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How long do we think it will take to root?

With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?

TheBiles said:
With full access to the ROMs and EVOs now, it doesn't seem like it will take long to me. Do any informed experts have any ideas?
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took me 7-8 hours to root the samsung moment once we got a copy of the leaked android 2.1....this phone is setup completely different and i dont physically have it to test anything.
im doing some research and hope to figure out a solution, but it'll be hard for me to test it for sure.
if anybody else has some insight with previous HTC and android experience, that'd be great to hear some other opinions?!
or maybe an HTC phone with similar file system structure which was rooted?

joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!

shakuyi said:
joey do u plan on getting this phone? i had a moment but was lucky enough to get the evo off someone that went to i/o.....it would be awesome to have your kernels working on this bad boy!!!
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yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else

joeykrim said:
yea, im heavily considering it. i qualify for my upgrade so for $199 and giving up a hardware keyboard for all the great hardware features this has, i think its worth it!
i hope to be able to compile a few kernels for you and everybody else
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ah dont even worry about the onscreen keyboard it takes a second to get used to it. that was the reason why i picked the moment over the hero but i still found myself using swype lol. as of now im just using the htc keyboard and its pretty slick so far just have to train the dictionary.

i work for sprint, my indirect rep came in with his evo the other day and so i installed swype 1.25 on it. FREAKIN. AWESOME. also, MAD props to joeykrim. i have the moment and he has done SO many wonderful things with it. but it looks like im going to htc...
EDIT: joey, i would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see you move to the evo and see what that genius brain can cook up. if you ever need a tester, im all over it. been with you on sdx since the days you and speedrabbit were bustin down and fixing 1.5.

IM getting the EVO day of release and maybe another for testing. Let me know when you want to get this thing a try. i just hope it doesn't brick XD

knowing joeykrim, once he gets his grubby hands on an Evo - it'll be rooted there soon after.
glad to see some familiar names over here guys...

Looks like the question has just about been answered :>
grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
Old school Palm devs working on it... even without details released, I'd stake my farm on it being 100% legit.
Important note - I have no farm .

HTC Evo 4G rooted in record time
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/

Yeah but in case you guys haven't heard the shipped 2.1 rom you guys get may not be final. Sprint could easily push an update to close off root. Just look in the hero section, the final 2.1 RUU is still not able to be rooted by our best devs. Im not trying to worry anybody but it is a possibility.

[Q] On the fence, a N1 owner...

What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?

thats a tough one. I'm a former N1 owner and still miss it. Only reason why i jumped on board with the G2 is because i lost my precious N1 that i had paid the full amount for... Other then that, i'd still hold onto it.

I would hold on to it, especially with the Gingerbread update coming out. Maybe when Gingerbread gets ported to G2, you can make the switch..

apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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I personally made the jump, but only because I root my phone.
If you dont root your phone I would stay with the N1 but if you do root you will get just about every goodie that the Nexus One does + better everything so I cant think of a reason to stay to be hones.
Gingerbread will be ported over by some developer here a short time after its released on the Nexus One so I wouldnt worry about that ^_^

I am a former N1 user that made the switch to a G2. I can say personally, it was a great choice.
I loved my N1. However, I wasn't huge into the custom roms and modding. I did my fair share of installing custom roms, kernel mods, etc. However, at the end of the day (i.e. after 3 phone replacements due to faulty hardware over the course of my ownership) I found myself sticking to the stock OTA 2.2 software with a few minor kernel mods like cifs.
My main reasons for switching the to G2 were:
1. I really missed having a hardware keyboard (I went from a G1 to the N1)
2. The G2 hardware was superior to the N1 in all respects
3. HSPA+ is awesome in the Seattle area
4. I was able to sell my N1 on Ebay for $440 which pretty much paid for my G2.
My current new found loves for the G2 are:
1. 1497Mhz overclock kicks BUTT in the PSX emulator!
2. Temproot is so easy and doesn't void my warranty
3. Permroot is now established so if I want to go mod crazy later I can
4. Battery life on my G2 is easily double what I got on the N1
Hopefully all this will shed some light on your question and help you with your decision

