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HTC Desire memory issues

Hi there,
I have a HTC Desire, and its telling me I have low space, so I have deleted everything that I can, including old messages..
Now I am trying to get into my gallery to delete photos/videos and it comes up saying:
Your phone is low on storage space. Please free some space before using this application
I also tried accessing the gallery through camera, and it tells me the same thing
Removed battery for ten seconds then restarted no help
I dont understand what I can do next.
When I restart the phone (which I have like 10 times), it comes up saying it cant identify my time zone... The phone has not been dropped and is in a very protected case
Can someone please help me? Its my partners phone I have borrowed and I'm scared I have broken it!!!
thanks in advance
Becc

Beccz89 said:
Hi there,
I have a HTC Desire, and its telling me I have low space, so I have deleted everything that I can, including old messages..
Now I am trying to get into my gallery to delete photos/videos and it comes up saying:
Your phone is low on storage space. Please free some space before using this application
I also tried accessing the gallery through camera, and it tells me the same thing
Removed battery for ten seconds then restarted no help
I dont understand what I can do next.
When I restart the phone (which I have like 10 times), it comes up saying it cant identify my time zone... The phone has not been dropped and is in a very protected case
Can someone please help me? Its my partners phone I have borrowed and I'm scared I have broken it!!!
thanks in advance
Becc
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Have you moved your apps to the SD card?

If u have ext partition then in android terminal type
a2sd reinstall
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reaper7881 said:
If u have ext partition then in android terminal type
a2sd reinstall
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
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I think this is someone with a completely stock phone

shankly1985 said:
I think this is someone with a completely stock phone
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Yes it is lol
I have moved the apps to the memory card

Beccz89 said:
Hi there,
I have a HTC Desire, and its telling me I have low space, so I have deleted everything that I can, including old messages..
Now I am trying to get into my gallery to delete photos/videos and it comes up saying:
Your phone is low on storage space. Please free some space before using this application
I also tried accessing the gallery through camera, and it tells me the same thing
Removed battery for ten seconds then restarted no help
I dont understand what I can do next.
When I restart the phone (which I have like 10 times), it comes up saying it cant identify my time zone... The phone has not been dropped and is in a very protected case
Can someone please help me? Its my partners phone I have borrowed and I'm scared I have broken it!!!
thanks in advance
Becc
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Hello there welcome to xda
What you are getting is the biggest problem the HTC desire has is very little install space, Your better of rooting your phone and installing starburst ROM witch will give you 2GB internal memory.
If you dont want to root try install Quick App cache, this wil remove alot of unwanted data.
Read into Rooting
Always backup
Install custom rom

shankly1985 said:
Hello there welcome to xda
What you are getting is the biggest problem the HTC desire has is very little install space, Your better of rooting your phone and installing starburst ROM witch will give you 2GB internal memory.
If you dont want to root try install Quick App cache, this wil remove alot of unwanted data.
Read into Rooting
Always backup
Install custom rom
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Do I find "Quick App cache" in the market?

Beccz89 said:
Do I find "Quick App cache" in the market?
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Yes you do need root for it to clean everything for you, but you can clean each app one at a time with out root theres a good chance that you'll have your browser or another app using alot of MB without you even knowing about it. DONT DELETE APP DATA UNLESS YOU WANT TO.

I think I will wait for my partner to have a go with it, so I dont mess it up!
Do you that that will fix it?

Could you post your system info? you'll find it in settings, about phone, software information.
Or you could look here your self
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Bravo
Its so you can download the stock rom you have now, just incase you ever need to go back to stock. this is only if your think about rooting.

Beccz89 said:
I think I will wait for my partner to have a go with it, so I dont mess it up!
Do you that that will fix it?
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To tell you the Truth, it will free some space but you will be back wanting to free up space again and again
Thats why its best to Root your phone, dont just rush into it have a very good read on this site even watch youtube lots of video's on there showing you have to do it.
Once you feel you know what your doing you'll be fine Always remember to Backup, download your Stock ROM from shipped roms. then pick a custom from from the dev part of this site

Android version: 2.2
Baseband version: 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Kernel version: 2.6.32.15-g5d39305
[email protected]#1
Build number: 2.26.841.2 CL258170 release-keys
Software number: 2.26.841.2
Browser version: WebKit 3.1

Beccz89 said:
Android version: 2.2
Baseband version: 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Kernel version: 2.6.32.15-g5d39305
[email protected]#1
Build number: 2.26.841.2 CL258170 release-keys
Software number: 2.26.841.2
Browser version: WebKit 3.1
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Your phone with Telstra?

shankly1985 said:
Your phone with Telstra?
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Yeah it is

Beccz89 said:
Yeah it is
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Ok your all good then
http://shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=android&model=Bravo&file=RUU_Bravo_Froyo_Telstra_WWE_2.26.841.2_Radio_32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14_release_150162_signed.exe
Download this and keep it saved to your PC, its just for future incase you ever need it
If you ever root your phone and you end up not wanting root you can install this and it will make your phone back to stock unrooted.

