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root access without touching the bootloader?

basically im wondering how to get free games and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked, can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?

nathanmcc said:
basically im wondering how to get free games and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked, can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?
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1) We do not Pirate on XDA you Should be banned.
2) We are a Community of people Who Just want to Make Our device better.
Piartes are Scum who are Ilegal and annoying this is what kills developers. You should be ashamed Coming here and saying you want free apps. Root Gives only Privaliges to Certain apps. Unlocking the bootloader Means Voiding your Warranty (ROOT voids as well) and Being able to flash Custom ROM/Kernel.
3) Get off of XDA DEVELOPERS WE DO NOT PIRATE WE RESPECT PEOPLE. IF YOU PIRATE THEN YOU HAVE NO REASSON TO BE HERE AND HAVE A ACCOUNT.

Xperia4life said:
1) We do not Pirate on XDA you Should be banned.
2) We are a Community of people Who Just want to Make Our device better.
Piartes are Scum who are Ilegal and annoying this is what kills developers. You should be ashamed Coming here and saying you want free apps. Root Gives only Privaliges to Certain apps. Unlocking the bootloader Means Voiding your Warranty (ROOT voids as well) and Being able to flash Custom ROM/Kernel.
3) Get off of XDA DEVELOPERS WE DO NOT PIRATE WE RESPECT PEOPLE. IF YOU PIRATE THEN YOU HAVE NO REASSON TO BE HERE AND HAVE A ACCOUNT.
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Agreed
Sent from my big buff bad ass Xperia play

nathanmcc said:
basically im wondering how to get free games
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Google Play has lots of them, take a look
and will the fpse work without root as my bootloader status is set to no and cannot be unlocked
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Yes, check it out on Google Play
can i gain root access without touching the bootloader?
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Depends on your firmware. Search and find out.
To everybody else who responded, there is nothing magical about root that lets you pirate.
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.

totally right there, what i meant by free games was free 3d games that optimise the ps controls on the phone, also ones that didnt need an sd card as i dont get that untill tomorrow.
my firmware is 2.3.4, would i have to pay someone to do it?

nathanmcc said:
totally right there, what i meant by free games was free 3d games that optimise the ps controls on the phone, also ones that didnt need an sd card as i dont get that untill tomorrow.
my firmware is 2.3.4, would i have to pay someone to do it?
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What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.

paxChristos said:
What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
my build number is 4.0.2A.0.42, not too sure if that is it
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nathanmcc said:
paxChristos said:
What we need is your Sony specific firmware number, if that is above .62, then yes the only way to root it's too pay someone to unlock your bootloader (iirc, the R800i (one you have?) is a little different than the R800x (one I have))
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my build number is 4.0.2A.0.42, not too sure if that is it
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(same response as the pm I sent you, just putting it out there for anybody else who needs it)
Yes, that's the build number.
You're good, root via the zergRush link in my signature or SuperOneClick (www.shortfuse.org) Both of these roots need a computer (the exploit is located in adb)

Use ZergRush method by DoomLord, an easy toolkit to root your phone without unlocking bootloader if you're on Firmware .42. For .62 you'll have to unlock your bootloader to gain root.

Bit harsh Xperia4life. Plus you dont need root acsess to install an .apk. Anyway, can't you use the CWM installer from the Google Play store, then install the superuser zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ ?

XperiaPlayer said:
Bit harsh Xperia4life. Plus you dont need root acsess to install an .apk. Anyway, can't you use the CWM installer from the Google Play store, then install the superuser zip from http://androidsu.com/superuser/ ?
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You need root to install cwm
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.

paxChristos said:
Google Play has lots of them, take a look
Yes, check it out on Google Play
Depends on your firmware. Search and find out.
To everybody else who responded, there is nothing magical about root that lets you pirate.
Sent from my phone, please excuse any Swypos.
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Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.

captain67 said:
Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.
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Touche
That why I stress Google Play Market

captain67 said:
Actually, there IS a magical root-only app that let's you pirate apps.
Yes, it exists. No, I won't tell you what it's called. I don't promote Warez.
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While that is true, you can pirate apps even before you are rooted. Just gotta know where to look. So, yes, pax is correct.