Yeah me too i switch from the N1 and i was missing it because the root but now we have full power to this phone it have better hardware but is u call iam happy with my decision
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The G2 has a PSX emulator?!? OK, I'm already sold...
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using XDA App

apollostees said:
What's up XDA, I am a very happy Nexus One owner. That phone is amazing
as we all know. But, I can't lie the G2 is looking more and more tempting.
There are basically 2 issues as I see it:
The G2's hardware is superior to the N1's, period.
(Especially now with perm root, and those amazing overclocks.)
But, the N1 is a true Dev phone, so it gets all the latest software.
(i.e. Gingerbread, Miui, on and on...)
What do you guys think, would you switch from an N1 to a G2?
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Former N1 owner here. The G2 is BY FAR a superior device, no contest. I would have waffled a couple days ago when we had no perma-root, but now? Absolutely, one hundred percent superior. The G2 will get all the latest software just like the G1 did -- you can run Froyo on a G1 with no problem, remember. It's the universal handset. The only thing it lacks is a front-facing camera, and I for one couldn't care less about that

I currently have and use both the N1 and the G2.
G2:
+ Faster hardware
+ Keyboard
+ Swype
- Bulky
- No CyanogenMod
N1:
+ Gets updates first
+ CyanogenMod
+ Thin
- No keyboard
- No Swype
I find myself carrying the G2 most of the time because I a corporate user, and I have to send a lot of email from the phone. I am much faster with long emails using the physical keyboard.

No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.

add119 said:
No offense the nexus one will get gingerbread but that the last update for that phone. If you want a phone that has support on update, beside rooting then go with the g2 it sure will taste Android 3.0 os honeycomb and Android 4.0 os ice cream for 2011.
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And where did you get that information?

http://www.pocketables.net/2010/11/...d-to-nexus-one-handsets-in-next-few-days.html
I dont have any info on the nexus one not passing beyond 2.3 os.
Trust me the nexus one wont get Android 3.0 os from google.
It will be from xda developer, when google drop the ball on them. It the same way they did with the g1.
Either you root or not and google going to say the samething to users like they did with the g1 in may 2010. Telling the users that they wont support them in 2011.

Why should we trust you? Are you a Google employee? Does one have your ear? You're just making unsubstantiated claims based on your own opinion.

To the person who posted about "no" cyanogen mod.
ROMs are subjective, that doesn't matter unless you disparately need it and still, Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2. Plus when the N1 came out, it barely had any ROMs available for it. IT TAKES TIME PEOPLE!
The HW on the G2 is superior, the support will continue. From what it seems, gingerbread will be the last update on the Nexus One before it gets discontinued completely. Sure it was the Official Google phone, and it will always be but its getting old in age, and specs. It's time to move on to bigger and better stuff. I had an N1 and I sold it to buy this G2, and so far it pretty much owns the Nexus One in everything.

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Cyanogen himself is working on a build for the g2.
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Yes, it is likely the G2 will have CM and will have it rather soon. It's not out now, so I was simply stating a fact. The hardware in the G2 is better, but I currently don't notice much a difference in usability between the two. That being said, I prefer the G2, but I am not prepared to write off my N1, yet.

Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.

add119 said:
Jay dont believe me i being with android for 2 years .
By now i should know how things work with android updates. All android phones that are google experience phones only get support 1 year from google or manufacture. After that xda developers continue supporting it, to people that interest in them.
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You're not the only person who's been around Android for two years. Or around XDA for two years. I know how things HAVE worked. That's not saying for sure that it WILL work the same in the future.

Yeah jay i wish that nexus one users get the latest operating system from google, because not everyone wants to root their phones. Especially, if their new and they dont know about this. And, will be scare of messing up their phones.

[Q] When will the G2 have no more support?

Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.

