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Kernel Manager Eating Up Free Space on Phone

I haven't seen anything online about this problem... but I installed Kernel Manager today from the Market and tried downloading the Tiamat kernel for CM7. It downloaded just fine, and then it upacked it and started to flash it. The flashing process took forever, so after about 5 minutes I started looking at my phone and noticed a low memory notification. The one that says you are running out of phone storage. I then pulled up Disk Usage to see where it was all going and Kernel Manager was growing and taking up all my phone's memory. I think the app itself was 74 kb?? Something like that? And then while it was "flashing" the data for Kernel Manager was up to 115MB. Then everything on my phone started FCing and I had to reboot.
Anybody seen this problem with the newest update? I'm running 1.1.2.

Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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dirkyd3rk said:
Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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haha! I tried that app just to see what it was all about but when it flashed the kernel IDK if it even did the proper wipes ,there was no way to know and I was getting fc so yeah I say just do it the old fashion way in recovery...
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Mr. Monkey said:
I haven't seen anything online about this problem... but I installed Kernel Manager today from the Market and tried downloading the Tiamat kernel for CM7. It downloaded just fine, and then it upacked it and started to flash it. The flashing process took forever, so after about 5 minutes I started looking at my phone and noticed a low memory notification. The one that says you are running out of phone storage. I then pulled up Disk Usage to see where it was all going and Kernel Manager was growing and taking up all my phone's memory. I think the app itself was 74 kb?? Something like that? And then while it was "flashing" the data for Kernel Manager was up to 115MB. Then everything on my phone started FCing and I had to reboot.
Anybody seen this problem with the newest update? I'm running 1.1.2.
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I had the exact same thing happen to me a month ago or so. Not with the kernel manager, but it was from the teamwin hdmi app trying to install the modified kernel, and it hung up in the process. Then I had a notification of low memory. Then I rebooted and it hung at the splash, lol. Had to nandroud restore. I never let an app flash anything after that. And that was the only time I tried.
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dirkyd3rk said:
Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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Now that seems a little extreme. Taking up space? The app is 350 KB. I'm sure you would never miss it.
Holding my hand? Oh you mean like Rom Manager? Do you still browse online and download one at a time?
I don't have a problem flashing the kernel myself. I like the interface to download and browse kernels. But there is obviously something up with the flashing process. I wish you could choose to just download the kernel and flash it myself.

Mr. Monkey said:
Now that seems a little extreme. Taking up space? The app is 350 KB. I'm sure you would never miss it.
Holding my hand? Oh you mean like Rom Manager? Do you still browse online and download one at a time?
I don't have a problem flashing the kernel myself. I like the interface to download and browse kernels. But there is obviously something up with the flashing process. I wish you could choose to just download the kernel and flash it myself.
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Yes rom manager also holds peoples hands. I just download via my xda app its easy as pie. Plus flashing kernels in recovery is proven to be better in the sense that KM can fail the flash process sometimes and cause issues. I have my personal reasons why I will NEVER use rom manager on my phone but that's not important . As I've seen around km is definitely having issues with its flashing process with some kernels and it seems that shinzul has been addressing them very fast. If you could choose and download the kernel "yourself" wouldnt that be the same thing as getting it and going to recovery lol? Thus taking us back to square one of km manager being useless?
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No, square one was the question being asked by the OP. I don't use ROM Manager either, not for any specific reason, but I suppose if I was still flashing ROMs like a mad man I would consider it. What's so bad about KM housing multiple kernels in one location so you can get a quick and easy glance at your options instead of hunting them down? Or for that matter, ROM Manager.
It's also not 'holding your hand' when you've been down the road multiple times. I tend to peek my way through kernel / ROM threads just for the sake of finding out any possible issues ... but some people just want to get in, flash, get out and be done with it. I, honestly, don't see the problem with it.
As for the OP, not sure what to say as I've had no problems flashing kernels from KM.

