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HD7 or MyTouch?

I'm on T-Mobile USA and these two devices are both coming out next month. I've had (and loved) Android since the HTC Magic came out last year. I love the MyTouch for it's FFC and the newest gen procs. However, I'm pretty drawn to the HD7 for it's new OS and large SLCD, however disappointed in lack of FFC (regardless of how little I would realistically use it), and it's first gen procs. It's got the same "guts" as my N1, but it's runs so well from the demos I've seen this week.
Anyone else out there with the same dilemma? Which is better?
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sort of, it has the adreno 205 gpu on it.

predator290 said:
sort of, it has the adreno 205 gpu on it.
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I know the myTouch has it. Are you referring to the HD7? Because if you are and it's true, I think I found my next phone
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hmarcus said:
I'm on T-Mobile USA and these two devices are both coming out next month. I've had (and loved) Android since the HTC Magic came out last year. I love the MyTouch for it's FFC and the newest gen procs. However, I'm pretty drawn to the HD7 for it's new OS and large SLCD, however disappointed in lack of FFC (regardless of how little I would realistically use it), and it's first gen procs. It's got the same "guts" as my N1, but it's runs so well from the demos I've seen this week.
Anyone else out there with the same dilemma? Which is better?
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I am in the same boat as you. I have a nexus one and have loved it, but I am really liking WP7 so far. I believe that with such high minimum specs, the OS will see some nice apps and games in the near future.
I am about 90% sure that I am going to switch, I just have to decide between the HD7 and the Dell pro slide phone.

according to a couple sources the hd7 uses the msm8250 which has the adreno 205 gpu on it. same one as the g2.

diablos991 said:
I am in the same boat as you. I have a nexus one and have loved it, but I am really liking WP7 so far. I believe that with such high minimum specs, the OS will see some nice apps and games in the near future.
I am about 90% sure that I am going to switch, I just have to decide between the HD7 and the Dell pro slide phone.
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Ya the XBL game demos were nice. This and the Zune integration is what draws me to the platform. Since I have an N1 now I haven't been too concerned about updates, however MS will be starting on top of all that is great.
As far as the Dell; I love everything about it especially the gorilla glass, it's just that KB doesn't look like it's worth the added weight and thickness to the phone. However I saw a sign of a FFC on the Dell unbranded VP so that could be interesting.
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There are alot of information flying about.
Someone contacted HTC asking what processor, and was told the MSM processor, though, Microsofts webpage states QSD8250.
Someone else contacted HTC about the screen, and was told it had a standard TFT screen (Slashgear also states this).
At the end of the day, whether or not the myTouch will have a superior CPU doesn't matter by the fact that it runs android, games are written to be compatible with low end android sets, meaning if the myTouch had a tegra, games would still look crap.
The Galaxy S is a good example. It's GPU pushes about 80million triangles per sec, compare this with iPhone4's 28million.... now show me ANY game on Android that looks better than that on iOS? And the thing is I highly doubt there are much, if any, games on iOS that use half of its power. (Epic citadel and an upcoming iOS game called Aralon shows off what the 3GS/iPhone4/iPad can do. Not sure how much triangles/poylgons its pushing tho).
The Adreno200 pushes about 22million, which isn't a big difference compared with the iPhone, so games would be comparable.
There is a rumour that Android 3.0 will bring in minimum hardware requirements to reduce fragmentation, we'll see.

Cruzer1 said:
There are alot of information flying about.
Someone contacted HTC asking what processor, and was told the MSM processor, though, Microsofts webpage states QSD8250.
Someone else contacted HTC about the screen, and was told it had a standard TFT screen (Slashgear also states this).
At the end of the day, whether or not the myTouch will have a superior CPU doesn't matter by the fact that it runs android, games are written to be compatible with low end android sets, meaning if the myTouch had a tegra, games would still look crap.
The Galaxy S is a good example. It's GPU pushes about 80million triangles per sec, compare this with iPhone4's 28million.... now show me ANY game on Android that looks better than that on iOS? And the thing is I highly doubt there are much, if any, games on iOS that use half of its power. (Epic citadel and an upcoming iOS game called Aralon shows off what the 3GS/iPhone4/iPad can do. Not sure how much triangles/poylgons its pushing tho).
The Adreno200 pushes about 22million, which isn't a big difference compared with the iPhone, so games would be comparable.
There is a rumour that Android 3.0 will bring in minimum hardware requirements to reduce fragmentation, we'll see.
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Very true, while I like to think of myself as an HTC/Android fanboy, however I always have to lend Android its faults. Gaming and media are huge and Android more or less fails in these areas. Games are horrid, though Angry Birds is always fun. Games just don't look finished or just look like the crappy 2005 Java versions on like a Moto RAZR. In fact, looking at my apps on my N1, almost all of them are apps just to make my phone run smoother or look better ie setCPU, LCD density changer, ASTRO, Ti Backup etc. That's not to say I don't like games, it's just that there's not too great of a collection when you compare to iOS or the upcoming games for WP7.
And if the HD7 has the G2's proc and an SLCD screen like the Desire HD, it will be even more amazing in my eyes. All I'd want is HSPA+, however, that part is MS's fault.