Running out of memory is the main reason why I rooted and S-Offed my Desire.
If you have done those, there are plenty options of solving the running out of memory problem.
A2SD+, A2SD + custom NAND partition, Data2Ext, etc.
Beside those you will be also get these as bonuses:
1. Faster and smoother Desire
2. Longer battery life
3. Various UI from various ROMs (Sense, New-Sense, Plain, MIUI, etc.)
4. DSP manager witch doesn't come with the stock ROM
5. Overclock, underclock, under voltage, etc. settings
6. UOT skins
7. Adblock to block unwanted ads
8. Flashing addiction
etc.

OK...you have got your original signed ROM just in case you need it in the future.
Now it is time to root.
Download Android H-Boot driver for your PC and Unrevoked software.
Learn how to root and flash ROMs (no S-Off first nor Nand partition modification, learn more and do those later)

What is it that is eating up my memory...?
I'm NOT asking for more memory for installing apps - I just want to get the same amount of free memory back that I got after a fresh factoryreset and reinstalling and using all programs the first time...
I'm running stock HTC 2.3.3.
Just four days ago I reset my phone and installed 29 apps ran all of them so that they were all ready to use exg Google goggles isn't ready to use before you have answered a few questions...
And I had 29,19 Mb left!!! Brilliant!!! :-D
Today I had to remove a 3,28 MB program because I were below 15 mb and at this moment there is only 16,29 Mb left.
All programs that I can move to sd is moved, all cache is cleared using "1 tap cleaner" (is the a better app for this...)
Why is it that I have lost 13 mb???
Please help because I really would like to find the cause of this...
Installed apps:
1 tap cleaner free
Adobe flash 10.3
Angry birds
Bubble
cardiotrainer
chrome to phone
convert - unit converter
documents to go
dropbox
es file explorer
facebook for android
gmail
goggles
google sky map
handcent sms
flashlight
maps
my perfect egg timer
my tracks
notes (htc widget)
rockplayer lite
shazam
smooth calender
tv2 nyhederne (danish news station app)
Tv2 superliga (dansih football)
tv guide
valg2011
Dmi (danish weather)
youtube
(By the way right after the reset before I installed any apps it said 125 Mb free memory for install)

Well, space is eaten by apps' data (not only cache), crash logs et cetera. For example, when i first install DEX (Romanian dictionary app) it "eats" some 1.26 MB after being moved to SD. When i first run it, it creates another ~5MB of data. If you remove said data, it will just be created again on next run, so don't try that as it's useless.

Yes I know that programs "creates" more mb but that was also what I tried to write when I said that all programs were running one time when I still had 29 mb left...?
So what is it then...?

[Q] Integrating system updates into ROM

My Desire's running the current Stock ROM, and is rooted via Unrevoked with S-Off via AlphaRev.
I'm constantly skirting close to the 15Mb remaining data limit. The thing is, I'm running fewer apps than ever before these days, what with apps getting bigger and system updates using up precious memory space.
So I thought I'd use Titanium Backup to integrate the system updates into the ROM and free up data space. So I nandroided, s-off'd and ran the batch to integrate the updates into the ROM.
The apps in question (off the top of my head) were Flash, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Market, and a couple of others.
It didn't work.
At first it looked as if it had, but I was getting force closes when I ran them.
I tried doing a force close repair via ROM Manager, but that didn't help.
The only thing that did work was apparently Flash. But then I was browsing around because I didn't getting the memory back I was expecting and I can still see the flash files in data.
So the updates have been recovered back into data and I'm back where I started.
So how do I do this?
Should TB work? What's the best way to actually integrate these files into the ROM? Which files need moving? Is flash just libflashplayer.so, because there are 3 other flash .so files? Do I need to modify anything to point to the new locations?
I really hope that the new gingerbread ROM doesn't immediately need system updates, but I expect to be disappointed.
Ta
Matt

To be honest I don't really know the answer I've never tried.... Could it be the permissions? Root Explorer - data/apps... find app you want and edit permissions ?
Why not just get apps2sd or data2sd?