To answer your questions, yes, we will be able to upgrade to Android 2.3 and 3.0. The best thing about this device is the dev support. Even if T-Mobile didn't push an official update, the devs will always produce custom roms. If you go off of the life of the G1, the G2 will be around for a decent amount of time.
convolution said:
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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If your on contract your normally upgrade to the next big thing every two years, but the G1 still has dev support and it is a few months over 2 years albiet that might die off soon with gingerbread...
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Did you have a g1? How better is the g2 on g1 and did you know g1 just had a froyo update last month.
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I had a g1. The g2 blows it out of the water. It took me a while to actually play with the g2. Once I did I started realizing that the old was slow, out dated, and is hindering the new android experence.
Sent from my HTC Vision

G2 will have dev's working on it for a long long time yet, however there is a chance that any android higher than 3.0 will require better/different hardware, we just won't know until closer to its release, which is a long way off anyway.

I wouldn't concern myself about it. The developer support will always be there - and personally I'd much rather rely on good developer support than support from your service provider...
As far as hardware... No way in telling. With dual-core processors around the corner its hard to say what future Android OS's will require but being that 'TRUE' Android is simple and efficient, I would think that the G2 will be able to keep up. (Remember people are clocking this baby upwards of 1.8GHZ)

I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!

androidcues said:
I take it you did not have the G1?
If you had the G1 (htc dream) you would not have written such a post!
Have no fear... HAVE NO FEAR!!!!!
I can name countless reasons why....
#1 - Cyanogen uses the G2 more than the Nexus. He loves this phone. As long as he is around we will see much love for the htc Vision.
#2 - hell, #1 is enough.
Even without #1 or #2 you can trust you can keep your phone until it dies a natural death. The G1 is still chugging along just fine. Without Tmobile support.
Tmobile could kill the G2 off next month and it wouldnt make a damn difference! If Tmo told you to jump off a bridge.. please ask XDA before you do that!
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Yea... if google doesn't decide to kill him off that is...
haha j/k

G2 will be good for quite some time. Who knows maybe the g3 will be first with honeycomb. Lol
[G2/HTC Vision]

If my G1 still worked, I'd still be using it.
Sent from a Western Union telegram.

convolution said:
Cause with computers, you buy one computer, and as long as it's specs are good enough, you can upgrade the OS from Win 2000->xp->vista->Win7
But for the G2, is this the same? Or do we rely on T-mobile to provide us with ROM material?
I'm just saying, will we be able to upgrade to Android 3.0, 4.0, 5.0 and beyond?
How futureproof is the G2? I want to stick with this phone until it dies a "natural death", and not ditch it prematurely because support for it stopped.
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It isn't supported anymore better go buy the Nexus S or wait for the G3 in 2 years

Is froyo ever coming officially..

Seems like they are lagging...
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Seems like they are lagging...
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from looking at the sig i take it that you dont want froyo for yourself. either way, i dont see why you just dont skip froyo and load up cm7 (or my rom if it ever gets done lol).

guitarist5122 said:
from looking at the sig i take it that you dont want froyo for yourself. either way, i dont see why you just dont skip froyo and load up cm7 (or my rom if it ever gets done lol).
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Wife's phone. Nah I'd rather not dump a new rom on her and go through the headache of backing out all up and unlocking the bootloader etc.
I was just wondering for my own curiosity.
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I read somewhere that MT3g Slide will not get 2.2. Just go with cm6 or cm7. I have done both and they are really good and open the phone up like never before.

krapt0 said:
I read somewhere that MT3g Slide will not get 2.2. Just go with cm6 or cm7. I have done both and they are really good and open the phone up like never before.
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I know people feel that way, but i cant see htc and tmobile going through all the trouble to make an espresso rom and then not release it. Plus its not good for customer loyalty to go back on their word.
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guitarist5122 said:
I know people feel that way, but i cant see htc and tmobile going through all the trouble to make an espresso rom and then not release it. Plus its not good for customer loyalty to go back on their word.
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yeah true. However tmo would not be the first to go back on their word. I have called and complained alot about not getting upgrade and I never get a real answer

Use NB_Mod, it's the leaked 2.2 update.

