takes up more precious RAM than it should. The less RAM you have, the slower the phone performs)
6. Don't keep large number of emails in your inboxes (They simply take up more memory)
7. Charge your mobile from wall socket when you can. It really does make a difference and also a recommended method by Motorola.
8. Put the Mobile Network to 2G when you can. It does save considerable amount of battery.
9. Switch off the phone once per day for 30 seconds before switching it on again.

Any chance to get hands on SBF for this release

Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#

CSharpHeaven said:
4. I have noticed once after a restart the capacitive buttons didn't light up for 1-2 minutes even though I was using the phone. The LauncherPro is installed and I'm suspecting that is the culprit here.
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I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.

techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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techguyone said:
Download available : Here http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/support/update/#
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That will get you the motorola update software.
During the update the .sbf is downloaded. We need to get the sbf, however it is deleted once the update has finished. I think this happens when the motorola software asks to "reboot phone, connect usb and verify update".
Please, if anyone does the update make sure to find the .sbf file and copy it somewhere safe before the update is verified. Then post to xda of course
Olly

binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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I'm not sure either, I reverted to 2.51 and did the update form that point.
Anyone installed CM over 3.4.2_177-3?
Olly

kashavsehra said:
I notice on my handset (UK T-Mobile eclair) that the capacitive buttons sometimes dont light up when holding the phone landscape. I think there is a light sensor somewhere which detects the ambient light and adjusts the capacitive button lighting.
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Thanks for that. I can actually reconfirm the issue. Last night when I was setting my alarm, with no lights in the room, I noticed once again the capacitive buttons' led were off. I was helding the phone in portrait and I know for sure this problem wasn't there in 2.1 because I always set my alarm after I turn the lights off (Bedroom's). When I press the Home Key to come out of the Alarm app the capacitive buttons lit up again.

binodnepal said:
I am on cm7 not sure if the phone will be detected by the msu. Will try once getting back home.
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If the msu is compiled by Motorola then I'm sure you won't be able to upgrade. The .msu can contain many other smaller installers that can do all the checking, exactly the way the update program does. Your only solutuion is to revert back to Motorola's stock ROM and give it a try.

Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?

I found the gallery the worst bit. So poor, I can't believe they let it go out like that. Runs like a dog.
I feel embarrassed for Motorola. Or I would if they were not working hard every day making their great hardware under-perform!
Seriously what a phone once CM is on it!
Olly

Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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rogier666 said:
Two more very annoying Defy/Froyo issues:
1) You can't disable the lockscreen anymore, so prepare for a lot of annoying swiping. Yes, you can get rid of the slider with an app called "No Lock," but this will also disable your security lock (pin code or pattern) which leaves your phone wide open.
2) The new gallery has more eye candy but less functionality, and it got slower too. If you open the folder list you can't read long folder names anymore. Is there is a way to run the old 2.1 gallery on Froyo?
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As far as I'm concerned Motorola has degraded the phone and I'm not too sure if that is legal or not. I'm referring to the apps Motorola developed such as the video player and the gallery that you pointed out, not the Android itself. The additional Task Manager that was shipped with 2.1 in US is a welcome.
I have found my defy is performing slower, unless those claim Defy performs better with Android 2.2 has some settings that I don't. I ended up installing SetVSel to speed thigns up. It seems to me I'm getting 1/4 less juice out of my battery. I can reconfirm it once I play music on it for a couple of hours.
Not wanting to sound negative all the time, here are some positive things I found so far. I'm very happy with this update because now I got all my emails working on my handset which was important to me which missed the feature for the past 6 months. The browser appears to work very smoothly in most cases. I haven't used the Tasks app yet but that is another welcome addition as I always have a need for such features on portable devices. Other positive things about Android is to thank google not Motorola anyway. The slightly improved dialer worth just mentioning about it.
If Motorola refuses to give us Gingerbread then I hope they provide an update to fix some minor issues that either annoying or impacting the user experience soon enough.

I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !

