Hi,
This thread didn't answer the question, so i still need to ask it
My Desire-Z is fully S-OFF (gfree method), rooted all that stuff, but the HBOOT is SHIP, not ENG. It runs Virtuous. As i'm playing with Radios, i would like to have the ENG HBOOT (it's said that the radio files need to be flashed through ENG HBOOT, i guess it's true, anyone?).
Anyway so what i need to know is how to put the ENG HBOOT on my Desire-Z which is already S-OFF and rooted?
The wiki gives a method to do eveything at once, but i do not need all the other stuff (gfree, recovery...)
Thanks guys!
i have replied to your original thread .. please dont post questions in rom development thread
Here read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809 I don't want to be rude but use the search feature before you start a new thread.
Hispeedworm: which one do you speak about? The one i mention in my first post does NOT answers my problem, as i wrote. You may be speaking about something else, but which thread? Thanks anyway.
Dear Richard, how do you think i found the thread i mentionned at the beginning of the post? By divine light? Why is there a kind of posters that always think people don't search? Now for the link you mentionned, i'm a subscriber since the first post, but could you tell my where i can find there the way to install ENG HBOOT, which is my question here? I couldn't find it even by searching the thread many times. Thank you.
As for asking that in Android Dev, my bad, i did something wrong, sorry. A modo fixed it, thanks
you do not need engineering hboot in order to flash radios. you DO need engineering hboot to flash them via fastboot, but if you grab the PC10IMG.zip version (of anything, not just radios) you can flash them without eng-hboot.
if you'd like to install eng hboot anyway, feel free. there are instructions on the wiki.
here is the hboot .img you need: HTC Desire Z: vision.hboot-0.84.2000.zip (md5sum 2CE1BDD5E4C1119CCFCECB938710D742)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Restoring_Stock_Hboot
Follow link above, and scroll up until you find step 8 (Installing eng hboot), proceed from there until the reboot command.
Thank you pmcqueen for answering to my main concern. I know i don't need ENG HBOOT for radios, the zip files do the trick through bootloader when rooted, and that's the way i did it already many times. But i like the fastboot method for some tricks, that's why i would like to install ENG HBOOT.
So i will take a look at what you linked, though i already saw the wiki instructions, but installing the ENG HBOOT seemed to be a whole with other stuff i didn't want. I'll try as you suggest and give my feedback here.
One question though: is that dangerous for me since i'm already S-OFF, rooted, SuperCID, debug USB on...?
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Hello all.
I rooted my G2 using the gfree method and all went well(I have S-Off). It was much easier then the process for my G1.
Current setup
HBOOT-0.82.0000
RADIO 26.03.02.26_M
Cyanogenmod 6.1.1
So my question is should I bother to update my bootloader? A friend of mine with a similar setup said I should upgrade but what additional functionality would I get? Anyway I hope this does not seem like a stupid question.
The Eng HBoot gives you fastboot capabilities. That's about it. If you don't really use fastboot, then there is no reason to flash it.
Thank you for the reply but Im confused.
When I go into the boot loader it says fastboot and it shows up if I do 'fastboot devices' from the command prompt. I thought that meant I have fastboot capabilities? Or am I misunderstanding something?
If you have the stock bootloader, you don't have privileges like "fastboot flash" capabilities. It will show up with "fastboot device" because you have the phone in fastboot. It's like in adb, doing "adb devices" will show it up, even if you don't have superuser privileges.
Hope that clears things up a bit.
Ok now I understand. Thank you for your patience.
Looking back on the root instruction on the cyanogen site now I see the section referring to replacing the bootloader.
Now I hear alot about flashing the wrong radio and bootloader versions. How do I know for sure the file on the cyanogen site (0.76.2000) is the correct one?
That's the one that I have on my G2
Side note. I was looking at the wiki on XDA and it has the Eng HBoot for the G2 listed as 0.84.2000 and the DZ HBoot as 0.76.2000 that are hyperlinked to download.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those two supposed to be switched? My G2 has 0.76.2000, which is what I used when I first achieved perma root using the rage method before gfree. This is also listed on the CM wiki. I am by no means an expert, but I thought the two HBoot's were not interchangeable between the two devices.
Anyone care to chime in on this to share some light? I would hate to start a thread for this question of mine to be answered.
Yes I noticed the same thing. XDA has 84.2000 and CM has 76.2000. Relevent links posted below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...Z.2FG2.2FDHD.29_-_OPTIONAL_and_UNNECESSARY.21
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
tazz, what radio version do you have? Id like to update my radio as well, hopefully it will clear up some issues.
My radio version is the one dumped from the RUU_Vision_Hutch_AUS_1.85.861.3_Radio_12.28h.60.14 0f_26.06.02.27_M_release.