Systemless Root & Android Pay

So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!

chickentech said:
So I'd like to know how I can use Chainfire's new systemless root to then still use Android Pay. I downloaded the Android binaries from Google for the 5X and proceeded like so:
(I was already rooted with the normal method that modifies the /system parition)
1. Run flash-all.bat to flash all partitions and go back to stock.
2. Install the modified boot.img from Chainfire
3. Install the latest TWRP 2.8.7.2
4. Reboot into TWRP
5. Install using adb sideload from TWRP the beta SuperSU
6. Reboot into phone and set it up... restore Titanium Backups...
The problem is that Android Pay still won't let me add a card to it....
Did I do something wrong in this process here?
Would love it if someone who has done this could help me out here..
Thanks!
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Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.

Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.

buru898 said:
Did you hide/disable/uninstall supersu and reboot before opening the Android pay app?
If not, do that, and clear app data for Android pay. Then try to set it up.
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metpage said:
Android pay and root don't work. If you want Android Pay to work, you need to disable root anytime you want to use it and even then it may not work.
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Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)

formula91 said:
Systemless root does work with Android Pay when root is on. At the very least, you should be able to add cards. Which means you should be able to use pay in general. Safetynet checks in Pay are not that strict.
Did you flash TWRP and boot into recovery or did you boot it from fastboot USB?
Have you tried simply putting the zip on the device and flashing it from there?
Did you let TWRP install SU/Root in the prompt before rebooting? (The answer should be no)
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To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.

chickentech said:
To answer,
You can read exactly what I did above. I did not let TWRP install SU for me, and rebooted using the power button I believe after installing the Beta SU from TWRP's ADB sideload..
I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
Thanks.
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Have you tried doing Android Pay before restoring stuff from Titanium Backups? There is a slim possibility that it may be altering something from system, making it fail the safetynet checks.
I would try flashing the zip from TWRP instead of sideloading as well. Just in case.

chickentech said:
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I'll try again tonight as I KNOW Android Pay DOES work with the new Systemless Root, I just haven't gotten it right on my first try here.
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Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.

sn0warmy said:
Uh... how exactly can you know something "DOES" work if your one and only attempt at making it work was a complete failure and no one else has been able to get it to work?
Not saying Android Pay can't work with systemless route in one form or another. But to make a statement as if something is of fact when you've proven nothing to support that fact is a bit idiotic.
But hey, people said Einstein and Tesla had idiotic ideas. So here's to hoping.
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The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Update: Reddit user MajorNoodles has informed that Android Pay works on his Nexus 5. Chainfire, on his Google+ post, does mention that the working of Android Pay is by accident and not by design. He expects Android Pay to be updated in the future to counteract this.
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Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground

nvm

PhoenixTank said:
The same could be said for not doing your own research. This is a section for helping others
Right at the bottom: http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/
Unless that hole has been patched already, it should still work, but we won't know for how long.
@chickentech I'm not in much of a position to help, given my location, but this might help you debug whether it is Pay being weird or if SafetyNet is tripped: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cigital.safetynetplayground
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Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank

chickentech said:
Thanks...
I said I knew because I actually READ.. As you have.
Probably something to do with the order I'm doing things in.. Or as mentioned, the Titanium backup could definitely do it..
You know, I wouldn't even Root if there was a good way to block ads without - but most of what I've seen isn't quite there for me.
Again, thank you @PhoenixTank
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If you're rooting to modify the hosts file to block ads.... that changes system, and will trip Android Pay's SafetyNet checks. The best adblocking I can get without changing System is Adblock Plus for Android. (Root on ABP seems to only allow some sort of localhost proxy network rerouting instead)
FYI Safetynet Playground trips for me, but Android Pay works just fine.
UPDATE: Weird, now I pass, must be because I recently re-encrypted my phone.
So now it's confirmed, I can use Android Pay and not trip SafetyNet API. Neato.

Thanks! That hosts file was it.. A fresh install and I'm gold with Safetynet Many thanks all around!

You're very welcome!
Right now I'm using adblock plus + a "patcher" that's pretty "lucky" heh.

Hi there everyone !!
I gone a long way till now...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/req-help-to-unbrick-t3251740
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/help/how-to-enable-oem-unlocking-bricked-t3249003
And now I'm trying to get full Stock phone with Encryption, Locked oem and systemless Root without No warnings. = S E L R N
As far as I went was S R N when i tried to encrypt it got stucked on colorful bubbles screen.
Anyone got idea how to reach this ?
Did somone checked is AdAway after changing location of host file and symlinking it, stops Google Pay/Makes additional warning while booting ?

why is verizon app asking for supersu permissions?

