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[Q] Root gone wrong, my screen is blank [non branded HTC Desire]

Hey guys!
Now this happened for some time ago because i switched phone to my blackberry in anger over the brick of the Desire, and i can't remember exactly this happened!
I think i rooted it and then the screen suddently went blank when i started it.
Now i searched the web for looooong time, and also some threads in here, to find my golden answer - but nothing hat helped yet. But i got a wierd feeling in my stomach that i'm doing something wrong.
So since i can't do it myself i decided to wright to you, and hope that helps!
My HTC Desire is not branded.- at least im pretty sure it isn't!! There is no place it's physically branded. And it's bought in Denmark, and i don't think we've got branded phones here as in UK and USA
I've tried this guide because i saw some people had succes with it:
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You don't need to root or do anything unusual in order to apply the FroYo update, you only need that for custom recovery. It's not impossible to do with a broken screen, just do this:
1. Make sure the update.zip file is on your goldcard and correctly named.
2. Take the battery out first to ensure the phone is powered off. Then hold vol down and press the power button, and hold vol down for about 5 seconds. That will get you into the bootloader even though you can't see it.
3. Press vol down once. This will select recovery.
4. Press the power button once. This will start the recovery. The phone will vibrate briefly.
5. Wait 20 seconds or so. Then press vol up and the power button and wait a few seconds. You'll now be in system recovery.
6. Press vol down once to select 'apply sdcard:update.zip'.
7. Press the power button once to start the recovery.'' QUOTE END.
But nothing happens.
And i also tried Unrevoked3, but neither did that helped, it got stock at ''Waiting for root... (safe to restart if this doesn't work)''
I would really appreciate if you would take your time to help me today! Because i really want my HTC Desire back, because it is a really sweet phone after all
I know you guys are much more wiser to this than me, so i hope you got at magical form to solve this out.

So... when you boot holding the vol down key what happens?

Well the tricky part about it is that i can't see anything! But if i go into boot (atleast i think i do) i can push VOL- and then Power button, and then it vibrates briefly, so i think it's going in to recovery.

Right, try this...
Download this RUU (2.29.405.5):
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Turn the phone off (remove the battery to be sure) and turn it on holding the BACK button. Hold back for about 5-10 seconds to be sure you're in FASTBOOT. Connect to the PC and assuming the drivers are installed wait a further 20 seconds
Then run the RUU. If you're unbranded it will install and should get you back up and running. If it completes and you still can't see anything the screen is dead and will need replacing

So what happens when you turn it on normally, vibrates and then you can't see anything? Maybe try this thread.

@EddyOS
Thank you!
I'm going to try the FASTBOOT right now! - i have slow internet, so i assume it's gonna take while to download the RUU - but i'll response the results here as quick as i can.
@TheGhost1233
Nothing happens, but i can see that there is light in the screen, because it turns slightly light-darker.
Also when i powered up the phone i can lock it up with my fingers and still use my touch, so it's not the ''touch'' function that there is broken.

touch is seperate to the screen anyway, lets hope its not a hardware fault and can be fixed! post your results

I'm trying with another RUU i have - while im downloading the on you've linked to - 8RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.09.405.8_Radio_32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20_release_140022_signed is the one i'm trying with right now.
When i start the desire with holder down Volume (DOWN) and Power button for 5 seconds, and then plug the phone into USB there comes an jingle on my computer(which always appears when connecting any phone) but then it wont find more.
I can't see the device in ''My computer'' ?
And i get the ERROR [170] Connecting Error?

That's an old RUU so use the one I linked to

This is what i'm doing now:
Volume- and power in 5 seconds.
Plug the USB cable to the phone. (Now i can hear ''dy-dy'' from my computer, which means that my computer has detected a hardware. BUT i can't find the phone's SD Card in ''My computer'' - should i could do this?
But in my Applications i can find it under ''Special applications'' - i think i will translate i too - as ''Android 1.0''.
Now i run the RUU which you've linked to, but then i geat Connectin Error 170.
hmm?

