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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.
Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.
Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
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Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.
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I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
^Do you really need to post that twice?
I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point
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You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.
I think the phone looks great, but since it has the different processor and the consensus seems to say it is bad, would it be better to get the htc amaze? I really like this one as its lighter and bigger screen. lack of camera button bothers me a bit but I guess I can live with that. but if its crappy dual core and not going to be much better than my single core epic 4g, that wouldn't be so great.
Processing horsepower is much higher than any single core phone. You can't even reliably run Firefox on a Hummingbird SoC, my Vibrant has issues with it on CM7 and when it's overclocked. Not so with any dual core Android phone.
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I think the phone looks great, but since it has the different processor and the consensus seems to say it is bad, would it be better to get the htc amaze? I really like this one as its lighter and bigger screen. lack of camera button bothers me a bit but I guess I can live with that. but if its crappy dual core and not going to be much better than my single core epic 4g, that wouldn't be so great.
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Fyi the Amaze and this both have the same exact processor and gpu. The processor on this phone isn't as great as the other Galaxy SII, but you'll never know the difference once this phone gets its software more optimized for the different processor we have. I advise you watch a few YouTube reviews, read user reviews on XDA and go in T-Mobile store to see which phone is the right choice for you.
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thanks for the info on the processor, so then this would likely be the one. what is the thought on this getting cyanogen or even ICS?
this is a big issue with the epic 4g since its so different from the other galaxy phones. I don't want to run into the issue again where i end up with the odd duck phone that doesn't get upgraded.
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thanks for the info on the processor, so then this would likely be the one. what is the thought on this getting cyanogen or even ICS?
this is a big issue with the epic 4g since its so different from the other galaxy phones. I don't want to run into the issue again where i end up with the odd duck phone that doesn't get upgraded.
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I think this phone would be a shoe in for Cyanogen mod especially since Cyanogen was hired by Samsung. As far as getting ICS officially I would think this phone should be one of the first Gingerbread running phone to receive the update. Would we get ICS unofficially? I definitely think so!!!
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I think this phone would be a shoe in for Cyanogen mod especially since Cyanogen was hired by Samsung. As far as getting ICS officially I would think this phone should be one of the first Gingerbread running phone to receive the update. Would we get ICS unofficially? I definitely think so!!!
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well my reference was to the fact that it uses a different processor then the main galaxy s 2. like with the epic 4g, it has the keyboard and wimax and is last for everything while the other galaxy phones are not still stuck on froyo.
robl45 said:
well my reference was to the fact that it uses a different processor then the main galaxy s 2. like with the epic 4g, it has the keyboard and wimax and is last for everything while the other galaxy phones are not still stuck on froyo.
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The chances of an official release of ICS on the T-Mobile Galaxy S II are very very good, the chances of a custom rom of ICS are about 99%
word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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+100 to that
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Fyi the Amaze and this both have the same exact processor and gpu. The processor on this phone isn't as great as the other Galaxy SII, but you'll never know the difference once this phone gets its software more optimized for the different processor we have. I advise you watch a few YouTube reviews, read user reviews on XDA and go in T-Mobile store to see which phone is the right choice for you.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
Hardware acceleration would be done by the GPU no?
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Hardware acceleration would be done by the GPU no?
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Yes it would be done as you seen in the game dead space only one worth mentioning. It wont lag when we have google new os on it because of hardware acceleration. It will be very little difference between our version and galaxy s2 variants.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
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Who ever is on xda most of the time relies on developers. Because it is to hard for them to learn it themselves. For optimization wait till google new os comes out so that way every phone with a dual core will basically be the same. Touchwiz may never be hardware accelerated till google releases source till ice cream. Its not a big deal you can run bunch of other variations of android. That will be hardware accelerated which are far superior to stock rom. By the time samsung gets touch wiz working fine on this phone.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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He just wants a perfect phone that is all. He need something to take out his anger and it is this phone. He may not be satisfied with his purchase. Can't take it back so he is stuck with it. I would be pissed to if i was stuck with a phone i didn't want as well. Just ignore him. Xda becoming more and more like Engadget everyday. Nitpicking at everything.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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As opposed to what? You? Hawking this phone in the Amaze forums?
