Hello
I bought a desire z just a week ago . before that I have been using HTC dream rooted with CM6.1
The phone I bought (HTC Desire Z) is not rooted. What I am trying to do is, to remove some stock application and also replace some stock application like Maps etc.
Is there any way to remove or replace stock application with out rooting the phone. ?
Nope its impossible since you would need to remount the system folder to RW... plus due to the way they made the phone even if you temp root and delete them the way the phone is built once you reboot everything will reappear
Thanks a lot for the information....
Then I will have to root my new phone
well may I ask one more question... If I root my phone and when ever I unroot my phone, will my phone come to its original ROM (The ROM installed bydefault with Sense) ? Actually I am a bit afraid of loosing the Sense ROM :-S
if all you do is root, then that wont replace your rom. unrooting will not magically make the rom go back to stock.
what i would do in this situation is root it, then use titanium backup to freeze the apps that i dont want that way if you want to go back to stock you just defrost them then unroot
Yea you'll be able to return to unrooted sense... but if you're a sense fan there are several sense roms... both froyo and gingerbread, even a sense 3/3D rom...
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Thanks for the great idea.
Its mean if i just root my phone and dont flash any rom then my original rom will remain there.
And if i flash any rom after rooting, my default rom will be replaced.
What would be the way of retrieving the default sense rom on the phone which is rooted and flashed with some rom like cyanogenmod etc.?
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master.peterm said:
Yea you'll be able to return to unrooted sense... but if you're a sense fan there are several sense roms... both froyo and gingerbread, even a sense 3/3D rom...
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Thanks guys..... you people are so helpful
Could you please guide me for few nice sense roms? I would also love to have gingerbread rom
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I'm thinking of updating to froyo but just incase i dont like it and like other custom Roms instead, how do i downgrade from froyo?
Find an old ROM floating around here, or just make a nandroid backup and restore it when you want.
Careful if you have slcd
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I just rooted my Froyo Desire and I want to uninstall Facebook, Friend Stream, Twitter.
I am using Titanium Backup to uninstall.
But everytime I uninstall, the phone reboots.
Any suggestions?
You can't uninstall them that way, you need a custom ROM with them removed (but you might go into a constant sync loop if you do on a Sense-based ROM)
ok, thanks for the reply.
would you be able to direct me to the best custom rom out there?
i'm new to this stuff, i think i flukely rooted my desire (SLCD). lol
No one can say what the 'best' ROM is as it's subjective. I don't even use a custom ROM any more as I've no issues with the stock ROM.
If you want to try one without Sense then look at OpenDesire - it's compiled from source specifically for the Desire as opposed to being ported from the Nexus One
ok cool, thanks will try that see how it goes
I managed to uninstall them just by using root explorer (with the s-off mod of course) and they have gone and no boot loop problems etc.
Phil
Yes if you have made the s-off hack you should be able to uninstall using titanium. But some stock apps are used for sync as mentioned.
OK, i see what the problem now is, I have S-ON.
I just reflashed (or whatever its called) and this time turned S-OFF in the Unrevoked settings, but when i boot the phone to see if it has changed, it is still on S-ON!!! What Gives?????
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OK, i see what the problem now is, I have S-ON.
I just reflashed (or whatever its called) and this time turned S-OFF in the Unrevoked settings, but when i boot the phone to see if it has changed, it is still on S-ON!!! What Gives?????
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You need to use alpharev for S-OFF. It is quite safe and fast.
Have a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
Ok thanks. I will try it and let you know what happens.
If you flash a custom Rom, you can delete some apk files from the Rom zip file, and some afterwards using adb. Not everything is save, some things are best removed using one method. You should check on the developers forum or site. The sense-based Leedroid Rom has a good documentation concerning this.
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You can just remove them using adb whilst in Recovery.
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OK. Have S-OFF, thanks for the links and help guys!!!!
now on to more important things
How can I add the Apps2SD/Apps2SD+ function on my Desire???
I am wanting to help my dad root and rom his DROID incredible. Is there a one click app to root his phone like I used for my phone or is unrovoked it? Also romming, are there any guides? One more thing, where do you get clockwork recovery and roms? Rom manager?
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To root get unrevoke is a one click process... Once rooted you can get recovery clockmod from rom manager after that you can install any rom from the dev forum just follow the instruction on the thread... if you want like skyrider or virtuous you can get those from rom manager or if you want like sense 3.0 you get those roms from the dev forum...
Hope it helps..
Unrevoked is a one click root and it installs clockwork recovery. For roms, check out the development section, the OP will have info on how to flash.
He also wants nfl mobile from vzw will he be able to have that?
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NFL mobile can be downloaded from the market, but a monthly fee is required for the live feed during games.
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NFL mobile can be downloaded from the market, but a monthly fee is required for the live feed during games.
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Well he's had it free since he got the phone, about a year ago
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OK well, yes, he can still have it. He can have any and all the apps he currently has. Use titanium backup pro, it costs money but it's such an amazing app
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I use that app. But will he still be able to watch games free?