hmarcus said:
Ya the XBL game demos were nice. This and the Zune integration is what draws me to the platform. Since I have an N1 now I haven't been too concerned about updates, however MS will be starting on top of all that is great.
As far as the Dell; I love everything about it especially the gorilla glass, it's just that KB doesn't look like it's worth the added weight and thickness to the phone. However I saw a sign of a FFC on the Dell unbranded VP so that could be interesting.
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The only concerns I have with the dell is the keyboard quality and thickness. I would have to hold the unit and play around with it first. I really hope that the Hd7 has the updated processor, but I really doubt it will.
All will be revealed soon though.

Same issue with me, I have loved Android for a while now, however WP7 looks so attractive, HSPA+ is not an issue because:
1. My area doesn't have HSPA+
2. T-Mobile states that all devices running standard 3g will also notice a significant improvement to their speeds as well, which is great as well
Really I made up my mind on the HD7, I saw the apps on the zune market and a lot of em weren't that great, however I know I have to wait... I see though that the WP7 marketplace has increased in apps, so I think I might just get the HD7, or try both devices.

I would go with the HD7. Try something new and the games are WP7 are fantastic.
It definitely has its shortcomings, but the most important ones are coming.

Bluetooth Game Gripper

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bossgizmo/new-bluetooth-game-gripper-a-game-pad-for-your-pho
Just found on engadget, and looks nice, so far Supported phones:
We have successfully gotten the Bluetooth Game Gripper working on these devices and will be avidly testing it on more in the coming weeks.
I-phone 4
Ipad
DroidX
HTC Touch Pro II
Nexus one
Nexus S
Motorola Click
Galaxy S tab
With these phones, it does not work with the native bluetooth application or the Blueinput driver but we will continue to try to get them to work using other drivers
HTC Hero
HTC Evo
Samsung Epic
Palm Pixi
Now i just have a question will a custom kernel fix this issue with the bluetooth, or an asop rom?

I can connect my wii remote to my phone using cyanogenmod or miui. So I would thank this would work also.

yeah, I guess, Just pledged and asked the developer to test it out with a cynogen or miui. Hopefully it works, and this baby will be mine.

I would buy one of these for my evo as well.

I can only imagine how ridiculous my TP2 would look in this thing while the slide was open hahaha. It would be pretty convenient for the evo though, a wiimote alone doesn't have enough buttons for fighting games, and plugging in my classic controller just looks silly.

exactly, now if the nook only gets bluetooth.

Eh my wii remote works fine with the classic controller. I poker the remote. I might rig up a little dock for it but this is definitely awesome
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thanks for the heads up, pledged for one, hope they make it to the 30K mark!

Been waiting on something like this, just hope they can get it to work with stock evo.

All i know is that the dev answered my question and tested the evo with cm7, works great video up now.
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[Q] 3D on EVO possible?

I only ask because of the I/O conference boasting of it, and the fact that the iPad 2 just got an app for it. If they had it running on a Xoom, can't we do it with the EVO? Here's the article prompting my question.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/23/i3d-app-brings-glasses-free-3d-to-ios-tracks-your-gaze-like-a-c/

So no dice then? I know this has to be interesting enough to entice some Dev out there. Teamwin? Cm? God?
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Probably not

I wouldn't think so just because the 3d screen is higher resolution than the evolution...
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FYI it's not actually 3D in the same way that the evo 3D's or the 3DS's screen is. It's a 2D screen, it just uses the front camera to track your face and renders the image on the display accordingly. Basically a glorified wiimote, it is not a stereoscopic display.
That said, it could definitely be done on the evo, the only issues I could see would be ones of having enough horsepower to do that sort of image processing and analysis and then rendering graphics at a decent framerate.