Please, get over yourself. I'm sick of people like you trying to coax people into purchasing the phone based on POTENTIAL things that may or may not come.
I've seen this happen so many times when people in other sections of XDA get coaxed into getting a phone due to hopeful users who think that the phone will get all its problems fixed.
If you can't accept the technical facts, what are you doing on XDA? Preaching and selling hope and prayer for what the phone will be 3 months from now?
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Who ever is on xda most of the time relies on developers. Because it is to hard for them to learn it themselves. For optimization wait till google new os comes out so that way every phone with a dual core will basically be the same. Touchwiz may never be hardware accelerated till google releases source till ice cream. Its not a big deal you can run bunch of other variations of android. That will be hardware accelerated which are far superior to stock rom. By the time samsung gets touch wiz working fine on this phone.
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He just wants a perfect phone that is all. He need something to take out his anger and it is this phone. He may not be satisfied with his purchase. Can't take it back so he is stuck with it. I would be pissed to if i was stuck with a phone i didn't want as well. Just ignore him. Xda becoming more and more like Engadget everyday. Nitpicking at everything.
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I don't even own the phone. But please, be quick to pass judgment.
I've said numerous times that I am still planning to get this phone regardless of the drawbacks. However, I'm one to remain objective and not to hawk the phone like I have an oversupply of these phones in my warehouse.
I dont think hes out to just bash the phone, hes just pointing out its flaws (albeit in seemingly every thread lol).
This phone is amazing, easily the best phone ive ever had, but its still not perfect.
To the OP, this phone is head and shoulders better than the amaze. factor in the problems the amaze are having its an easy choice
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word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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Also you can't beat tmobiles data speed. Sprints 4g is maybe as fast as Tmobile 3g ....and that's a big maybe!
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PoisonWolf said:
As opposed to what? You? Hawking this phone in the Amaze forums?
Please, get over yourself. I'm sick of people like you trying to coax people into purchasing the phone based on POTENTIAL things that may or may not come.
I've seen this happen so many times when people in other sections of XDA get coaxed into getting a phone due to hopeful users who think that the phone will get all its problems fixed.
If you can't accept the technical facts, what are you doing on XDA? Preaching and selling hope and prayer for what the phone will be 3 months from now?
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I don't even own the phone. But please, be quick to pass judgment.
I've said numerous times that I am still planning to get this phone regardless of the drawbacks. However, I'm one to remain objective and not to hawk the phone like I have an oversupply of these phones in my warehouse.
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Why would you even consider purchasing this phone knowing how "slow" the processor is compared to the Exynos? You lost me with that one. Maybe you should wait for something better to come out.
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I dont think hes out to just bash the phone, hes just pointing out its flaws (albeit in seemingly every thread lol).
This phone is amazing, easily the best phone ive ever had, but its still not perfect.
To the OP, this phone is head and shoulders better than the amaze. factor in the problems the amaze are having its an easy choice
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You shouldn't say that. I think he's an Amaze owner.
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Why would you even consider purchasing this phone knowing how "slow" the processor is compared to the Exynos? You lost me with that one. Maybe you should wait for something better to come out.
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I still love the phone despite knowing these technical drawbacks. I just know the limitations.I've played with them.
I'm sure a good sum of you on this forum have been thinking about an upgrade for your Inc (I know I have). I always seem to find one flaw in the new phones that cause me to want to keep the phone I have now. I'm thinking about getting a Droid Inc 4G when they release it. What do you think is the best phone to choose? Is that a good choice? Is there something better I should be waiting for?
Thanks!
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Bud, I'm sure you're gonna hear 50 opnions of yes or no, it really depends on what's important to you in a phone and what you do with it. I'm not a Developer, or chip, IT knowitall, so I can't give clockspeeds and processor criteria to you, no doubt some others can but for me and what I have educated myself with, the new INC 4G will be just the ticket for me.
Getting this s4 I think Krait processor, which is a big upgrade over what most phones out currently have, though some out might be bigger or faster but not many. Removable battery, sd card, 4G, ICS, and a nice size 4".