You should be holding BACK, not volume down, when you turn it on as you need to be in FASTBOOT not HBOOT to run an RUU

Lol okay, i feel like a morron now, sorry for not have seen this.
But i still get the error 170, usb connection error!
Do i need to install HTC Sync? I've uninstalled it for the sake of unrevoked3.
And is there another way to do this? Over the phone exclusively maybe - if my USB connection fails all the time.

No you don't need HTC Sync. Sounds like you've USB-bricked the phone. You could try extracting out the PB99IMG.zip from the RUU and flash it that way but as you can't see what you're doing it's hard

And how can i see which HBOOT i got? Just want to check regarding to this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498

Haven't a clue, doens't matter as the RUU I posted is the newest one so will work regardless

Oh, okay.
Well i'm trying to flash PB99IMG now. I'm just hoping im doing it right allthough i can't see anything.
I'm doing as following: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucBs9RVGL0w

You don't flash it like a custom ROM. You get the PB99IMG.zip from the ROM, copy it to the root of the SD card and then turn on into HBOOT. The phone will then find it and ask if you want to flash it - say yes and that's it!

Oh okay. Just from the ROM you've linked to me?
And can you remember how to say yes, just power button?

Normally it says press up for to continue but I can't remember off the top of my head
EDIT: Yep, volume up to start

Thanks mate, i'll keep on trying various of thing.

Cyanogen Mod stuck at splash screen after flashing

Just a quick post to all of you who are having this issue. This may be a repost, but I'll give the solution anyway.
If you have this issue after flashing Cyanogen Mod 6.1 or 7 just perform these simple steps to correct it.
First (if you haven't already), remove your battery, it won't hurt anything.
Second, replace the battery, hold down the volume down bottom and press the power button once.
(You may release the volume button once the bootloader screen appears)
Third, wait until it checks the MicroSD card for an update file, then using the volume down button, highlight "Clear Storage" and hit the power button once.
Once it reboots Cyanogen should load right up. Hope this helps someone!

Just wanted to say I believe its volume down + power to access the bootloader. Hope this helps.

k_nivesout said:
Just wanted to say I believe its volume down + power to access the bootloader. Hope this helps.
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Your absolutely correct! That was my mistake. Thanks for the warning.

No problem. Good info to know though. I've never really had any problems with CM7 but I've wondering if clearing data in bootloader as opposed to recovery might work as well.

k_nivesout said:
No problem. Good info to know though. I've never really had any problems with CM7 but I've wondering if clearing data in bootloader as opposed to recovery might work as well.
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I know a lot of people have had this problem. But not all, I guess its subjective.
But I have definitely had this problem, both with version 6.1 and with 7.
I love the Cyanogen Mod! What a difference that makes with Android.
The main reason I switched was because I wanted ad-hoc network options.
I soon realized it was so much more than that though!

kernel>panic said:
Just a quick post to all of you who are having this issue. This may be a repost, but I'll give the solution anyway.
If you have this issue after flashing Cyanogen Mod 6.1 or 7 just perform these simple steps to correct it.
First (if you haven't already), remove your battery, it won't hurt anything.
Second, replace the battery, hold down the volume down bottom and press the power button once.
(You may release the volume button once the bootloader screen appears)
Third, wait until it checks the MicroSD card for an update file, then using the volume down button, highlight "Clear Storage" and hit the power button once.
Once it reboots Cyanogen should load right up. Hope this helps someone!
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I have followed these instructions but it either takes me back to the HTC Incredible splash screen (and hangs again) or to a Clockwork menu (black background with orange text). Either way my Incredible is still not booting back up. Help?

nosey313 said:
I have followed these instructions but it either takes me back to the HTC Incredible splash screen (and hangs again) or to a Clockwork menu (black background with orange text). Either way my Incredible is still not booting back up. Help?
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I'll be glad to help you. I don't have an Incredible anymore, but this is fairly universal.
Okay, so what have you done so far, give me the steps you used to flash CM.
Also what version of Clockwork and Cyanogen Mod are you using?

Do i need to wipe before flashing rom?
I have tried miui and CM7 both and after it gets down it gets stuck running the bootloader image. I just got the phone rooted and want to try a rom out, but i am having troubles...

