Hey guys,
I'm looking at upgrading from the desire to a level up. Possibly the Incredible S or maybe the samsung optimus black.
Just wondering if you think the Incredible is a good way to go because I rooted my Desire with the greatest of ease, however, the other two I've been looking at seem to be more of a challenge. Don't get me wrong, I like a challenge But I want to be able to just flat out root *snicker* and then just flash different ROMs to see which I like the best.
Also, it's quite surprising that I had such an easy time rooting the desire. Basically because what I've read in the forums about needing radio, HBOOT's etc. Just to give you an idea, I only just rooted few weeks ago and these are the stats on a year old phone:-
Telstra branded (Only evidence of that left is a logo before bootanimation, which I would absolutley love to get rid of if anyone can help)
BRAVO PVT1 S-ON
HBOOT 0.93
RADIO 5.17.05.23 (flashed this straight after I rooted)
running Cyanogenmod 7.0.3(recently flashed nightly build#88)
Basically, I used Unrevoked to root (also had to get a driver to use that bleh!)
With ROMs that people are discussing that they need PVT3 or 4 I have been able to use on this one(flashed multiple ROMs and found I like Cyanogen the best)
Even if you have suggestions other than the ones I'm looking at let me know. Main interest in these two is because of the cameras.
Oh... and if you wanna flame, be my guest cause I've probabkly made it obvious that I'm a noob at this point lol
Any opinions are appreciated to say the least
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Hey guys,
Trying to figure out whats going to be best for me. Im currently on 2.1, which is virgin branded (i presume, as thats what the boot logo is after the htc logo). Now, Im tempted to root it and upgrade to 2.2 froyo (as there are now rooted roms).
My Hboot is 0.75.0000 and radio is 4.05.00.11 but strangely at the top it says
" BRAVO UNKNOWN SHIP S-ON " which is where i would assume it says o2, Orange etc. Will i need to goldkey an sd card still, or is this rom a WWE stock htc rom?
Also, could anyone hold my hand through the whole root-install new ROM process? I've read through the posts on here, and although I am not exactly computer illiterate, it does seem a little daunting, and as this Desire cost me £500 sim free(from CEX) when it came out, I'm a little scared of bricking it, although it is insured .....
Last question is, with the 2.2 Rooted Froyo releases that are currently out, which is best? I want all the latest official features (wifi n, wifi tether, 720p etc) but a quick running phone with nice subtle extras.
Cheers guys, sorry for being a bit of a noob here, but I've ended up reading myself into confusion
Raty
Welcome.
The Short answer is ; if you don't feel comfortable then don't do the rooting process. It has been simplified significantly most recently but things still can go wrong. If you can wait the best option for you is to wait until your carrier releases an update. Still not foolproof but less likely to get you in hot water.
The Long answer is that there are plenty of guides around both here and at Modaco. If you do get in trouble I guess you can ask on the forum.
Good Luck
After a year of playing with the Hero i am now on the desire from Cellular South. i have rooted using unrEVOked and got Soff using unrEvked forever tool. im not a big fan of the CM6 and AOSP roms from the hero so i figure i wouldn't be very interested here as well so i have decided to just run my stock 2.1 rom. plus (unless i have read them wrong) most come with radio and im not really comfortable playing around with that setting.
Here are my questions.
1) i would like to use a custom kernal but it seems everything i have ran across is for GSM or have i overlooked it somehow? i cant get wireless tethering to work without it.
2) i have found a2sd already but before i go to it i want to get rid of some of this "junk" Csouth has installed. what programs can i safely remove with adb without causing problems.
3) if there are any roms that are "tweaked" 2.1 stock for the cdma could somebody be so kind as to point me to it as i cant seem to find one.
Thanks for any help y'all can offer.
Hi
I just got my Desire HD today, and got all itchy to start customizing it away, but I have a couple of questions first. Coming from HD2 here, which I mostly used with Android.
Unfortunately my DHD came with the new OTA, but I can see from the other forum that downgrading is not a problem anymore.
I'm concerned with two issues, mainly. First, I don't want to lose the advantages of the 1.72 update - I can see a lot of complaints about battery for example, while my battery seems to be just perfect. My question is, if I downgrade to 1.32, then root it, will I be able to get (through a custom ROM?) the advantages of 1.72? If so, which ROM are you using?