If you looking for a bigger phone, some other options out there might be more worthwhile for you. I think the new screen is QHD which is not quite 720P if I understand it correctly but a deffinite improvement over my amoled INC
That's what I was thinking too. As long as the screen looks good to me, I'm okay with it. I wont be super picky about the exact resolution and I'm assuming lower resolutions mean less battery draw. Could someone shed some light on that? Thanks in advance! Also, will we be able to S-off the new Inc?
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Getting this s4 I think Krait processor, which is a big upgrade over what most phones out currently have...
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Lookingat the spec for this, will the CPU be underclocked from 1.7 to 1.2? Or have a rating of 1.2?
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I don't know enough about he technical specs of CPUs... GPUs... etc etc to answer any questions about that stuff.
But, I started a similar thread over in the Incredible General section about the Incredible 4g. I am thinking that the DInc4g seems like a great choice for me too.
The thing that concerns me most, is developer support. It's not going a "flagship" phone. It doesn't have a huge HD screen. Therefore, people are not going to be lining up in the streets for it. As far as I am concerned, that is just fine with me. But, I am always out on fringe...
I just wonder how much developers will be working with it. That is very important... at least to me.
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I don't know enough about he technical specs of CPUs... GPUs... etc etc to answer any questions about that stuff.
But, I started a similar thread over in the Incredible General section about the Incredible 4g. I am thinking that the DInc4g seems like a great choice for me too.
The thing that concerns me most, is developer support. It's not going a "flagship" phone. It doesn't have a huge HD screen. Therefore, people are not going to be lining up in the streets for it. As far as I am concerned, that is just fine with me. But, I am always out on fringe...
I just wonder how much developers will be working with it. That is very important... at least to me.
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I'm thinking about getting it also because I have a upgrade available. I'm going to wait at least a couple weeks after it's released and see what kind of dev support it gets before I make a decision.
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I'm thinking about getting it also because I have a upgrade available. I'm going to wait at least a couple weeks after it's released and see what kind of dev support it gets before I make a decision.
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Hopefully it'll have a great community like we do now.
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I'm gonna be suprised if it doesn't. A lot of those guys usually have at least 2 phones in their signature, so they might have the nexus or the rezound but I maybe they have gf's or wives that need a new phone and they use that as an excuse to get new hardware and start developing for it
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Lookingat the spec for this, will the CPU be underclocked from 1.7 to 1.2? Or have a rating of 1.2?
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I think you meant "underclocked from 1.5." The "standard" S4 has a clock speed of 1.5GHz. So, yes, it does seem that it is underclocked. We obviously wont know for sure until it is released though.
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I started a similar thread over in the Incredible General section about the Incredible 4g.
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We've also been talking about it in a few other threads (like this one) for a few weeks now, but I just left some thoughts in yours...
All in all, the Incredible 4G will be a great phone. In fact, as long as you're cool with a 4" screen, it will be the best phone on Verizon (for a little while at least).
I'm still holding out hope that they call it the Incredible 3, not "4G"
Look here :http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/04/23/...ars-on-verizon-promo-site-with-299-price-tag/
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Hi there Nexus owners, I currently own a Nexus S, and I plan on switching to a Galaxy Nexus but I was wondering since the Sa Nexus camera is lacking in the numbers when it comes to megapixels, does anyone know of the possibilities of swapping the camera of an SII (8mp) with that of our phone?
My Nexus S takes good enough pictures at 5mp but I just want to justify the lack of a need for the SIII over the Nexus.
I found the back camera for an SII for sale here.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...ltDomain_0&hash=item3a73f3b2f3#ht_3470wt_1378
nice double post. i'll reply here too:
No. Its not going to happen. Seriously people?
Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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Sorry about the double post, I had to when I noticed the post right after mine stating "All Questions to Go into the Q&A Section".
So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?
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Seriously. It's just one of those days. You know it had to happen with the influx of gnex flying out the door recently.
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ugh..... I know
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So why do you think its not going to happen? Any insights?
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Because you can't just take apart 2 phones and swap parts frankenstein style. Just because they're both phone cameras doesn't mean they're "plug and play". These things aren't desktop computers, their parts are not interchangeable.
If you think that the camera on the GNex is that bad (it actually isn't), and a phone camera is that important to you, don't buy the GNex.
Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap. Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are. I dont mind getting the GNEX to be frank, way to much pros over the cons, but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.