Is good Rom cyanogen?,have htc sense 3.5?

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Q] messed up DHD :(

Hello Guys....
i have a really bad situation and i think it might get worse, i got my phone few weeks ago and it was running 2.3.3 later i got the OTA update to 2.3.5
then i wanted to root and found that the best tool is AAHK i downloaded and ran it and it asked for downgrade since my version is 3.13.415 and i agreed.. at the end of the process where it should update and i should hit "power to restart" didn't come up, thought there was nothing working and the menu just was still, so i tried to restart it from the menu. so i got the htc logo and it just froze there i tried to restart over and over again, yet no luck and i noticed the s-on thing and googled alot and found that i should flash a stock rom to get it running so i went to site called shipped roms and got one and tried to install it, but the installer said the rom isn't compatible or somethin....and i remmebered getting one from another rooting guied so i tried flashing it and it worked, but it took about 15 minutes for the device to boot up and the first vibe took about 10 minutes to finish but eventually it worked and the version i got on the phone was 2.2 but without arabic language "something i want" but it was okay, now i was a bit curios about the AAHK menu so i started it and it just started working :$ :S that's something i didn't want to happen but i was scared to pull the cable and it restarted to the "black screen with htc logo" and the tool saying "INFOsignature checking"...
sooooo is there any ideas about what can and should i do, how can i make everything back to normal or anythin
please make it fast, i really can't wait any longer
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After about 20 minutes of waiting i had no nerve left for waiting so now i took the usb cable and took the battery out and re installed it and hit power and while i'm writing the update it's viberating and it just stopped and waiting for the "quitly briliant" hope it works
it did (sorry if i nag to much and keep updating with every second)
now guys i really don't want to root or s-off or anythin... i just want to get my DHD fully up and ruunin
will the OTA update fix everything (the boot-up thing ?) and i want to get arabic language installed-how to do that
please help me
thx

hello guys...
since no one replied to my post, and i'm not that patient (not blaming anyone thought)
i do want to help others and i just can't keep asking.. so i'm trying it my self and in the mean time i've hit update and the phone shut off and took it's time to start up, as usual and now i'm looking at the update screen(black background with update loge and progress bar) and now it just finished and the screen went fully black-waiting and it is taking its time-... i'll update as soon as i get anythin
wish me good

SpiritStealer said:
hello guys...
since no one replied to my post, and i'm not that patient (not blaming anyone thought)
i do want to help others and i just can't keep asking.. so i'm trying it my self and in the mean time i've hit update and the phone shut off and took it's time to start up, as usual and now i'm looking at the update screen(black background with update loge and progress bar) and now it just finished and the screen went fully black-waiting and it is taking its time-... i'll update as soon as i get anythin
wish me good
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Doing a software update on a rooted phone will only revert the ROM to stock one. Key is patience. There is NO WAY at all that AAHK would mess something up on its own. I know this for a fact since I have used it to root 8 other DHD's so far without any issues. If you are not sure how it works then read more. You probably pulled the usb out before AAHK finished proper the first time.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

djolebih said:
Doing a software update on a rooted phone will only revert the ROM to stock one. Key is patience. There is NO WAY at all that AAHK would mess something up on its own. I know this for a fact since I have used it to root 8 other DHD's so far without any issues. If you are not sure how it works then read more. You probably pulled the usb out before AAHK finished proper the first time.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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thx for ur reply
and about the AAHK actually it's not my thing in the mean time, now i just want my default DHD back (stock rom, arabic, normal boot-up)
as i said i was applying the update and now i'm stock at the updating screen (black background htc update logo with a phone under it)
i mentioned the progress bar before but it was (i think) about moving the update to the sd card
now after about hour or so i'm still stuck at the same update state, even when i removed the battery and restarted the phone i'm still back to the same screen with nothing more..... hope u can help me with anything that can make my phone boot-up again ( no matter what's the version-in the mean time-)
thx in advanced
sry for my english..