I'm not against apps2sd or data2sd, it's just that I dodn't like the idea of having two versions of the same app on the phone - it's just a waste.
I'm thinking I'll apply the upgrade when it comes (if it's any good) - hopefully most of the system app updates will be built in already. Then I'll look for a version that strips back system to the bare minimum and repartitions to minimise system/maximise data, and also has apps2sd or data2sd (not sure which at the mo).
I do find it strange, though, that so few experiences of TB's integrate into ROM feature are discussed on the net.
ta
Matt

Root issues HTC Desire

Hi all, hope this is in the right section.
I rooted my Desire last night using unRevoked 3.3 with the intention of removing all the bloatware on my phone and forcing most of the apps onto the sd card.
My phone seems to have rooted fine, i have the Superuser Permissions application on there, and Titanium backup pro seems to be working too.
Now when i use Titanium backup to try and remove programs such as Stocks, News and Weather, News etc... I click on the app in the list, click un-install and then it tells me its uninstalled. However the apps still appear in my menu and are still there following a reboot. Ive also tried another method using Super Manager and that doesent seem to work either. The apps are still there following them being 'uninstalled'.
Also, similar situation with the SD card, i downloaded Move2SD enabler and that doesent seem to let me move certain apps like Maps, Facebook and others.
Any idea where im going wrong? Im on stock 2.2. My phone is in debug usb mode too.
Any help would be great.
Cheers

The apps you want to remove/move are system apps in stock roms. So you cannot do such things, because you are not s-off. But you might be able to do the things you want with adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barebones
How to install adb:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Howto:_Install_the_Android_SDK

Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.

k3lcior said:
Or just delete specified .apk's from the .zip file before flashing.
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He did not flash a rom. He is just using stock rom. There is nothing to delete from a zip file, because there is no zip file he wants to flash.

Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.

k3lcior said:
Then what i suggest is flashing custom ROM and customize it just how you like, you wont need to S-OFF. (which is much more risky than flashing a ROM)
What i would also try is application called "SystemAppRemover", i'm using it for removing all the system bloatware which you mentioned, but im S-OFF so i cannot guarantee it will work.
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Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
To remove system apps in running system with an app, you have to be s-off.

MatDrOiD said:
Maybe he wants to stay with stock rom? If he wants to flash custom rom, I guess he would have asked for it.
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I guess you know better than him, fine.

k3lcior said:
I guess you know better than him, fine.
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It was just a clue, had nothing to do with knowledge.
Nevertheless, we should stop filling this thread with our senseless discussion.

haha thanks for the responses guys!
ive been looking at all the custom roms and whilst most of them look pretty cool, im quite happy with whats already on there at the moment, im just bored of seeing my phone telling me i dont have enough internal space etc... so i wanted to root and move as many apps onto the sd card as possible and delete all the unwanted stuff that im constantly closing in taskiller.
i did read something about putting the phone into s-off mode, i guess this is the way to go in regards to deleting the unwanted system apps?
also i believe that i cannot move facebook or google maps onto the sd card, am i correct?

Best option is flashing custom ROM, you could remove any apps you want from the flashable .zip file, and give you an unlimited storage for apps - A2SD. (well limited by SD Card capacity)
You can also S-OFF and remove apps you dont want, but it will barely help as you will probably still run with "low internal storage" errors at some point.
Also with stock ROM you are running, most apps wont be able to move onto SD anyways.
There are custom rom's based on Froyo 2.2 if you like it.

i guess i will look into flashing a ROM. i didnt really want to do that as i didnt want to have to reinstall everything etc... but i guess its the only way i will be satisifed lol.

Just make backup with Titanium Backup and then restore it.

[Q] software upgrades

Hey guys, I have a question: if i upgrade to a new version, let say gmail, is the whole program replaced by the new one?, because the old one is a couple of MB and the new one too.
I was just wandering, about the limit of the phones memmory.

Hey,
It just overwrite the App, because if the upgrade would replace it you won't be able to choose reinstall the update.
Matteo

copyer said:
Hey guys, I have a question: if i upgrade to a new version, let say gmail, is the whole program replaced by the new one?, because the old one is a couple of MB and the new one too.
I was just wandering, about the limit of the phones memmory.
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Ignore the person above. They clearly have no idea. It will install as a user app and link itself to the normal system app.
It WONT overwrite the original it will just install as a normal app and show up instead of the original.

benjamingwynn said:
Ignore the person above. They clearly have no idea. It will install as a user app and link itself to the normal system app.
It WONT overwrite the original it will just install as a normal app and show up instead of the original.
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That's true. For example when you update to new market. You can revert back to the stock one with one click: remove updates or someting. Old market then must be still in the phone.

So what your saying is: the old version is stil there somewhere?
If this is the case, the phone's memory is much fuller than its need to be... en we all know that there isnt mucht memory to begin with.
can we get rid of the old versions?