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Thanks for the input, I brought it up only because I know a fairly similar act was successfully pulled off with the Galaxy S and the Galaxy S 4G, with the front camera swap.
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The Galaxy S and Galaxy S4G are effectively the same phone, one just has a faster radio.
...but I can't wait to be able to swap out parts off a phone on the fly like a computer. Now thats going to be the best thing that happened to the phone industry after Android.
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This isn't ever going to happen.
martonikaj said:
This isn't ever going to happen.
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Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
fixedonfixies said:
Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Phones have been closed proprietary hardware systems since the modern smartphone. They're getting more closed and proprietary as time goes on. If you want better performance, battery life, and design you need them to be closed, sealed devices.
Even laptops are going this way. If you wanna swap parts get a dekstop computer.
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Maybe someone with better knowledge of the internals can give some insight on what differences exist if there are.
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The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.
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Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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How many universal parts/standards do you see on the inside of phones? Even if parts were more universal your phone would be uglier than Frankenstein and look like a mummy with all the duct tape keeping it together so you have something usable. A lot of things would have to become standard before swapping parts in and out even becomes thinkable. Think when a thought pops happens upon your head.
let it be.
When i read threads like this or those "can i install Gingerbread on gnex? " i really think these are TROLLS trying to get people mad...
Makes no sense, you want a better camera? Get a nikkon camera... I dont even see the point on better cameras on a phone.. If i can take a picture to put a Face on my contact or to take any fast photo for a quick reference.. Im ok.. Now if I want really good pictures for a wedding, 15 years daughter party or any special moment.. Id hire a professional photographer.. Thats all about it
Ppl tends to be really stupid about this, like iphone fan Boys.. When they figured 4S its a piece of crap they only got left to say oh but the camera its awesome... Yeah?? Better than a nikkon 24mp / 300 photos per second / 2milles zoom 250gb internal memory 1 touch in screen per 300 photos?... I say go to hell
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Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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fixedonfixies said:
Thanks for ur inputs guys. That been said if you are a member of XDA then I will think you won't be one to comfortably accept what the manufacturer gave u as is, keep it in your pocket and feel satisfied, we are here to tweak, tinker and learn from these devices, some of us at least.
If no one challenged what manufacturers have handed down then there won't be a need for MIUI, Voodoo, Ezekeel etc. I was only looking to see the possibilities I am not an electronic head to know exactly what can be or cannot be done. But I sure can don't mind satisfying my curiosities by raising questions i am unsure about, so call me a troll if u want. "That don't faze me foo".
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Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
Cheers
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The Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S II camera modules are totally different. If the SII camera worked out of the box with the Galaxus' ISP (which is quite possible,) the connectors are completely different. It would require so much work that it just wouldn't be worth it by any stretch.
That and it probably wouldn't even fit inside the phone.
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The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
msedek said:
Even if possible, if. You got enough money to buy 2 phones just to swap cameras, or lets put it this way, the camera its so portant to you that you dont mind spending over 1k USD just to swap the camera and with the risk of damaging the 2 phones in the process (as you said "you are not an electronic head") so risk its even higher of messing all the things up.. And wasting 1k USD?? Ok thats your money its your problem but dont Think any decent person around here will lead you to that and as i said if the camera its so important, dude theres plenty devices out there with 8/12 mp cameras and you can always flash some stock/custom ICS room to that device.
So you can get your camera with ICS in a reasonable way and any1 could help you accomplish that
Cheers
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OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Well not 1k USD but 700 then thats not the point
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PsiAdster said:
The first helpful post. Not just people *****ing about people asking questions on a Q&A forum.
This was an interesting question, yet the regulars still just see it as an opportunity to ***** and moan. Why hang around the Q&A forum if you're just gonna get pissed off with every single question that gets asked?
Thanks Sjael.
OP linked an Ebay listing of a SGS2 camera that he would have purchased if it was possible to swap the cameras..
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Exactly. If you don't like questions maybe you should stay out of QnA.
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Remember the name "Toba", You will think of me when it does happen.
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Don't forget the duct tape and jb-weld.
I still don't get why people are so worried with the GN's camera. I have both (GN & GS2) and can't tell from a glance "oh, this is the GN and this is the GS2" from looking at a picture.