conqu1stador said:
No, square one was the question being asked by the OP. I don't use ROM Manager either, not for any specific reason, but I suppose if I was still flashing ROMs like a mad man I would consider it. What's so bad about KM housing multiple kernels in one location so you can get a quick and easy glance at your options instead of hunting them down? Or for that matter, ROM Manager.
It's also not 'holding your hand' when you've been down the road multiple times. I tend to peek my way through kernel / ROM threads just for the sake of finding out any possible issues ... but some people just want to get in, flash, get out and be done with it. I, honestly, don't see the problem with it.
As for the OP, not sure what to say as I've had no problems flashing kernels from KM.
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Exactly. The only reason I like a ROM/Kernel manager is to have them all in the same place and easy to download. It makes it easier to look at the list of features each one offers, and see reviews/complaints. I dont need anyone to flash anything for me. I can do that on my own. I just want an easy way to download them. The only problem is you can't ONLY download with KM, you have to download and flash.
If you could choose and download the kernel "yourself" wouldnt that be the same thing as getting it and going to recovery lol? Thus taking us back to square one of km manager being useless?
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Not useless at all. I understand if you would rather spend time flipping through forum pages trying to find the download link. That's your choice. Having it in an organized list with specs is my choice. I definitely would not call it useless -- it'll actually save you time.

[EC07] Nuckin ROM

This ROM is based off of EC07-Clean, but with even less stuff
I just pieced junk together and hit the delete button a lot
Bundled Apps:
Code:
Browser
Car Cradle (Trailblazer's modified version)
Desk Cradle(Trailblazer's modified version)
Facebook
Gmail
Google Search
Google Maps
Spare Parts
Superuser
Removed: (from what I remember)
Code:
Allshare
Corporate Email
Myspace
Blockbuster
Daily Briefing
My Memo
My Files
My Diary
Twidroyd
Included Modifications:
Code:
AOSP Lockscreen (Trailblazer)
Power Options (Trailblazer)
New button images (Circa881)
No boot/shutdown sounds
Scribble shutdown animation (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866233)
This has been tested and retested on my phone, so all should be good. This has TouchWiz3, but I use Zeam since it's faster.
Download (.zip): http://www.multiupload.com/28YI2KXH5K

nice addition to variety

You're using my softkeys!
Is green home though?

circa881 said:
You're using my softkeys!
Is green home though?
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Yea, Green home, Red back etc
Thanks so much for awesome images

Nuckin said:
Yea, Green home, Red back etc
Thanks so much for awesome images
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Oh okay cool, no problem. On mine green is menu and blue is home

nice work, but it is advisable to have a credits section in the op...ie trailblazer for his mods (i know u mention them) who did power options etc

Nice work. Running with 0 problems and loving how debloated it is.

nitsuj17 said:
nice work, but it is advisable to have a credits section in the op...ie trailblazer for his mods (i know u mention them) who did power options etc
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Thanks for the heads up, added them next to the list items

I've gotten a couple PM's that people love the ROM, and I plan on making a EC07-Nuckin-2 package.
My thoughts thus far:
New Kernel (imnuts)
Scribble boot animation
Zeam Launcher to replace TouchWiz (Zeam is super memory efficient)
Dolphin Mini to replace Browser
Better instructions, including a TAR to use with Odin
Link to alternate framework-res.apk (trailblazer's) to restore the buttons
What do you think would make this ROM cooler/faster/awesome...er?

Any eta for the new ROM I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and flash the first one or wait for 2
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Penguinrocker said:
Any eta for the new ROM I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and flash the first one or wait for 2
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Flash the first, I honestly haven't started #2 because of midterms n' such. Not to mention the first works so well it's hard to give myself a reason to reflash lol

Thanks buddy sounds great and thanks for all the hard work
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I flashed this rom a few days ago, and so far it is great. I love how clean and fast it is.
The only problems I have had are some issues it apps FCing. I use these apps daily and was wondering if anybody has had any luck fixing FC problems? I would hate to do it, but if I can't get these apps working right I might have to reflash DL17 again.
Here are some of the apps I have come across so far that FC every time:
-Wells Fargo Mobile
-Stock Android Browser
-Movies
I am sure there are other, but these are the only ones that I have found so far that I use on a regular basis. If anybody has any insight on this it would be great.

rowdyw said:
I flashed this rom a few days ago, and so far it is great. I love how clean and fast it is.
The only problems I have had are some issues it apps FCing. I use these apps daily and was wondering if anybody has had any luck fixing FC problems? I would hate to do it, but if I can't get these apps working right I might have to reflash DL17 again.
Here are some of the apps I have come across so far that FC every time:
-Wells Fargo Mobile
-Stock Android Browser
-Movies
I am sure there are other, but these are the only ones that I have found so far that I use on a regular basis. If anybody has any insight on this it would be great.
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I had the same problem with Browser, I just switched to Dolphin Mini HD but I understand you can't really do that with the other 2 apps you listed. Is it just my ROM you've had this issue with or all EC03 and EC07 ROMs?