SpiritStealer said:
thx for ur reply
and about the AAHK actually it's not my thing in the mean time, now i just want my default DHD back (stock rom, arabic, normal boot-up)
as i said i was applying the update and now i'm stock at the updating screen (black background htc update logo with a phone under it)
i mentioned the progress bar before but it was (i think) about moving the update to the sd card
now after about hour or so i'm still stuck at the same update state, even when i removed the battery and restarted the phone i'm still back to the same screen with nothing more..... hope u can help me with anything that can make my phone boot-up again ( no matter what's the version-in the mean time-)
thx in advanced
sry for my english..
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Looks to me like you bricked your phone. Remove the battery for a few minutes and put it back in. Do NOT turn the phone on but instead hold down Volume down + Power and see if you can boot into Hboot. It should lead you to a white screen with skateboarding androids. Post here everything it says there.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

djolebih said:
Looks to me like you bricked your phone. Remove the battery for a few minutes and put it back in. Do NOT turn the phone on but instead hold down Volume down + Power and see if you can boot into Hboot. It should lead you to a white screen with skateboarding androids. Post here everything it says there.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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i'll try to get in there, but if i have a bricked phone... is there anyway to fix it(just give me a -yes/no- answer) for now.... i'll rebort as soon as i get into the hboot screen(hopefully)
btw i removed my sd card an out it in a card reader, and i couldn't access it, do u think it got anythin to do with it ??

If you are unable to enter hboot then sadly there is no return and your phone is gone. Hold down power + vol down for as long as it takes until it hopefully takes you into hboot.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

mmmmmmmm, for the SD card i was able to get back in
and i tried to enter the hboot(but my finger slipet for split second) and i'll try againg
but on the other hand... don't u think that since i'm getting to the update screen that there might be a slice of hope for me ??

mmmmmmmm, for the SD card i was able to get back in
and i tried to enter the hboot(but my finger slipet for split second) and i'll try againg
but on the other hand... don't u think that since i'm getting to the update screen that there might be a slice of hope for me ??

Not if its constantly stuck on the update screen without any progress. Do as I said, boot into hboot holding power + vol down keys until it boots. Write what it says there. If you can't get into hboot... Game over.
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hmmmmmmmm
i dont really think that i'm able to get into hboot anymore, i'll keep trying thought
do u recommend (sd card in/out- cable in/out) or anything u can think of
and please give me some hope anythin would be great in the mean time.... really disprate

SpiritStealer said:
hmmmmmmmm
i dont really think that i'm able to get into hboot anymore, i'll keep trying thought
do u recommend (sd card in/out- cable in/out) or anything u can think of
and please give me some hope anythin would be great in the mean time.... really disprate
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As I said before, if you can't boot into hboot then sorry but I don't know of any other solution. Maybe someone else can provide better explanation, but as far as I know, if you are constantly stuck on update screen and if you can't get into hboot at all then nothing else can be done.

djolebih said:
As I said before, if you can't boot into hboot then sorry but I don't know of any other solution. Maybe someone else can provide better explanation, but as far as I know, if you are constantly stuck on update screen and if you can't get into hboot at all then nothing else can be done.
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i found something called hard reset -i'll give it a try- do u think that it might help ? (hope it does)
this is how i found it's done.....
1) Firstly you have to turn off your device and after that hold the volume + and volume – button together.
2) Continue pressing both the buttons and after sometime hold the power button for some time.
3) Once you have pressed the three buttons you will get the message about the change in the factory settings and also to keep a backup of the data.
4) After the message is displayed leave all the buttons then press the volume + button to start with the hard reset operation.
5) After doing this the reset operation will be carried out and all the data will be permanently removed.
do u have any info about it ???

SpiritStealer said:
i found something called hard reset -i'll give it a try- do u think that it might help ? (hope it does)
this is how i found it's done.....
1) Firstly you have to turn off your device and after that hold the volume + and volume – button together.
2) Continue pressing both the buttons and after sometime hold the power button for some time.
3) Once you have pressed the three buttons you will get the message about the change in the factory settings and also to keep a backup of the data.
4) After the message is displayed leave all the buttons then press the volume + button to start with the hard reset operation.
5) After doing this the reset operation will be carried out and all the data will be permanently removed.
do u have any info about it ???
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The only option of Factory Reset I know of is through hboot. And if you cant boot there then I really can't help you.
Are you sure you did it properly? Turn the phone off, remove battery for a few minutes, put it back in. Then Press POWER + VOLUME DOWN and hold for about 10-15 seconds. That should take you into hboot and from there you can see if your phone is S-OFF and do a factory reset.