Right, but the only difference is that the processor on the EVO 4G is single core as opposed to dual. Both are 1GHZ. The only application that I would really want it for are movies anyways. What else would you guys use it for?
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I played with a 3DS at Best Buy and was very unimpressed with the 3D. It looked 3D INSIDE the screen but nothing appeared to project out in 3D. If that's how it's supposed to be I'm unimpressed. Maybe the "3D" wasn't turned on, but it did have a 3D effect like those cards you rotate to make a moving 3D-like image.

The 3DS is not actually 3D. It uses the camera to produce augmented reality(AR), basically objects pasted over the live camera image. There are AR apps available for most phones now.
It would be possible to produce the same effect as the idevice app on the EVO, but it will not be like the EVO 3D. Give devs some time!

I wasn't expecting it to be like the evo 3D. I, like most of you just would like to see where the capabilities end with the EVO.
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iwantyourskulls said:
The 3DS is not actually 3D. It uses the camera to produce augmented reality(AR), basically objects pasted over the live camera image. There are AR apps available for most phones now.
It would be possible to produce the same effect as the idevice app on the EVO, but it will not be like the EVO 3D. Give devs some time!
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That's not actually true, the 3DS is an actual autostereoscopic display, see here for information on how that works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostereoscopy
For it to work though, you need a special type of screen with a parallax barrier in it.
The app demonstrated in the OP's article would do literally nothing for movies.

Why wouldn't it do anything for movies?
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Because it's no different from watching a movie on your computer screen. It's not a 3D display.
The "3D" is created by a 3D engine, like the one that video games use. It's 3D, but it's not stereoscopic 3D. Let's say that you were playing Call of Duty, or any other FPS shooter. It's playing in a 3D engine, but it's not actually stereoscopic 3D when you play it on your normal computer monitor or your normal TV.
In order to have stereoscopic 3D, you need to either have special glasses or a special screen. The ipad and 90% of most portable devices don't have screens that are stereoscopic-capable.

lol, most posters in this thread know jack **** about 3D.

What jesus dude said.
You could create apps that "produce" 3D graphics, but it takes a lot of computing horsepower to make something appear 3D on a 2D screen. I took a class on 3D graphics on computers back in the day. Trust me, it's not worth the dev time for a phone that's going to begin it's golden years in the very near future.

Hey that was the whole reason for this thread: to ask the question.
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Icontrolpad used as xperia play controls

Recently I got my EVO 3d as an upgrade from my old milestone. One of the phones I looked at was the xpeeria play and that was £10 a month on buymobilephones.net. but I didn't go for that because i thought the EVO 3s is better.
I also found out about the icontrolpad which seems to have similar buttons to the xperia play. Would it be possible to set up the icontrolpad so that on xperia play optimized games like modern combat 2 I can use the analogue sticks for movement and camera like the xperia play.
I had an app which set up Bluetooth controllers as buttons on the keyboard but i don't think that will work.
Anyone have a clue?
Maybe sixaxis will work with the icontrolpad? I don't want to buy it yet because I have to say it is hideously expensive
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Bump...anyone?
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Bumpy bump bump. Anyome
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I have one of these, and, thus far, it does not emulate the xperia. Bluez IME is hoping to add this support in the future, but there is no ETA for it.
However, I can say that, for the games that do support it (and pretty much all of the emulators do), it is a seriously excellent accessory.
I got mine from ThinkGeek, as it was cheaper than paying for it and having it shipped from the UK.

So, after playing around with it further over the holidays, it does, in fact, support (most) xperia games.
I'm having trouble getting the nubs working 100% though, so YMMV.

carnagecjb said:
So, after playing around with it further over the holidays, it does, in fact, support (most) xperia games.
I'm having trouble getting the nubs working 100% though, so YMMV.
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Likewise here. I couldn't get the buttons right
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[APP] Splashtop HD on Nexus7

Anyone tried it out yet, or would be willing to try it out, or think it will work with the n7? If so, could this be the best option(?) for media for those with the 8gb model. I plan on trying it out when I get mine.
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Yeah, I'm very interested in this also. Another reason I am not too worried about being limited to 8GB. It would be great if someone who has access to a Nexus 7 could test this out and share their experience with it, if not I will probably just buy it and check it out myself when I finally get mine. I'm interested to see how well it works for basic tasks, gaming, and watching videos/movies. My ultimate dream would be to stream my Xbox 360 games to a tablet like this, and play something like MW3 on the go.

