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Unrooting Orange HTC Desire to a Generic ROM

Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated

talhamid said:
Hello All
I am a newbie to Android. I have an Orange UK HTC Desire. I rooted it and installed ClockworkMod recovery, plus LollyRom (0.2 version) for Froyo and App2SD.
Now I want to revert it back to original ROM in light of upcoming update for European Desires. Please tell me:
1) Is there a way to unroot my phone back to a GENERIC ROM rather than the Orange version?
2) What is the easiest method for that? And do I need a goldcard (I rooted using Unrevoked so did not need one). Please note that my phone was not locked as such, just displayed Orange splash screen and some (horrible) Orange apps
3) If I unroot it and install a generic ROM, will it be detected as a generic Euro unrooted Desire (so that it can be updated)?
Urgent help would be appreciated
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I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
I am also pretty sure when HTC rolled the update, it will also be made available everywhere too as long as it is official ROM version. So yes, you will get the update.

Thanks very much.
I just need to know: will I need a goldcard or something to unroot? I did not require it at the time of rooting.
Secondly there seem to be two versions of the generic Euro ROM - which to choose?

Seeing as you're on orange, unless your phone is unlocked, you'll need the 1.15. The 1.21 one updates the radio as well and causes a sim lock on orange phones.
Yes you will need a gold card to flash a generic rom. Imo, the generic rom is much better than the orange one with all the demo games and stuff. If you struggle making a goldcard, google goldcardtool - makes the job easy. Just a few mouse clicks and its done. Simple

kuailan said:
I believe if the rumors and gossip is true that Euro will get updated by this weekend then you need to unroot to HTC_europe version in the official ROM that is available in the sticky post.
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I'm on mac os x, can someone link me to/ extract the rom.zip for
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
??
ps. what is the difference between
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.1_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121684.exe
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe

iinga: Many thanks for the reply. Please bear with me the repetitive questions though:
1) You say I am on Orange. I WAS when I bought the phone, but I am using a different SIM now (in another country) and its working perfectly without unlocking etc. After rooting and installing LollyRom all traces of Orange have vanished from my phone. Does it still mean I have to be picky with generic ROMs?
2) I did not need a gold card to root it and install another Froyo ROM. Is it confirmed that I will need a gold card to unroot it back?

1) What network are you now on? I know that orange are very picky with radio updates. Despite rooting/debranding, updating the radio would mean that they simlock their phone. However, as you mentioned you are on another network, I believe that you may have an unlocked phone?
Also, as the froyo update requires a new radio, it may well be worth your while to unlock regardless...I originally unlocked mine (despite being on orange network) to update to froyo roms with the necessary radio update.
2) Yes, you will still need a goldcard to install a generic rom.

I had Orange UK ROM. I've unlocked it with a code. Then I made a goldcard and installed
RUU_Bravo_HTC_Europe_1.15.405.3_Radio_32.30.00.28U _4.05.00.11_release_121865.exe
Everything works fine but one thing. Red color is rather orange than red and is too saturated ie. faces of my friends are very reddish. I hope Froyo resolve this.

Just a quick point the Rom coming out this weekend is for unbranded and unlocked phones only not Orange or vodaphone or t mobile just unbranded and unlocked HTC desire.
Sent from my DeVillain using Tapatalk

I think that after unlocking and actualizing to official ROM my HTC is the same as brand new unlocked Desire. I don't suppose that OTA checks IMEI numbers and knows which phone was unlocked phone from begining.

Iinga: actually I am in a third world country having imported orange branded desire. I did update the radio before updating to a Froyo Rom . The phone is working perfectly with a local 2.5 g sim from day one and continued to work perfectly after rooting and updating . So far as I am concerned my phone IS unlocked despite initial orange branding. So I think transition to a generic HTC euro Rom will be possible . Am I correct ?
Secondly I didn't need a gold card for rooting and installing a custom Rom and it worked so it shows my phone is not network locked. So why do i need it to revert to a generic Rom ? Sorry for repetition again and thanks for the help
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Ok, i guess you are unlocked.
From my understanding, if your phone was originally flashed with an orange rom, you will need a goldcard. You only don't need a goldcard if your phone was originally unbranded.
Rooting is a different process

Ok I guess now everything is clear . Just to confirm: using the goldcard I will be able to turn my currently rooted phone into a generic euro phone right ? Now the only question is which ruu to use of the given two.

since your phone is unlocked, use 1.21, it's the last official update for unbranded phones:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe

So this will revert me to generic euro? What about those ruus labeled euro or something like that ?

RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Use that one as you're unlocked. And yes it will revert you to official stock rom.