I think that you are to nervous now
just pull out the battery, put it back in..
hold VOL - (minus, down) and press the power for about 3-4 sec, than release only power button.
if that don't get you to white hboot screen than nicely take the phone to your dealer and ask for waranty.. tell them that it got stuck on OTA update

Thanx Lord.

djolebih said:
The only option of Factory Reset I know of is through hboot. And if you cant boot there then I really can't help you.
Are you sure you did it properly? Turn the phone off, remove battery for a few minutes, put it back in. Then Press POWER + VOLUME DOWN and hold for about 10-15 seconds. That should take you into hboot and from there you can see if your phone is S-OFF and do a factory reset.
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the main problem that stopping me the most is the long time that the phone takes to boot up, i mean that if i try to start the phone it will take about 10 minutes to get to the update screen where it stops there
so holding them for 15 seconds is somethin that i think will do me no good result or actually no result at all ..... do u recommend pluging the usb in/out or anythin like that..... i know that i'm asking to much from you, but please bear with me and should i move the thread to another section in this case so i can get more help.....
please stick with me a little
really thx for your help

no use of plugging/unplugging the phone...
just do what I've posted above

SpiritStealer said:
the main problem that stopping me the most is the long time that the phone takes to boot up, i mean that if i try to start the phone it will take about 10 minutes to get to the update screen where it stops there
so holding them for 15 seconds is somethin that i think will do me no good result or actually no result at all ..... do u recommend pluging the usb in/out or anythin like that..... i know that i'm asking to much from you, but please bear with me and should i move the thread to another section in this case so i can get more help.....
please stick with me a little
really thx for your help
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There is no point in connecting usb or anything else to the phone. Do as both Lord and I have said and write down what it says in the hboot once you get in. Booting into hboot is not the same as normal boot. Don't try to act smarter then people that are trying to help you.
Edit: Don't move the thread.

ok guys, trying it and really thx...i'll report as soon as i get anything

Defy stuck at Android Logo screen!!!

Hello guys,
My defy is stuck at the android logo thingy It goes through red M logo but is stuck at that android logo. My defy(MB525) is rooted. I havent installed any custom roms or anything of that kind(plan to learn and do that later when I am done with my final exams). Just simple root(so that I could take screenshots and stuff)! I tried removing the battery and restarting it...But didnt help. After a while the device got unusually hot so i removed the battery and kept the piece aside! I am not able to figure out what wrong happened in the first place( The phone was lagging so I tried to restart it..usually works fine)..:/
I am very new to this stuff. Can somebody help me to fix this?
Cheers,
Roshan

It's stuck on the android with the exclamation mark? (this one)
If so, then press both volume buttons at the same if your phone is on Gingerbread for the menu to show up.
If you are on Froyo, then the menu should show up after pressing buttons below the screen or lower parts of the screen (never could quite figure it out).
The menu that shows up is Android Recovery (or Android stock recovery). Try doing a "wipe cache" and then rebooting. If it goes back into the same menu, then "wipe data" should solve it. That will delete all your settings, but don't worry about your pictures and stuff, it's all on the memory card, as you know.
Anyways, what did you use to root it? This shouldn't have happened, really :S

Yes it worked!!
niksy+!!!
Dude it worked.:victory: I had to factory reset the whole thing(data+cache) but I really don't mind its totally okay! I am very very grateful for your timely help and you just saved my ass(My dad would have been really pissed)! Thank you so much!:good::highfive:
I am still on froyo for now!
And just for your information(since you were not sure) tapping the lower portion of the screen didn't work. I was trying various combinations...and that menu appeared. The combination(after the exclamation mark appears on the screen) that worked is volume up down. One has to to press volume up and down, up and down till the menu appears!
I used to SuperOneClick to root.. apparently the root is still preserved(I thought the device will unroot itself when I factory reset it)! Why do you think there was a better way to root it?
Once again....Billion thanks to you buddy!
And to XDA: You people are just ...AWESOME! \m/!!!!!!