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Also he was wondering if there would be an easy way to unroot and go back to stock. Is there an ruu or something?
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Unrevoked is definitely the best way to go, it is sooo easy. Then after its rooted you are pretty much free to do whatever. I used Rom Manager (Premium version, its only a few bucks and a good way to thank the guys who made it) with that you can download and install any incredible roms you want. I recommend Warm z 2.2 , I am currently using their nightlies which are still works in progress but they are awesome. One thing to note when installing the roms is to have all your previous apps and settings backed up, then when you install wipe the cache, wipe the dalvic cache, and wipe the data for best results. Otherwise you may end up in a bootloop, which if that happens don't panic its not the end of the world. As for ways to unroot, they are out there, i just don't know them off the top of my head, nor do i see a reason to after experiencing freedom!
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Also he was wondering if there would be an easy way to unroot and go back to stock. Is there an ruu or something?
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There is an RUU.
www.dougpiston.com
Any way to keep the free nfl mobile?
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tycoon177 said:
Any way to keep the free nfl mobile?
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Back it up with TI backup, also if he purchased it then it'll stay in your market under 'my apps'. If it's a free app, then you should be able to just re-download it with no worries?
The market still shows all VZW content on rooted phones, I wouldn't see any reason why that should break.
Just make sure you fully back up your current stock ROM before rooting, you might find you forgot to back up your contacts or have a couple of apps that you forgot to backup and it's easy to restore that and go back to exactly what you had before so you don't miss anything important.
Also the app's don't root devices fully, unrevoked completely unlocks everything on the INC, you can load custom bootloaders and kernels. As far as I know there is no app available, but although unrevoked is a little more of a pain if you don't have the correct drivers at first, it's a better choice.
Hope you get to do everything you're wanting to do with the INC
Half way done! We rooted tonight and are gonna rom soon.
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One more question, can I get instructions to flash cm7 from stock? We haven't done anything to it except root and use a few root apps. I only can find guides to flash from cm6 not stock. Thank you for your patience and help
tycoon177 said:
One more question, can I get instructions to flash cm7 from stock? We haven't done anything to it except root and use a few root apps. I only can find guides to flash from cm6 not stock. Thank you for your patience and help
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Make a backup in CWM (reboot to it through ROM Manager) and then boot again, use MyBackup Root from the Market to back up all data (photos are not necessary to back up) and then reboot to CWM and wipe data and cache 3x each, then flash cm7 then gapps
Re: Multiple wipes
http://www.cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-05/time_to_wipe_data/cache
So I don't need a new radio or anything? Nice! Could I just use rom manager to automate this?
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Anyone?
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No you don't need a different radio, I'm using the stock one (7.28) right now and its working great. And yes, you can use rom manager to automate the process but it seems more reliable to do your flashing manually in recovery.
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No you don't need a different radio, I'm using the stock one (7.28) right now and its working great. And yes, you can use rom manager to automate the process but it seems more reliable to do your flashing manually in recovery.
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Okay thanks!
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I came from a droid 1 and liked the stock android browser. I downloaded CyanogenMod and saw the Browser.apk in the app folder. Is this the stock browser or the HTC browser? When I tried to install it, it said ""this is a system application. do you still want to replace it" The thing is, I would like to run both browsers, so I can have the choice. I dont want to ruin my HTC Browser just in case I need it.
Can you help me load both on my phone?
I am running 2.3.3.
Thanks.
Ryan
ryanerb said:
I came from a droid 1 and liked the stock android browser. I downloaded CyanogenMod and saw the Browser.apk in the app folder. Is this the stock browser or the HTC browser? When I tried to install it, it said ""this is a system application. do you still want to replace it" The thing is, I would like to run both browsers, so I can have the choice. I dont want to ruin my HTC Browser just in case I need it.
Can you help me load both on my phone?
I am running 2.3.3.
Thanks.
Ryan
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It's a different browser but your phone thinks they are the sane
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It's a different browser but your phone thinks they are the sane
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ok, so can i run both on the phone ,or is it going to be one or the other?
if its one or the other, anywhere i can get the default htc sense apk so that once i push the stock browser, i can revert to the htc browser. no, i am not rooted, and dont think i need to be now. sure, if i was rooted, i might be able to grab the apk from my phone, but since im not, is there anywhere to grab the apk on the net? i guess i could query anyone with a nandroid backup of the stock rom which might include the stock htc browser.
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ok, so can i run both on the phone ,or is it going to be one or the other?
if its one or the other, anywhere i can get the default htc sense apk so that once i push the stock browser, i can revert to the htc browser. no, i am not rooted, and dont think i need to be now. sure, if i was rooted, i might be able to grab the apk from my phone, but since im not, is there anywhere to grab the apk on the net? i guess i could query anyone with a nandroid backup of the stock rom which might include the stock htc browser.
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Since you can't replace system apps without root..and can't root since your on 2.3..I would say no you are out of luck..
If someone could modify the cm7 browser apk to another name throughout the apk, you might be able to do it.
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Hi!