- both are back illuminated sensors
- a 1920x1080 screen is 2 megapixels, most professional photographers say that 5 megapixels is more than enough, above is only useful if you *print* on large medias (eg. posters)
- both have the same sensor size
It is true that the GN had focus oddities and no image stabilization but this was fixed in 4.0.4. Don't forget that the GN has 2 CPUs (Cortex M3) dedicated solely to the camera subsystem. This is why there's instant shoot on that device.
Also consider that things change WAY too fast in this industry to develop standards. Intel can make a new CPU and ride on it for 2-3 years before they need to make a new one, even with AMD nipping at its heels. And when they make their CPU, they make it however they want, and the OEMs will build the form factor around it.
Smartphone companies do not have the same luxury. People want their sensor-laden connected supercomputers to fit comfortably in their hands, and they want it right now. If someone were to try to come up with a standard CPU, it would be obsolete before the ink dried on the standards page. Look how long it took them to agree on MicroUSB, and that's just a port.
Company: Here's your camera standard, the C5. Plug it into any board and you're good to go.
OEM: Only 8 megapixels? No backlight? Not good enough.
Company. OK, here's the C6.
Only 12 megapixels? NO CMOS sensor?
And on it goes.
I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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timenewton said:
I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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Indeed.
Besides, the Nexus 4 thread is actually spammed with people having problems with the phone, phone "breaks" randomly in their pocket, pics of broken Nexus 4s, etc
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I gotta laugh at everyone that said the n4 blowwwwws the t989 out of the water in every way. Lol
First....go to the n4 forum and read the problems people are having.
Second ...a friend of mine got one...I played with it a bit. Severely unimpressed. Sure its speedy....but barely quicker than my t989. The display looks like crap compared to mine. And it simply seems fragile! Very!
I will hold on to my Hercules til it breaks or my contract ends and I feel like replacing it. Maybe. My phone does everything I want it too very well. So until phones will do my dishes and tune up my car....I'll maybe stick with what I got. Lol
As far as the n4 goes.....I doubt I'd even trade my phone for it. Actually ....no....I wouldn't.
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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TOO FUNNY!!! LMAO......LET'S GET SOME MORE NOOBS IN HERE TO CRY SOME MORE.....PRICELESS!!!
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
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Galaxy S2 is a typical Samsung POS, the Nexus 4 is more akin in design to an iPhone. In other words, its insanely awesome
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lonz358 said:
Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!! Maybe a Lexus but not a Nexus!!!!
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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lonz358 said:
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!!
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:thumbup:
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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+1. Well put!!
kj2112 said:
Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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I'm patiently waiting for shipping orders to finish. Then I'm selling this t989 and jumping ship back onto the Nexus. As far as what the guy up top said about development on the Nexus, clearly he's new to XDA. No phone has more dev support than the Nexus line does. In fact, much of your favorite AOSP roms were built and first released on Nexus devices. Not only that but Nexus devices always get Google's newest OS' first. The t989 doesn't even have full Jelly Bean GPU driver support.. you guys don't even know what project butter truly is yet.
Second, the t989s dual core s3/adreno 220 SoC cannot in anyway whatsoever compete with the quad s4 pro/adreno 320 SoC. You can clock this phone as high as you want and score 9000 on antutu and its still not enough to beat the 13,000 the s4 pro SoC averages.. and that's on stock builds.
Third, if you say the 720p IPS display isn't better than the 480p over saturated SAMOLED display on the t989, clearly you're either blind or couldn't tell a good display if one took a dump on your eyeballs. While blacks will never be as deep, color reproduction is much better on the Nexus 4. And if Voodoo follows suit like on the other Nexus devices, well be able to tweak and calibrate the screen to our will.
Battery life? Nexus 4 wins hands down. Build quality? The t989 looks like crap compared to the Nexus 4.
Working for T-Mobile, I've already played with about 4 Nexus 4s. They're beautiful devices. Super fast and smooth.
Now stop hating and come back to reality. This phone wasn't even better than the other GSIIs, let alone any flagship device released this year. We can all use the "my phone does everything well" excuse but frankly, so can my old single core Nexus S.