I've had the same issue. It's been with all versions of ec07 though. some ec03 as well (if memory serves me correctly) I swapped to dolphin browser and haven't had any trouble.

rowdyw said:
I flashed this rom a few days ago, and so far it is great. I love how clean and fast it is.
The only problems I have had are some issues it apps FCing. I use these apps daily and was wondering if anybody has had any luck fixing FC problems? I would hate to do it, but if I can't get these apps working right I might have to reflash DL17 again.
Here are some of the apps I have come across so far that FC every time:
-Wells Fargo Mobile
-Stock Android Browser
-Movies
I am sure there are other, but these are the only ones that I have found so far that I use on a regular basis. If anybody has any insight on this it would be great.
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Can I assume you wiped dalvik on install? If so, I'd start by clearing data on each of the affected apps in settings/applications/manage applications. And if that fails, try deleting the apps themselves, along with any data stored on SD card and reinstall fresh. Generally fc issues are due to the way the app interacts with the system.

Nuckin said:
I had the same problem with Browser, I just switched to Dolphin Mini HD but I understand you can't really do that with the other 2 apps you listed. Is it just my ROM you've had this issue with or all EC03 and EC07 ROMs?
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Yeah, the browser is not that big of a deal, I switched to Opera and like it alot better than stock anyway. I ran the clean EC07 first before I switched to your rom, but I only had it on for a couple of hours so I don't know if that one had the FC issues as well. I don't think there is enough difference between the two to cause these issues. Yours is just more debloated.
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Can I assume you wiped dalvik on install? If so, I'd start by clearing data on each of the affected apps in settings/applications/manage applications. And if that fails, try deleting the apps themselves, along with any data stored on SD card and reinstall fresh. Generally fc issues are due to the way the app interacts with the system.
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Yes, I wiped cache, dalvik cache, and did factory reset/wipe data before I installed the rom, then wiped the caches again after just to be sure. I tried uninstalling/reinstalling all the apps I was having problems with. I will try clearing the app data and removing data from SD card tonight and let yall know if anything changes.
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Ok, tried clearing data, uninstalling, wiping SD card, and reinstalling apps. Didn't work, they are all three still FCing. I think it has something to do with them accessing network/data. Browser doesn't FC until I try to load a page, Wells Fargo doesn't FC until I try to log in, and Flixter movies FCs as soon as I open it. All thee times they are trying to use network. Doesn't matter if I am on 3G for Wifi.
Just a thought, I don't know if that actually has anything to do with it.

One more thought, is it possible to have your phone hooked up to ADB in usb debugging while running an app to see why it is getting a force close?
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I'm pretty sure you can use the command logcat for that

rowdyw said:
One more thought, is it possible to have your phone hooked up to ADB in usb debugging while running an app to see why it is getting a force close?
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Yes. As circa said, logcat
Commands are as follows
Adb shell
(it will start daemon. Once that is done, you will get a hashtag)
Logcat
(wait for it to scroll, then after it settles down, start the affected app)
I'm not here for a long time. I'm here for a good time. To hell with the red wine. Pour me some moonshine. - King George

Which is the better kernel?

Faux or Bullet included with Juggs 4.1? If you have a preference, tell please me why...

I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.

funziebear said:
I switched over from bullet after running it a week to fauxs and i must say battery and speed of phone went up so far im diggin it apps open faster and reboot is cut in half if anything
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Hi Funziebear, Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?

tri4life said:
You really should try both out for a few days and find out yourself. There are not too many options out at the moment so trying things out to get a feel for them is best. Also, go and read what has been done to the kernal and read their threads. I understand that you want to get the best of the best right now, but understanding what you're doing to your phone and the differences between the kernals / roms is one of the things XDA is about.
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Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.

Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!

Rekzer said:
Faux for me! So smooth and getting 1d battery on it. Bullet doesnt come close i was getting 10 hours on that thing!
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Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?

