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Flashing and backup questions

Hi peeps, may sound like a noob question but can i back up using Rom manager download a completely different Rom flash it with the manager and then restore the backup?, wanna try cm7 coming from a sence rom. Just seems a bit too easy lol. Fancy a change and would love it to be that simple. Any helps good help cheers.
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No, use titanium backup for that. Stay away from system settings/data cause it will mess things up.
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So titanium to backup and restore before and after flash with rom manager, right?
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Yes, but also make a nandroid (rom manager backup) for safety before flashing.
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Right so backup with both (better safe than sorry), thanx for the input will try it later and let you know how it goes ;-)
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I always do a nandroid backup, i think this is the safeest option.

Ya exactly....nandroid is very important.....very safe....
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Titanium just backs your apps, fully, with settings & all, so you can restore them when you go from one rom to another. Left my Desire identical to before after installing Leedroid rom: same apps, same settings, wallpaper, shortcuts... Great if you dont want to reinstall & configure apps. But it messed with my Market, obliging me to wipe Market's data & cache from time to time. It is very confusing & I dont know to what degree use it, really.
Nandroid makes a full copy of all your system, and you want to use it when you are not happy with a new rom, or disaster happens, and want to roll back.
So they are meant for different things

Hi,
I'm collecting information about backuping the original rom. I have a brand new Desire and I'd like to root and get some custom rom. Is there any way how to backup my software state for restoring and eventual warranty repairs?
My rom is unavailable everywhere on the Internet. And yes, I did searches but didn't get the full-range answer. Tnx
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[Q] Replacing/Uninstalling stock application without rooting the phone

Hello
I bought a desire z just a week ago . before that I have been using HTC dream rooted with CM6.1
The phone I bought (HTC Desire Z) is not rooted. What I am trying to do is, to remove some stock application and also replace some stock application like Maps etc.
Is there any way to remove or replace stock application with out rooting the phone. ?

Nope its impossible since you would need to remount the system folder to RW... plus due to the way they made the phone even if you temp root and delete them the way the phone is built once you reboot everything will reappear

Thanks a lot for the information....
Then I will have to root my new phone
well may I ask one more question... If I root my phone and when ever I unroot my phone, will my phone come to its original ROM (The ROM installed bydefault with Sense) ? Actually I am a bit afraid of loosing the Sense ROM :-S

if all you do is root, then that wont replace your rom. unrooting will not magically make the rom go back to stock.
what i would do in this situation is root it, then use titanium backup to freeze the apps that i dont want that way if you want to go back to stock you just defrost them then unroot

Yea you'll be able to return to unrooted sense... but if you're a sense fan there are several sense roms... both froyo and gingerbread, even a sense 3/3D rom...
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Thanks for the great idea.
Its mean if i just root my phone and dont flash any rom then my original rom will remain there.
And if i flash any rom after rooting, my default rom will be replaced.
What would be the way of retrieving the default sense rom on the phone which is rooted and flashed with some rom like cyanogenmod etc.?
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master.peterm said:
Yea you'll be able to return to unrooted sense... but if you're a sense fan there are several sense roms... both froyo and gingerbread, even a sense 3/3D rom...
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Thanks guys..... you people are so helpful
Could you please guide me for few nice sense roms? I would also love to have gingerbread rom
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Question with downgrade and root

I couldn't find it explicitly stated anywhere, I just wanted to know will downgrading gingerbread to get root via the method in the xda wiki delete my apps and everything? Is it a wipe and I need to backup everything? I know I should anyway for safety, but I have a lot of video games with save games and whatnot, and even if I backup these I lose saved games generally with any type of wipe, so I might wait for another method if that's the case. Or will it move more like a standard OTA upgrade where my information is saved? Thanks!
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You have to downgrade G2/Desire Z if you are higher than 1.34. I dont think you can root and s-off etc without downgrading. And if you downgrade thats a wipe cause it is like renewing the system or flashing a new rom it wipes everything.
I have downgraded from 2.3.3 stock Desire Z and I am very happy that I did it now I am running latest CyanogenMod and it is so smooth I am amazed.

Is there a preferred backup app that I should use that could preserve app data? Titanium needs root to do that backup.
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Hmm I dont think you can take proper backups of app data without root permissions. But I might be wrong ofc. Never heard of it tho.

Use Astro File Manager, or just copy everything from your phone onto the PC.

[Q] Question about Restoring Apps After Flashing New Rom

I currently use Titanium Backup to restore my apps after flashing a new ROM but i was wondering if there was a quicker way to do this. What are some good alternative ways that you guys use to restore applications onto new ROMs I flash a lot of ROMs daily so this would be very helpful.:victory:

I suggest u buy the full version it does things much faster, u can try my backup
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[Q] Unrooted Desire Z with 2.3.3 - backup files?