So what if your IMEI isn't in the 'database'?
Yes, an OTA has sim-locked the phone. Yes, I am on Orange. Yes, I went to htccode.com.
No, my IMEI is NOT in the database (it's three months old!). Will be chasing for a refund from htccode so let's see what happens.
What next? I could flash the earlier ROM again, but I want the Froyo upgrade to work. I did try to go to Orange for the unlock code but, despite being an Orange-branded phone, I bought it through Phones4U. Apparently I have to go to them for the code. Sounds suss to me, but will be popping to the shop today to ask.
SavCom

I've just been to htcunlock.com. Paid my dues, got my phone back and we're now running Froyo properly as of an hour ago.
Off to htccode.com to get my money back

I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.

bakedecake said:
I have a Desire that had the Orange rom on it, I debranded it with a goldcard to the generic 1.15 rom, then i did the OTA update to 1.21.405 which also updated the Hboot to 0.8 and the updated radio and simlocked the phone so I bought an unlock code and all was good.
Next I rooted the phone using the modaco r6 rooted 1.15 rom, used a few rooted roms then decided I would unroot to get the official froyo update. To do this I used the 1.21.405 zip from shipped roms, put it on the sd card (gold card) named as PB99IMG, booted to recovery and selected fastboot, this is the only way to get back if you have the 0.8 hboot. That took me back to generic unrooted so yesterday I was prompted to install the 2.2 update. I didn't install it as the new hboot sounds like a nightmare. Instead I rooted again using unrevoked 3 and installed a rooted version of the official 2.2 rom, I didn't use a goldcard for this.
Hope this helps.
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I have a debranded orange phone, used a goldcard to debrand to a generic 1.21 ROM, since then I have upgraded to the new froyo 2.2 official and ever since my phone is on a continuous loop of restarting all the time every 2mins, no SD card, No WIFI and no GSM calls etc.
I've tred various RUU's and updates and nothing has worked. Im thinking maybe I need an Orange RUU file, but just can't find one anywhere...
I tried using 1.21.405 zip, renamed to PB99IMG then went through recovery mode and fastboot, but when fast boot was selected nothing happened just another menu with - reset, bootloader, clear data etc nothing to say install anything?

[Q] Send back branded Desire which was bought as unbranded or get 40 Euro compensatio

Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel

Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.

You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.

Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel

There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.

steve228uk said:
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers

[Q] how to unroot my desire baseband 33.44.00.32u

I am a new one here,i want to unroot my desire ,however ,i don`t know how to do it. my desire is SLCD screen,the baseband is 32.44.00.32U-5.09.0530.2,anyone here can help me ?I really appreciate

I am not good at this thing but look through this thread.
Also wait for a second opinion. There may be better methods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256

Thanks. I brought it from Netherlands will it go some problem?

What's was software version running on your phone when you first got it? The baseband is the radio and isn't important (yet)

what are the benifits of unrooting the device?

- Clean slate to start again
- Returning handset under warranty
- Just using the phone as it is as rooting isn't needed for what you use your phone for (my option)

origanial 2.2

I can't update the OTA, so I try to recover but still have the superuser

can use the offical rom

svenwu said:
origanial 2.2
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This statement is as helpful as a chocolate teapot. What version number were you running, e.g. 2.10.405.2?
Without that we can't advise which stock RUU to flash to get back to working

my version number is 2.10.405.2 !!!

And that is what it came with out of the box? Or is that what it's saying now?

I just want to unroot my desire and back to original rom,could you give me a clean room to set?

Without knowing the ROM it was running ON THE DAY YOUR BOUGHT IT we cannot recommend which to use

I bought at september the rom is basic 2.2

But what was the software version on the day you bought it?? That is what I'm trying to find out!?!?! e.g. 1.21.405.2

software:2.10.405.2
build number:2.10.405.2 CL226611 release-keys
kernel version:2.6.32.15-g6a358a9

And that was it the day you bought it? If so, download the 2.29.405.2 RUU in my signature (click it) and just run that from your Windows PC with your phone connected in FASTBOOT

yes,thank you

[Q] ROM identification

hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot

RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up

mir.nazu said:
hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot
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1) An RUU doesn't have a 'number' I am aware of, generally they are region or network provider specific. So being in England I would use the stock O2, Vodafone, Orange etc, RUU, or use any non-specific WWE (World Wide English) RUU.
2) A signed RUU is one that hasn't been modified and will run on any stock phone, the phone will only let you install a non modified RUU by default, I believe. (My definition maybe a little off here)
3) If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates, yes. Installing a custom ROM will stop you being able to use the OTA update feature.
5, lol) And to quote binary visions from AndroidForums
Rooting it doesn't fundamentally change the phone (it only provides the ability to fundamentally change the phone)
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Essentially it's just an app in the app drawer than enables you to have administrative control over your phone. If you never use a program that requires 'root' access as it's known, It'll do nothing. If a program requires 'root' access, it'll just give you the ability to run it. Kinda like a school that locks the Control Panel on Windows from the school kids, stopping them from changing screen resolution and messing about with the PC.

EddyOS said:
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up
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Eddy, is this ruu rootable ? what hboot does it give you, please ? can it be s-offed with alpharev 1.8 ?