FSUSeminole said:
Hi Tri4life, thanks for the reply. I've been reading/researching for months before posting. I have only tried Juggs with the Bullet kernel though because to be quite honest, in my line of work and with all the things I have going on, flashing constantly and having my phone off/on is just not something I can do... I'd love to have an extra GS2 to experiment with, but unfortunately I can't flash and test drive a lot, I need my phone up and running as much as possible being a SQL/Oracle DBA on call basically 24/7 for a major group of hospitals.
If I can figure out a way to quickly restore my apps and settings after a ROM or kernel flash, then maybe I can do this more often, but from what I'm reading folks are saying that's hit or miss, so I've been mostly doing all my app installs and customization from scratch after a flash to a new ROM.. which takes me hours to do..
So basically I'm looking to go with some of the common successful configurations users have had luck with on here.
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Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.

Which of the fauxs out used..I see 2.
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tri4life said:
Maybe something that might help. I use Titanium backup Pro and Adw Launcher EX. I spent a lot of time gettings things right on ADW and now that I have it I backup its settings. ( this is also placement of items on homescreen ). I then use Titanium to back that up as well as all my other user apps + data. Everything is stored on my sd card. If I plan on formatting I just move my titanium backup folder to a desktop. Then format, mount, and re add to the sd. I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium, have it restore my apps and their data. Then I add my account. I will clean this post up later, but it really makes things nice and allows me to install new roms in under 10 mins and keep all my previous settings.
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Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?

Im using the 006r and havent had an issue it runs quick and smooth and battery is so far better than bullets , i use my phone a lot so better battery is a must the way apps open so fast on this is just a plus for me
http://www.multiupload.com/TLFJTWDMNL
If adding this link isnt allowed lmk
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FSUSeminole said:
Yes, that is extremely helpful (especially the part about having the TBU.apk ready to install TBU without adding your account and going through the market) I actually paid for Titanium Backup Pro, so I have the full version and should be able to do this.... I've just heard folks saying that this doesn't always work...
As for launchers, I used to use LauncherPro, now I'm trying Go Launcher EX... mostly because I saw folks saying good things about it, it looks like it has more options (especially for theme-ing) and it has also been updated more recently than LauncherPro. I've never tried ADW Launcher Ex... Why do you prefer it over LauncherPro and Go Launcher?
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Regarding the launcher, its all about simplicity for me. Adw is just as quick and go launcher ( in my opinion ). Also everything I needed adw takes care of. For the most part I would say they are equal competitors, but I just don't need all the extra options or features that Go Launcher provides. But yes I used Go Launcher Ex and even recommend it to my friends. Keep in mind you can do the same backup with it and restore just like ADW. Oh, but one difference I believe is that Go Launcher stores the backups in a separate file and folder as its app. So using titanium wont back that up. It will just stay on your sd card or internal. Doing the normal wipes to install a new ROM wont remove it, but of course a format will. Just a heads up, and also I haven't used Go Launcher in over a month so they probably pushed out a lot of updates and changed that feature.
About Titanium backup. You will have to have both the TBU.apk and the TBUpro.apk to install. The pro key is installed after, else you will have to wipe TB's cache from application settings. Also, if the ROM does not come with a file manager app on it by default then you will have to push with adb the .apks over. Also I think you can just copy/paste them into the app folder as well.
edit- again, I can give you my exact steps when I get home tonight. Just typing quite fast here at work.

FSUSeminole said:
Thanks for the reply Rekzer! Which Faux kernal are you using? Also which modem? Did you lose or gain any functionality between the two kernels?
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Im using 0.0.7, its the one that comes with the rom Dewizzed. I think from 0.0.6 to 7 it just changes from a tmobile boot image to a custom one. I tried 0.0.6u with Beastmod, and it boot looped, im not sure if it had issues with beastmod or what, and ended up using DeWizzed as my rom after that instead which i think is 0.0.7r.
Im using the original modem, as im a Telus user(no wifi calling here).
I believe both kernels have most of the same features, Bullet may have more governors IIRC.
I just did a battery calibration starting yesterday actually and im at 20% after 1 day 14 hours. Not heavy usage, but i find while i use was using it there wasnt much drain.
And as i said, its SO smooth.