So after a few months of using my UNROOTED Desire Z with HTC Sense 2.1(I think) and Gingerbread 2.3.3 and Launcher X.. my phone has developed several software issues.. hangs up.. works slow.. doesnt install some updates (Package file invalid error) and so on.. Clearing cache from Bootup/Recovery doesnt help as well as clearing data and cache for all apps installed..
So I guess the only way is to factory reset the device.. only prob.. I have Drag Racing/4P1W and other save game files in data/data folder and since the phone is unrooted I cannot uses Titanium or other apps to backup the save game files...
So my question:
Is it possible to temp root the phone and use any methods to backup files from internal memory folder data/data?
I think it is impossible to access the said folders without root. Am I correct?
Any other methods to backup these files would be appreciated. I read you can use adb to pull files without rooting an ICS device but GB does not support that, Would downgrading F/W to attain temp root delete these files?
Many thanks in advance!
Probably the easiest thing to do is temp root with visionary, then back up with titanium and save files to PC. Wipe phone and SD, follow the xda wiki to root, put a custom ROM on and restore only what you need
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demkantor said:
Probably the easiest thing to do is temp root with visionary, then back up with titanium and save files to PC. Wipe phone and SD, follow the xda wiki to root, put a custom ROM on and restore only what you need
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Thanks for the reply.. can you confirm if visionary+ works on Gingerbread? I visited the official forum and they say its compatible with Froyo only...
You should be good but I have never used it. If you go to the xda wiki one of the first things it tells you to do before you root is temp root to back up, with this I have to assume you'll be just fine as I'm sure many people have done it, I just choose not to
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You should be good but I have never used it. If you go to the xda wiki one of the first things it tells you to do before you root is temp root to back up, with this I have to assume you'll be just fine as I'm sure many people have done it, I just choose not to
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So if I follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 till step I-3) Temp-Rooting to Backup (*Optional*).. and then use adb to pull the files or a backup app to back them up.. in theory I would be able to achieve what I want..
Its very late night here now.. so will have to postpone this till tomorrow... will give it a shot and update this thread after that..
Yup you got it! Just follow that guide to a t, then proceed to the xda wiki to finish the rooting process and install a custom rom. If you don't know what to try just grab a rom based of whatever is stock for your phone, you'll find lists and much of them in the developers section.
If this guide is at all confusing look into strawmetals pdf guide of the cyanogen wiki for identical guides just writen differently
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demkantor said:
Yup you got it! Just follow that guide to a t, then proceed to the xda wiki to finish the rooting process and install a custom rom. If you don't know what to try just grab a rom based of whatever is stock for your phone, you'll find lists and much of them in the developers section.
If this guide is at all confusing look into strawmetals pdf guide of the cyanogen wiki for identical guides just writen differently
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I was able to download that PDF you recommended and followed it.. very simple and fast.. I then used the adb pull to get everything from my data/data folder as there were some apps that were missing from TiBu list.. anyways... I have everything I needed to backup now...
Next step.. downgrading and rooting!
Do you know if stock ICS/Jellybean work on DesireZ? Is the H/W fully functional with them? Do they effect speed/performance in any way?
Many thanks!
I'm glad its all working out!
There is no stock ICS or jb for this phone rather custom ROMs. The hardware seems to like gingerbread the best and that's the latest we have all the proper drivers for. Having said that we also have some very talented devs who have made some great ROMs.
I'm guessing by stock you mean non sense ROMs, and depending how you use your phone these ICS and jb ROMs can be just as smooth or smoother than sense gb, and even some of the newer sense and miui ROMs aren't all too shabby.
I'd say try a few out and see what is best for you, just make nandroid backups in recovery before each flash that way you can easily go between ROMs
Happy flashing!
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I'm glad its all working out!
There is no stock ICS or jb for this phone rather custom ROMs. The hardware seems to like gingerbread the best and that's the latest we have all the proper drivers for. Having said that we also have some very talented devs who have made some great ROMs.
I'm guessing by stock you mean non sense ROMs, and depending how you use your phone these ICS and jb ROMs can be just as smooth or smoother than sense gb, and even some of the newer sense and miui ROMs aren't all too shabby.
I'd say try a few out and see what is best for you, just make nandroid backups in recovery before each flash that way you can easily go between ROMs
Happy flashing!
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Thanks for all your help!! I'm thinking of giving Jellybaby 1.5.0 a shot.. if I dont like the performance I'll go to GB) I dont like custom ROMs.. wanted to have stock Android.. without HTC sense or anything else... but JB 1.5.0 seems good.. http://droidfirmwares.com/how-to-in...android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-custom-firmware.html
Now to find an installation guide and ROM files!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31249070
This is a great tutorial rizzoizzo made, be sure to thank him for his work
You will find all the download links in the developers section for any rom you'd like, including jellybaby. Which if this is what you would like I would recommend darkspadz aosp jb build as jellybaby is really just that with a few apps added and such, but with darkspadz build you will get the base rom. Also ghul as a nice version (both cm10.1 and aosp) that is those pure andromadus bases with added spoofing, very good stuff
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