Also, I read somewhere (Go ahead and tell me if I've been misinformed) that people still don't have all the correct drivers for the GPU part (graphics) of the DHD processor. Is that true, and will I lose performance on that part with a custom ROM right now?
Thanks in advance for your reply, and I'm glad to be now part of this community
best,
shpatar.
When you downgrade there are a fe options for u upgrading to 1.72 again while retaining root. The key thing here is to either use a custom rom or flash only the system partition of the stock rom. Leedroid seems to be the most often recommended custom rom and he is indeed a very good developer.
The main battery savings are to be had from the new radio which again can be flashed without losing root.
I would start by reading the guides on downgrading and getting radio s-off and hboot s-off.
People will be happy to help if you get stuck but no one wants to repeat information which is already laid out in the guides.
With regards to the gpu there is no issue. What you have been reading about is that leedroid wants to play with the kernel to see if he can improve gpu performance even more. There is nothing wrong with performance now though.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
Thanks mate, I'm going to downgrade right now and see what happens. Cheers
As mentioned by dr.m0x: the LeeDrOid rom is one you will see mentioned often when asked for a custom rom including the 1.72 update.
Also (as mentioned partially as well)....one of the key things (going forward) you want to know about is radio s-off, which will let you flash...well...just about anything...
Although now you may not see the use of it....before the 1.72 downgrade option, if you had radio s-off you would feel comfortable
Welcome to this community....it is a great place indeed and you'll see that the devs are quick in replying and other users are quick in responding as well....
ok so ive been with android a while now but am new to the g2
just looking around the threads i havent found a good answer yet.
so what is the best radio/hboot for a tmobile branded g2
where i live i have always gotten great reception with tmobile across any devices
but i had my g2 for a day before i rooted it and i noticed a 4g symbol??
did a little research i guess that isnt 4g but im still looking for an answer.
tried a few roms, on miui.us now, something else tomorrow...
hboot-0.76.200
microp-0425
radio-26.02.01.15_m2
emmc-boot
aug20, 201, 16:51:01
im guessing there is better?
thanks in advance
You can check out this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
And look for one you'd like to use. All radio's for the HTC Vision (g2/Desire Z) are on that page.
I have the same hboot and I'm using the .19 radio. Seems the best for me, been through a few and every once in awhile I get flashy and try others just to come back to that radio. It has the best reception and battery life combo for me.
DFW, TX
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
There is no overall "best" radio because there are too many factors involved in terms of radio performance (e.g. geography, how you use your phone, etc). So it's trial and error. Try one of the latest radios from that thread for a week or so, see how you get on, then you can flash a different one and compare.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
thanks everyone for the tips, i downloaded all the radios from the thread i was linked to with plans on trying out all or most of them over the months to find my preference. couple quick questions
it was recommended to match the lib-ril files to the radio i am using (doing it in a couple days to test the difference) but i only found the files needed for the latest radio (26.13.04.19) for the other radios where can i find these files?
also is there any benefit (or even an option) to use a different spl/hboot? or so long as i have an engineering hboot they all are the same as in no added benefits?
There's a thread about a useful tool to match the RILs for you, I will edit in a link if I can find it.
Edit - I see you found it already lol. But if you want the RILs to match with other radios, you will have to extract them from whatever stock ROM came with those radios. I don't know if someone has done this already, to make it easier ?
As for hboot then no, the main difference is eng hboot vs stock, the eng version giving you a few more options.
The only other issue is sometimes people flash the DZ hboot onto a G2, because the two phones have different stock partitioning (via hboot). This is typically an issue when flashing a Sense-based ROM onto a G2, since that has a slightly smaller system partition (so the ROM won't fit).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
yeah kinda what i thought. are there any options on custom mtd partitions? not that im too crazy over sense but this way if it ever became an issue i do a few small edits before flashing a sense rom. either way thanks for the tips
oh an yeah someone gave me a link to the auto patcher for the lib files, i didnt even think to look there for i was planing on manually moving them anyway, but yes they are all placed in there but thanks for digging for me anyhow!
It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd
If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!
I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?
Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...
Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.