MrBelter said:
Use quickpic off the market, best gallery around
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QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.

lotfib said:
I gotta say I'm pretty surprised about all the issues people are facing with the Froyo update everywhere. I had the french update installed which was one of the first available in Europe before moving on to the leaked 2.3.3 and it was smoother than ever. No bug at all except for the space touch getting a bit crazy while typing a text a few times. I didn't have many applications installed. A few people mentioned the update's fine as long as you don't have much installed on the phone but it starts getting extremely laggy when you keep installing more and more applications. After a factory reset there shouldn't be any lags though !
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Thank you for your post. In my experience there was a noticeable performance difference between 2.1 and 2.2.2 before a single application was installed. One theory to why some people are happy with the performance and others are not could be down to different components used in Defy. No one knows for sure if all Defy around the globe use exactly the same components or not. As you pointed out installing apps appears to effect the performance so we can conclude those that are not experiencing performance decrease are not power users.

rogier666 said:
QuickPic would be the best gallery app if it would let us change the grid size (the thumbnail previews are too big now) and if it had "all photos" and "all videos" views. Unfortunately QuickPic only does folders.
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I am confused, all my photos and videos are in folders anyway and all the previews load like lightning so i fail to to see the problem, it is better than any default gallery whichever way you look at it.
Anyway only issue i can find with the retail 2.2 is how low highest screen brightness setting seems to be, the display is really hard to read outside now.

If you have a hundred pictures scattered over ten folders, would you want to tap into those folders one by one to browse all your photos?
Just like there's a unified inbox for mails from many accounts so you don't have to jump from one mailbox to the next, the stock gallery has a unified pictures view (all pictures in one grid) for all your folders.
If you want to swipe through lots of pictures from a bunch of different folders, having them all in one grid beats having to open all the different folders one by one.
If QuickPic would have the same unified picture view and custom picture grid sizes I would throw the stock gallery out. While QuickPic is working on it (are they?) I'll keep both apps.

The problem with the capacitive buttons that not lighting up is worse than I thought. It happens all the time, it doesn't light up and the only way to make it to work, when it gets really bad, by locking the phone (power switch) and unlocking it again.
The battery life noticeably shortened after the update. What I have done today was to completely discharge the battery to the point it doesn't turn on. Recharged it fully again without turning it on and from the wall socket. I'll report back if there was any improvements on Monday.
I also uninstalled VSel and set it to default CPU speed again. Despite of freezing so many apps and services the start up is really slow and I really feel the lag with the phone.

Another Defy/Froyo bug:
Dial *#*#4636#*#* to get into a service menu. From there battery_history/network_usage would tell you network traffic per app since last boot/unplugged/all time.
In Eclair all data was counted. In Froyo it usually doesn't count anything.

[Q] A few Nexus questions from an android noob. Thanks for your help!

Howdy....
I have a few questions that I'm hoping you can shed some light on....thanks in advance!
1) My home button jumps to the 3rd homescreen. This is different than on my previous Galaxy SII. Any way to get it to jump to the first homescreen?
2) When I switch to SVOX Classic TTS, and use Google navigation, each voice response goes on for 2 minutes talking about http this and that, with lots of garbled words. Sounds like it's describing an XML or HTML web page. Has anyone else seen this?
3) Chome to Phone is crashing. Is this just an update thing I need to wait for?
4) Jump Desktop also crashes... Also an update thing?
Thanks for any help you can offer!
Best,
Ben

Since I can't help with the other questions.. I will just go ahead and say that yes, the home button jumping to the third homescreen is normal.. Touchwiz does it differently, which is why the behavior is different.

joshnichols189 said:
Since I can't help with the other questions.. I will just go ahead and say that yes, the home button jumping to the third homescreen is normal.. Touchwiz does it differently, which is why the behavior is different.
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Just to add most android phones I've had (two HTC and now the GNex) and the customs roms I've used (Sense, Blur, Vanilla, Liquid Metal), pressing the home button always led to the middle Homescreen. Samsung I guess really did copy i*hone (as much as I hate to say it).

2) Yes, I've experienced this as well - newest Maps and SVOX Classic with the U.S. English "Grace" voice. From earlier TTS problems I recall that it's explicitly logged (viewable with logcat) what is sent to the TTS engine, so maybe this could provide some clue.
3) Chrome To Phone works well for me, on all iterations of ICS (stock and custom) that I've tested.

4) Jump Desktop also crashes... Also an update thing?
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We've fixed this crash. It was an ICS only crash.
Grab the latest Jump Desktop update (2.6.11+) on the market and you should be good to go!

Thanks for the responses...
Jump Desktop works fine now! Thanks for the update!
Still hoping for a SVOX TTS Update.
Is there any way to re-arrange the homescreens. Now that I have screen 1 setup, it's a bummer that I'll need to switch everything over to #3 to get it working. This is what happens when you migrate from a Galaxy S II. Is there an app that lets you switch home screens around? or the like?
Chrome 2 Phone seems to work now. Not sure what my issue was.