"I have a folder with a few .apks to install first without adding an account. For example the titanium backup. So essentially, everytime I try out a new rom I just install titanium" ... Great idea.
I'm saving Titanium Backup (com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-1) and ROM Manager (com.koushikdutta.rommanager-1) in a folder so that I can reinstall them quick without having to log in and grab them from the Google Market. Good thinkin'

u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different

ugotproblemz said:
u should flash around and see whats good for you...everyone's phone is different
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What he said. Each device is different. There is no best just best for you.
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Battery and Clock Color

Hey everybody, First Post, Whoop whoop lol Anyway on with the show, I just flashed over to The gingersnap 1.24 Rom from Juggernaut 5.0, reinstalled everything from titanium backup all normal like, and then ran into a little issue with my clock and battery percentage settings... for some reason they are staying green like I had set before and i cannot for the life of me figure out #1. Why this happened/What changed it and #2 How to change it again... I really try not to bother people on here with stupid question but I'm perplexed by this one and was hoping someone might be able to help me figure it out, i attached a picture of what exactly I'm talking about.
Thanks in advance for anytime anyone is willing to put into this

When you say "reinstalled everything using titanium backup, " does that imply you restored system data? If so, don't restore system data ever. Just restore apps and application data.
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Thats exactly what I mean, so i get to start the whole wonderful process over again lol

rudeboy420 said:
Thats exactly what I mean, so i get to start the whole wonderful process over again lol
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We've probably all done it at some point lol.
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I have found in titanium settings if I enable migrate system data that it will sometimes work across different ROMs, but still never a sure thing. Usually best between same ROM with updated Android components. I have had it work between totally different ROMs as well sometimes. You can also choose to auto integrate sys dalvick too. These have to both be enabled before you run backup to be effective.
This is just my thoughts and advice be prepared with full nandroid backup, and to test different settings as you may have different setup and things to consider.
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL DEVICE. RUN FULL BACKUPS WHENEVER YOU TRY ANYTHING.
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Basic noob rooting questions

The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.

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The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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MoHoGalore said:
So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.

NGL_BrSH said:
That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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I was waiting to see of anyone else was going to respond but since I'm going to call it a night, I'll throw my 2 cents in, then I'll wait for my change..
I had to ask about the "second" update since the only thing i know is this- The original roll out was paused, then when it started up again, small fixes were noticed. One being the Swype issue. Not big changes according to some.
So to answer your question about rooting to try apps, just use sfhubs one click for ff18. Clear the cache on Swype after that. Then try your apps..
I'd suggest reading up on backing up your data, etc, so when you notice that stock battery life, look and feel and all of that isn't different, and you want to go back, you can.
Or just save all of that trouble and root and flash the stock tweaked ics rom, with a custom kernal, and enjoy a stock, rooted, long lasting daily experience..
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
MoHoGalore said:
The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda app-developers app
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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First off, you're welcome. And if I say something off kilter about what you are wanting to do, believe me there will be people that say so. (Surprisingly, It's a quiet thread)
What you would refer to as an img in PC, Nandroid is what you would call it here. You can find out all about that with a very helpful guide [TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
Be sure to use it if you're that dependent on your phone for work.
Speaking of which, if you don't have a backup plan for your phone, I'd hold off on puling that trigger until you have read all that you can.
Using Titanium Backup, as with any software, can fail. Be sure to know how to backup and restore and when and what you can restore. Don't go from ICS to GB and try without expecting issues. There are other apps as well, MybackupPro, astro file manager.. Just do your homework.
Having a nandroid is essential for me. If you rename the backup, do NOT put any spaces in the name. It's also a strong suggestion to verify md5 if you plan on moving and storing - Don't delete the original without verifying the copy with md5. Just search for a md5 checker.
If you do decide to flash, good luck. Ton's of smarter people than me here tat can help, just make a backup..

I've been reading my butt off here but I still don't have a grasp of the rooting.
When I root a phone doesn't it overwrite all my stuff? Then how would I be able to use Titanium Back up to back up all my previous stuff?
I bet I'll understand much better once I actually root it but like you said I'm trying to get a grasp of it all before I commit.

Rooting alone, no.
If you use sfhubs ff18, rooted, no data, you will not lose your current setup and data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27635571
You'll just be rooted.
For TB I'll refer you to this - http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
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