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Hi,
currently running InSertcoin 2.0 using apps2sd but I see lots complementing data2ext.
I read lots about it but I can't fathom it out, lots of recommends but no guides on how to do it.
I have an 8Gb Class 6 card
When I try to do it I keep getting boot loops and hangs, market not working etc.
Does anyone have a proper nooby guide to partitioning the SD Card?
Many thanks for any replies. My searches seem to round in circles.
the simplistic way is to use mini tool partition wizard
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
back up anything you want to save on your sd card to your computer, backup apps with titanium backup and move the files to your computer..
you might want to download and use the insertcoin 2.0.1 as it has an updated data2sd script
boot in to recovery on your phone and mount the sd card.
connect phone to computer using your usb cable
open mini tool partition wizard
delete all existing partitions, this completely wipes your card, thats why backups moved to your computer are needed.
then click create
then make your fat32 partition say 6gb choose primary in the first drop down menu, use up all the space but leave 1.4gb free
then click create again
make an ext3 partition of 1gb make primary
then make an ext3 partition of 100mb make primary
then make a linux swap partition of 100mb
then click apply and let it make your partitions
thats it, move your rom on to your sd card
unmount your sd card
and flash the rom
^^ Now THAT!! Is exactly what I was looking for.
All partitioned and Insertcoin 2.0.1 installed, just syncing now.
Many thanks, appreciate your time.
chr15gb said:
^^ Now THAT!! Is exactly what I was looking for.
All partitioned and Insertcoin 2.0.1 installed, just syncing now.
Many thanks, appreciate your time.
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Thanks SnakeyEyes, I've added this to the InsertCopinWiki: hope you're OK with that.
Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim
dont know if there is one without need of an ext partition.
But its very usefull!
Why you need it?
Because, Dev's have moved files from the system to the partition on the sd.
In most cases you gain much more space for apps.
If you want to know more, search the wiki or forum for : a2sd, data2sd, data2ext, and so on.
its very easy to do, but safe all your data on the sd before!
only thing you need is a 500+ free space on your sd-card
if you have a linux, you only need to install gparted
else
start a linux-livecd of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd)
Insert your Sd into a Cardreader
if you already use gparted, its easy, there will be an fat 32 partition
click resize and move the right slider so you gain about 500mb-1gb free space
now click into the gray area and click new
than partition as ext (would suggest ext-3 (best suported))
you should be done
now you can try roms wich need ext-partition
good luck
You can run roms with standard hboot but you need an ext partition purely because you will install about 3 apps and you will run out of space. That's why they make it mandatory to have.
Jim Mc said:
Hi
Does a rom exist which features gingerbread 2.3 and sense UI which doesn't require a custom hboot or a partitioned SD card. I.e. will run from a fully standard rooted htc desire?
If so what is it called, if not will someone briefly explain what the extra partition is required for?
thank you
Jim
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Now that you know why you need EXT partition here is 1 of many tutorials how to do it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9580475&postcount=2
you need 1 Fat32 partition followed by 1 EXT4 partition (recommended by most developers 1GB if you want to use sense 3.0 goodies).
I have the same question: which ROM actually gives you gingerbread and sense 3.0 at the same time? There is no problem with partitioned SD-card.
So far I have found this post from Cool Kingdom, which seems (from comments) great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
havn't tried it yet, but just wondering if there is anything to choose from?
PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot
UelskiD said:
PS: is there a way to partition my SD card without card reader, just using the phone itself?
Thanks a lot
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New versions of ClockworkMod Recovery can do it under Advanced/Partition SD.
You can install InsertCoin - it's a great gingerbread and sense 3.0 rom. I've been using it for over a month and it's great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940
About the ext partition - I think it's a must. You'll get plenty of space for apps...
Looking at the Cool Kingdom rom on youtube, it seems pretty laggy in comparison to the InsertCoin rom I have installed on my desire. InsertCoin seems to be more optimised I find, but you'll need to install the nightly version to have 3D widgets and the 3D homescreen.