1. Yes
2. HBOOT 0.93
3. Yes

re
thanks EddyOS and Kalavere.
I m feeling a bit confidant now.
but......................................
what is the meaning
[Kalavere] "If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates" (no custom rom)
and
[EddyOS] "Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up"
another stupid question - if i install any custom rom will it change IMEI no?
if i install RUU after, will it change IMEI no. (will any device specific number change)?
tanxa lot

IMEI can't be changed as it's hardcoded onto the phone
Once rooted it's not recommended to accept an OTA update, it'll remove root but not be 100% unrooted and cause more issues than it's worth so don't do it

[Q] Where to find my original rom?

hi,
i'm new to this forum and only heard the best about it!
now before i root my desire and flash a custom rom, i want to make sure i can undo it in case of warranty...
so i'm searching for a RUU or just an original rom which i need to/can flash my desire with to get my warranty back.
can you help me?
i have bought my desire in 01.2011 in austria with A1 branding (it's similar to vodafone in germany)
now here is my software-information:
android-version: 2.2
baseband-version: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
kernel-version: 2.6.32.15-g2633d94
[email protected] #1
build-nummer: 2.33.163.1 CL277878 release-keys
software-nummer: 2.33.163.1
browser-version: WebKit 3.1
i have already searched for it and took a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
but i don't know if there was a rom which fits my desire..
greetz, Tom

TomTomGo! said:
hi,
i'm new to this forum and only heard the best about it!
now before i root my desire and flash a custom rom, i want to make sure i can undo it in case of warranty...
so i'm searching for a RUU or just an original rom which i need to/can flash my desire with to get my warranty back.
can you help me?
i have bought my desire in 01.2011 in austria with A1 branding (it's similar to vodafone in germany)
now here is my software-information:
android-version: 2.2
baseband-version: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27
kernel-version: 2.6.32.15-g2633d94
[email protected] #1
build-nummer: 2.33.163.1 CL277878 release-keys
software-nummer: 2.33.163.1
browser-version: WebKit 3.1
i have already searched for it and took a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
but i don't know if there was a rom which fits my desire..
greetz, Tom
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best bet is to just do a Nandroid backup and then restore it if needs be ... ?

wilbur-force said:
best bet is to just do a Nandroid backup and then restore it if needs be ... ?
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When you succesfully use REVOLUTIONARY to S-Off your phone, it will install clockworck mod recovery. When you have done that, you can then turn off your phone and enter Recovery mode by holdingg Vol - while pressing power on, then from there you can make a back-up of your phones ROM in its current state.
I was new to this too, it is quite daunting but after you've experienced your new ROM and have an idea of what you are doing you'll be very pleased with the improvements and new features you can get. Im using supernova Xtreme with Data2SD and its running smooth as silk with zero issues what so ever. I'd recommend you have a look at Revolutionary on the website(just google android revolutionary) and see there simple guide on rooting. Its a absolute breeze to use there software, had mine S-Off'ed in about 2 minutes.

thanks for your advice!
if i have any questions left, i will post again..
greetz Tom

But restoring a nandroid won't take your warranty back, because your phone will be rooted still.
Take a look in an Austrian Android forum if your RUU is not in XDA.

blackhawk_LA said:
But restoring a nandroid won't take your warranty back, because your phone will be rooted still.
Take a look in an Austrian Android forum if your RUU is not in XDA.
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that's what i was thinking about too...
i have used revolutionary now, so i could make a recovery BUT my desire is still not rooted i have only another recovery software (?)
so now i don't know: does my warranty still exist or not?

Mmmm I don't know the revolurionary method, but I think that if you have a custom recovery, you have to be root.
Evenwhen if you are not root, if you changed something from the original Software, probably you don't have any warranty now.
But it would be very strange that there's no RUU for you. If that is the case, if sometime you need your warranty, you can try to push an Official HTC RUU (the debranded one) and probably you'll have no problems. The technical assistence doesn't always look very deeply if you have done something to the software.

ok, thanks for your statement

Hi, i have just flashed a custom rom onto my HTC desire, but looks like the installation has not gone through fine, the phone tries to boot up but shows the same boot screen over and over with a screeching noice. I have flashed my phone with the following ROM:
LeeDrOiD_HD_V3.3.3_GB-Port-R5-A2SD. I now want to go back to my native ROM and am concerned if my phone is bricked. Can you please guide me through this.
Many thanks,
Srivats.

srivats said:
Hi, i have just flashed a custom rom onto my HTC desire, but looks like the installation has not gone through fine, the phone tries to boot up but shows the same boot screen over and over with a screeching noice. I have flashed my phone with the following ROM:
LeeDrOiD_HD_V3.3.3_GB-Port-R5-A2SD. I now want to go back to my native ROM and am concerned if my phone is bricked. Can you please guide me through this.
Many thanks,
Srivats.
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sure it doesn't work?
i have flashed the same rom as you.. the screeching noise could be the standard leedroid startup sound.. at first boot, it takes some minutes did you try just waiting about 15-20 minutes without doing anything? maybe it would boot correctly...
if not, i hope you've done a nandroid backup before flashing?
you should be able to flash the backup in recovery-mode..
greetz