With that being said, you kids can continue making up all sorts of crazyness up in trying to justify your purchase over a brand new handset that's better in every conceivable way. It makes for some great comedy.
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Well see, your opinion makes sense. I can dig that. Unfortunately that's not the OPs reasoning as he full out stated that the t989 is better. You can be happy with whatever device you want. You can't take that away from anyone. But facts are facts. And this device doesn't come anywhere close to a Nexus 4. That's all I'm saying.
Anyways this thread is troll bait. Someone close it lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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I won't. I haven't even dropped my t989 once in the 9 months I've had it. Don't jinx me though! And yea I told them to troll. This thread is troll bait. Thought it would make for a good show > haha
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Dropped it twice, waist high, No problems here seriously it's a phone with glass, just like the t989(don't think the t989 has gorilla glass 2 though) but if your not careful its going to break like every other phone.
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As a former T989 owner and a current nexus 4 owner, this thread makes me laugh (and I was running AOKP jellybean on mine). Don't get me wrong, I loved my hercules and it is still a great phone, but let's be realistic here. The nexus 4 is hands down a better device in almost every way possible.
Screen
The display is far from "carp". Yes, if you are used to AMOLED displays (like the one on the T989), you will initially find the colors to be "washed out". But in reality, this is because AMOLED screens have grossly over-saturated and unrealistic colors. The blacks are not as deep as AMOLED but they are damn close (again this is due to the nature of IPS displays). Nexus 4 screen is much much sharper, the whites are actually white (and not blue like the one on the T989) and colors are more natural. There is a reason why most reviewers rate is as one of the best displays on any phone. IMO, there is no competition here.
Performance
Again, there is a big difference here (even with JB on the T989). Nexus 4 is smoother and snappier in general use. But heavy usage like gaming is where the biggest difference lies. As for benchmarks, the lower than expected scores are due to benchmark programs not being optimised for 4.2 (go see the difference between the new and old version of Antutu). And honestly, in reality, benchmarks don't mean s***. All I need to know is that this phone handles everything I throw at it without any hiccups and certainly much better than the T989. If you think that a two gen old dual core with 1 Gb ram preforms as a well as the current top end quad core with twice the ram, you are delusional.
Storage and battery
Storage is the only area where T989 has an advantage with its micro sd slot. If you are the type of person that needs to store all of your life on your phone then nexus 4 is not for you. Personally, I barely store anything on my phone (I had used up only about 4 gb of the internal space on my t989) as everything is on the cloud, so even the 8GB nexus 4 is more than enough. Again this is a personal thing so it's a disadvantage for some people but not others.
Battery life for me has been much better on the nexus 4 than on the t989. Obviously, everyone's usage is different so this will vary from person to person, but I'm extremely happy with mine.
Build quality
Here again, there is no competition. The nexus 4 has a much more solid build and has a very premium feel to it. My T989's plastic back started to creak like crazy just after a few days of owning it and it drove me crazy. I thought I was using a low-end entry level device rather than a premium product.
Yes the nexus has a glass back and yes glass cracks when you drop it...who knew huh? So if you are the type to drop your phone frequently, don't buy it or just get a case for it, end of story.
As for the problems being reported, very few newly released devices are without issues and this is a fact. T989 had it's fair share of problems, some of which have still not been fixed till this day (sticky power button anyone?). If you are someone who can't handle even a minor problem with your device, than a newly released phone is not for you (whether it be a nexus 4 or something else). And let's not forget that problems reported on online forums can be blown out of proportion. After all, only those who have issues are going to complain, while those without issues will probably remain silent. Personally, my nexus 4 is flawless, except for the slight static/buzzing problem from the earpiece reported by many people. However, this noise is very faint and inaudible during calls, so this is a non-issue for me. I'm confident that google will fix the issue and when they do, I will ask them to send me a replacement. After all, that's what the warranty is there for. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying owning this phone over my t989.
Oh and let's not forget about the pure android experience and the fact that you will get updates as soon as google releases them. Even if you are into modding, the nexus is the best phone for that as well as its modding community has always been the strongest out of any android phone. You guys really need to step back and look at things objectively here. As someone who has owned and lived with both phones, I can tell you that there is no competition between the two.