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
It should be that every ROM has it's own requirements for doing that.
So not every ROM can use approximately 2 GB for internal memory ?
That's what you're saying ?
Yes, for example I use 3GB on my SuperNova ROM, but recommended is 2GB so now I am trying to repair that. If you get me.
Kapiras? xD
Zealotic said:
Hi guys.
Well I managed to get root access to my phone which wasn't really hard. And I managed to s-off and backup my files successfully. Now I'd like to deal with the internal memory issue. The question I want to ask you is this one.
If I create 2 partitions with gparted, one fat32 and second ext4 (around 2 gb's), will the ext4 one be considered as internal memory too ?
Then I'd like to install a custom ROM. So the second question is, can all ROM's the internal memory that way. I mean the custom part from the SD card ?
If something is unclear just ask, cause English is not my primary language.
Thanks in advance.
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Euh, if you ask me I would say it's part of internal memory (when you remove it the apps on ext4 don't work anymore) but i'm not a dev so not sure though
you can see it as an extension to your internal storage capacity..
next, most of the systems to use your ext4 are already included in roms (A2SD, D2EXT) so you don't have to worry about that, they recognise the partition themselves
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
extra: there is a nice pic near the end of THIS post what is shifted to the ext partition when you use a certain method
grtz
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
Zealotic said:
So like with an app A2SD when not rooted, you can move apps to SD, but when you remove it, part's of it remain in the memory on the SD card.
The link you gave me is for "AD2SDX Special Edition for Sebastiaan15 RunnyMede Desire ROM", exactly what I want to install.
So first I create partitions with gparted. Fully wipe my sd card.
Flash the rom, then flash that AD2SDX zip file.
And it should work fine ?
Thanks for answering mate.
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well, with the last version of sebastian15 for CM7 there's no need to flash the AD2SDX zip file, now it comes as an option during install (you'll see )
thus, first you make 2 partitions 1 ext4 of min 1024MB (mine is that size but you can do more if you'd like) an the rest of the sdcard is fat32 .. (mine: 7GB)
then download the right rom (check HBOOT, i have CM7R2 so i can install AIO v1), with Hboot its version 5.3 and you still have to flash the AD2SDX zip if you want it (A2SD is good enough for me )
oh right, don't forget a full wipe
grtz
mattnmd said:
the only thing you should be aware of is that you pick the right HBoot (don't flash CM7 HBOOT A2SD on a STOCK HBOOT A2SD)
this is normally explained in most ROM posts but i guess with a 2GB part you should be fine for A LOT of different ROMs
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An external partition has nothing to do with hboot.
The only worse thing than people not helping are people helping wrong. This thread is a failure on so many levels that human vocabulary just can't cut it.
Then why don't you help me, or just point me in a right direction ?
Thanks for the answers.
Because information you seeks are essential to know before you attempt to root.
FYI, I have successfully rooted my phone.
And I have managed to install the desired ROM.
And one more question.
I have managed to make 2 partitions.
Fat32 (5,5 gb) and ext4 (2,2 gb), yet the phone recognizes only 5.5 as the SD memory. And the 2,2 are not usable ATM.
What should I do ?
Reading your last comment I can't imagine how could you possibly root it successfully on your own.
GTFO of my thread.
Zealotic, terepin is right in a way. You show no understanding of the ext partition, or flashing, or ROMs. It will never show up. Because it is a separate partition. You'll only ever see the fat32 partition in your phone under sd storage. You need to do some research before you attempt any of this.
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
Zealotic said:
What should I do ?
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Research...
A LOT of research. And don't worry, that "Search" button doesn't bite.
At least not often...
No one said that he's not right. He's just acting like he's a god or something.
I'm just a newbie. And guess what. I managed to get 1.5 gb internal storage too.
Lock the thread please.
So in the end you didn't even need to open the thread?
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
If you need a lot of memory, just go with DATA2SD.
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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main difference is i think that data2sd uses ext4 and link2sd uses ext2 ...
i think taht data2sd is a script that installs all the app that u choose to install, on sd card partition that u made.It redirects your phone into thinking that the partition of sd card, that you made is actually the internal phone memory, and it uses it like it's internal memory...