Roshan_P said:
niksy+!!!
Dude it worked.:victory: I had to factory reset the whole thing(data+cache) but I really don't mind its totally okay! I am very very grateful for your timely help and you just saved my ass(My dad would have been really pissed)! Thank you so much!:good::highfive:
I am still on froyo for now!
And just for your information(since you were not sure) tapping the lower portion of the screen didn't work. I was trying various combinations...and that menu appeared. The combination(after the exclamation mark appears on the screen) that worked is volume up down. One has to to press volume up and down, up and down till the menu appears!
I used to SuperOneClick to root.. apparently the root is still preserved(I thought the device will unroot itself when I factory reset it)! Why do you think there was a better way to root it?
Once again....Billion thanks to you buddy!
And to XDA: You people are just ...AWESOME! \m/!!!!!!
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@Roshan
Good to have you here....I'm Abhishek...

[Q] Power + Volume down button

Sorry for this very noobish question. My concern is, i cannot go to factory reset screen... No matter what i do, how many times i restarted and remove the battery, i cannot pull up the screen. Volume down + power button only makes my phone boot in safe mode... Im preparing to root my phone so im trying every possible way to save my phone if just in case something went wrong, I just want to make sure that it'll work before i begin rooting my device, but its not working... am i missing something?
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My device is LG-D855 EU/Asian 3/32gb version. Not yer rooted.
I just activated the developers option but didn't do anything or touch anything with it.
Uhm, just tried this kitkat thing when you tap 4.4 couple of times..
Used LG suit and ran back up for my device.
sorry i manage to solve my noob concern, didn't heard the "release and re-hold power button" after logo appears. should have watched the video again before posting here. wasted time composing non sense thread. xD

SpEaKeRb0xXx said:
Sorry for this very noobish question. My concern is, i cannot go to factory reset screen... No matter what i do, how many times i restarted and remove the battery, i cannot pull up the screen. Volume down + power button only makes my phone boot in safe mode... Im preparing to root my phone so im trying every possible way to save my phone if just in case something went wrong, I just want to make sure that it'll work before i begin rooting my device, but its not working... am i missing something?
I followed this step but still no luck
My device is LG-D855 EU/Asian 3/32gb version. Not yer rooted.
I just activated the developers option but didn't do anything or touch anything with it.
Uhm, just tried this kitkat thing when you tap 4.4 couple of times..
Used LG suit and ran back up for my device.
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You have to press power and volume down, until you see the LG screen then let go and press volume and power down again.

SpEaKeRb0xXx said:
Sorry for this very noobish question. My concern is, i cannot go to factory reset screen... No matter what i do, how many times i restarted and remove the battery, i cannot pull up the screen. Volume down + power button only makes my phone boot in safe mode... Im preparing to root my phone so im trying every possible way to save my phone if just in case something went wrong, I just want to make sure that it'll work before i begin rooting my device, but its not working... am i missing something?
I followed this step but still no luck
My device is LG-D855 EU/Asian 3/32gb version. Not yer rooted.
I just activated the developers option but didn't do anything or touch anything with it.
Uhm, just tried this kitkat thing when you tap 4.4 couple of times..
Used LG suit and ran back up for my device.
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For root use this https://towelroot.com from your phone install the app press a button and your rooted then install superuser and your done to go into recovery turn phone off then hold power volume down
Edit do what @Lennyuk said lol forgot that bit

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Lennyuk said:
You have to press power and volume down, until you see the LG screen then let go and press volume and power down again.
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thank you very much! i should have watched the video again and pay attention before posting here . i didn't heard the release and re hold the power button after logo appears.

jaythenut said:
For root use this https://towelroot.com from your phone install the app press a button and your rooted then install superuser and your done to go into recovery turn phone off then hold power volume down
Edit do what @Lennyuk said lol forgot that bit
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Thank you! i manage to go to that rf screen and i think ill be rooting the device now. towelroot is the easiest way to root so i think ill be using that. Thanks again!