It's found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959488
The instructions to flash with fastboot are there, as well as an update.zip, so you should have no problems there.
Regarding the engineering hboot;
The ONLY known brick was made by scotty2 by playing with hboot commands that are only available in the engineering hboot. In other words, it allows you more freedom to control the device, but at the expense of potentially REALLY f-ing it up if you mess with things that you don't understand.
With a radio s-off phone, you can save the phone from literally anything, even without the engineering hboot. As a matter of safety, the engineering hboot is *not required*. In terms of convenience, it is nice, as long as you don't go playing with things you don't understand.
Tazz. Thank you for the info. but should I upgrade the SPL before that installing that radio?
If you want to upgrade the radio through fastboot then yeah, you need to upgrade the spl first.
Otherwise, you can just update the radio through the update.zip in bootloader the pc10img.zip way, then you can do the spl upgrade.
Its really a personal preference.
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tazz9690 said:
Side note. I was looking at the wiki on XDA and it has the Eng HBoot for the G2 listed as 0.84.2000 and the DZ HBoot as 0.76.2000 that are hyperlinked to download.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't those two supposed to be switched? My G2 has 0.76.2000, which is what I used when I first achieved perma root using the rage method before gfree. This is also listed on the CM wiki. I am by no means an expert, but I thought the two HBoot's were not interchangeable between the two devices.
Anyone care to chime in on this to share some light? I would hate to start a thread for this question of mine to be answered.
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Yes I noticed the same thing. XDA has 84.2000 and CM has 76.2000.
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You were right I updated the XDA Wiki to reflect the correct info on the ENG. Hboot for the G2 which is 0.76.2000 and the DZ which is 0.84.2000. Good Catch.
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You were right I updated the XDA Wiki to reflect the correct info on the ENG. Hboot for the G2 which is 0.76.2000 and the DZ which is 0.84.2000. Good Catch.
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You're a good man joemm. Thanks for fixing things.
I went ahead and upgraded to the Eng hboot. No Brick. Yay!
tazz. occasionally my phone loses data connectivity. i can still make phone calls but no data. i notice if i kill the radio process internet works after the signal comes back. do you think an update to my radio would help this issue?
Yeah it could help it. I upgraded my radio and I get better data reception now than I did with the older radio version that I had.
I had the same problem, where I would have to reboot the phone to regain data. It still happens once in a blue moon, but not like it did before.
At least I am not the only one having that issue. Its a bit annoying.
The only "solution" I found was to make a simple gscript to kill all radio processes. Its quicker then a reboot. Not sure if killing the radio process has any negative effect but the phone seems fine after.
I just leave the shortcut on the desktop and use it whenever I need it.
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Regarding the engineering hboot;
The ONLY known brick was made by scotty2 by playing with hboot commands that are only available in the engineering hboot. In other words, it allows you more freedom to control the device, but at the expense of potentially REALLY f-ing it up if you mess with things that you don't understand.
With a radio s-off phone, you can save the phone from literally anything, even without the engineering hboot. As a matter of safety, the engineering hboot is *not required*. In terms of convenience, it is nice, as long as you don't go playing with things you don't understand.
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Thanks for the info here, I had been searching this forum for at least 2 days now, looking for information on the eng-hboot and was it needed or not.
Being new to all this, could this eng-hboot vs hboot be on the wiki somewhere? My thoughts are that once I got my phone rooted and backed up I was trying to figure out what the next step was before flashing any ROM. I really don't want to mess up my phone.
From what I gather the main thing with the eng hboot is that it lets you do the fastboot commands.
and apparently it has other stuff that can also brick your phone lol
Hey folks. I'm looking into updating to the latest radio, and so I've concluded it's finally time to get the engineering bootloader onto my phone. I have enough experience with my old G1 to not be super-nervous about it, but I have one quick question first.
When originally rooting using gfree back in late December, I decided to skip the SuperCID and SIM-unlock portions of the process. The wiki instructions for the eng-hboot, however, assume the user did all three options. With simply radio s-off, can I install the new bootloader, or do I need to go back and get SuperCID first?
Thanks for any help you can give.
You dont need an ENG Hboot to flash the new radio you can use the PC10IMG update method. Heres a link to the post with the download.
Thanks, joemm - reading through the various radio topics, I've gathered that you've been really helpful in providing PC10IMG files for people, and that's really appreciated.
My concern is if it turns out the new radio is worse than the old; it seems like the easiest way to go back to my current radio is through fastboot flashing, which is why I wanted to go to the eng hboot. I don't see a pc10img already out there with my current tmo, post-OTA radio (though it's listed in the mega-radio topic).
So, I guess my quesion is still open - do I need supercid to flash eng-hboot?