The HTC Slide is quite a lot of phone for the money. Easily enough for many android users.
If T-mobile gives an update, how will they sell you a new phone?
I think this whole leaving out official release updates will start to be a trend. Unless you have one of the official google phones (Nexus one/S) i wouldn't expect too many updates in the future.

Froyo should be coming. I don't believe it's said that they will never release it. Just gotta keep waiting for it maybe by June(year after release) we'll see it.
If you really don't want to be sitting there waiting for it, As musicman said use the NB_Mob.

LG G Pro

I have been going from Forum to forum looking for people to comment on ROM's for the LG Optimus G edition phones but most of them are pretty dead. Is this phone just not that good? Im looking at getting the Verizon LG G2 but i am going to be weary if there is minimal software support for the phone
Went through that with HTC, not doing it again.

This phone is incredible but currently has limited support. We will get some Roms but nothing like S4 or HTC One.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda premium

This phone is amazing, support will grow as more countries get the phone. I have been personally reading and watching everything I can find on how to build ROMs, I code websites so I am trying to take that knowledge and apply it.
I say buy it, and that's coming from a S3 that went through hundreds of ROMs, this phone is already better.

The G Pro and G2 are heavily rumored to be on VZW.
If flashing roms (on a daily) is your thing, I'd suggest you don't get either.
But if you're looking for performance, you really can't go wrong with either.
I love the G Pro stock. Its way faster and has more useful features than my old S4.
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ang1dust said:
I have been going from Forum to forum looking for people to comment on ROM's for the LG Optimus G edition phones but most of them are pretty dead. Is this phone just not that good? Im looking at getting the Verizon LG G2 but i am going to be weary if there is minimal software support for the phone
Went through that with HTC, not doing it again.
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Support will grow for this phone and the fact that it's a great phone means it will only get more support once people in other countries get it. This phone is the best I have ever owned and I don't regret selling my note 2 to get it.
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Yup this phone doesnt have support right now but it will surely grow... but as far as i am concerned believe me guys i have owned all the latest phones and have used all the latest roms and on it but this phone beats them all even in stock. I REALLY DONT NEED ANY ROMS FOR THIS PHONE AS IT IS A KILLER EVEN IN STOCK.
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As this phone come in stores next week in Germany, I consider buying it.
But why are there almost no roms although it is out in the US and Asia for quite a while?

In all honesty, this phone does not need ROMs, just root and CWM will give you the ability to add mods.

I have every Rom imaginable available to me.on my Note and use to flash daily.
I haven't touched it since I bought this phone.

I agree this is hands down the best phone i have had since the og x, im coming from the note 2 and have no regrets but the fact is its LG and lg has gotten a bad name the past few years. its a sad thing but i doubt much development will happen. Id rather have a few good kernels than a boat load of roms tho. So if your looking for a phone to go crazy with flashing this isnt it.

justsimple1 said:
Yup this phone doesnt have support right now but it will surely grow... but as far as i am concerned believe me guys i have owned all the latest phones and have used all the latest roms and on it but this phone beats them all even in stock. I REALLY DONT NEED ANY ROMS FOR THIS PHONE AS IT IS A KILLER EVEN IN STOCK.
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I agree. I rooted my phone but not going to touch the ROM. This phone is amazing.
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I agree!
MrDSL said:
I have every Rom imaginable available to me.on my Note and use to flash daily.
I haven't touched it since I bought this phone.
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While I am having withdrawal it is kind of nice to do other things with my life...I do wish someone could get a way to run on T-mobile (more than EDGE) without having to tie two phones together....

here.david said:
While I am having withdrawal it is kind of nice to do other things with my life...I do wish someone could get a way to run on T-mobile (more than EDGE) without having to tie two phones together....
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Agreed, I used to waste hours a week flashing ROMs on my s3, I'm done.