Hi!
So after a few months of using my UNROOTED Desire Z with HTC Sense 2.1(I think) and Gingerbread 2.3.3 and Launcher X.. my phone has developed several software issues.. hangs up.. works slow.. doesnt install some updates (Package file invalid error) and so on.. Clearing cache from Bootup/Recovery doesnt help as well as clearing data and cache for all apps installed..
So I guess the only way is to factory reset the device.. only prob.. I have Drag Racing/4P1W and other save game files in data/data folder and since the phone is unrooted I cannot uses Titanium or other apps to backup the save game files...
So my question:
Is it possible to temp root the phone and use any methods to backup files from internal memory folder data/data?
I think it is impossible to access the said folders without root. Am I correct?
Any other methods to backup these files would be appreciated. I read you can use adb to pull files without rooting an ICS device but GB does not support that, Would downgrading F/W to attain temp root delete these files?
Many thanks in advance!

Probably the easiest thing to do is temp root with visionary, then back up with titanium and save files to PC. Wipe phone and SD, follow the xda wiki to root, put a custom ROM on and restore only what you need
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demkantor said:
Probably the easiest thing to do is temp root with visionary, then back up with titanium and save files to PC. Wipe phone and SD, follow the xda wiki to root, put a custom ROM on and restore only what you need
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Thanks for the reply.. can you confirm if visionary+ works on Gingerbread? I visited the official forum and they say its compatible with Froyo only...

You should be good but I have never used it. If you go to the xda wiki one of the first things it tells you to do before you root is temp root to back up, with this I have to assume you'll be just fine as I'm sure many people have done it, I just choose not to
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demkantor said:
You should be good but I have never used it. If you go to the xda wiki one of the first things it tells you to do before you root is temp root to back up, with this I have to assume you'll be just fine as I'm sure many people have done it, I just choose not to
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So if I follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 till step I-3) Temp-Rooting to Backup (*Optional*).. and then use adb to pull the files or a backup app to back them up.. in theory I would be able to achieve what I want..
Its very late night here now.. so will have to postpone this till tomorrow... will give it a shot and update this thread after that..

Yup you got it! Just follow that guide to a t, then proceed to the xda wiki to finish the rooting process and install a custom rom. If you don't know what to try just grab a rom based of whatever is stock for your phone, you'll find lists and much of them in the developers section.
If this guide is at all confusing look into strawmetals pdf guide of the cyanogen wiki for identical guides just writen differently
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demkantor said:
Yup you got it! Just follow that guide to a t, then proceed to the xda wiki to finish the rooting process and install a custom rom. If you don't know what to try just grab a rom based of whatever is stock for your phone, you'll find lists and much of them in the developers section.
If this guide is at all confusing look into strawmetals pdf guide of the cyanogen wiki for identical guides just writen differently
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I was able to download that PDF you recommended and followed it.. very simple and fast.. I then used the adb pull to get everything from my data/data folder as there were some apps that were missing from TiBu list.. anyways... I have everything I needed to backup now...
Next step.. downgrading and rooting!
Do you know if stock ICS/Jellybean work on DesireZ? Is the H/W fully functional with them? Do they effect speed/performance in any way?
Many thanks!

I'm glad its all working out!
There is no stock ICS or jb for this phone rather custom ROMs. The hardware seems to like gingerbread the best and that's the latest we have all the proper drivers for. Having said that we also have some very talented devs who have made some great ROMs.
I'm guessing by stock you mean non sense ROMs, and depending how you use your phone these ICS and jb ROMs can be just as smooth or smoother than sense gb, and even some of the newer sense and miui ROMs aren't all too shabby.
I'd say try a few out and see what is best for you, just make nandroid backups in recovery before each flash that way you can easily go between ROMs
Happy flashing!
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demkantor said:
I'm glad its all working out!
There is no stock ICS or jb for this phone rather custom ROMs. The hardware seems to like gingerbread the best and that's the latest we have all the proper drivers for. Having said that we also have some very talented devs who have made some great ROMs.
I'm guessing by stock you mean non sense ROMs, and depending how you use your phone these ICS and jb ROMs can be just as smooth or smoother than sense gb, and even some of the newer sense and miui ROMs aren't all too shabby.
I'd say try a few out and see what is best for you, just make nandroid backups in recovery before each flash that way you can easily go between ROMs
Happy flashing!
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Thanks for all your help!! I'm thinking of giving Jellybaby 1.5.0 a shot.. if I dont like the performance I'll go to GB) I dont like custom ROMs.. wanted to have stock Android.. without HTC sense or anything else... but JB 1.5.0 seems good.. http://droidfirmwares.com/how-to-in...android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-custom-firmware.html
Now to find an installation guide and ROM files!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31249070
This is a great tutorial rizzoizzo made, be sure to thank him for his work
You will find all the download links in the developers section for any rom you'd like, including jellybaby. Which if this is what you would like I would recommend darkspadz aosp jb build as jellybaby is really just that with a few apps added and such, but with darkspadz build you will get the base rom. Also ghul as a nice version (both cm10.1 and aosp) that is those pure andromadus bases with added spoofing, very good stuff
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