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Yeah, I'm very interested in this also. Another reason I am not too worried about being limited to 8GB. It would be great if someone who has access to a Nexus 7 could test this out and share their experience with it, if not I will probably just buy it and check it out myself when I finally get mine. I'm interested to see how well it works for basic tasks, gaming, and watching videos/movies. My ultimate dream would be to stream my Xbox 360 games to a tablet like this, and play something like MW3 on the go.
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I agree.. I downloaded PLEX and it's been keeping me looking for more.. I wonder if Splashtop HD will support JB and how long it will be discounted 8.99 (usually 19.99) in the play store.. I hope until the n7 delivers

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you can delete this thread..there is a more in depth thread about the same app..

Splash top HD is listed as not compatible with the nexus 7 but the regular splash top is. Also there's a splash top two coming out for android soon. I think I will get this with my credit but I want the kinks to be worked out first.
Anyone try it already?

I'll try loading up my backup from my tab when its comes next week
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What's the difference between the HD version and the regular version? I can't really find anything on their website or from Play Store (other than "optimization" for Android 3.x or 4.x tablets).

As far as I can tell the regular splash top is designed for smaller screens.
I wouldn't mind buying this as long as it is still on sale when they have made it compatible
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Afaik hd users will be getting free lifetime subscription to the new version when it comes out (at least they are doing that for ipad people). I got an email about it since I own the standard version. Seems like otherwise it's like 1.99 for the app and 9 dollars a year, which still isn't terrible.

i got the free version from amazon when it was the free app of the day!! cant wait to try it out

That's what I have. It works well and looks good to me streaming movies. That's one reason I was wondering what the HD added.
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The non hd version is going to be upgraded to version 2
I have just bought it as it works on my phone as well
Will test it on the n7 later on
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I just bought the THD version and I can't seem to get it to work on my Nexus 7. The regular HD version works great though. I emailed them regarding this. Anyone else tried the THD version?

F0l3ert said:
I just bought the THD version and I can't seem to get it to work on my Nexus 7. The regular HD version works great though. I emailed them regarding this. Anyone else tried the THD version?
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I was curious to try it out but the hd version doesn't even show up in the play store on my n7

The regular version seems to work, THD gives me a black screen when trying to remote connect, I'm going to email support and see if there is something in the works, because I am unsure if I need to grab the THD version or the HD.

mastarifla said:
The regular version seems to work, THD gives me a black screen when trying to remote connect, I'm going to email support and see if there is something in the works, because I am unsure if I need to grab the THD version or the HD.
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I'm also getting a black screen on my Nexus 7. It is connected because touches on the nexus translate to the comp, it's just not displaying the video on the Nexus screen.
I'd love for them to get the THD version working. Playing big PC games on smaller devices was always one of the most exciting potentials of Splashtop, and the fact that they support bluetooth controllers and special screen overlays in the THD version is awesome.
It's especially silly because the Tegra tablets they made this version for probably didn't sell at all, but here's the Nexus, which has the potential to sell a whole lot and it doesn't work on it. =(
If anyone gets a response from Splashtop please post it here.

Darthus said:
I'm also getting a black screen on my Nexus 7. It is connected because touches on the nexus translate to the comp, it's just not displaying the video on the Nexus screen.
I'd love for them to get the THD version working. Playing big PC games on smaller devices was always one of the most exciting potentials of Splashtop, and the fact that they support bluetooth controllers and special screen overlays in the THD version is awesome.
It's especially silly because the Tegra tablets they made this version for probably didn't sell at all, but here's the Nexus, which has the potential to sell a whole lot and it doesn't work on it. =(
If anyone gets a response from Splashtop please post it here.
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I had emailed Splashtop about the fact that the Anywhere access for free is available for any of the Splashtop "vets", they said that the new feature is unavailable currently for Android, however "we will provide the original SPlashtop Android user the free AAP feature. Please stay tuned, it's coming soon!"

So I guess this means that v2 for HD will be compatible w/the N7? Because it's still listed as incompatible as of this posting...

so should i buy hd now or wait to its compatible? because i already have the normal splashtop from amazon.