When I clicked on my vzw app I was asked to grant SuperSU....is this normal?

the verizon app has a health check device app built in, and it checks for root.

chapelfreak said:
the verizon app has a health check device app built in, and it checks for root.
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Yep. Deny it SU.

I denied it ...just wasn't sure why it needed it. Now I know thanks .

Apps Think OPO 5T is Rooted?

I'm trying to run a couple of apps, namely 'My EE' and 'Sky Q' however both these apps must do some sort of root check which my device seems to fail. I haven't done anything with my 5T other than configure it straight out the box. Does anyone else have this issue?
Based in the UK using EE.

so what's wrong with you, go and get root, now anybody can use their phone without it.

x111 said:
so what's wrong with you, go and get root, now anybody can use their phone without it.
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Sorry, I'm not quite sure what you mean?

5aq1b said:
I'm trying to run a couple of apps, namely 'My EE' and 'Sky Q' however both these apps must do some sort of root check which my device seems to fail. I haven't done anything with my 5T other than configure it straight out the box. Does anyone else have this issue?
Based in the UK using EE.
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Have you tried using an app that checks safetynet? Does it pass? Magisk manager can check safetynet for you (just the app, not the root zip) and you can install it without rooting.

shadeau said:
Have you tried using an app that checks safetynet? Does it pass? Magisk manager can check safetynet for you (just the app, not the root zip) and you can install it without rooting.
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Thanks. Couldn't find Magisk Manager but I just ran Root Checker. The app verifies that my device is Not rooted and also passed the Safety Net compatibility test.

5aq1b said:
Thanks. Couldn't find Magisk Manager but I just ran Root Checker. The app verifies that my device is Not rooted and also passed the Safety Net compatibility test.
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Safety net is Google's most thorough root checker, so if it passes it's probably not an issue with root.
What problem are you having? Does the app launch? Does it tell you you're rooted? Have you adjusted the display size (dpi)? Have you granted it the permissions it needs before launching?

shadeau said:
Safety net is Google's most thorough root checker, so if it passes it's probably not an issue with root.
What problem are you having? Does the app launch? Does it tell you you're rooted? Have you adjusted the display size (dpi)? Have you granted it the permissions it needs before launching?
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The app launches however the EE app errors straight away saying it looks like my device is rooted.
The Sky Q app let's me browse TV guide and set remote recordings however if I attempt to watch live TV then it tells me I'm unable to do that on rooted devices.
I'm not sure how to adjust dpi? All permissions if any have been granted.

5aq1b said:
The app launches however the EE app errors straight away saying it looks like my device is rooted.
The Sky Q app let's me browse TV guide and set remote recordings however if I attempt to watch live TV then it tells me I'm unable to do that on rooted devices.
I'm not sure how to adjust dpi? All permissions if any have been granted.
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Do you have SuperSU installed?
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/My-EE...-my-devices-is-rooted-but-it-isnt/td-p/592637
Also:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/oneplus-3-3t/698896-some-apps-saying-rooted-but-im-not.html

shadeau said:
Do you have SuperSU installed?
https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/My-EE...-my-devices-is-rooted-but-it-isnt/td-p/592637
Also:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/oneplus-3-3t/698896-some-apps-saying-rooted-but-im-not.html
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You are a star. SuperSU uninstalled and now they're working.

does Chase Bank app and Paypal App work if rooted?

does Chase Bank app and Paypal App work if rooted? those are only 2 apps i use that MAYBE might or might not work if Rooted so checking before i bother to root

leo5111 said:
does Chase Bank app and Paypal App work if rooted? those are only 2 apps i use that MAYBE might or might not work if Rooted so checking before i bother to root
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Using magisk hide will work, I use it.
But it won't work for anything in regards to NFC apps for banking.
however once you're *rooted, you won't be able to download PayPal from the app store, so you'll have to download it from APK mirror
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/paypa...paypal-business-2020-03-23-release/#downloads
*Note card emulators won't work for NFC banking.

ok but will chase bank be downloadable still and work? i used apk extractor to get both off my phone

I will have to do it eventualy but i have to download rom im on so i can patch it?

also i read somewhere after rooting you have to do special key press to reboot phone?

no idea about a key combo startup, but yes you may download them from other all markets. just make sure they are verified and Always read the comments / reviews.
goodluck