What i do is check the market for all updates, then delete all old versions from my system using titanium backup and then clean up dalvik.
Then download and install the newer updated versions of the apps i removed.
Then back to titanium backup and convert the updated apps to system apps that way i have the latest versions without needing updates using precious space.
Must be rooted.

no chance to do that, bcause stil s-on

[Q] Space after official 2.3 upgrade

A question to those who have upgraded to 2.3 using HTC's official upgrade.
Does the phone have less internal memory available after the update?
I mean I'm already a bit squeezed for space, will this only be worse if i upgrade to 2.3?

yes, but depending on what apps you install, apps2sd is better, moving more of *some* apps.

rootSU said:
yes, but depending on what apps you install, apps2sd is better, moving more of *some* apps.
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I don't quite understand what you are suggestion.
Obviously I move everything to sd if i can - but noticeably Googles own bloatware (like the market) can't and refuse to budge.
I'm just worried I'd end up with even less internal space.

Kermode said:
I don't quite understand what you are suggestion.
Obviously I move everything to sd if i can - but noticeably Googles own bloatware (like the market) can't and refuse to budge.
I'm just worried I'd end up with even less internal space.
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A quick lesson.
The *main* partitions on the NAND memory are:
/system (where the ROM and all its apps go)
/cache (where market downloads are stored whilst downloading)
/data (where all user apps, data and settings are stored - this is refered to as "Internal Storage"
What is in /system/app (google maps etc) is NOT counting towards your "Internal storage" in /data. It is irrelevant if you can move them or not.
"move to sd" in Android is better in 2.3 than 2.2.
In 2.2, "move to sd" moves /data/app/whatever.apk to /sdcard/.android_secure, making more space available in /data
in 2.3, "move to sd" moves the same as above AND ALSO /data/data/whatever/lib.
However, NOT ALL apps have /lib. So yes, after 2.3, it takes more of the space up in /data with settings storage etc, but depending on what apps you have, you will compensate by being able to move app libs as well as the apks.
Hope this clarifies.

Ah, thanks rootSU - that does clarify it.
So what HTC's program does is making a larger "system" partition?
Do you know where the phone stores received/sent SMS messages? Do they go "data"?

No system stays the same size at 250MB. It just stores more information in /data.
Sms is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

rootSU said:
No system stays the same size at 250MB. It just stores more information in /data.
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Hm, I read somewhere they said they had to repartition the internal memory which is why it couldn't be an over the air update.
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Sms is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
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Thanks. So I guess its really a bad idea to save your messages if it keeps eating away of your memory.

Kermode said:
Hm, I read somewhere they said they had to repartition the internal memory which is why it couldn't be an over the air update.
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Nope. They had to remove stuff to make it fit. They were not entirely happy with their finished product so released it as a dev-only release
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Thanks. So I guess its really a bad idea to save your messages if it keeps eating away of your memory.
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SMS are really small. I personally back all my sms up to gmail (Label) using sms backup+

rootSU said:
Nope. They had to remove stuff to make it fit.
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Really? I know they removed things, but I made note of the repartitioning comment because, hence why I asked if there was less memory available.
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They were not entirely happy with their finished product so released it as a dev-only release
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What I heard was that it was necessary to run a program on the PC and they thought most people couldn't figure it out.
Do you think there is a reason to upgrade or not to upgrade to this?
(i'm not going to root eiter way)

I did upgrade to the official 2.3 and the result was that the phone got slower. With 2.2 I was able to watch 720p videos on youtube (using the browser, not the app) and sometimes even 1080p. But after the upgrade 720p got very laggy. So, just skip upgrading and root your phone. There are plenty of awesome roms over here!

Kermode said:
Really? I know they removed things, but I made note of the repartitioning comment because, hence why I asked if there was less memory available.
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There was a comment in a thread asking why they couldn't repartition in the update. Someone replied it wasnt possible and I said that it probably would be but there was no way it would be done. Not sure if thats what you're refering to, but they definitely did not repartiton the NAND. They removed apps and wallpapers to get it to fit in the 250MB /system partition
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What I heard was that it was necessary to run a program on the PC and they thought most people couldn't figure it out.
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Its called an RUU. Rom Upgrade utility. Many of tehse are available for HTC phones. You can get full ROM's in RUU format or parts of in OTA updates. They usually release both, but they simply didnt other with OTA for this they didnt want to release it. They only continued due to pressure from the consumer base.
Kermode said:
Do you think there is a reason to upgrade or not to upgrade to this?
(i'm not going to root eiter way)
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Generally 2.3 GB is a faster and better OS than 2.2. That said, I rooted at 2.1 and have not had a stock sense ROM since my first 2.2 ROM nearly a year and a half ago (if not longer, I forget). I'm not really in a position to comment on how good stock 2.3 is or if you are likely to have video playback issues as mentioned above. I can only really talk to you about root, which you said you will not do.