i have a stock 2.2 desire that is just rooted with superuser will this effect the updates that will come from htc ? if lets say they give us android 2.3 can i update my phone to it with the root ? im fine if the root is gown
but can i update my phone ?? that is my question thank you a lot
ps: i did search and i didnt find the answer i want
If you are rooted and install ota updates, you will loose your root access.
MatDrOiD said:
If you are rooted and install ota updates, you will loose your root access.
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thanks a lot this is what i wanted to know i could update my phone ota even if i just have root thank you
Your rom may also have a FOTA kill app which will stop OTA updates, so you may have to search the internet for them? Check in /system/app.
stringer7 said:
Your rom may also have a FOTA kill app which will stop OTA updates, so you may have to search the internet for them? Check in /system/app.
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He needs to be s-off to delete system apps (so apps in /system/app), and i guess he is not.
But one could do it with adb:
http://android.modaco.com/content/h...apps-from-the-htc-desire-with-adb-in-windows/
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Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
zljk said:
Hi,
What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.
Thanks.
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That will never happen with the GN. When you own this phone you're first in line for the updates until the next is coming out then you're second but still faster than the others.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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If my experiences with my OG Droid match up with the Nexus line, if you've only rooted and haven't actually installed another ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update and lose root because of it. Then just root again.
martonikaj said:
When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
zljk said:
I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....
Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
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The alternate way to get official Nexus updates is to download the update zip file once someone copies it off their device and uploads it, and install it in whatever fashion works.
I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
TulpiX said:
You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?
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It will often download and you can try but it will either fail, unroot you, or cause troubles.
You're best off applying the pre-rooted update, or unrooting and taking the OTA.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
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True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
blunden said:
True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.
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Of course, as is often the case for most phones supported here on XDA. the rooted OTA comes in the form of a .zip soon after it comes out.
slowz3r said:
you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
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When flashing the rooted OTA via recovery, does it wipe the phone (apps and all)?
Also for the other method, when unrooting >> applying OTA >> rooting again, does it wipe the phone at any point during this process?
Help would be appreciated and rewarded!
I just received my OTA update notification and found the update zip itself in the cache of my phone. I can post that update zip here if a mod can come along and tell me where to put it. I am going to wait till I'm home so I can have my rooting facilities handy before starting.
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I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.
The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.
I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.
Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
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+1. Exactly.
There is a lot of wrong (or slightly incorrect) information in this thread.
Have root has no impact whatsoever in your ability to receive or apply the OTA update. This has been the case on every Android device. However, if you have a custom recovery flashed, you will not be able to automatically apply the update - you will have to find the zip file in the cache and use your custom recovery to apply it.
On a slightly separate note, once you apply the update either automatically or manually via custom recovery, you will lose root. However, if you do have a custom recovery, as long as you flash ChainsDD's superuser package immediately after applying the update, but before rebooting, you will retain root.
On another separate not, if you flash the update as is from Google, it includes a file (/system/recovery-from-boot.p) that re-flashes the stock recovery on every boot, so you will lose your custom recovery. Either remove the file before flashing the update, or just re-flash your custom recovery.
Hello all,
I am a happy WFS user, with S-off, CWM, rooted, link2sd with ext3 partition.
I installed stock rom europe 2.13.401.3 recently and now I receive the message that a new update is available for the phone. I downloaded with Wi-fi bu when it tried to install it I have a screen with a white triangle with a yellow exclamation mark inside. Removing the battery and restarting everything is fine.
Do you know why it is not working? What is the update about? can I get it somewhere else?
I checked in the stock ROM list and the last version is still 2.13.401.3.
Thank you for your help.
Personally, I wouldn't suggest you to do the OTA since you have an S-OFF. You could brick your phone.
Why not try any of these fast and beautiful custom ROM's?
Don't update! You can't root it.
Well you can install superuser but no root apps get granted permision.
Trust me.
intel007 said:
Don't update! You can't root it.
Well you can install superuser but no root apps get granted permision.
Trust me.
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but the update comes with hboot 1.09.0099, an unlockable hboot. so it shouldn't be that problematic.
thank you for your help guys. I won't take the risk, I've disabled the updates . I didn't know it was dangerous, I thought I was safe with stock ROM.
I found the .zip file downloaded for the update and apparently it is the 2.14 firmware.
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thank you for your help guys. I won't take the risk, I've disabled the updates . I didn't know it was dangerous, I thought I was safe with stock ROM.
I found the .zip file downloaded for the update and apparently it is the 2.14 firmware.
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Please upload (on 2shared.com for example) or provide a link to the zip file
Sure, is there anything I should delete inside the .zip for my privacy before uploading?
maestro_mihagi said:
Sure, is there anything I should delete inside the .zip for my privacy before uploading?
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nope, the update is standard. please upload the zip file (from sd card, I assume). thank you.
The reason you did not get the update to work is that it requires the stock recovery to flash it. That big exclamation mark is the phone saying that the stock radio is not there and it doesn't know what to do. If you flash the update like you would a rom I would imagine you would be fine but best check the files inside First. Worst case scenario your rom stops working, and at minimum you'll lose root.