As for link2sd it can move apk/dex/lib files separately and then creates a link to it...
link2sd leaves apps usable when usb pc storage is mounted..i am too lazy to connect the phone to computer now, since im laying in the bed, but i thinkn data2sd does it too ...
others add stuff that i didnt write, if i didn't... or if i made mistake..
Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
hellnoob said:
Does stock htc rom supports Data2SD (i think it doesnot because stock htc rom cannot handle Ext4 partition)
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there are some stock roms, that were remade, and they support data2sd... search for them ...
AceRoom said:
Link2SD only links your applications to an external partition on the sdcard. The partition can be fat32, ext2, ext3, or ext4 but not the default fat32 partition. However, it does not move the application data to the sdcard. This is actually good if you want performance. You also get to choose which apps you want to move to sdcard. This again is good for performance in that you can keep your frequent apps on the data partition.
Data2SD on the other combines your data partition with a partition on the sdcard. The system then sees the 1GB partition as the data partition and puts ALL the applications and the application data on that space. You have no control over which ones go to the sdcard.
App2SD needs to installed as a script from recovery while Link2SD is an apk. It's basically memory vs performance (Data2SD vs Link2SD).
I would suggest that you try Link2SD. I've installed over 70 apps on sd without any speed issues.
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I think that you are right ... link2sd is kind of best, BUT ... I use data2sd for some time now, and performance isn't bad at all ... It's actually good ...
p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
Help setting up Link2SD is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21119907#post21119907
I use link2sd without swap partition for my stock rom. Im not sure about swap function, so I don't use it.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
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DanHidalgo said:
I'm now using S2E with CM7.2 RIM and it doesn't causes any problem to me. I think it's the best option, but which option do you think is the best?
Enviado desde mi HTC Wildfire S usando Tapatalk
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i use data2sd by jikantaru ... on my cm 7.2 and it works well... but many say that link2sd is better, and I'm too bored to change now ... I'm even too lazy to upgrade to latest nightly of cm ..
So i guess answer is link2sd but oppinions are different, and many of us like ability to change anything they like, and link2sd gives lots of options
And about data2sd, you just can't affect anything... It simply instals stuff on your ext4 partition, the end
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p.s. i have a class 10 sd card ...
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I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
AceRoom said:
I unfortunately have a class 2 8GB. I didn't know about the classes when I bought this one to replace the stock 2GB and I bought it only a couple of months back. It has been decent enough though I can't really judge cause I haven't tried out faster ones. What kind of read and write speeds do you get?
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there is a thread about sd card speeds, i will post it later on...
my sd card has something like 6 to 9 write speed, and read speeds were maxed out at about 15...on any card, so i guess its because of hardware... it couldn't go over that ... (speeds are in MB/s)...
[edit]: here is the thread i mentioned http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472314
hellnoob said:
I have gone through some posts that explain the difference between the two, but i am still confused which one suits my needs. I have just got myself a 16Gb Class 4 SDHC and want to install one of the two. I am on Stock Htc Rom , Unlocked BL and Rooted. What do I think about the two after going through various post here
1) Link2SD -> Supports different partitions, works with stock rom and is a good choice.
2) Data2SD -> Dont know if it supports different partitions or works on stock rom (Please make 'd33ps1x' make a Tutorial for Data2SD) but I have read that it performs best with Ext4 partition and is better than Link2SD under certain conditions ( Like Class of your Sd Card etc. ). The main reason I am confused is many users here opt for it over Link2Sd.
Please correct me if i am wrong and also suggest which will be best for me. ( Please dont ask me test them for myself as I dont know if Data2SD will work with my Stock Rom and a Class-4 SD card)
Along with this I will like to know If its worth to make a linux swap partition or use a swapper application from market or doing without swapping is absolutely fine.