Actually I have a similar situation. I also skipped SuperCID and SIM-unlock when using gfree. (Not sure why I did, but Im sure it made sense at the time)
Anyway I have the eng hboot but would like to upgrade the radio.
Can I run gfree again to do the sim unlock and then upgrade the radio? Or upgrade to this radio - Vision_RADIO_12.28h.60.140f_26.06.02.27_M - and then run gfree again?
What does the sim-unlock change and supercid change acually happen anyway? I mean does it make a change to the radio itself?
Sim unlock makes a permission state change. Makes a 1 a 0, as I recall. Dunno bout SuperCID.
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Thanks for the reply Daughain.
But where is that change made? is it made to the radio itself?
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Thanks for the reply Daughain.
But where is that change made? is it made to the radio itself?
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I don't think it changes the radio, because I've personally switched radios several times and I didn't have to unlock every time. Once, when I rooted the phone and that was it.
Hey guys,
i know there are other threads like this. But i could´t find the right answer for me.
I just wanted to flash a custom rom.
I downgraded my dhd to 1.32. Then I used visonary to get root and did the radio s-off with the easy tool.
But when i tryed to do the ENG S-OFF, easy s-off always gives me the message "Bootloader corrupt, DO NOT REBOOT".
I guess, this is to hot for me now. What can I do to NOT brick my Phone and get my good old stock rom back??
I really look forward to your answers
EDIT: Ok.. After the first excitement I found a helpful post. Can i install a stock RUU to recuse my Phone or will it restart before it and my phone is trash?
Please use pre existing threads when posting.
[TOOL] One click ENG S-OFF
On that note thread closed.
Hi all.
I have a rooted wildfire with a custom ROM on HBOOT 0.80. As I'd like to S-OFF it, I searched for info, and at first it looked like I had to RUU it (with goldcard and all), and then use Revolutionary to do the trick.
Then I found this thread. Inside the file linked there there seem to be the correct HBOOT I need (1.01, same one as in the RUU) and a clear explanation of how to upload it, and I thought maybe it could be possible to just flash the HBOOT alone, without the rest, and then S-OFF the phone. In theory, this would cut the necessary steps quite a lot and allow S-OFF keeping the phone as it is.
The questions are, has anyone tried this procedure? If I do try and something goes wrong, will a nandroid restore of my previous setup also restore the old HBOOT, thus making the phone usable again?
Thanks!
Veon11
You can't use that method. Fastboot needs S-OFF by Revolutionary originally.
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You can't use that method. Fastboot needs S-OFF by Revolutionary originally.
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It DID looked too easy...
Thanks for the quick answer.
So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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So today I got Desire Z. It's nice, I really love Sense 2.1 (or mostly it's LockScreen), but KK (with it ) would be better.
Now, as it's old phone and old forum, cannot find what and how to do.
I found this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-desire-z/help/complete-guide-to-root-downgrade-t3332619
Is that would I need to do or there is something easier?
Right now I have stock 2.42.405.3 and available update (6,55Mb so probably .4) and HBOOT-0.85.0013 with S-OFF (so previous user probably was playing with this device).
What I should do now?
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Hey buddy,
Take a look through the first few posts here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348266&page=16
It may seem like a lot but it will be worth it
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
ch3mn3y said:
So it seems that for fastboot I need this Engineering HBoot or after S-OFF I have full access?
Coz all guides for Eng HBoot are for downgraded devices and all the guides for downgrading are for S-ON devices...
However I've also found that Eng HBoot was used when S-OFF was not possible and now it's not recommended, what can mean that S-OFF gives access to Fastboot same way the Eng HBoot?
If ti is true, than flashing Recovery will be easy and than I can check Roms
I know I'm missing something, but cannot find it...
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Correct, you have what we call fake s-off and only gives you a bit of help flashing your phone, to get true s-off the preferred method is to go back to stock and then downgrade and root with gfree
Relatively easy but a few steps needed first
If you have a chance to go to g2root on freenode iirc there is a good likelihood that guhl is there and will walk you through it all
If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If not then feel free to ask again and i can lay out some instructions for you hete
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If You have time I would be grateful for advices how ro get from GB fake S-OFF to Recovery..
If not I will try tonight or tomorrow with this channel You wrote
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EDIT: It seems I have more time that I thought, so I'm checkin this g2root irc and waiting for someones answer
However if somebody could answer me one thing: With this fake S-OFF is it safe to downgrade using this method: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
Is it needed?
And what exactly S-OFF gives? Fastboot access like this Eng HBoot (at the beginning thought that it's HBoot from UK DZ/G2 )? Coz thats what I need : to flash CWM and than KK.
Downgraded, flashed Eng HBoot and CWM and KK is here. But I dont like it [emoji14] GB is coming...
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