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This is the update:
rapidshare.com/files/2103640035/OTA_Marvel_S_HTC_Europe_2.14.401.1-2.13.401.3_release_246828bqvnfs0scxz4qj5d.zip
can't update,only htc unlock,can't s-off
Okay, I was on ICS 4.0.4 Yakju build. I flashed it using Gnex tool kit and then rooted the phone as well. Also left the bootloaded unlocked.
Today I received the OTA 4.1.1 Jelly Bean update. I began with the procedure and it downloaded well and good but then the installation was interrupted and the phone booted into my old 4.0.4 version. As it turns out, you should not accept the OTA update if you're rooted (lucky, I got away with it). I dont exactly know what caused my installation to fail, the root or the unlocked bootloader or both. Anyway, I used Gnex Tool Kit and 'Flashed the Google Factory Stock Rom' (exactly the same way how I got the yakju 4.0.4 build in the first place) , that left my phone with just as new Stock 4.0.4, UNROOTED with locked bootloader! Just like out of the box. Then I went on with my OTA update and it went through like a charm.
Anyway, now I'm on 4.1.1 Jelly Bean. I want to root the phone because I use too many apps that requires root access. So the latest version of Gnex Tool Kit (7.4) supports Jelly Bean root. But I dont wanna Root my phone this time unless I know how to UnRoot it. Don't wanna go against OTAs. (might start using CM rom when the next android version comes out) but till then I only want OTA updates.
So, can anyone tell me how to UNROOT the 4.1.1 Jelly Bean? (without wipe or deleting all the data) It'll be awesome if it can be done by Gnext Tool Kit. If not, then I dont mind doing it the hard way.
I wanted to post this question in 'Gnext toolkit' forum but I dont have enough privileges. So please help me out
As you can see I'm a noob. So please excuse my ignorance :/
Thanks a lot
Nobody? Please anyone help
Well root and your bootloader status (unlocked or not) really shouldn't affect your ability to receive an OTA IIRC. It should still work successfully although you may lose root.
Anywho, to unroot all you have to do is delete the 'superuser' application whether it be Superuser or SuperSu and then delete 'su' in /system/bin. That should work though IMO the cleanest way to unroot is to just restore the stock images.
Unlawful said:
Anywho, to unroot all you have to do is delete the 'superuser' application whether it be Superuser or SuperSu and then delete 'su' in /system/bin. That should work though IMO the cleanest way to unroot is to just restore the stock images.
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Well, I guess you cant uninstall SuperUser. I tried that before updating but it acts like a system app and you cant delete it, unless you have 'System app remover' software, but then again it needs Root access to work so the whole thing is pointless I guess
And restore stock image HOW? I mean can you elaborate a lil please!
Using Gnex Tool Kit, which option? (my guess, 'Flash Google Factory Stock Rom' cuz for me it works but it wipes all your data.. backup solution?)
Super su has an unroot option
Here's a screenshot attached
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Super su has an unroot option
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Hey thanks
But does it work on Jelly Bean?? Also, when you Root Gnex using ToolKit then you have SuperUser and not SuperSU :| Whats the way around it?
tojonegi said:
Hey thanks
But does it work on Jelly Bean?? Also, when you Root Gnex using ToolKit then you have SuperUser and not SuperSU :| Whats the way around it?
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Installing supersu and giving it root access to update such binary removes original superuser apps control you can switch just by downloading super su so it should work, cannot test myself though
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Niallfitzy1 said:
Installing supersu and giving it root access to update such binary removes original superuser apps control you can switch just by downloading super su so it should work, cannot test myself though
Hit thanks if I helped
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Okay thanks, I'm gonna try this ^^
Hope it works well in the future while receiving OTA updates
P.S. I'd already hit Thanks
I root my g3. Can i unroot (if can, how?)? When will be update over the OTA, can i update if i have root (then i lose root?)?
I know this is stupid for you, but.....
Someone? I read that some people have problem doing ota when phone was rooted
see the link in my signature
Do you know, after root can i do update over ota?
BrunoSlivar said:
Do you know, after root can i do update over ota?
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You will need to Un-Root then update, then Re-Root.
What will be if i do update (if that can be done) over ota with still i have root?
BrunoSlivar said:
What will be if i do update (if that can be done) over ota with still i have root?
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It cannot be done currently.
Lets say I want to update to a new version (Android L) when Samsung (if they ever bother) deploy it, I want to know if OTA will still work? I am only going to remove bloatware not flash any other rom.
Add to this I can't boot on download mode... it keeps looping the boot screen.
Thanks in advance.
AFAIK OTA doesn't work once you have rooted
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AFAIK OTA doesn't work once you have rooted
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That's not entirely true. Specifically rooting does not block an OTA but usually you'll loose root when an OTA is applied. SuperSU includes a method to preserve root through an OTA. The reason most OTAs cannot be applied after rooting is because they check specific apps and if any have been tampered with or are missing the OTA aborts. Of course most of the reasons that you root is to "tamper" with the stock ROM so it's a catch 22 situation. You could root then add an app for some specific functionality and still apply an OTA.
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