I use my WFS to play HD games so please take this into consideration when answering the question
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i use link to sd...
and i made a partition of 4gb......
and know wanna make of 1gb only.....means i wanna delete 4 gb partion without loosing my data....of 16 gb...
plsss help
Hello, guys!
I made a ext4 in my sd card and Linux swap with the help of one tutorial. So when i started Link2SD, to choose file system of second partrition (ext4) its said that mounting scrypt cant be made
Help me, please.
Sorry for my bad English, I m Russian
This is tutorial ^ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2126363
Rom which i running (if you need to know) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183509
HELP
Heeeellllppppp,
Send from my Wildfire S, powered by ROM "Sense 5 feel and look" with Andrenaline Engine
Do you actually need the swap partition? Maybe you should just try to get link2sd running first.
And did you create your ext4 partition as a primary partition behind your fat32 partition? You could also try to use ext2 instead of ext4.
Problem
Ext4 is primary of course, ext2 not so quick as ext4, so what i shoul do?
So I have another one question, does Widfire s supported ext4, i use eoghan kernel for android 4, and custom rom by djoliver
Ok...
NikSalsa said:
Ext4 is primary of course, ext2 not so quick as ext4, so what i shoul do?
So I have another one question, does Widfire s supported ext4, i use eoghan kernel for android 4, and custom rom by djoliver
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Ok... I had the same problem, I had a 32gb memory sd card so I thought 16gb for data and 16gb for music, BUT I folowed the tutorial and I found out the the mini partition tool box ruined my memory card... So I got a diffrentsd card, went into CWM recovery and If you go into the advance u will see something like partisioning. So if u go in that and select all u want and that should work... try to create 1gb or less... Since more than 1gb doesn't seen to be working well. After its done reboot and go to link2sd and it will see the partision so then u can select... ;D
Good Luck
James
P.S. Delete the curent 2nd partision before doing it, delete it with mini tool. If u want to see some magic flash data2sd.zip and u should see that the partision will be made as the internal memory and it will go there instead of linking ;D
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Thanks James I ll try it, but what the ext number created in recovery? EXT2? Or another?
Sd card wil formated?
Amm... I think ext2, but its better than nothing
P.S.: EXPLORE the recovery mode and you will find out more
Thanks
Thanks I do this
Can't you just use the Partition Wizard in ClockworkMod Recovery? Let's you choose your EXT size (upto 4GB) and a swap size (which i usually do 0M)...
Gl.
I also got the same problem with minitool partition wizard...ita useless in my case. So i tried partitoning with cwm which u cando by selecting partition sd card in advanced menu...it creates an ext2 partition. I suggest you to use cronmod's INT2EXT script as it seems far more better and easy than link2 sd!
Hit that "THANKS" button if i helped you...
Sent from my Wildfire S!
If you use a INT2EXT Flashable mod, then also partition from the Recovery too
Problem with Data2SD.zip
James132II said:
Ok... I had the same problem, I had a 32gb memory sd card so I thought 16gb for data and 16gb for music, BUT I folowed the tutorial and I found out the the mini partition tool box ruined my memory card... So I got a diffrentsd card, went into CWM recovery and If you go into the advance u will see something like partisioning. So if u go in that and select all u want and that should work... try to create 1gb or less... Since more than 1gb doesn't seen to be working well. After its done reboot and go to link2sd and it will see the partision so then u can select... ;D
Good Luck
James
P.S. Delete the current 2nd partition before doing it, delete it with mini tool. If u want to see some magic flash data2sd.zip and u should see that the partition will be made as the internal memory and it will go there instead of linking ;D
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After flashing Data2SD.zip, i got around 1.8GB as internal memory!! I have installed all the apps i need and things went fine till i restarted my WFS! After restarting all the apps installed on the ext2 partition were gone! All the widgets gone! Those missing apps seem to be unavailable. 5 mins after booting i got back the 1.8GB internal memory but the apps didn't get restored :crying: I can see them as list in Settings> Apps but not able to use them :crying: Any solution??? I'm using Sense3.5_v4.1 by idogx, m1ndh4x8r, Hintay and mstfkaratas, flashed Dust kernel.